Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: noughtyforties on January 12, 2014, 12:49:43 PM
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to admit to being a Gainsborough Trinity player......
http://www.lincolnshireecho.co.uk/Gainsborough-Trinity-s-Liam-Davis-openly-gay/story-20431222-detail/story.html?plok
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On another note, he will be suspended against us.
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I don't reckon much to his maths (if 5% of the total population are gay, then 5% of men are gay surely?) but fair play to him for coming out whilst still playing. The few that I'm aware to have done so have waited to retire first I think...
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I don't reckon much to his maths (if 5% of the total population are gay, then 5% of men are gay surely?) but fair play to him for coming out whilst still playing. The few that I'm aware to have done so have waited to retire first I think...
I haven't read the article but total population includes both males and females.
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But simple maths shows that a percentage stays the same, no matter what the sample size. If 5% of the population have a certain preference, then if you're only counting men, it's still 5% of men.
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Sort it out JoshB.........or Ken!
;)
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Come on, you're the one moaning about the rock solid O-Levels you did back in the day and got some sort of grade in- surely you can work it out!
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U in maths........ ::) :-\
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As long as the condition applies equally to all parties then the percentage applies equally....
How many people have a nose - 100%
How many men have a nose - 100%
How many people have testicles - 50%
How many men have testicles - 100%
qed.
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Mutual exclusivity.
My cat has 4 legs.
Horses have 4 legs.
My cat is a horse.
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See also Simpson's paradox.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson%27s_paradox
The baseball example is a nice one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson%27s_paradox#Batting_averages
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I may be confused by the numbers quoted but it seems to me that if the population of a fictitious country is 10,000,000 women and 7,000,000 men then to say 5% of the population of the country is gay (referring to men only) is an incorrect statement. 5% of the Male population is gay would be the exact way of putting it. Surely you can only use the terms 50% or 100% if the population is made up of equal numbers of males and females, unless of course some of the men have been castrated in which case that would throw the calculations into disarray and would need re thinking.
Must go now, need to lay down in a darkened room.
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If you want to read more about Liam Davies there is a great feature in The Independent today, rivalries aside good luck to the guy. We even get a mention.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/out-and-still-playing-at-last-a-gay-footballer-speaks-9057372.html
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from being a pop at Gboro this has become the most intellectual post ever seen on here....wheres Miele???
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If you want to read more about Liam Davies there is a great feature in The Independent today, rivalries aside good luck to the guy. We even get a mention.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/out-and-still-playing-at-last-a-gay-footballer-speaks-9057372.html
That's a mystifying mention - the suggestion seems to be that he's expecting a barrage of abuse from Boston fans because of what's been said on forums.
Can anyone point me to this homophobic abuse written by Boston fans online?
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I dont think anyone is expecting any abuse from the Boston fans.
The only abuse I have seen is from mindless idiots who have no interest in football or the matter of homosexuals in the game and the impact coming out may have.
I expect he will be left allone most places he goes, however there are always places like Altrincham who have mindless idiots intent on stirring things up.
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Well, yes, that’s what I was thinking. We have one or two thickos but all the glory fans have buggered off back to Gillette Soccer Saturday years ago. I’d be very surprised indeed if anyone abused him. I’m not sure anyone really cares, which, actually, I think is a good thing. Non-league football is a different world, and by different world I mean it’s more like the REAL world.
I saw a tweet from Marc at the Echo earlier to Ian Herbert disagreeing with a point in his article, saying that non-league players are more likely to be accepting of gay players as they have lives and jobs outside of football and are more rounded individuals. I think that’s absolutely true, and it also applies to the fans.
Non-league supporters, in my experience at least, tend not to be like some of the more rabid obsessives you find up higher up the pyramid, the narrow-minded kind who live in a little myopic bubble and detest anything and everything that exists outside of it. They will no doubt greet the first professional gay player with spittle-flecked vitriol. But, odd idiot aside, I don’t think Liam has too much to worry about.
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Pretty much spot on Pete.......
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I would sooner him play for us than against us that's for sure.
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Well at Bradford when Lewis King was rolling around on the ground following a challenge from one of their forwards (for which the forward got booked) an elderly local standing next to me shouted out "Get up yer big pink fairy!"
(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/brad19.jpg)
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Well at Bradford when Lewis King was rolling around on the ground following a challenge from one of their forwards (for which the forward got booked) an elderly local standing next to me shouted out "Get up yer big pink fairy!"
(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/brad19.jpg)
Exactly what you would expect from an old fart Ken ;)
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Well at Bradford when Lewis King was rolling around on the ground following a challenge from one of their forwards (for which the forward got booked) an elderly local standing next to me shouted out "Get up yer big pink fairy!"
(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/brad19.jpg)
ken what happened to Timms pink shirt sponsorship post?
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ken what happened to Timms pink shirt sponsorship post?
It's still here - it's just not sticky any more so it's not at the top.
http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4641.0 (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4641.0)
Craig tells me the Patter sponsorship of Timms shirt will just be shifted to Lewis King's shirt.
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ken what happened to Timms pink shirt sponsorship post?
It's still here - it's just not sticky any more so it's not at the top.
http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4641.0 (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4641.0)
Craig tells me the Patter sponsorship of Timms shirt will just be shifted to Lewis King's shirt.
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Slightly off topic but does anyone know if Timms is still with us?
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http://www.bostonunited.co.uk/s/the-team-24809.html
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I nearly wrote to the club when the first report went public to suggest they versed the stewards before the game at our place so we don't end up back in the press for all the wrong reasons. I guessed the story would grow and it just needs one clown to put us right back in the forefront with a press begging for a negative story off the back of this.
I loads of respect for him in doing that interview, I've met Dav quite a few times and he seems a genuine down to earth lad that loves his football. Didn't know until the game at their place that he played for Trinity, so the only abuse he'll get from me next time I see him is for his poor choice of team.
"Eh Dav I didn't know that you were.....
....playing for that tripe"
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Putting all local rivalries to the side for a moment, you have to say fair play to the lad. It's taken one heck of a lot of courage to do what he's done and will hopefully pave the way for other players to feel able to come out. Football, and the world in general, has come a long way since the dark days when Justin Fashanu's career was left in tatters.
I would imagine their will be plenty of interest in how fans react to this in the coming weeks and months. I hope he is extended a decent reception when Gainsborough visit us.
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Whatever your personal feelings are on this subject you have to admire him having the guts to make it public.
I think we should all get behind him. (Sorry).
Best of luck to the guy.