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The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 28, 2014, 10:17:49 AM

Title: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 28, 2014, 10:17:49 AM
Come on Dave please do the decent thing and pack your bags.

A new Chairman is needed  now.

You have had a good try but need to give way to someone who can deliver and lead the club into a successful future and without any more scandal.

SP  :)
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on April 28, 2014, 11:47:52 AM
Back from holiday Mark? Sounds like you had a nice time. Pick up any nice local wines on your travels?
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Seenbetter on April 28, 2014, 12:47:05 PM
Over to you Tash.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: doc on April 28, 2014, 01:39:51 PM
Ban him!
 :bunny
 :bunny
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: father Ted on April 28, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
 Well lets hope  mgmnt doesnt make the same  mistake of the an early 'anchor' signing getting crocked and loaned out for rest of season .
        Also if Miller leaves (think he will) playing style would need  to compensate .
   I would welcome early signings .. Club may even have to hand out a contract or two . They won't play for peanuts !
                    f T
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: green hats mate on April 28, 2014, 03:11:42 PM
Its the end of the season lets change the subject for a few months ,
lets discuss sub-standard crap houses .
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Tash on April 28, 2014, 04:22:09 PM
Over to you Tash.

Troll
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: bostonwoody on April 28, 2014, 05:21:26 PM
I understand that SP sprang from the loins of a master carpenter.

With one screw he made the biggest craphouse in Lincolnshire
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: BostonGoals on April 28, 2014, 08:21:05 PM
If Dave goes the club dies, I expect that's what SP wants but that's certainly not what the rest of us want.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 28, 2014, 08:39:47 PM
SP... why not create a protest club?
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on April 28, 2014, 09:48:50 PM
Blah
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: petertaylor on April 28, 2014, 10:08:38 PM
It has been a very progressive season. Dennis has brought in some really good players and got us playing some good football again. We have excellent ownership and management. Can't wait for next season. It has been far from mediocre. It has been an outstanding season.  :)
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: kingofnaves on April 28, 2014, 10:43:17 PM
It has been a very progressive season. Dennis has brought in some really good players and got us playing some good football again. We have excellent ownership and management. Can't wait for next season. It has been far from mediocre. It has been an outstanding season.  :)
never knew Cedric was a Pilgrim fan!
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: petertaylor on April 28, 2014, 11:33:24 PM
Ha ha!  Not Cedric mate. I'm a long time supporter just new to social media :)
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: kingofnaves on April 29, 2014, 05:31:41 AM
Welcome Peter  ;)
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Old yellow on April 29, 2014, 07:46:57 AM
Are you touting yourself SP?

Or are you just being Mischievous in order to get your desired reaction?

 
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: dt woodhall on April 29, 2014, 10:01:00 AM
its simple. whenever he posts just do not respond.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: beefpilgrim on April 29, 2014, 10:09:14 AM
Agree with DT Woodhall

Just ignore all posts and let him have a conversation with himself or have a sub forum just for him where all his posts go into it...
That way I dont even have to read the drivel...
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 10:52:15 AM
The original statement had an interrogation mark at the end (they look like this for ease of identification   ?).

So why do you lot of silly parochial little yokels not debate the matter with some amount of intelligence and insight rather than resort to your usual hicky ways or is that you concede that SP is correct and that you just refuse to admit the fact?  :bunny
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 10:57:15 AM
It has been an outstanding season.  :)

If 6th place is deemed outstanding (by yet another DG newbie) there is evidently no real aspiration at the club.

I suggest you all consider long and hard about renewing your season tickets.  :-*
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 29, 2014, 10:59:41 AM
If nobody renews their season ticket, the club will fold. Discuss?
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 12:40:16 PM
Pay as you go.  If the club is successful people will come. If not, they wont.

Handing over you hard earned money for a product you know nothing about is madness.

You don't do this in Asda, so why at a football club?  :-*
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 29, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
At lest you've admitted you know nothing about football.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Ernie100 on April 29, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
If ASDA offered me a bottle of whiskey (with no guarantee of quality) a week for £5 a week for 6 months, so long as I paid in advance, I'd snap their bloody hands off!
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 02:49:26 PM
at that price you would clearly have no real idea if it was indeed real whisky (whiskey if it were Irish).

And if it were it would taste goddamn horrible!  :bunny
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: BostonGoals on April 29, 2014, 04:06:12 PM
Pay as you go.  If the club is successful people will come. If not, they wont.

Handing over you hard earned money for a product you know nothing about is madness.

You don't do this in Asda, so why at a football club?  :-*

If no one buys season tickets the club can't start the season, and if you want to go to games regularly to get away from the wife then it's cheaper all around to get a season ticket.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: green hats mate on April 29, 2014, 04:16:28 PM
Pay as you go.  If the club is successful people will come. If not, they wont.

Handing over you hard earned money for a product you know nothing about is madness.

You don't do this in Asda, so why at a football club?  :-*

If no one buys season tickets the club can't start the season, and if you want to go to games regularly to get away from the wife then it's cheaper all around to get a season ticket.

Its worth the admission just to use the toilets .
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 04:19:37 PM
I guess that all depends on the state of your loo at home GHM.

(Please don't invite me over!)  :)
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 04:23:50 PM
Pay as you go.  If the club is successful people will come. If not, they wont.

Handing over you hard earned money for a product you know nothing about is madness.

You don't do this in Asda, so why at a football club?  :-*

If no one buys season tickets the club can't start the season, and if you want to go to games regularly to get away from the wife then it's cheaper all around to get a season ticket.


Wrong.  Season tickets are sold early or otherwise the club would not be able to pay wages during the close season. Better financial planning and they would not need to sell (effectively discounted tickets) season tickets and could then charge the full fat price on all seats :dan
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Artemis on April 29, 2014, 04:30:39 PM
Pay as you go.  If the club is successful people will come. If not, they wont.

Handing over you hard earned money for a product you know nothing about is madness.

You don't do this in Asda, so why at a football club?  :-*

If no one buys season tickets the club can't start the season, and if you want to go to games regularly to get away from the wife then it's cheaper all around to get a season ticket.


Wrong.  Season tickets are sold early or otherwise the club would not be able to pay wages during the close season. Better financial planning and they would not need to sell (effectively discounted tickets) season tickets and could then charge the full fat price on all seats :dan


Your last statement just proves you know nothing about football finances.
Name one football club who do not offer season tickets?
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 04:38:51 PM
They all do you cretinous lump. That is the point.  If fans decided not to purchase season tickets then it would destabilise a lot of football clubs and John Blackwell would not be able to go to Skeggy on holiday. 

So why purchase a product unseen?  Pay as you go and then if the club performs, people will continue to pay and watch match by match.


The club effectively gets payment by results :dan 
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 04:50:29 PM
They all do you cretinous lump.

Sorry, Ken, but there was widespread support for Scouse Pilgrim being banned a short while back. Why wasn't that implemented? He's now resorting to personal insults aimed at other posters. Surely this has to be the straw that breaks the camel's back?

Ban him now, please.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 05:02:06 PM
oh come come YSP!!    SP has seen a lot lot  worse on here and this is never sanctioned.

(ok I take back the insult to John Blackwell - he probably goes to Cleethorpes)


Are you a member of UKIP or something?  :bunny
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 29, 2014, 05:15:43 PM
Wrong.  Season tickets are sold early or otherwise the club would not be able to pay wages during the close season.

Usually, only non-playing staff are paid during the summer. Playing contracts tend to run between August and April/May, unless they are full time (then it will be July 1st - June 30th). Non-contracts definitely do not get paid in the summer,.

Also, some clubs at lower levels don't offer season tickets - there would be no point, when they'd sell about 30, and it costs 4 quid a game to get in anyway. Not worth the admin!
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Lady GaGa on April 29, 2014, 06:29:10 PM
Ken I am with YSP, on this one that was a way out of order, uncalled, offensive and somewhat venomous remark to make to Artemis!!
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Myleftfoot on April 29, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
I feel 'cretinous lump' is very low level abuse in my vocabulary!  8)
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Seenbetter on April 29, 2014, 10:01:09 PM
It may seem low level abuse to some but if he called me that I would not be very happy. Anyway, perhaps he is just showing off his spelling ability by using such a long word, the word 'lump' can be a bit of a challenge to some.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: petertaylor on April 29, 2014, 10:36:42 PM
I will definitely be renewing my season ticket at Boston United.
It represents good value and demonstrates support. It's called loyalty SP   :-)
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on April 30, 2014, 07:02:09 AM
Any idea when season tickets are likely to become available ? I would be hoping for no increase in last season's price !!

DL
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: B Grimes on April 30, 2014, 07:41:23 AM
It has been a very progressive season. Dennis has brought in some really good players and got us playing some good football again. We have excellent ownership and management. Can't wait for next season. It has been far from mediocre. It has been an outstanding season.  :)

It has most certainly been a progressive season Peter, wouldn't argue with that, but then you add, far from mediocre it's been outstanding, which playing DA, it most certainly hasn't, you cant surely have it both ways?
At home we have been really consistent, but missed out on the play offs due to the at times quite awful away displays and results, which I can almost guarantee (without checking I grant you  :D) were actually worse than last year when most would agree we had a very poor season. I rather think had we won as many away games as we did even last season we would have been in the play offs. So probably not quite as rosy as you are suggesting Peter, but for next season, now Pidge has signed I am hopeful others that we all want to see stay will now follow his lead
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: B Grimes on April 30, 2014, 08:04:26 AM
Pay as you go.  If the club is successful people will come. If not, they wont.

Handing over you hard earned money for a product you know nothing about is madness.

You don't do this in Asda, so why at a football club?  :-*

If no one buys season tickets the club can't start the season, and if you want to go to games regularly to get away from the wife then it's cheaper all around to get a season ticket.


Wrong.  Season tickets are sold early or otherwise the club would not be able to pay wages during the close season. Better financial planning and they would not need to sell (effectively discounted tickets) season tickets and could then charge the full fat price on all seats :dan

Whilst you are obviously an intelligent guy SP, some of your comments show a high degree of ignorance. Like most team sports, but with football supporters particularly they don't buy or re-new season tickets because of the product that may be available they do so out of allegiance and loyalty which whilst being slightly illogical to people of your ilk and bias is in essence what keeps football so special. It's also called supply and demand, if there was no call for season tickets, clubs wouldn't issue them, but because there is it's nearly all clubs at our level and even below do so. Even if there was a product as you describe then it would be the Conference North not our team who just happen to play in it the support of which most give regardless for the reasons mentioned above.
Yes in turn it can obviously help cash flow, but rent apart, with outgoings at a minimum during close season, do you not think as a club run on reasonably sound fiscal principles that money would not be out aside to meet such 'summer' outgoings?
Simply for suggesting they are issued to help pay for players wages during this period also demonstrates and not for the first time an incredulous degree of 'football' ignorance on your part sir, a total lack of understanding on how clubs like ours run. If we have a single player (even Pidge whose signing is fantastic news for the club btw) who will be on a 52 week contract I would be astonished it simply doesn't happen like that. His contract like 99% of all part time football contracts will begin, not even when training starts but when the first league game does 
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: B Grimes on April 30, 2014, 08:14:34 AM
La stly on the point of season tickets, FC United probably the biggest supported club outside the Conf prem, actually had a system last year where supporters paid what they could afford for their season tickets!
Obviously they inserted a financial caveat where a 'minimum' price was attached but it was well below the normal tariff, and staggeringly after the exercise finished not only had they sold well over a thousand season tickets,taking the average price paid, it demonstrated that far from taking the piss, which a cynic like you would probably  suggest would happen, the supporters across the board had actually paid collectively more than they would have done if the prices had remained set.
That's what NL football is about, what makes it so special, and why as a 'product' hundreds of thousands watch it live week in week out. Have a look at their crowd at the play off's last night and you will see what the 'product' means to them and though for the third year in a row they missed out on joining the conf north I guarantee one thing it will most certainly not deter their wonderful fans from renewing their season tickets next year
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Tash on April 30, 2014, 10:30:51 AM
I wonder why the NHS do a season ticket for prescriptions, mind you they've got that many pen pushers they need to find them something to administer.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 30, 2014, 10:40:48 AM
It may seem low level abuse to some but if he called me that I would not be very happy. Anyway, perhaps he is just showing off his spelling ability by using such a long word, the word 'lump' can be a bit of a challenge to some.


Cretinous lump!  :bunny
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 30, 2014, 10:50:14 AM
Whilst you are obviously an intelligent guy SP, some of your comments show a high degree of ignorance. Like most team sports, but with football supporters particularly they don't buy or re-new season tickets because of the product that may be available they do so out of allegiance and loyalty which whilst being slightly illogical to people of your ilk and bias is in essence what keeps football so special.

That is total tosh Mr Grimes.  People buy season tickets because they intend to go to most home matches and it is a lot cheaper (and when they don't go they can give them to a friend to use).  Loyalty!? Tish and pish to you good sir!

It's also called supply and demand, if there was no call for season tickets, clubs wouldn't issue them, but because there is it's nearly all clubs at our level and even below do so. Even if there was a product as you describe then it would be the Conference North not our team who just happen to play in it the support of which most give regardless for the reasons mentioned above.
Yes in turn it can obviously help cash flow, but rent apart, with outgoings at a minimum during close season, do you not think as a club run on reasonably sound fiscal principles that money would not be out aside to meet such 'summer' outgoings?

Money set aside? Sound fiscal principles?! Dave has been subsidising the club form the start by lending it money each year. Without this it would be effectively trading while insolvent.  

Simply for suggesting they are issued to help pay for players wages during this period also demonstrates and not for the first time an incredulous degree of 'football' ignorance on your part sir, a total lack of understanding on how clubs like ours run. If we have a single player (even Pidge whose signing is fantastic news for the club btw) who will be on a 52 week contract I would be astonished it simply doesn't happen like that. His contract like 99% of all part time football contracts will begin, not even when training starts but when the first league game does.

Where did SP state "players' wages" he said "pay wages".  Surely Mr Blackwell, and Mr Singleton get paid in the summertime?   There are still business rates to pay or do they go on holiday too?  :bunny
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 30, 2014, 10:56:38 AM
Any idea when season tickets are likely to become available ? I would be hoping for no increase in last season's price !!

DL


You should be haggling for a significant discount Mr Lambert  :bunny
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 30, 2014, 11:15:56 AM
Ken I am with YSP, on this one that was a way out of order, uncalled, offensive and somewhat venomous remark to make to Artemis!!

are you his mummy?  Grandma?   :dan
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Seenbetter on April 30, 2014, 11:48:06 AM
I'm impressed SP, spelt lump correctly twice. Whatever your reasons for being such a tosser on here you really are in need of some counselling, you show all the attributes of a real *ucking idiot. That's the last comment/reaction you draw from me.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 30, 2014, 01:41:41 PM
I'm impressed SP, spelt lump correctly twice. Whatever your reasons for being such a tosser on here you really are in need of some counselling, you show all the attributes of a real *ucking idiot. That's the last comment/reaction you draw from me.

SP is very pleased you took his latest insult so well SB!

 Have a very nice day  :-*
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on April 30, 2014, 03:36:02 PM
It represents good value and demonstrates support.


Or from the alternative SP viewpoint it demonstrates that you have more money than sense Mr Taylor  :bunny
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Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 30, 2014, 04:09:11 PM
So do you... if you have a penny to your name.
Title: Re: Season over and still mediocrity.....time for the man at the top to go?
Post by: petertaylor on May 01, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
You might be right SP haha! I might buy 2 just in case you fancy watching a game.
You would be welcome Mark :)