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Title: playoff chances
Post by: hozzer on March 12, 2016, 04:09:44 PM
are they slipping away, discuss
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: The Third Twin on March 12, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
are they slipping away, discuss

Going, going.......almost gone
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: doc on March 12, 2016, 04:53:38 PM
Not yet. Go Gainsborough!
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: green hats mate on March 12, 2016, 05:02:56 PM
Stays the same , a fight between us and Nuneaton for 5th place with Tamworth with a chance  to pip both of us .
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Bostonshire on March 12, 2016, 05:05:25 PM
No worse than they was at 3pm, Our form is dire thou
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: father Ted on March 12, 2016, 05:19:27 PM
 No major progress till defence strengthened . . simples  ..
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Shauneyg on March 12, 2016, 05:20:19 PM
Form is very worrying and with some tough games ahead not looking good is it, still have ferriby,Harrogate,Tamworth and Nuneaton to play can't see us making play offs.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: green hats mate on March 12, 2016, 05:21:44 PM
No major progress till defence strengthened . . simples  ..

Who would you drop out of the defence ?
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: green hats mate on March 12, 2016, 05:23:55 PM
Form is very worrying and with some tough games ahead not looking good is it, still have ferriby,Harrogate,Tamworth and Nuneaton to play can't see us making play offs.

Nuneaton fans saying he same about their team Shaun ,  so that must mean Tamworth for final spot.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Ed Kandi on March 12, 2016, 05:49:43 PM
One win from the last six games, and in three of these games we've failed to score.  Some very difficult games ahead, Dale is hoping to be back for the Ferriby game.  That probably means he might be back for the Bradford PA game if we're lucky.
My opinion, for what its worth, is that without Dale there's not enough goals in the team to make the playoffs...time for a Robbins recall?  ???
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: father Ted on March 12, 2016, 06:06:41 PM
Goals against not good GHM ..
  Goals for good .
  May not be a case of dropping but adding  :P . eg 4231.
   OR maybe imho get 1 or 2 who are Slightly less skilled but totally switched on & faster , and that word you don't like ..Stronger .
         Is the new ground marked out ?
    fT.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Captain Clean on March 12, 2016, 06:19:40 PM
Oh you can't criticise this team and management. We'll easily make the playoffs  :bunny
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Artemis on March 12, 2016, 07:10:06 PM
Do the players lose their concentration  because 4 times out of the past 5 matches we have conceded  a goal on the stroke of half time.  That simply isn't good enough. 
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Winging It on March 12, 2016, 07:22:50 PM
Form might be poor recently, but where are we still in the league ?  All this doom and gloom huff and puff should be spent vocally next weekend by getting behind the team from 2-55 till the final whistle, and not as we see a lot or recently, moaning at players after a few mins on the clock. Its far to early to say that this is it,  and that we'll stick up the white flag as we cannot make it !

What i will say is that we do look weak once we have a couple of key players out, and that is the difference. Its not that our best starting 11 are poor, its that when one or two are missing we then become weaker so its about a stronger bench i guess. But there it is...down to funds. So unless one or two fans can throw some money at it, we just have to accept that when we lose key players then it becomes harder.  If any of you have the money for another Dayle, please step forward !
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: oxo on March 12, 2016, 08:14:14 PM
There is still an outside chance of the play offs. Last week I wrote how disgusted I was with that inept performance. Today after another long trek I don't feel as peed off why? because the lads who played gave their all ( and that is all I ask) and to be honest deserved something from that game. Today boiled down to getting few decisions going our way and the fact that a couple of players despite putting in a good shift just are not up to the required standard. Without Dale we will always struggle for goals there was plenty of huff and puff up front but but the lad will never blow the house down. Missed Pidge and finding it difficult to find a replacement the lad in defense looks out of his league. Having said that as I said they and the others gave it everything. I honestly feel that had the one that hit the post gone in we could have gone on to win. UTP.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: howmanynames2pick on March 12, 2016, 10:43:12 PM
Form might be poor recently, but where are we still in the league ?  All this doom and gloom huff and puff should be spent vocally next weekend by getting behind the team from 2-55 till the final whistle, and not as we see a lot or recently, moaning at players after a few mins on the clock. Its far to early to say that this is it,  and that we'll stick up the white flag as we cannot make it !

What i will say is that we do look weak once we have a couple of key players out, and that is the difference. Its not that our best starting 11 are poor, its that when one or two are missing we then become weaker so its about a stronger bench i guess. But there it is...down to funds. So unless one or two fans can throw some money at it, we just have to accept that when we lose key players then it becomes harder.  If any of you have the money for another Dayle, please step forward !
agree
Plus Jordan Richards was a big loss..............
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: joshb on March 12, 2016, 11:36:33 PM
I'm with Oxo.... we played well just couldn't get on the end of some decent moves (ewsh always seemed to be in the right place, our strikers aren't doing that now) but as soon as we conceded the writing was on the wall.
2nd half was harder to watch as we predictably resorted to the more direct approach and chances were limited, but we had on squirm just wide and hit the post before they killed it off.
Disappointing but luckily Nuneaton dropped points so we're still in the picture, but need to start getting results.
Don't think Pidge will be available for Ferriby either. Huge miss if true
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Tash on March 13, 2016, 08:09:46 AM
Next week is the defining game of the season, loose it and bye bye playoffs,win it and it's game on.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Winging It on March 13, 2016, 10:54:28 AM
Next week is the defining game of the season, loose it and bye bye playoffs,win it and it's game on.

How can you predict that, without knowing the other scores from next weekend too ? If one or two above us drop points, then regardless of our result we would still be in the mix for another week.  I agree its a massive game, and we need to win it, but its not defining until other results are seen.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: The Third Twin on March 13, 2016, 10:58:48 AM
Next week is the defining game of the season, loose it and bye bye playoffs,win it and it's game on.

How can you predict that, without knowing the other scores from next weekend too ? If one or two above us drop points, then regardless of our result we would still be in the mix for another week.  I agree its a massive game, and we need to win it, but its not defining until other results are seen.

I disagree, should we lose, we will have taken 4 points from 21, and not only nuneaton to watch over our shoulders now. Tamworth sneaking into the frame. Only 5th is realistically achievable, but with 2 others in the frame, current form says it won't be us. Defeat next week will cement this.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Cavalier on March 13, 2016, 11:59:36 AM
There is still an outside chance of the play offs. Last week I wrote how disgusted I was with that inept performance. Today after another long trek I don't feel as peed off why? because the lads who played gave their all ( and that is all I ask) and to be honest deserved something from that game. Today boiled down to getting few decisions going our way and the fact that a couple of players despite putting in a good shift just are not up to the required standard. Without Dale we will always struggle for goals there was plenty of huff and puff up front but but the lad will never blow the house down. Missed Pidge and finding it difficult to find a replacement the lad in defense looks out of his league. Having said that as I said they and the others gave it everything. I honestly feel that had the one that hit the post gone in we could have gone on to win. UTP.

After last week's stuffing by Fylde when we were able to put out a strong team and bench, I didn't have much hope for this week's weaker team.  However, it seems we put up a decent showing and another day could have come back with a point or more.  Just to clarify oxo, who is the lad in defence who looks out of his league?
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: oxo on March 13, 2016, 01:43:05 PM
There is still an outside chance of the play offs. Last week I wrote how disgusted I was with that inept performance. Today after another long trek I don't feel as peed off why? because the lads who played gave their all ( and that is all I ask) and to be honest deserved something from that game. Today boiled down to getting few decisions going our way and the fact that a couple of players despite putting in a good shift just are not up to the required standard. Without Dale we will always struggle for goals there was plenty of huff and puff up front but but the lad will never blow the house down. Missed Pidge and finding it difficult to find a replacement the lad in defense looks out of his league. Having said that as I said they and the others gave it everything. I honestly feel that had the one that hit the post gone in we could have gone on to win. UTP.

After last week's stuffing by Fylde when we were able to put out a strong team and bench, I didn't have much hope for this week's weaker team.  However, it seems we put up a decent showing and another day could have come back with a point or more.  Just to clarify oxo, who is the lad in defence who looks out of his league?


As I said all the lads gave it their best and I was just expressing an opinion about a couple but I feel it would be unfair to name names and start a debate on here as the lads probably read whats on here and we don't need anyone losing their focus, Hope they prove me wrong.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Winging It on March 13, 2016, 07:43:40 PM
Next week is the defining game of the season, loose it and bye bye playoffs,win it and it's game on.

How can you predict that, without knowing the other scores from next weekend too ? If one or two above us drop points, then regardless of our result we would still be in the mix for another week.  I agree its a massive game, and we need to win it, but its not defining until other results are seen.

I disagree, should we lose, we will have taken 4 points from 21, and not only nuneaton to watch over our shoulders now. Tamworth sneaking into the frame. Only 5th is realistically achievable, but with 2 others in the frame, current form says it won't be us. Defeat next week will cement this.

How can you say it will cement this ???  Even if we did lose, who's to say those around us won't ? If they all won, and we didn't, it still wouldn't "cement " it,  crazy comment to be fair.  That 5th place will go down to the wire, and i believe we shall be in the fight for it still. We need a win soon, that is a cert, but as for next weekend and do or die,  its a bit over dramatic to state its cemented our chances of not gaining that play off spot.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: The Third Twin on March 15, 2016, 06:55:15 AM
Next week is the defining game of the season, loose it and bye bye playoffs,win it and it's game on.

How can you predict that, without knowing the other scores from next weekend too ? If one or two above us drop points, then regardless of our result we would still be in the mix for another week.  I agree its a massive game, and we need to win it, but its not defining until other results are seen.

Crazy,eh? We'll see. I love your mindless optimism. You can say I told you so at the end of the regular season, but I don't think you will have the opportunity, not this year.

I disagree, should we lose, we will have taken 4 points from 21, and not only nuneaton to watch over our shoulders now. Tamworth sneaking into the frame. Only 5th is realistically achievable, but with 2 others in the frame, current form says it won't be us. Defeat next week will cement this.

How can you say it will cement this ???  Even if we did lose, who's to say those around us won't ? If they all won, and we didn't, it still wouldn't "cement " it,  crazy comment to be fair.  That 5th place will go down to the wire, and i believe we shall be in the fight for it still. We need a win soon, that is a cert, but as for next weekend and do or die,  its a bit over dramatic to state its cemented our chances of not gaining that play off spot.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Burgh Boy on March 15, 2016, 07:19:00 AM
Just frustrated that a Club/Business that should have walked automatic promotion is now 50-50 to qualify for the final play off spot. We have (or had in the case of Ryan Robbins) the players and the manager to compete the job and together with the best backroom staff in the league and the excitement of a new ground the season after next, it is really hard to take another potential glorious failure season on the chin. We all need to get down to York Street on Saturday and get behind whatever BUFC team takes to the field to grab 3 vital points to keep us with a fighting chance of a play off spot.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: howmanynames2pick on March 15, 2016, 09:20:28 AM
Just frustrated that a Club/Business that should have walked automatic promotion is now 50-50 to qualify for the final play off spot. We have (or had in the case of Ryan Robbins) the players and the manager to compete the job and together with the best backroom staff in the league and the excitement of a new ground the season after next, it is really hard to take another potential glorious failure season on the chin. We all need to get down to York Street on Saturday and get behind whatever BUFC team takes to the field to grab 3 vital points to keep us with a fighting chance of a play off spot.
Agree totally...except for the dilemma that is Ryan Robbins.
Football is a game played with the feet head and heart.
Ryans feet were great...poss difficulties in other two areas ;)
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Ed Kandi on March 15, 2016, 10:40:47 AM
Just frustrated that a Club/Business that should have walked automatic promotion is now 50-50 to qualify for the final play off spot. We have (or had in the case of Ryan Robbins) the players and the manager to compete the job and together with the best backroom staff in the league and the excitement of a new ground the season after next, it is really hard to take another potential glorious failure season on the chin. We all need to get down to York Street on Saturday and get behind whatever BUFC team takes to the field to grab 3 vital points to keep us with a fighting chance of a play off spot.
Robbins is still a BUFC player allegedly, so if I was in David Newton's place I'd be telling Dennis to get him back pdq, and scholsey too.
It's a results business apparently, so why not strengthen the squad for the run in?
Dixons energy in midfield and Robbins' goals could be the difference if we do make the playoffs
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: hozzer on March 15, 2016, 11:30:50 AM
I think we have a tough run in and only see us getting 13 points.

Home         North ferriby   draw   1
Home         Brackley Town   win   3
Away         Tamworth                 draw   1
Away         FC United    win   3
Home         BPA                  win   3
Away         Harrogate Town   lose   0
Home         Nuneaton                  draw   1
Away         Stalybridge Celtic   draw   1

that would give us 68 points and that won't be enough. Dont think Saturday is a must win but games against Tamworth and Nuneation possibly are as they are our main rivals for the fifth slot. However beating NFU would be a huge result and would keep them in our sites.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Cavalier on March 15, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
It's time for the players and us the supporters to step up.  I will be there Sat and hope you will be too.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: green hats mate on March 15, 2016, 11:52:09 AM
Ryans form at Corby suggests he is not good enough for this league .

Oh for another Jordan Richards !!!
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Winging It on March 15, 2016, 01:54:46 PM
Just frustrated that a Club/Business that should have walked automatic promotion is now 50-50 to qualify for the final play off spot. We have (or had in the case of Ryan Robbins) the players and the manager to compete the job and together with the best backroom staff in the league and the excitement of a new ground the season after next, it is really hard to take another potential glorious failure season on the chin. We all need to get down to York Street on Saturday and get behind whatever BUFC team takes to the field to grab 3 vital points to keep us with a fighting chance of a play off spot.
Robbins is still a BUFC player allegedly, so if I was in David Newton's place I'd be telling Dennis to get him back pdq, and scholsey too.
It's a results business apparently, so why not strengthen the squad for the run in?
Dixons energy in midfield and Robbins' goals could be the difference if we do make the playoffs

We need to move on, why do a few think they know better than the manager ? How can you say,hand on heart, what goes on behind the scenes with these players ? You assume that they have been moved out, purely for football matters. Maybe they have, but lets not kid ourselves that everything is black and white.  Personally, i would like to see Ricky Miller back, but that isn't going to happen either. Maybe we should break the bank to get Pearson back too,  who has the spare thousands to stump up ?? 
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 15, 2016, 03:55:11 PM
Just frustrated that a Club/Business that should have walked automatic promotion
I stopped reading at that point. 1, businesses don't win promotion, teams do. 2, why should we have walked it? On what evidence in August was this so obvious?
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Ed Kandi on March 15, 2016, 09:11:43 PM

We need to move on, why do a few think they know better than the manager ?

Its all about opinions on here, I think that's why


How can you say,hand on heart, what goes on behind the scenes with these players ? You assume that they have been moved out, purely for football matters. Maybe they have, but lets not kid ourselves that everything is black and white. 

If it was based purely on football matters Robbins would not have been moved out IMO, so I'd assumed that it was something else. A personality clash maybe, who knows, as you say it is never black and white.

Burgh Boy appeared to be looking at it from a business perspective and in business you don't loan out valuable assets.  If you are forced into doing so, you would recall them if the need arose and if it were a possibility.

DG has now loaned Sands out. Sands scored 2 goals from 10 starts, with a few appearances from the bench.
Robbins scored 4 goals from 10 starts, also coming on as a sub in a few games.

Jones' figures are 6 from 22 starts, so unless Dale's injury has healed already it would seem likely that Den has another striker lined up. Its too late in the season to take a chance on another Sands so, unless Den has come up with someone proven at this level, it would make sense to recall a striker who showed he could find the net.
Just an opinion of course...




 


Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: green hats mate on March 15, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
Robins unable to get into bottom of league team .

Kyle only on the bench for Basford who are two leagues below us .

I think that vindicates Greene,s decision .
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Ed Kandi on March 15, 2016, 10:42:24 PM
Alternatively, it might show that they would rather be playing for BUFC and vindicates sweet fa, they both proved they could play at our level IMO :dan
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: green hats mate on March 16, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
Alternatively, it might show that they would rather be playing for BUFC and vindicates sweet fa, they both proved they could play at our level IMO :dan

Probably do prefer playing for Boston , if so surely they would be trying to shine while out on loan .    Probably explains why Greene let them go .
Just my opinion .
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Ed Kandi on March 16, 2016, 10:36:17 AM
Possibly just going through the motions until the end of the season knowing that they will be released and can then trial for another club....another opinion based on nothing at all
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 16, 2016, 12:40:34 PM
Alternatively, it might show that they would rather be playing for BUFC

Doesn't make sense. If the Corby manager sends Robbins back, telling DG he's been poor then where does that leave Robbins? Being pushed out elsewhere desperately by us, to get his wages off our payroll.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Ed Kandi on March 16, 2016, 03:08:15 PM
If he's back at Boston, and we're paying his wages and short of a proven striker, it would make sense to play him.
From a business perspective, DN would probably want to utilise all his assets to extend the season with some playoff games and the chance of a financial boost with promotion.
Title: Re: playoff chances
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 16, 2016, 04:28:36 PM
Robbins will be eligible for the Play Offs, as will Dixon.