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Title: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Hugo on October 22, 2009, 08:25:04 PM
http://www.bufc.co.uk/article/2996962/United-sign-striker-Weir-Daley

I have heard we were looking at him when we were in the BSN - fantastic signing or what?!
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on October 22, 2009, 08:30:16 PM
I've heard of him, highly unexpected.

Begs the question, who was the last double barrelled surnamed player to play for us?
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Sussex Pilgrim on October 22, 2009, 08:36:41 PM
Well he wasn't at Ilkeston long,

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/sport/FA-Cup-distraction-Robins-warns-boss-Wilson/article-1385637-detail/article.html
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Richie..p on October 22, 2009, 08:59:39 PM
Shit the bed. Now I can see why we cleared some room in the squad. Big name (not just being double barrelled LOL ;D) Lets hope he is (dare I say it) the missing part of the jigsaw. (there I said it!!). Certainly another striking option to what we already have. The reason I say S.T.B was that I thought he would be playing further up the pyramid than the seventh tier.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: SAFC-BUFC on October 22, 2009, 09:19:33 PM
well done boston, great signing blue sq north here come
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on October 22, 2009, 09:23:13 PM
VERY Surprised, looks a cracking signing.  But can he do it on the pitch?  Let's hope so!

Well done BUFC on getting him in.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Shodfried on October 22, 2009, 09:27:19 PM
6 clubs at 24 years old tells me he's not one to hang around anywhere long..... :-\
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on October 22, 2009, 09:30:30 PM
I knew you would come back with something like that!  ;o)

Nah you are right to be cautious as it is a big number of clubs BUT lets face facts if we can get him banging in the goals he will help us and himself move onwards and upwards so we BOTH need it to come off where before he could just pick up the pay i guess?

I'm assuming he is now the Patter sponsored player?
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: JPR Williams on October 22, 2009, 09:40:26 PM
It's a great signing, well done for landing him!
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: father Ted on October 22, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
 Wonder who'll he replace .. I would put him straight in .
    Not  t. i. Newsham ..
     So maybe D. D will have to warm the bench  ..
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: fcum_91 on October 22, 2009, 09:41:49 PM
Must say sounds a great signing  :)
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: sparks on October 22, 2009, 10:29:45 PM
Wonder who'll he replace .. I would put him straight in .
    Not  t. i. Newsham ..
     So maybe D. D will have to warm the bench  ..

 Here we go again, why drop any of the current winning side just to accomodate a new
 signing ? O.K. Danny may not be everyones choice and as far as 'tap in Newsham' is
 concerned well he may just have to be rested giving consideration i think he has started
 just about every game.The dilema the Management will have with Newsham is he always
 looks fresh but everything considered he always will as his workrate throughout the 90
 mins is only a third of any of the strikers he has partnered to date!!

 Will be interesting to see if the new signing is an out and out target man in a three or
 wether or not he plays wide in that 4-3-3 formation the management thinks works.
 Absouletly nothing wrong in freshening things up but i would want the midfield personel
 to be better covered in the likely event of injuries/suspensions,the players in there
 presently seem to pick themselves........ just an observation.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Richie..p on October 22, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
I don't remember SWD (Can I call him SWD? well Man city have SWP so we can have SWD) for being a target man more of a pacey direct player. He may even shoot from distance occasionally.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: BUFC Loyal on October 22, 2009, 10:39:07 PM
didn't expect this one at all  :o ;D

lets hope he fits in with the system and bangs a few goals  ;D
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on October 22, 2009, 10:47:48 PM
Won't go straight into the team surely as he hasn't played games so will need fitness rather than 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Richie..p on October 22, 2009, 10:52:26 PM
Wikipedia dont mess around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Weir-Daley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Weir-Daley)
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: father Ted on October 22, 2009, 11:19:11 PM
Wikipedia dont mess around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Weir-Daley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Weir-Daley)
In  what way ?
  I think anyone can add things on his entry .
   On 2nd thoughts he can start instead of t i N .
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: sparks on October 22, 2009, 11:56:28 PM
I don't remember SWD (Can I call him SWD? well Man city have SWP so we can have SWD) for being a target man more of a pacey direct player. He may even shoot from distance occasionally.

 I can only presume from the above quote we have another Marc 'tap in' Newsham fan!
 
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Tash on October 23, 2009, 08:29:17 AM
I don't remember SWD (Can I call him SWD? well Man city have SWP so we can have SWD) for being a target man more of a pacey direct player. He may even shoot from distance occasionally.

 I can only presume from the above quote we have another Marc 'tap in' Newsham fan!
 

Yes and without tap in we would be sitting round about mid table.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Wembley 85 on October 23, 2009, 08:40:34 AM
I don't remember SWD (Can I call him SWD? well Man city have SWP so we can have SWD) for being a target man more of a pacey direct player. He may even shoot from distance occasionally.

 I can only presume from the above quote we have another Marc 'tap in' Newsham fan!
 

Yes and without tap in we would be sitting round about mid table.

I entirely agree Dave.  Ian Rush only ever put the ball in the net - was he critised for his workrate??????
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Richie..p on October 23, 2009, 09:11:42 AM
I like newsham as a player and he scores goals. So no there's no connection in what I said above.

SWD will not start due to lack of fitness. SWD will shoot from distance FACT, my criticism of shooting from distance was aimed at the current eleven.

Sorry  for the misunderstanding.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: beefpilgrim on October 23, 2009, 09:25:17 AM
Surely a strikers role is to be in the right place at the right time and stick it in the net what more can you ask? And newsham has done this has he not?

As long as he keeps scoring im happy with that, and we should be there or there abouts at the end of the season if that continues.

I might be wrong but i think SWD can also play as a winger which gives us further options............ good signing hopefully!
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on October 23, 2009, 09:50:08 AM
Well I didn't see that one coming!!Potentially a very interesting signing.Well done S&H for getting him here.Let's hope he can do the business.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Seenbetter on October 23, 2009, 12:18:23 PM
 He looks like the type of signing we have been calling for. SnH are full of surprises. Can't wait to see what they are getting me for Xmas.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Ken Fox on October 23, 2009, 12:24:34 PM
Some chap called Pete Brooksbank thought that Spencer Weir Daley was a good prospect back in 2005.

http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/N230705.html (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/N230705.html)
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: green hats mate on October 23, 2009, 01:15:53 PM
Sparks is about right in Newshams workrate being a third of his fellow strikers .
 Can remember Andy Kirk having a workrate of 10% of his fellow strikers .
 Staurt Douglas had a work rate of 300% more than  his fellow strikers.
 Goes to show that maybe the best way to judge a striker is by the number of goals he scores.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Tash on October 23, 2009, 01:24:07 PM
Sparks is about right in Newshams workrate being a third of his fellow strikers .
 Can remember Andy Kirk having a workrate of 10% of his fellow strikers .
 Staurt Douglas had a work rate of 300% more than  his fellow strikers.
 Goes to show that maybe the best way to judge a striker is by the number of goals he scores.

Spot on ghm. Remember watching Viv Busby at Norwich and a bloke behind me said "that Busbys a lazy sod" 20 minutes later he had scored a hat trick nuff said.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: londonpilgrim on October 23, 2009, 01:47:18 PM
As a forest season ticket holder i've seen a fair bit of spence. He certainly had potential but seems to have lost his way a fair bit. Had a couple of good loan spells out but never really did it when he signed for notts.

Unfortunately i can't compare him to our current strikers as i still haven't managed to make a bloody game this season!
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: deano on October 23, 2009, 02:55:33 PM
anyone know if he is contract or non contract ?
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: PompeyPilgrim on October 23, 2009, 05:07:11 PM
Must say; brilliant signing from our joint managers.  Hope we can get a good result tomorrow.  Up the Pilgrims!!!
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: leicester pilgrim on October 23, 2009, 06:12:44 PM
I've heard of him, highly unexpected.

Begs the question, who was the last double barrelled surnamed player to play for us?

Does Dany N-Guessan count?
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: townender3385 on October 23, 2009, 07:40:34 PM
Last person with a double barrelled surname to play for us is...
Kevin Aherne-Evans on loan in 2002
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 23, 2009, 07:57:06 PM
David De Oliveira not count?
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: sparks on October 23, 2009, 08:13:15 PM
Sparks is about right in Newshams workrate being a third of his fellow strikers .
 Can remember Andy Kirk having a workrate of 10% of his fellow strikers .
 Staurt Douglas had a work rate of 300% more than  his fellow strikers.
 Goes to show that maybe the best way to judge a striker is by the number of goals he scores.

 Fair point but with reservations. I am all in favour of players being given acolade for
 their performances but overall contribution should be part of the equation.Certain
 players have been subject of criticism over the opening part of the campaign for their
 lack of workrate and ambition at the club which is  pretty damming giving consideration
 to lack lustre performances from Marc Newsham.Yes,i am not a Newsham fan but will
 accept his strike rate has enabled us to win games and to where we find ourselves at
 present in the Premier Division.
 What i would want to see from him is a bit more passion and expression in his overall
 game before he wins me over. Having said that , i'll settle for a hat trick from him at
 Nantwich tomorrow..................!!!
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Tash on October 24, 2009, 10:32:49 AM
The reason why Newsham appears to be less energetic than his fellow strikers  over the 90 mins is simple. He usually scores his goals by making short but explosive runs to enable his tap ins, if he was running for the best part of the game imo his goal tally would be halved. I would also hazard a guess that the management team want him to play that way.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: sparks on October 24, 2009, 12:09:58 PM
The reason why Newsham appears to be less energetic than his fellow strikers  over the 90 mins is simple. He usually scores his goals by making short but explosive runs to enable his tap ins, if he was running for the best part of the game imo his goal tally would be halved. I would also hazard a guess that the management team want him to play that way.

 In that case Tash maybe we should be questioning his fitness levels, the Management
 comment on passion and  desire which contributes to success on the pitch but i along
 with several fans i speak with share my opinion that Marc is very much a luxury in what
 deems to be a very hard working squad.I have already made comment in previous
 posts i do not knock his goal ratio,but as someone else comments his goal to miss
 ratio is getting a little bit worrying when even well placed in front of goal,other strikers
 have been openly criticised for similar offences and have been penalised. More workrate
 please Mr Newsham would bring you greater rewards i'm sure
.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Wembley 85 on October 24, 2009, 12:20:19 PM
I'm sorry, but I agree with Tash.

those strikers that get "tap ins" do tend to do little else. Newsahm has got what, 1 in every 2 games or thereabouts? That is the return of a quality striker.

I love to see a striker work his nuts off for 90 mins, but I'll take a sniffer who taps in every second game, over a worker that scores every 3 games everytime.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Carol Voce on October 24, 2009, 01:11:42 PM
6 clubs at 24 years old tells me he's not one to hang around anywhere long..... :-\


That's misleading, Mr Negativity. He's had two clubs (Forest and Notts), three loan deals, plus whatever the arrangement was at Ilkeston (non contract, I suspect). Yes, technically six clubs, but loan deals these days tend to be temporary and are used to keep players match fit.

It's pretty obvious that he showed a lot of potential early on and now, at the age of 24, needs to prove himself if he wants to continue in football at a decent level. I think the best we can  hope for is that he bangs in 20 goals for us between now and the end of the season, we get promoted, and he lands himself a full-time contract with a Div 2/Conf team.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: green hats mate on October 24, 2009, 02:25:08 PM
Stand to be corrected but i think Ricky Miller has had at least 6 clubs at the age of 21.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Ed Kandi on October 24, 2009, 02:45:32 PM
Looks like a good signing  8)
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Tash on October 24, 2009, 03:31:14 PM
The reason why Newsham appears to be less energetic than his fellow strikers  over the 90 mins is simple. He usually scores his goals by making short but explosive runs to enable his tap ins, if he was running for the best part of the game imo his goal tally would be halved. I would also hazard a guess that the management team want him to play that way.

 In that case Tash maybe we should be questioning his fitness levels, the Management
 comment on passion and  desire which contributes to success on the pitch but i along
 with several fans i speak with share my opinion that Marc is very much a luxury in what
 deems to be a very hard working squad.I have already made comment in previous
 posts i do not knock his goal ratio,but as someone else comments his goal to miss
 ratio is getting a little bit worrying when even well placed in front of goal,other strikers
 have been openly criticised for similar offences and have been penalised. More workrate
 please Mr Newsham would bring you greater rewards i'm sure
.


We'll have to agree to disagree. But I would have Newsham in my side with his record sooner than a worker like Douglas. Mind you Jimmy Greaves was also a luxury at West Ham & Spurs
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 24, 2009, 05:11:22 PM
Newsham  scores again ! He is class.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on October 24, 2009, 05:15:22 PM
Newsham  scores again ! He is class.
Surely you mean "tap-in Newsham" ;D ;D
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: green hats mate on October 24, 2009, 05:15:34 PM
 Big issue with Danny today though , Sounds as if his gaols were tap-ins.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Sussex Pilgrim on October 24, 2009, 05:18:43 PM
That Newsham chap just does not work hard enough does he  ::) :D
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Bostonshire on October 24, 2009, 05:19:45 PM
Newsham  scores again ! He is class.
Surely you mean "tap-in Newsham" ;D ;D

Hell of a tap in to day
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Lee Newell on October 24, 2009, 05:21:18 PM
while newsham and davidson  keep scoring, is there a place in the team for Weir Daley?
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 24, 2009, 05:22:05 PM
Newsham is now on 10 goals. I'm struggling to remember when a Boston player last scored 10 in a season let alone by the end of October.
(Get down the Gym you lazy sod lol)
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Bostonshire on October 24, 2009, 05:26:05 PM
olli got 20 to 22 last season
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 24, 2009, 05:35:03 PM
Oh yeah - how easy you forget players isnt it. ;D
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Bostonshire on October 24, 2009, 05:35:55 PM
aint it just  ;D
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 24, 2009, 06:55:07 PM
aint it just  ;D
Harrogate Town: today
 Arron Hernandez, Simon Harrison (Jon Maloney), Ben Chapman, Michael Wood, Matt Bloomer, Brian Dutton, Jamie Harwood, Richard Dunning (Dave McTiernan), Ollie Ryan  (Warren Burrell), Trevor Benjamin, Rory Coleman
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on October 24, 2009, 07:34:24 PM
aint it just  ;D
Harrogate Town: today
 Arron Hernandez, Simon Harrison (Jon Maloney), Ben Chapman, Michael Wood, Matt Bloomer, Brian Dutton, Jamie Harwood, Richard Dunning (Dave McTiernan), Ollie Ryan  (Warren Burrell), Trevor Benjamin, Rory Coleman
There's no wonder they're bottom but one in BSN.I wonder if "captain clean" has tried to tackle anybody yet this season.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: kingofnaves on October 24, 2009, 07:49:38 PM
How many did Froggy score last season? 25 or 26
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on October 24, 2009, 07:53:19 PM
How many did Froggy score last season? 25 or 26
kon,I think you missed out the decimal point. ;D
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 24, 2009, 09:00:16 PM
Big issue with Danny today though , Sounds as if his gaols were tap-ins.
First one was from about 6 yards, but he blasted it. Second one was similar to his second at FC United, ball dragged back and he nipped in at the near post
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: woad_pilgrim on October 24, 2009, 09:43:55 PM
Newsham  scores again ! He is class.
Surely you mean "tap-in Newsham" ;D ;D

Hell of a tap in to day
Yeah his first touch wasn't the best for the goal and I thought he'd lost his chance, but then produced a stunning finish...only for Dotty Cotton to score an even better goal later. If that Cotton goal had been on TV Lineker (another tap-in merchant  ::) ) et al would have been drooling over it for most of the show.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2009, 10:23:28 PM
How did SWD look today?
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on October 24, 2009, 10:40:25 PM
How did SWD look today?

Didn't get very long in truth, couple of nice touches but didn't offer any thing much extra as we were in cruise control anyway at the point he was introduced.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Rich 77 on October 25, 2009, 11:58:02 AM
Not being funny but SWD has scored only 12 goals in his entire career so saying things like 'best we can hope for is 20 goals this season' is a little over the top. I think we are getting a little bit too excited because we have actually signed someone who's name we recognise! I hope he can dop a job for us and the managers certainly seem to know what they are doing and what they want, so I trust them, but lets not build people up too high too soon as it leaves them with a long way to fall! As for Newsham, he is a striker and should be judged on goals alone as thats' his job, like keepers are judged on clean sheets and saves made.
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: simpilgrim on October 25, 2009, 04:44:11 PM
agreed rich77.....
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: MRDBATE on October 26, 2009, 12:26:41 AM
I WONDER WHY WHEN WE ASKED ROB SCOTT, JUST BEFORE THE CHORLEY GAME. HE DENIED ALL KNOWLEDEGE OF ANY NEW STRIKER ? HE SAID DONT BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ IN THE PAPERS ? & ABOVE ALL HE SAID WE GOT NO MONEY ????
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: fcum_91 on October 26, 2009, 12:37:59 AM
I WONDER WHY WHEN WE ASKED ROB SCOTT, JUST BEFORE THE CHORLEY GAME. HE DENIED ALL KNOWLEDEGE OF ANY NEW STRIKER ? HE SAID DONT BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ IN THE PAPERS ? & ABOVE ALL HE SAID WE GOT NO MONEY ????


It was supposed to be a suprise  ;)
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on October 26, 2009, 08:54:14 AM
I WONDER WHY WHEN WE ASKED ROB SCOTT, JUST BEFORE THE CHORLEY GAME. HE DENIED ALL KNOWLEDEGE OF ANY NEW STRIKER ? HE SAID DONT BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ IN THE PAPERS ? & ABOVE ALL HE SAID WE GOT NO MONEY ????


Did you ask politely or shout?
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 26, 2009, 12:35:11 PM

 ABOVE ALL HE SAID WE GOT NO MONEY ????


simple accounting - two players out one in :-X
Title: Re: Spencer Weir Daley!!
Post by: Rich 77 on October 27, 2009, 01:05:10 AM
It's not rocket science really is it!