Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: howmanynames2pick on September 19, 2015, 05:34:33 PM
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I'm sure others will elaborate
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Unlucky, better team for 80 mins thought the formation of 6-3-1 nullified the opposition well and apart from the 10 minute spell when they scored 2 lucky goals and a dubious penalty we had them in our pockets,
How Jay Dowie never got MOM I will never know he worked his socks off and found his man with his aimless passing twice.
;D
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Unlucky when. Where we're the shots where was the energy. The passion. It was poor and pathetic
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Well, you must have watched a different game to me.
THEY were better all over the pitch, we were ok and that's about it!! Long balls to know one, headed out with ease, midfield quicker, neater than us. Penalty, it looked a foul to me and i was stood York Street side of the half way line, in the box, stonewall penalty.
We never looked like scoring until Rollins came on, he was the only one with any pace up front.
Den, needs to have a re-think, cos it's not working!!! Crowds soon down to 800/900 if he doesn't sort it out.
MOM, Zak Mills, good choice worked hard all game.
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Very poor looked okish until they scored then we went to pieces for 10 mins .The way the ref was you could tell that any
chance he would give a penalty . not a Dowie fan but agree was m o t m today . If we loose next week I think mr greene will
be looking for another job .
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UNLUCKY?? DONT THINK SO!
#Outmuscled everywhere today...
#The team is not settled...it changes every week...
#Greene should have made all these changes in the Summer when it didn't matter-not in September..
#We need to learn how to defend FAST! With Piergianni and Mills in the team its strange that we concede so many goals...
#Southwell must be so frustrated playing in this "team"....he is head and shoulders above any other players we have...hes so often not on the same wavelength as the others...
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Absolute rubbish.....again.....so poor after the high during the second half of last season...
Why take walker off and leave number 7 and Greene on....staggering
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Absolute rubbish.....again.....so poor after the high during the second half of last season...
Why take walker off and leave number 7 and Greene on....staggering
Bit harsh. It looked like a 0-0 or one would sneak it. 3-0 flattered them.
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Sorry I was taking the p
That was absolute crap,
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Had 0-0 written all over it until we capitulated. They were no where near Solihull in ability and thought we had them at arms length.
Did their first look handball to everyone else? After that it was a mess and we need to sort that, and fast.
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Pathetic....blame Den
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UNLUCKY?? DONT THINK SO!
#Outmuscled everywhere today...
#The team is not settled...it changes every week...
#Greene should have made all these changes in the Summer when it didn't matter-not in September..
#We need to learn how to defend FAST! With Piergianni and Mills in the team its strange that we concede so many goals...
#Southwell must be so frustrated playing in this "team"....he is head and shoulders above any other players we have...hes so often not on the same wavelength as the others...
If any defence isn't protected people will score goals
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I've seen 4 games so far this season so maybe I'm not in a good position to judge.
My opinion for what it's worth is that we are a bit lightweight compared to the likes of Fylde who appear physically stronger and fitter. We play some great stuff in the first half, but if we don't score we get punished later on when the oppositions strength and fitness start to make a difference.
We did play some great football early on though, and if we'd got a goal it would have been a different story I think.
Hope we get an early goal next week as we need a Cup run more than ever this season :dan
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So if we had the better of them for 86 mins of the game why did they win. Of course its obvious, they scored more goals than us. So everyones answer seems to be better defenders. My answer is to get goal scorers who play for us. No complaints against Southwell but we can't expect him to do it all on his own. Without Jones we seemed to play with more vigour for longer. I loved the way there players took a pot at our goal from out of the box. We need to do more of that. In fact a couple of training sessions just shooting at goal might help.
Anyway after next Saturday we will be able to focus on the play offs. Zak my MoM. Dowie did very well.
Next Saturday I will be in Fylde area and was planning to travel back to Gainsborough for the game. I hope my joourney will be worth while.
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That performance overall was disappointing, the RB, Richards, was MOTM. Mills did okay, as did Dowie and Sarpong. This team concede goals because the centre of midfield isn't good enough (Garner is not a CM and Dowie isn't good enough, yes he did alright today but that was a first. Passing is dreadful, positional sense is lacking and his timing is abysmal.) and Piergianni isn't an intelligent defender, who tries to go through the back of someone going to the corner flag? (look at how many of his bookings have come from stupid tackles/decisions.)
Going forward we didn't really offer much until Rollins came on and added some directness, how Greene stayed on for so long is beyond me, he couldn't beat his man all day. Walker was poor in the final third, especially when trying to play the killer ball to Greene, Sarpong or Southwell. What doesn't help is that all those players don't make helpful or intelligent runs and just run toward goal expecting the ball to be played in front of them.... not going to happen.
When Rollins and Dixon came on we looked okay and actually tested their keeper, however relying on Garner to fill in positions all through the spine of the team concerns me. He's not a striker and he's not a midfielder and it shows (He plays box to box and as soon as the attacking play breaks down he's caught the wrong side and struggles to get back into a defensive position.) It just begs the question why players weren't signed for those positions in the summer.
On the whole very disappointing, the team selection worried me and when the first goal was conceded there was no sign of a change, to be honest I don't understand how there wasn't a change sooner after half time considering how certain players performed in the first half. Rollins and Dixon have to start next game, no questions asked.
#EndRant
On to Gainsborough.
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Garry, Dowie tried five switches in the first half all failed to meet the player. To sum it up for me without Scholesy we had no one to create, and were beaten by a very good team. Sadly despite our players best efforts we have no cohesian. But applauded our guys off but this season is going to be a struggle.
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Why are we playing well for only an hour or so and then falling to bits? Is it that the players are not fit enough to see out ninety minutes? it appears so. I am still finding it difficult to understand some selections and some substitutions. I have read a couple of posts that suggest Dowey played well, I know we all have our opinions and I respect that but how could anyone think that is beyond me, How he could be preferred to Dixon is unbelievable. How on earth could Rollins (possibly our best attacking player) be relegated to the bench and only be brought on when it was too late. All I will say is it is fast becoming farcical and there needs to be a complete rethink and big shake up one way or t'other.
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Yes, a disappointing result, especially after the win on Wednesday night.
The combination of having an unsettled squad and having played most of the teams that are likely to be there or thereabouts at the end of the season seems to have hurt us - and we've lost our way a bit.
I don't think today was a disaster by any means. One particular loud mouth in the main stand (who always seems to make DG turn around) was going on like it was a total catastrophe. I don't think there's any doubt that AFCF are a better team than us - and I think we did well to match them for a large part of the contest. Unfortunately, the goals in quick succession totally killed the game as far as both the team and the crowd were concerned. Most sat around me were a bit shell shocked at what had happened - it certainly didn't look like that was going to be the outcome as we progressed through the second half.
If I'm honest, I think DG thought at the start of the season that we were probably good enough to compete again this season, didn't / couldn't strengthen the squad appropriately and now he's having to run around and try and rectify the situation. Personally, I don't think he's far off having a decent team - he just needs to decide upon a settled eleven out of all the players that we have floating around at the moment (his actions sometimes remind me of SE - getting lots of players in and hoping that one or two will fit the bill). When he gets that I think we will start to improve and get some more consistency - although I still don't think we have the quality to match the top few sides in this league over the course of a season. Certainly think we miss Kane Felix. He was probably our most improved player towards the end of last season. Unfortunately, it looks like he may be out for a while with his injury.
Probably DG's most testing time of his tenure as expectations are relatively high after last season's near miss. I wouldn't want to go through the upheaval of getting a new manager in though. On the basis that every manager, player etc goes through difficult times in their career, I would like to see the support stick together and back DG to get the ship back on course.
TEP
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Yes, a disappointing result, especially after the win on Wednesday night.
The combination of having an unsettled squad and having played most of the teams that are likely to be there or thereabouts at the end of the season seems to have hurt us - and we've lost our way a bit.
I don't think today was a disaster by any means. One particular loud mouth in the main stand (who always seems to make DG turn around) was going on like it was a total catastrophe. I don't think there's any doubt that AFCF are a better team than us - and I think we did well to match them for a large part of the contest. Unfortunately, the goals in quick succession totally killed the game as far as both the team and the crowd were concerned. Most sat around me were a bit shell shocked at what had happened - it certainly didn't look like that was going to be the outcome as we progressed through the second half.
If I'm honest, I think DG thought at the start of the season that we were probably good enough to compete again this season, didn't / couldn't strengthen the squad appropriately and now he's having to run around and try and rectify the situation. Personally, I don't think he's far off having a decent team - he just needs to decide upon a settled eleven out of all the players that we have floating around at the moment (his actions sometimes remind me of SE - getting lots of players in and hoping that one or two will fit the bill). When he gets that I think we will start to improve and get some more consistency - although I still don't think we have the quality to match the top few sides in this league over the course of a season. Certainly think we miss Kane Felix. He was probably our most improved player towards the end of last season. Unfortunately, it looks like he may be out for a while with his injury.
Probably DG's most testing time of his tenure as expectations are relatively high after last season's near miss. I wouldn't want to go through the upheaval of getting a new manager in though. On the basis that every manager, player etc goes through difficult times in their career, I would like to see the support stick together and back DG to get the ship back on course.
TEP
That's my feelings on it TEP.
They were never 3-0 better than us but the result will say otherwise.
Theyre second in the league and we aren't.
The big difference between the two clubs is budget.
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Certainly think we miss Kane Felix. He was probably our most improved player towards the end of last season.
TEP
Been called up for England C as has Joel Dixon
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The big difference between the two clubs is budget.
The sad thing is that Chestnuts have a budget for 500 houses and a new ground for the Pilgrims and also share the same Chairman as BUFC.
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The sad thing is that Chestnuts have a budget for 500 houses and a new ground for the Pilgrims and also share the same Chairman as BUFC.
That's a good thing !
However he isn't Abromavich, and the club isn't a plaything. (Fylde, Brackley, Ferriby)
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UNLUCKY?? DONT THINK SO!
#Outmuscled everywhere today...
#The team is not settled...it changes every week...
#Greene should have made all these changes in the Summer when it didn't matter-not in September..
#We need to learn how to defend FAST! With Piergianni and Mills in the team its strange that we concede so many goals...
#Southwell must be so frustrated playing in this "team"....he is head and shoulders above any other players we have...hes so often not on the same wavelength as the others...
If any defence isn't protected people will score goals
I agree....but isnt that what Garner is meant to do?
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The big difference between the two clubs is budget.
The sad thing is that Chestnuts have a budget for 500 houses and a new ground for the Pilgrims and also share the same Chairman as BUFC.
Its thanks to that chairmans financial support we have a team for us to come on here to discuss.
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The big difference between the two clubs is budget.
The sad thing is that Chestnuts have a budget for 500 houses and a new ground for the Pilgrims and also share the same Chairman as BUFC.
Its thanks to that chairmans financial support we have a team for us to come on here to discuss.
Totally agree GHM
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Disappointing no, utter garbage, yes. To carry on like this with the blind belief the play-offs are still possible under the current situation, then the man in charge has lost it. Reality check; the season is done, and defeat at gainsborough and an early cup exit should be, and needs to be, the final nail in the proverbial managerial coffin. I get the no budget routine, but resigning players that weren't good enough last year should tell the fans about the limited ideas the man has. When we're winning and things are rosy, it's great, but when things aren't going well, he has no idea how to turn things around. No idea who should take the helm, but the guy there now just isn't doing it for the club or the fans. Time for change...
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my gran/dad sed we play like a flock of sheep with no leader on the pitch or off and if u think he will strike his bulldozers up 4 this lot to play on the new ground then u got another think comin gran/dad also said d'g should look at some of our local lads andvillage teams befor bringin some of these socalled star lone playerss in
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The sad thing is that Chestnuts have a budget for 500 houses and a new ground for the Pilgrims and also share the same Chairman as BUFC.
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Without David Newton and chestnut homes there would be no Boston United for us to support, he gives the manager a competitive budget while also sorting out a new stadium to provide us with a sustainable future, look at the bigger picture,we have a massive future, these small clubs chucking silly money at the budget will not last long on crowds of 300, I would rather have a future than very short term success.
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UNLUCKY?? DONT THINK SO!
#Outmuscled everywhere today...
#The team is not settled...it changes every week...
#Greene should have made all these changes in the Summer when it didn't matter-not in September..
#We need to learn how to defend FAST! With Piergianni and Mills in the team its strange that we concede so many goals...
#Southwell must be so frustrated playing in this "team"....he is head and shoulders above any other players we have...hes so often not on the same wavelength as the others...
If any defence isn't protected people will score goals
I agree....but isnt that what Garner is meant to do?
Supposedly I was just making the point when a defence is overloaded people will score
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Disappointing no, utter garbage, yes. To carry on like this with the blind belief the play-offs are still possible under the current situation, then the man in charge has lost it. Reality check; the season is done, and defeat at gainsborough and an early cup exit should be, and needs to be, the final nail in the proverbial managerial coffin. I get the no budget routine, but resigning players that weren't good enough last year should tell the fans about the limited ideas the man has. When we're winning and things are rosy, it's great, but when things aren't going well, he has no idea how to turn things around. No idea who should take the helm, but the guy there now just isn't doing it for the club or the fans. Time for change...
my gran/dad sed we play like a flock of sheep with no leader on the pitch or off and if u think he will strike his bulldozers up 4 this lot to play on the new ground then u got another think comin gran/dad also said d'g should look at some of our local lads andvillage teams befor bringin some of these socalled star lone playerss in
Above posts a great example of the exitremes of postings on Patter .
W K P lists all what he considers our managers failures and then admits he cannot name anyone to replace him ::), sad reflection on other managers out seeking work .
In contrast we have the ever dependable miele , straight to the point and offers his grand-dads answer to our managerial problem, putting the undecided posters to shame . :angel:
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yes the match was disappointing result, But Flyde was nothing special, just that our defence is not good enough
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Is it out defence is not good enough or is it our attacks do not worry the opposition enough that they have to keep back to defend their own goal.
I also think that that the play offs are out of reach already but without hope, high expectations or ambition what's the point. I will keep going not only because I have paid for my season ticket but because I believe the players really try to win and are hampered by the decisions/tactics of the boss. Why did the Americans go to the Moon, not because it was easy but because it was difficult. Why do we keep going to support the club, not because they are capable of winning the the league but because we hope they will.
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No midfield! Need to put McGhee in to kick a few!
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Disappointing no, utter garbage, yes. To carry on like this with the blind belief the play-offs are still possible under the current situation, then the man in charge has lost it. Reality check; the season is done, and defeat at gainsborough and an early cup exit should be, and needs to be, the final nail in the proverbial managerial coffin. I get the no budget routine, but resigning players that weren't good enough last year should tell the fans about the limited ideas the man has. When we're winning and things are rosy, it's great, but when things aren't going well, he has no idea how to turn things around. No idea who should take the helm, but the guy there now just isn't doing it for the club or the fans. Time for change...
my gran/dad sed we play like a flock of sheep with no leader on the pitch or off and if u think he will strike his bulldozers up 4 this lot to play on the new ground then u got another think comin gran/dad also said d'g should look at some of our local lads andvillage teams befor bringin some of these socalled star lone playerss in
Above posts a great example of the exitremes of postings on Patter .
W K P lists all what he considers our managers failures and then admits he cannot name anyone to replace him ::), sad reflection on other managers out seeking work .
In contrast we have the ever dependable miele , straight to the point and offers his grand-dads answer to our managerial problem, putting the undecided posters to shame . :angel: boring boring boring who would you choose then? And why?
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Disappointing no, utter garbage, yes. To carry on like this with the blind belief the play-offs are still possible under the current situation, then the man in charge has lost it. Reality check; the season is done, and defeat at gainsborough and an early cup exit should be, and needs to be, the final nail in the proverbial managerial coffin. I get the no budget routine, but resigning players that weren't good enough last year should tell the fans about the limited ideas the man has. When we're winning and things are rosy, it's great, but when things aren't going well, he has no idea how to turn things around. No idea who should take the helm, but the guy there now just isn't doing it for the club or the fans. Time for change...
my gran/dad sed we play like a flock of sheep with no leader on the pitch or off and if u think he will strike his bulldozers up 4 this lot to play on the new ground then u got another think comin gran/dad also said d'g should look at some of our local lads andvillage teams befor bringin some of these socalled star lone playerss in
Above posts a great example of the exitremes of postings on Patter .
W K P lists all what he considers our managers failures and then admits he cannot name anyone to replace him ::), sad reflection on other managers out seeking work .
In contrast we have the ever dependable miele , straight to the point and offers his grand-dads answer to our managerial problem, putting the undecided posters to shame . :angel: boring boring boring who would you choose then? And why?
I,ve not suggested changing the manager WKP and will not until I can suggest a realistic alternative !
You suggested a change of manager , who do you suggest as a replacement ?
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Change the manager?
The guy who got us to third last year?
He ain't perfect but he's doing a decent job on a very limited budget.
There will be ups and downs..and to be fair it's a bit down at the mo.
But it's football...things can change and I think he can change it.
Solihull will at some stage go through a bad spell.....we're just getting ours out the way early on ;)
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Totally frustrating for the fans and the players. How can we put up with this manager any longer. Loan players who are not ready for this league, but get preference and have to play under the terms set by their parent club, this means our existing better players are out of position, eg Marrs should be right sided, and I still think that Garner is a much better centre back than midfielder although he does add some much needed grit there.
We are constantly outmuscled by most opposition, especially after the first 30 or so minutes. Our problem is complacency in the close season when we all know we needed 4 or 5 better players to come into the squad and the manager has done virtually nothing to add strength and depth to the squad, now having to rely on inferior loan signings.
Changes are vital asap.
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As i said in a previous post, no pace. Scott is a C/H not a midfield player, L/M is a R/B not a L/B, we never replaced Rene Steer and boy does it show.
Dale is a smashing player, will get goals if given the correct service. Even at this level it's all about pace, missing Felix and that shows too. Rollins came on and added pace and could have grabbed himself a goal.
No doubt Den is wondering who he can get in to bring that pace to the team.
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Brilliant McGhee has left the club! Sensible choice from him!
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Brilliant McGhee has left the club! Sensible choice from him!
Grammar Nazi alert..............
shouldn't there be a comma between "brilliant" and "McGhee" ?
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So we've gone from being in the play offs to being exactly where we were at the beginning of last season. Not knowing the strongest 11, playing players out of position and having a merry go round of loan players.
This all stems from being inactive in recruiting players during the summer where excuses are being trotted out about being outbid for players we approached. It's not as if we had a massive shopping list either so to blame other clubs for out spending us doesn't wash. The manager and scout needed to be researching potential realistic signings as soon as possible. We had all summer to make a couple of decent signings to bolster a very capable core from last season. And before anyone jumps down my throat regarding budgets and living beyond our means, I would hope we are looking at upcoming cheaper players rather than non league journeymen or non league superstars.
We've now in danger of losing any floating fans we picked up due to last seasons success. Let's just hope Den and the scout can find a few gems in the next couple of weeks. I firmly believe with a couple of decent additions this team can get back to winning ways. Good players don't suddenly become useless over night but the team as a whole is fastly descending into chaos with the combination of out of position players and poor tactics from the management.
As my old man used to tell me, only a fool makes the same mistake twice and this is exactly what's happened with our woeful start and lack of recruitment. Any possible momentum from last season has been lost and we're falling behind play off contenders. Hopefully the necessary changes will come soon and we can start to enjoy our football once again.
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Wow, someone else saying what I have been saying for weeks, just like the beginning of last season. Nuff said.
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This all stems from being inactive in recruiting players during the summer where excuses are being trotted out about being outbid for players we approached. It's not as if we had a massive shopping list either so to blame other clubs for out spending us doesn't wash. The manager and scout needed to be researching potential realistic signings as soon as possible. We had all summer to make a couple of decent signings to bolster a very capable core from last season.
As my old man used to tell me, only a fool makes the same mistake twice and this is exactly what's happened with our woeful start and lack of recruitment.
So Den's 6 week holiday in Benidorm wasn't for recruiting new players then?.........
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As my old man used to tell me, only a fool makes the same mistake twice and this is exactly what's happened with our woeful start and lack of recruitment.
So it seems that most BUFC fans are fools then, as they understood the relative lack of movement. If only hindsight was tangible...
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Captain clean great first post, couldn't agree more to be honest
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Captain clean great first post, couldn't agree more to be honest
New name for old poster methinks , then who cares .
fT.
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Best wishes to Jamie McGhee. Sadly his time at Boston dogged by injury and not sure that he was in the managers plans even when fit. Always gave 100%, good luck for the future Jamie.