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Title: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Cavalier on October 19, 2015, 10:41:00 PM
Telford's scorers in last weekend's win v Stalybridge were S.Clancy and D.Hibbert.  As neither of these were in the squad when they came here 7 days earlier it could be they are strengthening their team.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: truffleshuffle on October 20, 2015, 01:35:08 PM
Hibbert was played no.9
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: joshb on October 20, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
Clancy is about the only survivor from their title winning team 2 years ago. Surprised nobody in the Conference took him on to be fair

Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on October 20, 2015, 10:23:18 PM
Will be a very tough game. Think we will do well to get a point there.

TEP
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: joshb on October 21, 2015, 07:06:17 AM
Away form had been good. They're bottom of the league let's not forget, even if they didn't play that bad at YS. I'd be disappointed with a point.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: hozzer on October 21, 2015, 07:46:25 AM
think I would settle for 4 points from the next 2 games so a point at Telford and beat FC united at home. Last time we won 3 in a row we then went on to lose 5 out of the next 7 games.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on October 21, 2015, 12:01:22 PM
Take no notice of them being bottom - totally false position now. DG has stated he will be pleased with 4 points from next 2 games so he knows it will be challenging.

TEP
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: joshb on October 21, 2015, 01:35:20 PM
We're behind where we need to be and need 6pts from these games before harrogate and ferriby which could be more difficult. It would also give us a bit of a buffer for slipups if we got 6/6
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: afcteresa on October 22, 2015, 08:26:45 PM
ow meny do yu thnk u wil bring on satday? :bunny
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 22, 2015, 09:06:01 PM
ow meny do yu thnk u wil bring on satday? :bunny
I assume you're asking how many we'll bring... upto 100 maybe?

Is it segregated?
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on October 23, 2015, 06:59:39 AM
ow meny do yu thnk u wil bring on satday? :bunny
I assume you're asking how many we'll bring... upto 100 maybe?

Is it segregated?

No piont taknig the psis out of ohter poepels tpynig, it was ovbouis waht she maent.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 23, 2015, 03:53:16 PM
http://www.telfordunited.com/News.aspx?ID=697

NO segregation, usual away terrace closed.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: joshb on October 23, 2015, 07:48:03 PM
http://www.telfordunited.com/News.aspx?ID=697

NO segregation, usual away terrace closed.

That's a shame, guess we'll have to go at the other end. Do they let you roam around the ground's open stands?
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Steviemas on October 23, 2015, 08:20:02 PM
 Looks like we'll have to go steaming the home end then ;). Do they let away fans into their social club or do they do the big time charlie thing aka Tamworth and segregate?
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 24, 2015, 09:25:16 AM
Looks like we'll have to go steaming the home end then ;). Do they let away fans into their social club or do they do the big time charlie thing aka Tamworth and segregate?
I've been in their bar before, even when the stands were segregated
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Cavalier on October 24, 2015, 03:09:26 PM
1 - 0 to Telford on 7 mins (Robert Paratore)
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: afcteresa on October 24, 2015, 03:51:13 PM
2-0 now is th rob an lary ifect :bunny
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Post by: doc on October 24, 2015, 04:27:11 PM
2-2 and Telford down to 10. Funny old game!
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Post by: Deeping Pilgrim on October 24, 2015, 04:54:41 PM
2-0 now is th rob an lary ifect :bunny

Brillant fitebak too get a draw is th dennis greeen ifect  ;)
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Post by: Ed Kandi on October 24, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
A good point gained, well done everybody  :dan
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Post by: Captain Clean on October 24, 2015, 04:59:30 PM
A brilliant comeback boys. Well done all. So proud to be BUFC.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Cavalier on October 24, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
Unbeaten in last 4 games.   Home next against FC Utd of Manchester. 
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: father Ted on October 24, 2015, 05:09:27 PM
  Good fightback .
    Defence needs a tweak . . 4th worst .
        7th  -Cup teams played 2 less games ..
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 24, 2015, 07:44:30 PM
2-0 now is th rob an lary ifect :bunny

Brillant fitebak too get a draw is th dennis greeen ifect  ;)
Doant git drawn in mayut :)
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Ed Kandi on October 24, 2015, 07:49:14 PM
A 4 game unbeaten run is going down very well with the clinicians in the Eagle tonight  :dan

Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: joshb on October 24, 2015, 08:05:51 PM
A shame it took us 45 minutes to sort ourselves out.
Disappointed not to have made more out of the last half hour
Everyone above us won, not a mega day
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 24, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
A shame it took us 45 minutes to sort ourselves out.
Disappointed not to have made more out of the last half hour
Everyone above us won, not a mega day
I wasn't there so I bow to your  comment. However I believe it will be viewed as a good point
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: oxo on October 24, 2015, 09:33:14 PM
How do you sum up a game like that? Well, on the horrible journey there I had settled on being satisfied with a point. The first half was such a pathetic disaster I like all others there were wandering how we would get away without conceding half a dozen. Second half could not have been more of a contrast and I am disappointed we didn't claim all three points. So why didn't we win it? Well apart from the usual crap referee adding six minutes but insisting Pidge left the pitch for four of those to have his head wound bandages replaced I am afraid we are still lacking in certain areas. Goodness knows what system we were playing in that first half but poor old Liam had two to contend with all the half. Sorry but Robbins performance bordered on the pathetic I have seen more go in a butchers dog, constantly beaten to the ball or had it taken from him by a defender half his size, poor passing and has a lot of fitness work to do to get anywhere near the standard for this league. The young man I think his name is Johnson was signed as a member of the under twenty development squad and I believe is a good prospect but is not ready for this level just yet. So, thanks to the outstanding heroics of Pidge and others we came away with a point and as stated before the game I would have taken that  but at the end of the day it should have been all three.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 24, 2015, 10:08:37 PM
Johnson started after impressing off the bench last week - it's how the team should be picked. Walker did the same today, so hopefully he'll play against FCUM.

Mixed emotions - at half time, would've snatched a draw from anyone offering it. But scoring the equaliser with a quarter of the game left, having lots of possession, we have to say we should have won.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: dt woodhall on October 25, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
As usual it sounds as if Oxo has summed it up again absolutely right. When I heard the team selection for the start of the game I could not believe it. How Mr Genius could pick that team and set up the midfield as he did is pathetic especially as we all saw how well Telford played at York St especially in midfield. Its not the young lads fault who got hooked off early in the second half, its the initial bad team selection down to the manager. How lucky he then was after changing it too late, they had a player sent off and we then played a lot better. I like Roberts as a player in midfield but he cant do it all on his own and then Mr Genius starts to criticise him in the post match interview and also Pidge for one of the goals-- unbelievable. Two of our better players, what must they think. Apart from the heroics as 4 or 5 players this would have been a disaster, definitely 2 points dropped, not the first this year because of bad team selections- all down to a very ordinary manager that does not deserve to be in charge of our great team.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: oxo on October 25, 2015, 12:24:45 PM
In fairness I think Dennis knew pretty quickly that the formation was wrong at the start of the game but with only three subs dare not make changes too early. We desperately need our injured players back as we are very threadbare at the moment and if we are not able to sign a tough midfielder need to get Garns in there asap. May I also add that the performance of Pidge was unbelievably brilliant.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: green hats mate on October 25, 2015, 03:29:01 PM
As usual it sounds as if Oxo has summed it up again absolutely right. When I heard the team selection for the start of the game I could not believe it. How Mr Genius could pick that team and set up the midfield as he did is pathetic especially as we all saw how well Telford played at York St especially in midfield. Its not the young lads fault who got hooked off early in the second half, its the initial bad team selection down to the manager. How lucky he then was after changing it too late, they had a player sent off and we then played a lot better. I like Roberts as a player in midfield but he cant do it all on his own and then Mr Genius starts to criticise him in the post match interview and also Pidge for one of the goals-- unbelievable. Two of our better players, what must they think. Apart from the heroics as 4 or 5 players this would have been a disaster, definitely 2 points dropped, not the first this year because of bad team selections- all down to a very ordinary manager that does not deserve to be in charge of our great team.

What team and formation would you have picked ?   
We have a manager who last season took us to the joint highest league position since Chestnuts took over ,  on reportedly lower budget .   
The last 4 matches minus 3/4 key players each match we have obtained 10 points , maintain this form and play-offs are certain .
In his radio interview Pidge admitted the their second goal was down to him and Garner .
Who were the 4/5 players that performed heroics ?

Now from the above how can you claim Greene is a very ordinary manager ?    You , like the rest of us posters on here cannot name a realistic target that can do a better job , or can you ?



Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: poshpilgrim on October 25, 2015, 03:36:19 PM
Tim Sherwood is available as may be 'the special one' soon  ;D
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Bodge on October 25, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
I've been critical of Dennis not getting a competitive squad together for the start of the season and I'm afraid the midfield is light when Garner isn't there. To be fair to Dennis he did say in one of the interviews that Telford surprised him playing 3 up front and he had to make changes, whether they were late in coming who knows. What is for sure is that we are missing Felix, Mills, Rollins, Jones and are in need of a good strong midfielder. Hopefully we can get those 4 back which will make the starting 11stronger and give options off the bench which isn't great and  limited at present. If we can hang on around the edge of the playoffs untill after xmas we will be in with a.shout of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Tash on October 25, 2015, 09:35:34 PM
To many keyboard managers on here, I would sooner leave the big decisions on BUFC to Mr Newton he gets them right most of the time. Don't get me wrong we are all entitled to our opinions but given the opportunity to take over from the Manager not one of us would be up to it.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: joshb on October 26, 2015, 09:48:16 AM
We're not a million miles away from the playoffs despite the fact we haven't once been able to field the XI we want and that it took 8 weeks for Dennis to sort out the team somewhat.

We are light of impact players from the bench and there's a few square pegs in round holes at the moment but I look at it like Fylde were there for the taking, we were ahead versus Tamworth/Chorley... we had a chance to win at Hednesford.

There's only Solihull who really impressed me and deserve to kane us. A top 5 place is there for the taking if we can consistently field our best XI with a few options to change the game from the bench

It doesn't excuse the fact this should've all been in place by August but whilst we're still 3 or 4 points behind where we'd want to be, we've plenty of time to make that up. 15 games in last year, I think we had 2 more points
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on October 26, 2015, 11:38:48 AM
DT - you say that DG doesn't deserve to  'be in charge of our great team'.

Surely this is his team. He signed all the players. Whether he manages them to your expectations each week is another matter but it is his team.

Football is a strange game - and there are always many reasons which we will never understand as to why a manager will make decisions on tactics, squad, formation etc. And it's always so easy with hindsight to jump onto your keyboard and tell the manager what he should have done.

I went to see Gillingham v Southend on Saturday. Gillingham top of League 1 and unbeaten at home. Southend controlled the game from start to finish. In fact, the home team hardly had a shot on target in the whole game - certainly nothing to trouble the keeper. They only scored in the last minute with a cross which was caught by the wind and flew into the top corner. The Gillingham fans were moaning about this and that - which players had been left on the bench, who should have started up front etc etc etc. That's football. If every manager got it right every game he would probably be in charge of Barcelona.

TEP
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: Keynsham Pilgrim on October 26, 2015, 12:54:08 PM
I thought that the midfield was virtually non-existent for most of the first half, which as a whole was spectacularly poor.  The lack of closing down form either midfield or defence for their first was poor but the defending or lack thereof from the big punt upfield for their second was worse.  However the hit and hope nature of our play on what looked a good surface was shocking.

Second half was much better with the changes made although, admittedly, it did help when they had a man sent off (correctly) and conceded a goal and their confidence visibly drained away.  The build up with the controlled passing and waiting for a space to open up for Dayle was excellent and befitting of a league much higher than ours.  The disappointment was that with 20 mins or so still to go we didn't really kick on and test their keeper.

Unlike the home fans, and a couple of here, i thought the referee had a good game and got most things about right.  If Pidge's cut was bleeding then it is right that he stays off and gets it sorted before he can be let back on and so i can't see how we can complain about that.
Title: Re: Utd away at Telford
Post by: BostonGoals on October 27, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
Telford seem to be underachieving don't they? They've got great facilities at this level, decent crowds, a really good location for attracting youngsters and loanees from the Midlands, but always seem to be yo-yoing between the North and the Prem.

As for the game, we would have lost comfortably without their sending off, and they're on a bit of a roll and better than their position suggests.