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Title: new keeper?
Post by: Louth Pilgrim on June 18, 2014, 10:02:38 AM
I see that Alan Marriott has turned down a new deal on reduced terms at Mansfield. Seems he's starting up as an electrician so maybe he'll be looking for part time footy? Performed very well in League 2 last season and I think still lives near Lincoln.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: C.B. on June 18, 2014, 10:21:41 AM
I think King is decent....is Vince staying?
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Post by: poshpilgrim on June 18, 2014, 01:06:29 PM
Would see this as a waste of money as we already have a good keeper and can use youth keeper as cover if king gets injured.
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Post by: green hats mate on June 18, 2014, 02:25:51 PM
Would see this as a waste of money as we already have a good keeper and can use youth keeper as cover if king gets injured.

Agree,  Marriot is prone to errors King is a sounder option ,   I,m sure Imps need Marriot more than us .
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Post by: miele on June 18, 2014, 02:52:49 PM
I don't think its keepers we need worry about we have just one striker for sure   on the strength of taking a penalty against us.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Wembley 85 on June 20, 2014, 05:58:18 PM
Miele. Try that again, but this time in English.

Drop the 'for sure's' as it makes you sound Dutch. The rest of it is double Dutch at the moment.

Try a bit of punctuation, it it very hard to make any sense of what you've typed.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: miele on June 20, 2014, 08:20:00 PM
have BOSTON more than one striker;;;;;  for sure ???
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on June 20, 2014, 08:21:17 PM
I don't think much will make sense from him, even with punctuation.
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Post by: miele on June 20, 2014, 08:36:36 PM
HAVE you not got an answer :dan
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: doc on June 20, 2014, 10:39:32 PM
Have you got an answer
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Wembley 85 on June 20, 2014, 10:47:40 PM
Newsham + Southwell= 2 strikers. Your adding up is as good as your punctuation. Miller hasn't gone yet, and may end up staying. If so that is three.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Carl Newell on June 20, 2014, 11:59:36 PM
Plenty of options up front

Miller (looking much more likely now)
Newsham
Southwell
McGhee (played the last few games up front and did ok)
Sanders
Garner (does ok when asked to play up front and knows where the back of the net is)

Midfield is where we need to strengthen so far the team looks a bit like this for me:

King

Mills
Garner
Pidge
Steer

McGhee
???
???
???

Newsham
Miller (fingers crossed)

Subs
Southwell
Marshall
Galinski
GK???
???

So for me aslong as all the above sign up as expected then we just need to sign about 4 midfielders!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: BradHealy24 on June 22, 2014, 12:32:40 PM
you missed indy aujla
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Carl Newell on June 22, 2014, 03:49:38 PM
Indy hasn't been offered a deal of any kind but i applaud the him and good luck to the lad if he wants to stay and try to earn a deal. Also the possibility of Sam Vince staying is now looking possible as no one has come in for him as of yet and the fact that anyone who does would have to give us some sort of financial payment may put clubs off.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on June 22, 2014, 04:00:39 PM
How do you know no-one has come in for Vince? Just because you don't read about something, doesn't mean it isn't happening...

The compensation we'd be given for him at a tribunal would be nominal - it's any sell on percentage that would be key.
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Post by: B Grimes on June 22, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
Two worries to me Carl, despite some suggesting its because he is still a Cambs player even though they have officially released him is why Garns hasn't signed a contract yet, which apparently he could do whenever he wants as many other players in the same situation have done and it just starts whenever the club and he agrees?
Second one is Newsh, and though his loyalties are not the issue at all, last year he was the first player to sign and am just hoping the fact that as yet no announcement has been made on him doing so thus far is not a reflection of his knee. I remember reading he will be fit for pre season, but still a worry?
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Burgh Boy on June 22, 2014, 05:20:32 PM
How do you know no-one has come in for Vince? Just because you don't read about something, doesn't mean it isn't happening...

The compensation we'd be given for him at a tribunal would be nominal - it's any sell on percentage that would be key.
Chill P86!  8) He's only expressing his view or opinion! Whilst your posts are very knowledgeable and informative, we are all entitled to our opinion!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Carl Newell on June 22, 2014, 06:50:18 PM
By saying that no one has come in for Vince I simply meant he hasn't signed elsewhere yet; may still happen has most clubs haven't started pre- season trainning yet. Whilst I agree that the for Vince would be very little (at a guess 2-4k) alot of clubs don't like paying for players these days especially a 'keeper who would probably be seen as "one for the future" at a higher level, also (sometimes wrongly) smaller 'keepers often don't get an opportunity at a higher level. Personally I hope he stays from a fan point of view as he  is vocal, a good shot stopper and kicks well, on the other hand good luck to him if he gets a break at a higher level.
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Post by: Burgh Boy on June 22, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
By saying that no one has come in for Vince I simply meant he hasn't signed elsewhere yet; may still happen has most clubs haven't started pre- season trainning yet. Whilst I agree that the for Vince would be very little (at a guess 2-4k) alot of clubs don't like paying for players these days especially a 'keeper who would probably be seen as "one for the future" at a higher level, also (sometimes wrongly) smaller 'keepers often don't get an opportunity at a higher level. Personally I hope he stays from a fan point of view as he  is vocal, a good shot stopper and kicks well, on the other hand good luck to him if he gets a break at a higher level.
Absolutely. I know what you meant. Shame if Vince goes but he is a young lad with a potential professional (or at least a good semi-pro) career in the game. His future may be away from York Street/The Quadrant Stadium!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: oxo on June 23, 2014, 09:56:22 AM
Two worries to me Carl, despite some suggesting its because he is still a Cambs player even though they have officially released him is why Garns hasn't signed a contract yet, which apparently he could do whenever he wants as many other players in the same situation have done and it just starts whenever the club and he agrees?
Second one is Newsh, and though his loyalties are not the issue at all, last year he was the first player to sign and am just hoping the fact that as yet no announcement has been made on him doing so thus far is not a reflection of his knee. I remember reading he will be fit for pre season, but still a worry?

I hope DG is not taking Newsh for granted, Has he contacted him over the close season? Does he know if Newsh has got over his injury? I am told he hasn't but perhaps we will know come Tuesday.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Lee Newell on June 23, 2014, 01:05:11 PM
Usually around the time Pre-season training starts we get confirmation of players that are staying.

From previous reports all 6 defenders are staying, Newsh and hopefully Miller are staying. So that's the defence and strikers that are good enough to be challenging at the right end of the table. Just need some decent midfielders.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: bostonwoody on June 23, 2014, 03:28:58 PM
Usually around the time Pre-season training starts we get confirmation of players that are staying.

From previous reports all 6 defenders are staying, Newsh and hopefully Miller are staying. So that's the defence and strikers that are good enough to be challenging at the right end of the table. Just need some decent midfielders.


As Leonardo da Vince famously said
        "I've nearly finished the Sistine Chapel, I've just got to put the top coat on the ceiling."

Ever onward and upward
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Wembley 85 on June 23, 2014, 08:33:27 PM
Quote

As Leonardo da Vince famously said
        "I've nearly finished the Sistine Chapel, I've just got to put the top coat on the ceiling."

Ever onward and upward

Erm, not quite, that was painted by Michelangelo!!!!!!!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Burgh Boy on June 23, 2014, 09:07:01 PM
That's right...............Da Vinci has been contracted to paint The Quadrant?!!!!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: bostonwoody on June 24, 2014, 08:42:00 AM
So close. I knew it was a Polish sub contractor
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Cavalier on June 25, 2014, 11:21:57 AM
So who is our keeper for this season then, now that Lewis King is no longer on our team sheet.  What has happened to him?
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on June 25, 2014, 11:43:47 AM
Vince was at pre-season training last night.
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Post by: Carl Newell on June 25, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Hope Vince stays personally. Has huge potential. Need to bring several new players in now though with Miller and King seemingly gone.
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Post by: green hats mate on June 25, 2014, 12:45:27 PM
Dowie now removed from teamsheet .
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Carl Newell on June 25, 2014, 12:56:23 PM
Only 10 players now listed:
Vince
Marshall
Garner
Pidge
Steer
Mills
McGhee
Newsham
Southwell
Galinski

Need to bring in some top quality replacements over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Artemis on June 27, 2014, 07:55:49 AM
Lewis King has now left Boston Utd.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Dipdodah on June 27, 2014, 08:13:24 AM
Oh dear, I liked him, thought he was a good keeper.  I cannot see why we are losing players, any thoughts? >:(
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Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on June 27, 2014, 08:17:31 AM
Be interested to know why he has gone, seemed an asset and was up for the fight.  Hope it's not another one where someone has come in and offered more to play for a village team.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: C.B. on June 27, 2014, 10:24:22 AM
Where has he gone to...anyone know?
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: dt woodhall on June 27, 2014, 10:44:09 AM
I am not too sorry to see King go, fitness was always a worry. We need a tall commanding keeper. Not sure what the position is with Vince. No doubt DG will eventually tell us something worthwhile.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Dipdodah on June 27, 2014, 11:50:13 AM
To me Vince is not up to it.  Second choice at the moment until he gets more experience.  We need an ex league keeper to point him in the right direction.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: green hats mate on June 27, 2014, 12:31:12 PM
To me Vince is not up to it.  Second choice at the moment until he gets more experience.  We need an ex league keeper to point him in the right direction.

Agree Dip .
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Post by: Tomgraves on June 27, 2014, 01:07:36 PM
Me personally I feel that King has had a fall out with Dennis, as he had agreed a contract with us when the retained list was annouced.

Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: B Grimes on June 27, 2014, 01:58:32 PM
Something not quite right here. For those more at home with social media has he given any clues as to why he's gone? Vince is a solid keeper and if we were forced to would be happy for him to start the season off, but I think the league will be harder this year and I do feel we need a more experienced custodian. That apart, normally when pre season starts there are 25 plus players half of which you end up getting rid of and then selectively add to the half left. The worry is we're at the end of June, pre season matches just around the corner and we would struggle to put on a five a side match. We lost three players to Tamworth,4 or 5 are not wanted, rumours suggest if we had a match tomorrow Newsh couldn't play because of his knee and now the goalkeeper has disappeared and I think am right here, only two Pidge and Garner have signed contracts. Not ideal is it?
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on June 27, 2014, 03:23:01 PM
Me personally I feel that King has had a fall out with Dennis, as he had agreed a contract with us when the retained list was annouced.


Depends whether he was offered a contract, or just 'terms'.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Bostonshire on June 27, 2014, 03:54:11 PM
Me personally I feel that King has had a fall out with Dennis, as he had agreed a contract with us when the retained list was annouced.


Depends whether he was offered a contract, or just 'terms'.

Terms. no contract offer. Same as most the team. Starting to get a bit uneasy about all this as talk from a few players it seems only 3 or 4 are offered contract i just feel that a team core 5-6 should be on deals
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: womble on June 27, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
According to article on the Target website he wasn't offered a permanent contract so is looking elsewhere as he wants security. Apparently he has had offers from other clubs in Conference North and been offered a trial at a Conference Premier club. Pre-season is all about finding players that will add to the team so let's not panic yet.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: dt woodhall on June 28, 2014, 03:08:41 PM
dont worry. we only have three players signed on, but hey we look forward to the golf day!!!!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: B Grimes on June 29, 2014, 07:45:55 AM
Am not talking about any new players but can't understand why DG wouldn't get the likes of steer and Mcghee, players he now knows everything about on contract. Newsh not being offered one is the worry for me as it can only be because of his knee and if he isn't fit and Miller going that's fifty goals we have to find. Anyone got updates on " that knee"?
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: green hats mate on June 29, 2014, 01:32:29 PM
It,s just another typical patter pre-season with a new twist .   This time last year we had Miller already signed up which was refreshing as it gave us scope to come on patter and declare him not good enough .
This time last year  patter fans could not understand why we could not compete with Brackley ,  who have they signed this season ?
Lets sit back and enjoy "rich"  N Con teams competing to steal money bags NFU striker .
The only thing that is certain any new signing when assessed on patter may be restricted by any of the following ,  too light , too fat , slow , donkey , too young , too old , plus other various shortcomings .

Last seasons run-in which produced play-off form contained only 4/5 players that were signed pre-season , and lets not forget we saw more goals and better football than we have for years .
KEEP CALM Den ,  don,t rush the signings !!!!!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Dipdodah on June 29, 2014, 02:25:39 PM
It,s just another typical patter pre-season with a new twist .   This time last year we had Miller already signed up which was refreshing as it gave us scope to come on patter and declare him not good enough .
This time last year  patter fans could not understand why we could not compete with Brackley ,  who have they signed this season ?
Lets sit back and enjoy "rich"  N Con teams competing to steal money bags NFU striker .
The only thing that is certain any new signing when assessed on patter may be restricted by any of the following ,  too light , too fat , slow , donkey , too young , too old , plus other various shortcomings .

Last seasons run-in which produced play-off form contained only 4/5 players that were signed pre-season , and lets not forget we saw more goals and better football than we have for years .
KEEP CALM Den ,  don,t rush the signings !!!!!


Get those knees out GHM and show Newsh what a pair should look like.  Looks like you and me up front then. ;) ;)
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: oxo on June 29, 2014, 02:26:59 PM
Am not talking about any new players but can't understand why DG wouldn't get the likes of steer and Mcghee, players he now knows everything about on contract. Newsh not being offered one is the worry for me as it can only be because of his knee and if he isn't fit and Miller going that's fifty goals we have to find. Anyone got updates on " that knee"?



Managed to have half an hour at training on Thursday and to be honest didn't know half of them obviously trialists. Regarding Newshams knee, he did a few laps around the Cranwell sports field followed by work with the physio so although not there yet is at least he's able to run. Although DG seems to be implementing plan B ie attempting to sign some on loan from our pre season opponents I do wonder if we will have a team to face them.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: green hats mate on June 29, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
It,s just another typical patter pre-season with a new twist .   This time last year we had Miller already signed up which was refreshing as it gave us scope to come on patter and declare him not good enough .
This time last year  patter fans could not understand why we could not compete with Brackley ,  who have they signed this season ?
Lets sit back and enjoy "rich"  N Con teams competing to steal money bags NFU striker .
The only thing that is certain any new signing when assessed on patter may be restricted by any of the following ,  too light , too fat , slow , donkey , too young , too old , plus other various shortcomings .

Last seasons run-in which produced play-off form contained only 4/5 players that were signed pre-season , and lets not forget we saw more goals and better football than we have for years .
KEEP CALM Den ,  don,t rush the signings !!!!!


Get those knees out GHM and show Newsh what a pair should look like.  Looks like you and me up front then. ;) ;)

Sorry Dip already been to specsavers and will continue with my mate to provide goal line technology at Jakemans .   If you have any shaving foam past its sell-by date bring it along for the ref  instead of throwing it in the Welland  :P
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on June 29, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
Am not talking about any new players but can't understand why DG wouldn't get the likes of steer and Mcghee, players he now knows everything about on contract. Newsh not being offered one is the worry for me as it can only be because of his knee and if he isn't fit and Miller going that's fifty goals we have to find. Anyone got updates on " that knee"?



Managed to have half an hour at training on Thursday and to be honest didn't know half of them obviously trialists. Regarding Newshams knee, he did a few laps around the Cranwell sports field followed by work with the physio so although not there yet is at least he's able to run. Although DG seems to be implementing plan B ie attempting to sign some on loan from our pre season opponents I do wonder if we will have a team to face them.

Isn't there normally someone taking photographs at the first training session? I know in seasons past they've ended up on the website, and we've all had a go at working out who they were.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Shauneyg on June 29, 2014, 04:53:31 PM
Yes David Shipman took a few snaps of the first session and you can see them on his Facebook page..the players from last season who were listed as retained were pictured.  The only worry for me is we only have around 11 players committed and that includes newsh. Not sure on the futures of dowie or vince. Certainly need another 5 or 6 new signings..
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: truffleshuffle on June 29, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
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Who is in the background?

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New physio?

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Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: B Grimes on June 29, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
Who is the fella in yellow, doesn't seem to be that mobile! :D

Am sorry GHM, and hopefully not sounding too negative, we have lost 6,7 players. For a variety of reasons none of the four DG was publicly suggesting were going to sign have done so, the keeper has left because he didn't receive a contract and the boss is already talking about taking loan players as a chosen rather than needed policy none of whom, as yet he has even seen and more, without knowing if their club would even release them anyway. Forget that so many teams appear to have done the majority of their recruitment, this time last year regardless of their ultimate worth to the team (indeed most early arrivals left) we had many new additions, and just off the top of my head, Pidge, Garner, Galinski, Sensara, Bore, Miller to name but some who supplemented at least 6,7 already on contract. Up to now, with training under way we have but one new player joined and just two (though hugely important) on contracts, and our scoring legend still very worryingly jogging around on a dodgy knee.

As you say GHM, by all means take all the time you need DG,  just bloody hurry up about things!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on June 29, 2014, 06:22:55 PM
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Who is in the background?


Dayle Southwell?

Who is the one playing head tennis with Marshall though, fourth photo down?
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Shauneyg on June 29, 2014, 06:37:21 PM
Dayle southwell
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: leicester pilgrim on June 29, 2014, 07:34:56 PM
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Who is in the background?

I'm not 100% sure, but it looks a bit like Ollie Price, youth team defender who was unused sub a couple of times in away matches last year.

Was the training session solely for first team players and triallists?

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Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: green hats mate on June 29, 2014, 09:52:29 PM
Who is the fella in yellow, doesn't seem to be that mobile! :D

Am sorry GHM, and hopefully not sounding too negative, we have lost 6,7 players. For a variety of reasons none of the four DG was publicly suggesting were going to sign have done so, the keeper has left because he didn't receive a contract and the boss is already talking about taking loan players as a chosen rather than needed policy none of whom, as yet he has even seen and more, without knowing if their club would even release them anyway. Forget that so many teams appear to have done the majority of their recruitment, this time last year regardless of their ultimate worth to the team (indeed most early arrivals left) we had many new additions, and just off the top of my head, Pidge, Garner, Galinski, Sensara, Bore, Miller to name but some who supplemented at least 6,7 already on contract. Up to now, with training under way we have but one new player joined and just two (though hugely important) on contracts, and our scoring legend still very worryingly jogging around on a dodgy knee.

As you say GHM, by all means take all the time you need DG,  just bloody hurry up about things!

Of the 6/7 players who left 4 were surplus to requirements .    Come tuesday morning many pro,s will realise they have to consider their options due to the fact that they will not know where or when their next wage packet is  coming from .   Get the freezer filled with Danish  GB and sit back , relax, and look forward to another enjoyable season .
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: green hats mate on June 29, 2014, 10:21:06 PM
Best of luck to Martin King at Stalybridge .
I am sure one of my pals on here will find it ironic that 2 NFU players on twitter are accussing team- mate A Wilson of leaving the club for the "wrong reasons "  .  A reputed £900 week offer from Barrow !!!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: B Grimes on June 30, 2014, 11:55:03 AM
Who is the fella in yellow, doesn't seem to be that mobile! :D

Am sorry GHM, and hopefully not sounding too negative, we have lost 6,7 players. For a variety of reasons none of the four DG was publicly suggesting were going to sign have done so, the keeper has left because he didn't receive a contract and the boss is already talking about taking loan players as a chosen rather than needed policy none of whom, as yet he has even seen and more, without knowing if their club would even release them anyway. Forget that so many teams appear to have done the majority of their recruitment, this time last year regardless of their ultimate worth to the team (indeed most early arrivals left) we had many new additions, and just off the top of my head, Pidge, Garner, Galinski, Sensara, Bore, Miller to name but some who supplemented at least 6,7 already on contract. Up to now, with training under way we have but one new player joined and just two (though hugely important) on contracts, and our scoring legend still very worryingly jogging around on a dodgy knee.

As you say GHM, by all means take all the time you need DG,  just bloody hurry up about things!

Of the 6/7 players who left 4 were surplus to requirements .    Come tuesday morning many pro,s will realise they have to consider their options due to the fact that they will not know where or when their next wage packet is  coming from .   Get the freezer filled with Danish  GB and sit back , relax, and look forward to another enjoyable season .

Well stocked up mate, Job lot from the wholesalers every summer. Back to your point, yes, many early arrivals as I previously agreed ended up as surplus as I am sure will be the case this year, but in order to identify those surplus from those who aren't you have to have a nucleus from which to make that call from, at the moment we don't. I am not a negative person, maybe just a little worrier, but my concern is that loanees apart I don't think we signed a player last year that didn't have, however tenuous, some link with either Histon or St Neots and therein lies the route of the problem in my head that at the moment simply wont go away. At this level contacts mean everything and like many I assumed, well hoped anyway that come the first training session there would, as last year at least be half a dozen new players wanting to make an impression!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Carl Newell on July 12, 2014, 10:07:28 PM
Plenty of options up front

Miller (looking much more likely now)
Newsham
Southwell
McGhee (played the last few games up front and did ok)
Sanders
Garner (does ok when asked to play up front and knows where the back of the net is)

Midfield is where we need to strengthen so far the team looks a bit like this for me:

King

Mills
Garner
Pidge
Steer

McGhee
???
???
???

Newsham
Miller (fingers crossed)

Subs
Southwell
Marshall
Galinski
GK???
???

So for me aslong as all the above sign up as expected then we just need to sign about 4 midfielders!


Reviewing my post a few weeks ago personally I am happy with how things are progressing. Didn't include Vince or Dowie at the time as I thought both would be elsewhere by now.

Four weeks till the start of the season and probably only need a couple more additions.

Vince (Head tells me this is one position we really need an experienced player, heart tells me Vince is the man for the job so I will class this one as covered)

Mills
Garner
Pidge
Steer

McGhee
Dowie
Barlow
???

Newsh
???

Subs:

Marshall
Galinski
Southwell
Felix
Hewitt

The diamond shape we played towards the end of last season worked well and I expect it to be the shape used this season. Dowie in front of the back four, McGee and Barlow wide and still need a Simon Weatherstone type to play behind the front two. If we don't find one yet maybe Felix could play wide right and McGee behind the forwards. Still need a Miller type up front in my opinion.

So two or three still to bring in for the gaffer in the next few weeks hopefully. If we are still after an experienced GK they don't come any more experienced than Bazza (probably going to get shot down for this one) he still lives in Boston, has obviously still got what it takes as he won promotion to the Conf Prem last season and is currently a free agent. His experience would benefit Vince and Hewitt and would probably be interested in taking up an player/coach role at the club and used as back - up keeper for the next couple of years alternatively he may want another year someone as the no1. As for another forward Margettes on loan from Hull could be a good shout? Proved himself with Trinity last year. Also Agnew was a class act last year, hopefully there is a chance we could see him back again although he may fell he has done his time on loan and be pushing for the first team at Sunderland.

May be wrong in saying we will get 2/3 in as we also have Sanders, Smythe and also soon Reynolds to add to those I have mentioned.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: green hats mate on July 12, 2014, 11:08:09 PM
Plenty of options up front

Miller (looking much more likely now)
Newsham
Southwell
McGhee (played the last few games up front and did ok)
Sanders
Garner (does ok when asked to play up front and knows where the back of the net is)

Midfield is where we need to strengthen so far the team looks a bit like this for me:

King

Mills
Garner
Pidge
Steer

McGhee
???
???
???

Newsham
Miller (fingers crossed)

Subs
Southwell
Marshall
Galinski
GK???
???

So for me aslong as all the above sign up as expected then we just need to sign about 4 midfielders!


Reviewing my post a few weeks ago personally I am happy with how things are progressing. Didn't include Vince or Dowie at the time as I thought both would be elsewhere by now.

Four weeks till the start of the season and probably only need a couple more additions.

Vince (Head tells me this is one position we really need an experienced player, heart tells me Vince is the man for the job so I will class this one as covered)

Mills
Garner
Pidge
Steer

McGhee
Dowie
Barlow
???

Newsh
???

Subs:

Marshall
Galinski
Southwell
Felix
Hewitt

The diamond shape we played towards the end of last season worked well and I expect it to be the shape used this season. Dowie in front of the back four, McGee and Barlow wide and still need a Simon Weatherstone type to play behind the front two. If we don't find one yet maybe Felix could play wide right and McGee behind the forwards. Still need a Miller type up front in my opinion.

So two or three still to bring in for the gaffer in the next few weeks hopefully. If we are still after an experienced GK they don't come any more experienced than Bazza (probably going to get shot down for this one) he still lives in Boston, has obviously still got what it takes as he won promotion to the Conf Prem last season and is currently a free agent. His experience would benefit Vince and Hewitt and would probably be interested in taking up an player/coach role at the club and used as back - up keeper for the next couple of years alternatively he may want another year someone as the no1. As for another forward Margettes on loan from Hull could be a good shout? Proved himself with Trinity last year. Also Agnew was a class act last year, hopefully there is a chance we could see him back again although he may fell he has done his time on loan and be pushing for the first team at Sunderland.

May be wrong in saying we will get 2/3 in as we also have Sanders, Smythe and also soon Reynolds to add to those I have mentioned.

I assume you did not see todays game Carl .  Judging what DG said at the forum and what was seen today the team will look much like this ...
   Vince

  Mills
  Pidge
  Reynolds
  Steer

  Mcghee
  Dowie
  Marshall
  Barlow (assumming he ups his game before Aug 9 )
                Felix on todays game will be genuine competition for a mid-field place .

  Southwell
  Garner.

 
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Shauneyg on July 13, 2014, 08:13:43 AM
I think your about right with that team GHM. On today's showing I think garns and southwell worked well and will only get better with more game time add newsh to that and it looks strong but maybe a young lad on loan could be an option. Plenty of positives from yesterday that's for sure..
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Keynsham Pilgrim on July 13, 2014, 09:55:03 AM
I say this having not attended yesterday's game but I don't think that 1 half of a friendly against a bunch of kids and an disinterested pro makes a difference.  Garner is  fine as an option for the last 15 mins when you need a goal and you have to resort to plan C but if you have serious ambitions of a top 5 finish then he is not the answer.

He would be a waste of money and a contract if played that way and not at centre half where he is one of the best in the league. If this is really our best option for a centre forward then for the first time I have serious reservations about the recruitment this summer and the upcoming season. If it is not, then I am a lot more optimistic.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: oxo on July 13, 2014, 10:35:00 AM
I agree that Garners position is back four but I think your missing the point of why he played up front for 45 minutes. Two new center backs needed to show what they can do ( and believe me they did very well) and as you say we know what Garner can do at the back, by the way Garner did the business up front and it did not encourage long balls, indeed it was the passing game that proved too much for the opposition.
Dennis should be able to put together his final squad from these boys with only the odd addition or two. I would also like to praise Bunny for his hard work and dedication in coaching these lads the right way and getting them very fit. 
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Shauneyg on July 13, 2014, 10:48:59 AM
I think you need to see garns up front before judging him.. He looks fit as a fiddle and works really hard up there and links up well with southwell.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Lee Newell on July 13, 2014, 10:50:41 AM
How did the trialists do?

Adrian Grociak - are we finally getting a Polish player to get the interest of our Polish population? http://www.pzpn.pl/en/zawodnik/show/716215/3650

Karlton Watson - recent Forest young player of the year, since played for Telford and Lincoln


Didn't go yesterday, but good to hear Garns and Southwell played well together but surely Newsh will play when fit?
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: green hats mate on July 13, 2014, 11:16:13 AM
I think you need to see garns up front before judging him.. He looks fit as a fiddle and works really hard up there and links up well with southwell.

Difficult to think how  a players performance and the strength of the opposition can be judged without seeing it !!!!    Shauns summing up is correct .
Bit miffed that many have been calling for a "big"  striker then when it appears maybe DG as spotted the man for the job the player is condemed in the roll .   " Wasted money"?   you will find if Garner does establish himself as a outstanding striker his value would rise .   Anyone  at yesterdays match will tell you DG could perm any 2 from 5 central defenders he had on show and you would have a great pairing .
As OXO stated no hoof balls to Garner ,  he has the finesse along with Southwell to play the ball on the floor .   Remember Danny Davidson and Jason Lee ?  lets continue with the entertaining football that we saw last year and not return to hoofball tactics of Lee and S&H .
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on July 13, 2014, 11:21:36 AM
Adrian Grociak - are we finally getting a Polish player to get the interest of our Polish population? http://www.pzpn.pl/en/zawodnik/show/716215/3650
Doesn't Stefan Galinski already count as Polish?
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Lee Newell on July 13, 2014, 11:37:15 AM
Forgot about Galiniski. He doesn't have much Polish in his accent!
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Shoddys Lane on July 13, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
Adrian Grociak - are we finally getting a Polish player to get the interest of our Polish population? http://www.pzpn.pl/en/zawodnik/show/716215/3650
Doesn't Stefan Galinski already count as Polish?

Not if he was born in the UK.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: oxo on July 13, 2014, 12:11:04 PM
Speaking of judging a performance without actually seeing it, the NLP's report stated that Jason Lees team won comfortably. This is not the first time they have written about BUFC without having a report on the game and and not even doing any research. Have taken this paper for a long time but can't bring myself to believe what is written anymore hence now cancelled.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: lonegunman on July 13, 2014, 12:14:49 PM
I was there yesterday and really enjoyed the game. My stand out player apart from the goal scorers was Steer at left back, i thought he was immense. The winger for Norwich was getting so fed up with him, in the end all he could do was foul and moan to the ref. The lad from Forest who played at center back in the second half looked a good prospect too.
All in all, i thought it was a good showing, they all worked hard and DG will be scratching his head as to who will be moving on.

Check the grassy knoll and the chips and curry.  :bunny
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on July 13, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
Adrian Grociak - are we finally getting a Polish player to get the interest of our Polish population? http://www.pzpn.pl/en/zawodnik/show/716215/3650
Doesn't Stefan Galinski already count as Polish?

Not if he was born in the UK.
So why is he a Polish youth international? Place of birth isn't the sole criterion for nationality.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: lonegunman on July 13, 2014, 12:25:14 PM
May i ask where Adrian Grociak has been mentioned about either playing or at least having a trial?

Check the grassy knoll and the chips and curry. :bunny
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: father Ted on July 13, 2014, 12:54:46 PM
Thanks LN  .. I've bookmarked the page .
 We have a Polish tea lady at hospital who can translate hopefully !
    Thought nationality was Polska ..not Polskie which seams a bit slang  ..
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: howmanynames2pick on July 13, 2014, 02:18:59 PM
Polski is male
Polska is female
Apparently :)
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Shauneyg on July 13, 2014, 02:32:01 PM
Grociak played right back second half and is certainly not as good as zak mills so can't see him staying to be honest,karlton watson was impressive in the first half and Thompson,greene and hodge certainly worth another look.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: lonegunman on July 13, 2014, 02:34:27 PM
Having read the report i now know where he played.  :)

Check the grassy knoll and the chips and curry.  :bunny
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: B Grimes on July 13, 2014, 03:13:24 PM
Like a couple of others the thought that DG can or would seriously consider playing SG up front as a main line tactic astounds and scares me. Someone mentioned finesse earlier and whilst Garner has many fortes...finesse is not one of them and please don't cite the goal as evidence that he is either. Southwell took his goal well tho and him and Newsh  would be the answer but if one of them gets injured we may be in deep trouble. Steer and McGhee looked good, as did all the defenders but you can't judge the team by a game against academy youngsters. Spalding I feel will pro ide a much sterner test and will reserve any further  judgement till then.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: leicester pilgrim on July 13, 2014, 03:50:22 PM
Speaking of judging a performance without actually seeing it, the NLP's report stated that Jason Lees team won comfortably. This is not the first time they have written about BUFC without having a report on the game and and not even doing any research. Have taken this paper for a long time but can't bring myself to believe what is written anymore hence now cancelled.

To be fair to the non-league paper, a basic Google search still brings up Jason Lee as our manager - see screen shot below. I don't know who's responsible for updating this part of the internet, but this won't be the fault of the non-league paper. It can't be easy getting a paper out with so much coverage by Sunday morning, and with time pressures as they are I can understand if they do cut the odd corner and use the odd search engine. 9 times out of 10 the paper does still do a very good job.

(http://s27.postimg.org/q3q18aib7/Screenshot.jpg)

My bigger concern with this week's paper is that the fixture dates are wrong. They're showing our county cup match against Gainsborough Trinity as a Tuesday night match. Surely the fixture list is the one area of the paper that they've got more time to get right - they don't have to wait until 5 o'clock on a Saturday to start putting it together.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: green hats mate on July 13, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Like a couple of others the thought that DG can or would seriously consider playing SG up front as a main line tactic astounds and scares me. Someone mentioned finesse earlier and whilst Garner has many fortes...finesse is not one of them and please don't cite the goal as evidence that he is either. Southwell took his goal well tho and him and Newsh  would be the answer but if one of them gets injured we may be in deep trouble. Steer and McGhee looked good, as did all the defenders but you can't judge the team by a game against academy youngsters. Spalding I feel will pro ide a much sterner test and will reserve any further  judgement till then.

When I mentioned finesse BG I meant in comparison to the likes of Lee and Danny Davidson and other "big" strikers some fans would have us sign .
I would think some will come on and remind you of defenders being converted to strikers which astounded and delighed fans , remember Malcolm Macdonald ?   John Charles did not do a bad job at centre-forward and centre half , can,t recall the Italian team he played for .
A bit disrespectful to Norwich with your comment saying Spalding would be a stronger test .  Norwich had decent showing in the u21 prem league last season and I for one were pleased to have a couple of "academy youngsters" on loan from Sunderland who played in the same league .
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on July 13, 2014, 06:43:57 PM
My bigger concern with this week's paper is that the fixture dates are wrong. They're showing our county cup match against Gainsborough Trinity as a Tuesday night match.
It is - Tuesday, 29th July.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on July 13, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
A bit disrespectful to Norwich with your comment saying Spalding would be a stronger test .  Norwich had decent showing in the u21 prem league last season and I for one were pleased to have a couple of "academy youngsters" on loan from Sunderland who played in the same league .
But how many of last season's Norwich U21s, were with the 1st team? You'd assume Norwich will have lost a few players on relegation.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: leicester pilgrim on July 13, 2014, 08:26:27 PM
My bigger concern with this week's paper is that the fixture dates are wrong. They're showing our county cup match against Gainsborough Trinity as a Tuesday night match.
It is - Tuesday, 29th July.

I've written it down as Saturday 2nd August on my calendar. Was the game moved at some point?
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: B Grimes on July 13, 2014, 09:23:30 PM
Like a couple of others the thought that DG can or would seriously consider playing SG up front as a main line tactic astounds and scares me. Someone mentioned finesse earlier and whilst Garner has many fortes...finesse is not one of them and please don't cite the goal as evidence that he is either. Southwell took his goal well tho and him and Newsh  would be the answer but if one of them gets injured we may be in deep trouble. Steer and McGhee looked good, as did all the defenders but you can't judge the team by a game against academy youngsters. Spalding I feel will pro ide a much sterner test and will reserve any further  judgement till then.

When I mentioned finesse BG I meant in comparison to the likes of Lee and Danny Davidson and other "big" strikers some fans would have us sign .
I would think some will come on and remind you of defenders being converted to strikers which astounded and delighed fans , remember Malcolm Macdonald ?   John Charles did not do a bad job at centre-forward and centre half , can,t recall the Italian team he played for .
A bit disrespectful to Norwich with your comment saying Spalding would be a stronger test .  Norwich had decent showing in the u21 prem league last season and I for one were pleased to have a couple of "academy youngsters" on loan from Sunderland who played in the same league .

A 2lb back of danish that Spalding provide a more competitive match GHM. Only an opinion, certainly dont mean any disrespect to any visitors but Personally just don't like matches against youth teams/development squads...tis all
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Carl Newell on July 13, 2014, 10:13:53 PM
Spalding have spent alot of money on experienced players which is common knowledge locally. Looking forward to the Spalding game, expect mostly the same players from Sat to be involved  with the trialists given another chance and always nice to go to a ground where you can have a beer pitch side. Craig hinted on twitter yesterday that Karlton Watson could be signing.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on July 14, 2014, 12:02:52 AM
My bigger concern with this week's paper is that the fixture dates are wrong. They're showing our county cup match against Gainsborough Trinity as a Tuesday night match.
It is - Tuesday, 29th July.

I've written it down as Saturday 2nd August on my calendar. Was the game moved at some point?
That's the next round, at home to Grimsby - if we win.
Title: Re: new keeper?
Post by: green hats mate on July 14, 2014, 01:29:59 PM
Like a couple of others the thought that DG can or would seriously consider playing SG up front as a main line tactic astounds and scares me. Someone mentioned finesse earlier and whilst Garner has many fortes...finesse is not one of them and please don't cite the goal as evidence that he is either. Southwell took his goal well tho and him and Newsh  would be the answer but if one of them gets injured we may be in deep trouble. Steer and McGhee looked good, as did all the defenders but you can't judge the team by a game against academy youngsters. Spalding I feel will pro ide a much sterner test and will reserve any further  judgement till then.

When I mentioned finesse BG I meant in comparison to the likes of Lee and Danny Davidson and other "big" strikers some fans would have us sign .
I would think some will come on and remind you of defenders being converted to strikers which astounded and delighed fans , remember Malcolm Macdonald ?   John Charles did not do a bad job at centre-forward and centre half , can,t recall the Italian team he played for .
A bit disrespectful to Norwich with your comment saying Spalding would be a stronger test .  Norwich had decent showing in the u21 prem league last season and I for one were pleased to have a couple of "academy youngsters" on loan from Sunderland who played in the same league .

A 2lb back of danish that Spalding provide a more competitive match GHM. Only an opinion, certainly dont mean any disrespect to any visitors but Personally just don't like matches against youth teams/development squads...tis all

With all the treats Mrs G is going to get on a Sunday morning this season (thanks to Garners goals ) you cannot afford to give danish away BG  ;)

You may be right about Tues outcome but my thinking says  Norwich should  field a u21 team that can compete better than a EVO(s) team (spalding} ,  if not then that maybe explains there decline .