Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Pilgrim86 on October 23, 2013, 02:50:59 PM
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Set to leave the club?
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transfer listed so we are led to believe !
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Very disappointing if true.
A clash of personalities?
Or poor management?
If we get a fee and add on's then his time here could be deemed as success, otherwise the episode only raises questions.
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or poor trainer with a big ego?
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Any talk of a replacement before saturday? Or is it Vince into the firing line
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what is DG doing? Ben F,Pete Bore,Timms ? im lost for words i was a big DG fan up to this point think the pressure has got to him. To put our best keeper we have had at this club since Mckeown on the transfer list at this stage of the season is beyond belief...
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Interesting so the two 'big' signings of the summer - Timms and Gary Mills - have not worked out at all well. Ego issues? Bad management? The truth will out.
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before making judgements, lets just see how things unfold between now and saturday ! no disrespect to young vince but am not sure he is up to conference north standard yet, so we need someone in. and at this point in the season all the good keepers are tied up.
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Has bore left as well?
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Apparently Bore has gone too, last night.
Yeah do we now have a Sub keeper... bloody hell, I might have to don the gloves at this rate! Massive ask to throw Vince in there against Walshaw, Reeves and the likes
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Bore has been brilliant, something's gone wrong behind the scenes somewhere, if we don't find suitable replacements then were in trouble
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Timms is a massive loss if true, bore not so much
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Always rated bore, we need answers from the boss
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A happy squad will most likely bring in the results.
We have had that for the most part - but I wonder if what happened at Ilkeston - was starting to appear at Boston United.
Watching on Saturday followed by a sudden departure from the ground I fear that the disruptive element was resurfacing and no player is bigger than the Club he plays for.
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Bore hasn't been released, although Boston United are looking to move him out on loan. Fairclough is off the Grantham on loan.
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I think we need to get behind him on sat i talked to him today and it was dg who slapped a transfer on him and he says he dont wanna leave obviously clash of egos his and dg bad move by dg if vince is in goal on sat then its football suicide against a team who put 13 past us in 3 games last season
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Footballs a strange game, we can't change what's happend, hopefully it all works out not just for the club but for the players that met be on there way
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after brackley I am not surprised DG just seemed to put the blame on TIMMS instead of admitting we were second best all over.
on saterday TIMMS was in complete control of his back line until DG decided to alter things as he new best.
DG also messed BORE about in both matches.
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Always a gamble signing Timms , good that DG is showing who is boss otherwise things soon go pear shape. If we revert to 4-4-2 Fairclough will have little chance to claim a start , in truth is he good enough if we wish to be a top five side ?
Only drawback if Bore goes is it will limit mid-field options with Marshall moving to full back. On balance a good move as moving Marshall will strengthen full back weakness .
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after brackley I am not surprised DG just seemed to put the blame on TIMMS instead of admitting we were second best all over.
on saterday TIMMS was in complete control of his back line until DG decided to alter things as he new best.
DG also messed BORE about in both matches.
Rather belatedly DG realised on Saturday that Bore was our weakness , if he had realised at half-time we may well have got three points .
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Dennis Greene on placing Ashley Timms on the transfer list
Read more: http://www.bostontarget.co.uk/Dennis-Greene-letting-placing-Ashley-Timms/story-19975700-detail/story.html?ffff#ixzz2iZ3qH8m4
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if MARSHALL go's r/ fullback then its back to the dark days of last season.
I am sorry but he just aint goodenough there, I think were safe to say DG no's that >:(
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Dont agree that Bore, if going will really weaken the midfield GHM, as you would only be taking Marshall out of it who will slip into the RB role,leaving Indy, Milnes, Ross, and Hall and if as DG is now finally saying he wants to play 4-4-2 you assume SWD will move to the right wing and Steer or Sensara to the left which then logically could leave four CM's playing for two places?
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Mor importantly if timms goes, who's going to play between the sticks as I don't think Vince is ready yet
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Surprising to hear about Timms being listed but I have to agree with DG stance on this matter. Timms obviously is too opinionated and seems to have an attitude problem. I doubt he is a decent keeper but there is a reason he had had lots of clubs. Suprised they are looking to move bore on though. No real surprise on fairclough not quite good enough for this level in my opinion.
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Fairclough has not been given much chance this season (no fault of his own), but I think he's played well when he has.
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Dont agree that Bore, if going will really weaken the midfield GHM, as you would only be taking Marshall out of it who will slip into the RB role,leaving Indy, Milnes, Ross, and Hall and if as DG is now finally saying he wants to play 4-4-2 you assume SWD will move to the right wing and Steer or Sensara to the left which then logically could leave four CM's playing for two places?
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Unfair on Timms I think he is a very good keeper and played well today. He could not do a thing about any of the goals
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Dont agree that Bore, if going will really weaken the midfield GHM, as you would only be taking Marshall out of it who will slip into the RB role,leaving Indy, Milnes, Ross, and Hall and if as DG is now finally saying he wants to play 4-4-2 you assume SWD will move to the right wing and Steer or Sensara to the left which then logically could leave four CM's playing for two places?
Agree BG, with the Hall signing we have ample cover in mid-field .
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Without Bore and Fairclough, we'd have no-one to play right-wing - unless we can convert Hall? Rossy definitely doesn't like playing out on the wing.
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Obviously Timms still believes he is a law unto himself something that has been a disaster for him in the past. If he is challenging the manager then that cannot be tolerated and the manager has no alternative than to act, will Timms eat humble pie and apologise? if so will Geene make up and welcome him back into the fold?. Fairclough although very loyal does need games and does not add much from the bench. Bore has not in the main impressed, he has showed little enthusiasm and had a mare on Saturday had he not been replaced at fullback by Marshall we would have lost, I have never seen him smile even when he scored the worldy and gives the appearance of not being together with the rest. We don't want any players at Boston who think they are above the club.
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Obviously Timms still believes he is a law unto himself something that has been a disaster for him in the past. If he is challenging the manager then that cannot be tolerated and the manager has no alternative than to act, will Timms eat humble pie and apologise? if so will Geene make up and welcome him back into the fold?. Fairclough although very loyal does need games and does not add much from the bench. Bore has not in the main impressed, he has showed little enthusiasm and had a mare on Saturday had he not been replaced at fullback by Marshall we would have lost, I have never seen him smile even when he scored the worldy and gives the appearance of not being together with the rest. We don't want any players at Boston who think they are above the club.
Exactly my thoughs oxo.
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I read that DG is hoping to have a new goalkeeper in before weekend but surely we would need Timms to go beforehand to make room in the budget?? I see Jan budtz is still without a club after leaving trinity he could be an option??
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i would actually have budtz if timms was to go, proven keeper at this level
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Bloody hell I have one Saturday off on Grandad duty and half the bloody players are on their way ::).Scott and Hurst tried to sign Budtz when they were here.
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Is it set up for the return of the prodigal?
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Obviously Timms still believes he is a law unto himself something that has been a disaster for him in the past. If he is challenging the manager then that cannot be tolerated and the manager has no alternative than to act, will Timms eat humble pie and apologise? if so will Geene make up and welcome him back into the fold?. Fairclough although very loyal does need games and does not add much from the bench. Bore has not in the main impressed, he has showed little enthusiasm and had a mare on Saturday had he not been replaced at fullback by Marshall we would have lost, I have never seen him smile even when he scored the worldy and gives the appearance of not being together with the rest. We don't want any players at Boston who think they are above the club.
Exactly my thoughs oxo.
agreed.
I thought on Saturday he needed anger management lessons.
Seems like a lad with "issues" to me.
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I'm not so sure it is something new this week, this has been building. I think you can let a keeper get away with a bit more than an outfield player, as long as the back 4 have faith.
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I think Timms shows willingness to win and i think as a goalkeeper you have to be loud and vocal and scream and shout just my view. Something must have gone on this week as its not just Timms its ben and bore also and now rene steer has signed does that mean we will lose sansara aswel? I think is very bad management i think greene has done a wonderful job up to this point just hope he hasnt put himself in a position he didnt need to put himself in we are doing wonderfully well in the league i didnt think we needed to change things.... i really hope we get a good result at the weekend make or break time in my view.
Agreed
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Timms lost it on Saturday. When he got booked for kicking the ball away, it was the second time he had kicked the ball out, claiming there was something wrong with it. Completely idiotic - if there is something wrong with the ball, show it to the ref - he's in charge not you. He seemed to lose focus after that. Even before that, he wasn't coming for the ball at set pieces, which the bench were telling him to do. The management have also clearly been unhappy with his distribution in several games. If he's as good as he's supposed to be, that must mean he is not following instructions rather than not able to do it. I do think he's a decent keeper but perhaps not the best 'team player'. Loose cannons like that can have an adverse effect on team spirit, so if we can get a competent keeper who will fit into the team ethic (and maybe for less money), let's do it. Something has clearly been brewing, because all that stuff about training at Sheff Utd didn't sound good - sounded like DG saying to the player that while he's playing for us he should be concentrating on that, not tarting himself to another team; I suspect Timms didn't like that so now we have irreconcilable differences.
Bore has been unreliable. Too often he defends like a winger - OK if he's playing as a winger but as a full back I can think of a number of games where he has cost us goals. Worcester was the worst example but too many goals have come from that flank.
I was surprised Sansara was left out on Saturday, although I think he might be another one who doesn't always follow instructions and he can be prone to losing concentration. I like him as a full back - wonder if he will switch to the right, or maybe Galinski will play there, or will Marshall or Aujla drop back to right back? Steer looked good at left back, if a bit short of match fitness at this level.
DG is still developing his team. There seems to be some criticism on this thread based on nothing more than the fact that he is trying to make improvements - ffs give the bloke a chance. The team has progressed a lot since he arrived. He inherited a "defence" that was under threat from the Trades Description Act, and has improved it greatly. We have 3 decent central defenders, but full back is still a problem area, and it is now being addressed.
Hopefully he has a new keeper lined up and we can move onwards and upwards. End of rant!
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I think Timms shows willingness to win and i think as a goalkeeper you have to be loud and vocal and scream and shout just my view. Something must have gone on this week as its not just Timms its ben and bore also and now rene steer has signed does that mean we will lose sansara aswel? I think is very bad management i think greene has done a wonderful job up to this point just hope he hasnt put himself in a position he didnt need to put himself in we are doing wonderfully well in the league i didnt think we needed to change things.... i really hope we get a good result at the weekend make or break time in my view.
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Looking at the size of the squad I would think players going out is to be expected .
No objection to bringing in better players .
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Timms lost it on Saturday. When he got booked for kicking the ball away, it was the second time he had kicked the ball out, claiming there was something wrong with it. Completely idiotic - if there is something wrong with the ball, show it to the ref - he's in charge not you. He seemed to lose focus after that. Even before that, he wasn't coming for the ball at set pieces, which the bench were telling him to do. The management have also clearly been unhappy with his distribution in several games. If he's as good as he's supposed to be, that must mean he is not following instructions rather than not able to do it. I do think he's a decent keeper but perhaps not the best 'team player'. Loose cannons like that can have an adverse effect on team spirit, so if we can get a competent keeper who will fit into the team ethic (and maybe for less money), let's do it. Something has clearly been brewing, because all that stuff about training at Sheff Utd didn't sound good - sounded like DG saying to the player that while he's playing for us he should be concentrating on that, not tarting himself to another team; I suspect Timms didn't like that so now we have irreconcilable differences.
Bore has been unreliable. Too often he defends like a winger - OK if he's playing as a winger but as a full back I can think of a number of games where he has cost us goals. Worcester was the worst example but too many goals have come from that flank.
I was surprised Sansara was left out on Saturday, although I think he might be another one who doesn't always follow instructions and he can be prone to losing concentration. I like him as a full back - wonder if he will switch to the right, or maybe Galinski will play there, or will Marshall or Aujla drop back to right back? Steer looked good at left back, if a bit short of match fitness at this level.
DG is still developing his team. There seems to be some criticism on this thread based on nothing more than the fact that he is trying to make improvements - ffs give the bloke a chance. The team has progressed a lot since he arrived. He inherited a "defence" that was under threat from the Trades Description Act, and has improved it greatly. We have 3 decent central defenders, but full back is still a problem area, and it is now being addressed.
Hopefully he has a new keeper lined up and we can move onwards and upwards. End of rant!
Good post BP, he was losing it on Saturday, I wouldn't blame him for the capitulation but it was odd.
He also had a nibble at one of their players, I think another poster mentioned it on here.
I've been a bit surprised at the a out of backing he has had on this, thought the moaners would have had him out before now :)
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Obviously Timms still believes he is a law unto himself something that has been a disaster for him in the past. If he is challenging the manager then that cannot be tolerated and the manager has no alternative than to act, will Timms eat humble pie and apologise? if so will Geene make up and welcome him back into the fold?. Fairclough although very loyal does need games and does not add much from the bench. Bore has not in the main impressed, he has showed little enthusiasm and had a mare on Saturday had he not been replaced at fullback by Marshall we would have lost, I have never seen him smile even when he scored the worldy and gives the appearance of not being together with the rest. We don't want any players at Boston who think they are above the club.
Exactly my thoughs oxo.
agreed.
I thought on Saturday he needed anger management lessons.
Seems like a lad with "issues" to me.
Looks like he could chip in with Rob Scott for these lessons , maybe they could both make a saving. Both have the ability to do their jobs well but their attitude
holds them back . Fergie made the point this week , no one is bigger than the club. Timms is one of the best keepers we've had for a bit but his temperament is bad , to say the least. If you can have an argument with a football that's not inflated enough for your liking then there's no hope for you. His behaviour at Ilkeston was pretty similar apparently . Since Billy Millar has lost the Rainworth job maybe he's available and on the radar ? What we need is a sprightly pair of hands ....
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I think this is all stupid imo, i agree that ben should go out and get games because he just isnt playing enough but saying that he has just had a 'little' run of games and has played very well, with him going does that not leave us very short up top, miller SWD, Newsham? have we all not said we need another option up front because lets me honest i think all 3 have been fantastic this season but sometimes it just doesnt work against the bigger teams ie ferriby and brackley who have big centre halves.
Bore admittedly i have just thought he is a stable player, does nothing special but isnt bad, just keeps his head down and does the job, but again it leaves us very short for right back because bore is a much better option than marshall there, we all remember last season and marshall was part of that defence.
Now to the big one TIMMS just before a very big game for us DG does this, does this not show inexperience to anybody else? like on saturday not making changes until we are 3-2 up but under it, nobody else think he didnt know what to do in that situation? yes i am a big DG fan, he has done wonders for us since he has came in but this has just shocked me a lot, there is no way he can be serious if he goes into saturday with vince in goal. This needs to be resolved and quick but timms is the best keeper we have had for a very long time and this isnt the way this feud between them should be sorted
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Obviously Timms still believes he is a law unto himself something that has been a disaster for him in the past. If he is challenging the manager then that cannot be tolerated and the manager has no alternative than to act, will Timms eat humble pie and apologise? if so will Geene make up and welcome him back into the fold?. Fairclough although very loyal does need games and does not add much from the bench. Bore has not in the main impressed, he has showed little enthusiasm and had a mare on Saturday had he not been replaced at fullback by Marshall we would have lost, I have never seen him smile even when he scored the worldy and gives the appearance of not being together with the rest. We don't want any players at Boston who think they are above the club.
Well said!
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Boston United goalkeeper Ashley Timms has been transfer-listed.
A report on the Boston United club website states: “Timms is free to find a new club with immediate effect, either permanently or on loan.”
Meanwhile, attacker Ben Fairclough has joined Evo-Stik Premier Division side Grantham Town on a month’s loan.
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Who will be picking Den up this week? Hope its bigger than the mini ;)
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Timms lost it on Saturday. When he got booked for kicking the ball away, it was the second time he had kicked the ball out, claiming there was something wrong with it. Completely idiotic - if there is something wrong with the ball, show it to the ref - he's in charge not you. He seemed to lose focus after that. Even before that, he wasn't coming for the ball at set pieces, which the bench were telling him to do. The management have also clearly been unhappy with his distribution in several games. If he's as good as he's supposed to be, that must mean he is not following instructions rather than not able to do it. I do think he's a decent keeper but perhaps not the best 'team player'. Loose cannons like that can have an adverse effect on team spirit, so if we can get a competent keeper who will fit into the team ethic (and maybe for less money), let's do it. Something has clearly been brewing, because all that stuff about training at Sheff Utd didn't sound good - sounded like DG saying to the player that while he's playing for us he should be concentrating on that, not tarting himself to another team; I suspect Timms didn't like that so now we have irreconcilable differences.
Bore has been unreliable. Too often he defends like a winger - OK if he's playing as a winger but as a full back I can think of a number of games where he has cost us goals. Worcester was the worst example but too many goals have come from that flank.
I was surprised Sansara was left out on Saturday, although I think he might be another one who doesn't always follow instructions and he can be prone to losing concentration. I like him as a full back - wonder if he will switch to the right, or maybe Galinski will play there, or will Marshall or Aujla drop back to right back? Steer looked good at left back, if a bit short of match fitness at this level.
DG is still developing his team. There seems to be some criticism on this thread based on nothing more than the fact that he is trying to make improvements - ffs give the bloke a chance. The team has progressed a lot since he arrived. He inherited a "defence" that was under threat from the Trades Description Act, and has improved it greatly. We have 3 decent central defenders, but full back is still a problem area, and it is now being addressed.
Hopefully he has a new keeper lined up and we can move onwards and upwards. End of rant!
GREAT POST BURTON PILGRIM!!
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we have had a problem with r/fullback for a couple of seasons I thought BORE had filled that gap if not bring in a wing back to work with him, its not quite working for BORE for some reason at the mo.
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we have had a problem with r/fullback for a couple of seasons I thought BORE had filled that gap if not bring in a wing back to work with him, its not quite working for BORE for some reason at the mo.
the posts on here regarding Bore are similar to what appeared on "The Fishy " when he was at Grimsby
Half the fans thought he might be a full back the other half thought he might be a winger and in the end most realised he was neither .
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Timms plays tomorrow.
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MOM tomorrow for sure ;) ;)
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we have had a problem with r/fullback for a couple of seasons I thought BORE had filled that gap if not bring in a wing back to work with him, its not quite working for BORE for some reason at the mo.
What's wrong with Connor Marshall. I think he's a very solid full back, for this level.
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Timms plays tomorrow.
Apparently they found that one of the balls was 0.283 psi under-inflated :o
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We all know that balls in a warm changing room will give a different reading to balls out on the pitch because of the change in temperatures, expansion and contraction and all that.
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Looks like Timms is set to play this afternoon after all! Kiss and make up time? :bunny
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LETS hope it was only balls that's the problem.
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Who had the job of checking that one of his balls was underinflated?
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Miss cooper ha ha
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Miss cooper ha ha
ooh er mrs :)
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The only thing under-inflated today was his ego...maybe he read DG's programme notes :dan