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Title: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Patrick on September 26, 2009, 02:52:53 PM
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Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 04:33:02 PM
1-0 >:(
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 04:43:43 PM
season over all ready >:(
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Richie..p on September 26, 2009, 04:54:42 PM
careful bob. eventhough (if the result stands)you'll be right expect abuse for saying it how it is. 
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 04:59:29 PM
Tinted rose glasses ( in any order ) sorry but we are light weight.  I hope things change for the better.  Come on Boston.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: LeeChase on September 26, 2009, 05:03:45 PM
Presumably game over and we lost? The live feed seems to have forgotten to mention full time.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Adam on September 26, 2009, 05:06:51 PM
Bit of a pig to be out the Cup this early, but seriously, season over with us three points off the play-offs, playing whipping boys and 17th place in our next two fixtures? Get a grip!

Anyway, I think we're about one more loss away from the first person giving it the high and mighty "I always knew these were the wrong appointments" rubbish.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bartmac on September 26, 2009, 05:08:50 PM
lost 1 0 to a lower league team AGAIN! how many more times is this going to happen to us in the Cup?  Time for the managers to have a re-think on the personnel we've got.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Shodfried on September 26, 2009, 05:10:31 PM
Terrible result but totally expected because we're too lightweight and too inexperienced.

Nothing short of a disaster financially, I wonder now if Dave Newton is questioning the wisdom of appointing 2 managers with 2 wages who seem unable to sign anything other than kids with no experience and what looks like no appetite for the battle?

Out of the FA Cup in September.......shameful for a club with our full time off the field set up, how will they explain this one away?

Thankfully  the leagues wide open but I don't know if these two have the guts to make the experienced signings the team is crying out for........come on, surprise us all and look beyond youth for once.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: green hats mate on September 26, 2009, 05:21:28 PM
Looks like the most experienced player was to blame for goal ,
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Richie..p on September 26, 2009, 05:24:24 PM
told you bob. We've now been told to get a grip. For me we've improved defensively. last season stats didn't really show that we looked like conceding from every attack. This season that isn't the case and we do look much better at the back. But seriously in the last two home games did we actually look like we would score. We could be playing now still and not of  scored. did we score today. That is a constructive view, so I'll kindly tell wear you can stick you 'get a grip' for my opinion. I was proved right about the abuse though wasn't i. If you don't conform to the 'boston walk on air approach' expect abuse. I wanted us to win so much today but you could see this a mile away. If we don't score early v durham was us struggle to break them down.


Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: lonegunman on September 26, 2009, 05:30:22 PM
We ended up with 10 me too, Cully got a red!  :o

check the grassy knoll
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 05:37:01 PM
You get a grip Adam!  We are out of the cup we are broke and we have kids.  We needed a good cup run to pay for wages for better than we have.  This is not picking on the team but facts..  Adam wake up and smell the coffee >:(
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: deano on September 26, 2009, 05:38:19 PM
We ended up with 10 me too, Cully got a red!  :o

check the grassy knoll

 what was he sent off for?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Seenbetter on September 26, 2009, 05:40:43 PM
Bound to happen, not the result but change of tone on here. Attention will now go away from the players and head towards the managers.  I will still be at the next home game supporting the side and I will not slag off the managers because that can do more harm than good. I do think they will look inwards and try and do something about the goal drought. I know things don,t look good at the moment but it's still early days and we were never going to win the cup anyway but the cash would have helped. I hope an answer is found otherwise the gate receipts will seriously suffer.
I will keep going because I do expect a turnaround.
Remember - the club nearly folded last seaon.
Im sure we are all guilty of thinking the managers were supermen when they started and expected immediate success. Hang in there and try not to be too harsh even though you may be reall *issed off. One question I will ask is, where are the goals going to come from.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Adam on September 26, 2009, 05:41:41 PM
told you bob. We've now been told to get a grip. For me we've improved defensively. last season stats didn't really show that we looked like conceding from every attack. This season that isn't the case and we do look much better at the back. But seriously in the last two home games did we actually look like we would score. We could be playing now still and not of  scored. did we score today. That is a constructive view, so I'll kindly tell wear you can stick you 'get a grip' for my opinion. I was proved right about the abuse though wasn't i. If you don't conform to the 'boston walk on air approach' expect abuse. I wanted us to win so much today but you could see this a mile away. If we don't score early v durham was us struggle to break them down.




I don't know how you'll cope with such vile abuse... Err, seriously for a moment, how can our season possibly be over now? Did you have us down to cruise into mid table in the league, but win the FA Cup?

Looks like the most experienced player was to blame for goal ,

The need for experiences/youth is a complete illusion. Teams need good players. End of story.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 05:44:54 PM
We have a club, that is a big bonus.

We will struggle with budget mainly due to high rent on the ground.

But I hate the rose tinted glasses brigade, we must take what we have ( like it or not )

I stated our season is over I hope I am wrong.  PLEASE someone prove me wrong. :(
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 05:46:22 PM
Adam just seen your last reply please read my second reply ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: spannerman on September 26, 2009, 05:53:25 PM
Total crap , the only word to sum it up , is it going to be the same as last season not conceiding
many goals but scoring even less 3 games no goals not good enougth , we are 12 games into season
and seem to be getting worse all my high hopes seem to of been blown out of the window . lets hope
we take heed now and get some strength in the team now bfore its to late , ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 05:57:11 PM
steady on Spannerman, he who has rose tinted glasses will tell you off ;D
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: spannerman on September 26, 2009, 06:01:56 PM
my glasses became clear after the whitby game  ???
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Shoddys Lane on September 26, 2009, 06:02:30 PM
Adam. 3 points off the playoffs, 3 points from the drop zone. Is your glass half full or is it half empty? Are you wearing rose tinted spectacles, or should you have gone to Specsavers?  ;D
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 06:04:23 PM
you have to admire Adam, he is consistant :o
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 06:05:17 PM
Spannerman, how was Ireland? :D
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: spannerman on September 26, 2009, 06:05:38 PM
Adam will be spitting his dummy out soon seems a few more peoples glasses have lost the tint .
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: spannerman on September 26, 2009, 06:10:21 PM
Ireland was very good guiness as good as ever , declined drink at Jacks it was to greater chance of
e-coli , how dd the latest filming of benidorm go last week ?(or was it some were else )
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Adam on September 26, 2009, 06:11:36 PM
Adam will be spitting his dummy out soon seems a few more peoples glasses have lost the tint .


Wait until the people with perspective arrive back from the match,  ;)

Adam. 3 points off the playoffs, 3 points from the drop zone. Is your glass half full or is it half empty? Are you wearing rose tinted spectacles, or should you have gone to Specsavers?  ;D

We'll know after the next three matches: Durham and Buxton away, Ashton at home. IMHO there's not going to be much middle ground - they'll either go well with 7+ points setting us up for a play-off challenge or badly, with 3 or less which would, to be fair, indicate a season of mediocrity.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: madhos on September 26, 2009, 06:13:43 PM
ffs out the cup to lowestoft.............how bad............sorry!..............we are bad............. :(
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: onlyme on September 26, 2009, 06:13:48 PM
Not posted for a long time and not been to games for a couple of years since the family got bigger. However i really thought that after the start to the season the clubs fortunes were on the up.
Yet again it is another false start.

Lowestoft however are a good football team, they do have a good squad and they train hard. Losing is not as bad as it would have been, say we lost to Wrangle or something.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on September 26, 2009, 06:40:55 PM
Oh b*gger-things are going well and truly t*ts up.Couldn't go today-prior engagement dog showing.The dog show was at the Asfordby Amatuers Sports Club,Asfordby,Melton Mowbray.Managed to sneak away for a few minutes to watch a bit of Asfordby Vs Khalsa F.C.,Leicestershire League Div2 I think..............................mabe I'll go again next week...............
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 06:44:22 PM
how did you do mate?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on September 26, 2009, 06:53:46 PM
Placed third in group Bob so not so bad.I think I needed a bit more fire-water to help me round the ring. ;D ;D
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Mr Tickle on September 26, 2009, 08:01:56 PM
Bit of a pig to be out the Cup this early, but seriously, season over with us three points off the play-offs, playing whipping boys and 17th place in our next two fixtures? Get a grip!

Anyway, I think we're about one more loss away from the first person giving it the high and mighty "I always knew these were the wrong appointments" rubbish.

Urrrrrmmm... we are closer to the relegation spots than we are the play offs!  We are on a slippery slope since 3rd or 4th game in.  It needs to be sorted soon or we will be stuck in the bottom half of the table.

The financial implications of losing todays game are massive, let alone the effect it has on team\sippoerters morale!
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Ken Fox on September 26, 2009, 08:09:45 PM
First set of pics, more to follow as and when I get decent internet connection on way home to Leeds.

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Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: cappo on September 26, 2009, 08:11:25 PM
ffs out the cup to lowestoft.............how bad............sorry!..............we are bad............. :(
ok it is as you say"lowestoft"but if you actually think about "lowestoft"there is actually in our respective leagues only about 12 teams inbetween us at our levels.away in the cup lose 1-0 its hardly the end of the f*C*IN world is it.i do beleive there has been bigger shocks.still doesnt make me feel a lot better  though
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: father Ted on September 26, 2009, 08:14:13 PM
 your a hero Ken ,, must have cost u an arm and a leg to get there...
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: cappo on September 26, 2009, 08:16:23 PM
your a hero Ken ,, must have cost u an arm and a leg to get there...
well said ft as always brill photos ken
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: father Ted on September 26, 2009, 08:25:39 PM
 Is it just me or does anyone else get a downer for seeing Ken's brill fotos ..when we have LOST ..
   Or does it just seem to be happening more and more  ?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: oxo on September 26, 2009, 08:31:38 PM
Just got back and frankly wish I hadnt bothered going. It is dificult to pick any player who gave his all, and if he did he isnt good enough at even this standard.
I have to say our goalkeeper is very poor and not worth his place over Butcher,if there is any rain during a match he will take root on his line particularly as he watches the ball sail over him into the net direct from a corner.
I do fear for us unless the managers get a grip with our style of play, and move a few on and replace them with fit tryers.
This is the first time I have criticised on here but had to get things off my mind before I go on holiday on Monday.
Up the Pilgrims.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bob Lee on September 26, 2009, 08:34:24 PM
Is that perspective enough for you Adam?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Shodfried on September 26, 2009, 08:48:36 PM
I think thats twice now the opposition have scored direct from a corner this season, didn't Burscough get one like that too?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: madhos on September 26, 2009, 08:51:21 PM
think a cup run may have helped the coffers.............but ya right cappo..........the reality is we are now a tinpot team in a tinpot league......
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Ken Fox on September 26, 2009, 09:20:10 PM
More pics, more to follow...

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/lowes17.jpg)

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The goal.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on September 26, 2009, 09:22:42 PM
Difficult to give a prespective view on the game as we didn't get to see most of the second half after someone woke up the village idiots at half time.  

They just wanted it more and in a game of about 1 chance for both sides managed to knick it, two very poor sides clogging out a very poor cup tie, so bad that the locals weren't even bothered about watching it and prefered to watch us  ;D

Not overly surprised we lost and not going to go over the top, its a test, we'll see if they come out of the other side.

Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on September 26, 2009, 09:37:27 PM
Attendance in the region of 1100  :o  which bag did they pluck that number out of?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: BostonGoals on September 26, 2009, 09:38:46 PM
not really surprised based on current form but its a big blow to our finances.

TBF, Lowestoft are quite a big side so its not the biggest upset in the world.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: cappo on September 26, 2009, 09:41:16 PM
Attendance in the region of 1100  :o  which bag did they pluck that number out of?
i actually think it was 888
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Ken Fox on September 26, 2009, 09:49:35 PM
Last set of pics probably...

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/lowes31.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/lowes32.jpg)

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Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on September 26, 2009, 09:51:41 PM
Attendance in the region of 1100  :o  which bag did they pluck that number out of?
i actually think it was 888

1134,  Did they count the plod going in and out the turnstyle or something?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: father Ted on September 26, 2009, 09:55:16 PM
mm I predicted 888 ..
    Are U in fact  me ?  'cappo '
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: leicester pilgrim on September 26, 2009, 10:12:16 PM

Boston started strongly but (in my opinion) we started to panic when we didn't get an early goal. As the game went on and on we resorted to long hoof balls down the throats of the Lowestoft central defence, and they dealt with these fairly easily.

There was no point in Cotton being named in the side today or in Kennedy coming on as substitute. That's no criticism of them at all, but we simply did not pass the ball out to our wingers at any time. I like to see football played with wingers, but if we're not going to use them then there's no point in picking them.

I can only remember one move in the whole of the second half where we played the ball on the ground. That resulted in Danny Davidson putting the ball in the net, albeit the linesman's flag came to Lowestoft's rescue. But to me it demonstrated what we can do when we play to our strengths. And its infuriating that we didn't do that the rest of the game.

Cullingworth needs to dropped from the side and arguably fined until he has learned some discipline. Against Retford in the week he launched a foul-mouthed onslaught at a linesman and stronger officials would have been well within their rights to send him off then. And to get sent off for two yellow cards after two bouts of dissent today is simply not accepatable. Yes it was late in today's game and probably didn't have a bearing on the final outcome. But we already have a number of injuries in defensive positions and now he will be suspended as well. Cullingworth, you have let your team-mates and the supporters down.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on September 26, 2009, 10:12:40 PM
mm I predicted 888 ..
    Are U in fact  me ?  'cappo '

Maybe a bit of Remote Phychic in action ala Derren Brown?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: BUFC Loyal on September 26, 2009, 11:40:59 PM
looking at todays game and season in general so-far

as RS has said changes will be made, imo i think we are in need of a striker who can take a half chance more often than not although he maybe needed a few chances, really think we could do with a player up top in the mould of ricky miller

and as many people have pointed out a experianced defender imo is a must with or without (injruy wise) canners 

now im not saying were a bad team over night, becasue over the last few weeks/games i've nothing but praised the team's work ethic , but 1 win in the last 8 its starting become a urgent matter tbh and again as i have previously said S&H realise their is some tweaking here and there too do and i have 100% confidence in them too do that , least their man enough too admit wrong doings in the transfer market

keep the faith and supporting the lads
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: sparks on September 26, 2009, 11:54:19 PM

Boston started strongly but (in my opinion) we started to panic when we didn't get an early goal. As the game went on and on we resorted to long hoof balls down the throats of the Lowestoft central defence, and they dealt with these fairly easily.

There was no point in Cotton being named in the side today or in Kennedy coming on as substitute. That's no criticism of them at all, but we simply did not pass the ball out to our wingers at any time. I like to see football played with wingers, but if we're not going to use them then there's no point in picking them.

I can only remember one move in the whole of the second half where we played the ball on the ground. That resulted in Danny Davidson putting the ball in the net, albeit the linesman's flag came to Lowestoft's rescue. But to me it demonstrated what we can do when we play to our strengths. And its infuriating that we didn't do that the rest of the game.

Cullingworth needs to dropped from the side and arguably fined until he has learned some discipline. Against Retford in the week he launched a foul-mouthed onslaught at a linesman and stronger officials would have been well within their rights to send him off then. And to get sent off for two yellow cards after two bouts of dissent today is simply not accepatable. Yes it was late in today's game and probably didn't have a bearing on the final outcome. But we already have a number of injuries in defensive positions and now he will be suspended as well. Cullingworth, you have let your team-mates and the supporters down.


 Some very interesting points made there by Leicester Pilgrim and I to will agree with your
 interpretation of wing play.Why oh why do we have to simply lump it up to our forward
 line irrespective of who wears the shirt.Rob Scott has commented today of the way he
 was satisfied with the first half performance and more of the same second half, then
 what happens,we gave away a cheap corner resulting in the only goal of the game to
 which equals.................. PANIC STATIONS from the Management. He then contridicts
 his own interpretation of the first half by making like for like substitutions instead of  
 probably keeping a little faith in his players given consideration they scored early in the
 second period. For me both Newsham and Cullingworth are two players who are
 showing complacany in their selections in the starting eleven, the fullback thinking he is
 a lot better than he actually is and the forward unless he is only two yards from the goal
 line is incapable at present from finding the net, his effort in the second half to bring us
 level was merely a passback to the Lowestoft custodian.
 In summary a very disapointing result and performance from a Pilgrim side that is very
 much lacking in confidence all over the park...........
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: doc on September 27, 2009, 08:54:36 AM
my word people are quick to kick the team when they are down.

couple of wins and we will be there or thereabouts.

moaning and booing will not help the team
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on September 27, 2009, 09:14:38 AM
Well you won't find me moaning and booing at the next game,it's counter productive.I will,however,reserve the right to criticise on this forum if criticism is deserved.For what it's worth I still feel we have many players better than we had this time last season,particularly in defence and midfield,at least when everyone is fit.On the other hand it's quite clear something has gone wrong in recent weeks and it's not all down to injuries.Tactically we are not right and i don't think our forward options are good enough.Changes are called for-and quickly.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on September 27, 2009, 10:00:22 AM
4-4-2 didn't appear to work yesterday (if that is what we were playing?) so I say if they want to play 4-3-3 cos that is what they are confortable with then let them.

Ignore any detractors on here, play the game how you want with the players you want, this trend for bowing to what the fans want on the pitch is not a good one.  Alexander had his critics every year with his 5-3-2 and noone up at corners business, but they weren't moaning as they drove down to Cardiff two seasons in a row.  They were appointed to manage the team through a campaign, as with last year, let them get on with it and see where we stand come Christmas. The league was never lost in September ffs.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: green hats mate on September 27, 2009, 11:58:44 AM
I go along with what you say LCB, panic seems to be the mother of many opinions on here . To steady the nerves of these people the two teams sitting on top this stage of the season rarely get promoted . Re KA some fans called for his appointment at Boston , in his 10 years of management how many promotions did he achieve ?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Ken Fox on September 27, 2009, 12:10:54 PM
A few more pics - some taken with my backup camera during the warmup, a few crowd shots and a few half decent shots I missed during the original scan through.

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Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: father Ted on September 27, 2009, 12:29:50 PM
 Comprehensive . Ken .
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: truffleshuffle on September 27, 2009, 12:34:27 PM
A few more pics - some taken with my backup camera during the warmup, a few crowd shots and a few half decent shots I missed during the original scan through.

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/lowes47.jpg)


You can see the instigators of the trouble in this shot (the guy in the Norwich shirt and the Gap toothed wonder!)
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: father Ted on September 27, 2009, 12:41:03 PM
 Agree with Newsham comments .
   He's from Rotheram and maybe too bound in with the Mgmnt ..need  something to change there..
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: BostonGoals on September 27, 2009, 02:21:09 PM
Newshams our top scorer though isnt he?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: sparks on September 27, 2009, 03:09:45 PM
Newshams our top scorer though isnt he?

 Take nothing away from the player there, statistics prove he has five tap ins and a pen,
 but having witnessed all our fixtures so far this league season apart from the opening
 encouraging win at Giggs Lane (where he wasn't on the scoresheet),what other real
 and telling contributions has he made in open play,assists and real endeavour with his
 ariel presence and workmanlike performances so far that would encourage selection
 every game . I have nothing personel against the guy, if anything he is a cute and clever
 player and that is probably what the management see in him to give him a shirt week in
 week out.
 HOWEVER....
 I think he should be doing a little more than he does for the team as he really looks a
 luxury at times when we are up against it............ and should be classed along with the
 other aforementioned strikers for inconsistancy......
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bostonshire on September 27, 2009, 05:19:57 PM
A cute player, mmmmm My wife thinks that to! :o
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: woad_pilgrim on September 27, 2009, 06:56:29 PM
think a cup run may have helped the coffers.............but ya right cappo..........the reality is we are now a tinpot team in a tinpot league......

At last some people are starting to get it. People calling for bigger players or more experienced players have got to realise we don't have the money to pay for said players. It would be great to be able to match BPA in the transfer stakes, but even then looking at them it doesn't guarantee success.

Yesterday I don't think we lost because of being out-muscled Lowerstoft weren't that sort of team, it was nice to actually watch a team that didn't try to kick us off the park. Yesterday we simply weren't good enough, a very poor performance from the team. First 20-25 minutes we where the better team but only created 2 good chances. From then on we where second best, second half especially. The team for me looks totally devoid of confidence and once they scored we never looked like getting back into it. To be fair it isn't that much of a shock, I think Lowestoft would hold their own in our league, they're a steady if unspectacular side. The difference between the teams was as I have said confidence, they have known nothing but success for the last couple of seasons and again this.

This is our worst performance of the season so far, as people have said the fans have got caught up in the opinion that these 2 managers guarantee success but the reality is they are now going to have to prove their selves. Player wise I'll put something on the "who will be leaving thread". But it is ridiculous to say the season is over in September, we still have the trophy and in the league anyone can beat anyone, with a bit of tinkering this team could still be in the mix.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on September 27, 2009, 08:16:14 PM
think a cup run may have helped the coffers.............but ya right cappo..........the reality is we are now a tinpot team in a tinpot league......

At last some people are starting to get it. People calling for bigger players or more experienced players have got to realise we don't have the money to pay for said players. It would be great to be able to match BPA in the transfer stakes, but even then looking at them it doesn't guarantee success.

Yesterday I don't think we lost because of being out-muscled Lowerstoft weren't that sort of team, it was nice to actually watch a team that didn't try to kick us off the park. Yesterday we simply weren't good enough, a very poor performance from the team. First 20-25 minutes we where the better team but only created 2 good chances. From then on we where second best, second half especially. The team for me looks totally devoid of confidence and once they scored we never looked like getting back into it. To be fair it isn't that much of a shock, I think Lowestoft would hold their own in our league, they're a steady if unspectacular side. The difference between the teams was as I have said confidence, they have known nothing but success for the last couple of seasons and again this.

This is our worst performance of the season so far, as people have said the fans have got caught up in the opinion that these 2 managers guarantee success but the reality is they are now going to have to prove their selves. Player wise I'll put something on the "who will be leaving thread". But it is ridiculous to say the season is over in September, we still have the trophy and in the league anyone can beat anyone, with a bit of tinkering this team could still be in the mix.

+1 as the kids say.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Seenbetter on September 27, 2009, 10:40:53 PM
A few people keep saying we are strapped for cash. I haven't had my head in the sand the past 12 months but are we really still that hard up. 1000+ attendances, probably around £10 per person per game. I know the lease is expensive. Inland revenue off our backs. Apperently a fixed tight budget.
Perhaps we are strapped for cash but the only time I hear that is on this forum. I'm not saying everything is rosey financially but it would be interesting to know the facts. Just an observation, not a gripe.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: woad_pilgrim on September 27, 2009, 10:57:24 PM
A few people keep saying we are strapped for cash. I haven't had my head in the sand the past 12 months but are we really still that hard up. 1000+ attendances, probably around £10 per person per game. I know the lease is expensive. Inland revenue off our backs. Apperently a fixed tight budget.
Perhaps we are strapped for cash but the only time I hear that is on this forum. I'm not saying everything is rosey financially but it would be interesting to know the facts. Just an observation, not a gripe.

At the last fans forum David Newton said we are still operating at a loss and he cannot and will not keep subsidising the club. He then went on to talk about his plans to get us breaking even next season. So don't think our playing budget will be increased until we can start operating at a profit which is a minimum of 2 seasons (this and next) away.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Seenbetter on September 28, 2009, 08:00:39 AM
Thanks WP. So is it best to finish well this season rather than push for promotion because that would mean more expensive players. With success there could possibly be better gate receipts which hopefully would pay the extra player budget required. So it raises a question. Should we be content with creating moderate success and financial stability and push on for promotion when running at a profit, possibly next season Or try and get promotion this season and hope the gate receipts improve to pay for higher league football next season. A difficult tightrope to walk. Maybe the managers are trying to develop a team that will carry on into next season in either league.
Glad I'm not an owner or a manager. Whatever, I do think they they are all the right men for the job and completely support them even though the results are a bit dissappointing.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on September 28, 2009, 10:38:03 AM
Thanks WP. So is it best to finish well this season rather than push for promotion because that would mean more expensive players. With success there could possibly be better gate receipts which hopefully would pay the extra player budget required. So it raises a question. Should we be content with creating moderate success and financial stability and push on for promotion when running at a profit, possibly next season Or try and get promotion this season and hope the gate receipts improve to pay for higher league football next season. A difficult tightrope to walk. Maybe the managers are trying to develop a team that will carry on into next season in either league.
Glad I'm not an owner or a manager. Whatever, I do think they they are all the right men for the job and completely support them even though the results are a bit dissappointing.

Build a squad in the hope that the players you get see you well, gain more money to add to said squad if side plays well...

...rather than BUY a squad that you hope will build your income, gambling that someone else doesn't do the above or out bid you in the buying success stakes.

Doubt we are making a profit, but I'd still rather they built a team than try and buy success as that way always ends in tears.  If we are not good enough then so be it we are not good enough, but I don't want to fly up through the divisions to then crash back down when the money runs out, I'm sick of crashing down.

Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on September 28, 2009, 11:50:27 AM
If anyone is in any doubt about the financial position of the club,have a look on the o/s-the "Support The Pilgrims" campaign is re-launched.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Pride of Lincolnshire on September 28, 2009, 12:46:39 PM
I'm extremely grateful to still have a club and I'm thankfull for all that the owners have done to save it.
I'd just like to point out to the clubs owners that every paying fan who goes to york street is supporting the club financially more than enough, the prices are very high for this league but us fans don't mind since this helps the club. To carry on asking fans for even more money is unfair. It's up to the owners to generate new ideas of financially stablising the club - not simply put a bucket out and expect the fans to cough up and make up the deficit. 
Just a little thought of mine. Chesnut homes built you a lovely little house and you paid for it and moved in and all was well. Later on chesnut homes comes back to you the customer and asks for more money because chesnut homes as a business is in the red, you'd be furious would you not ?
Some people may think I'm being harsh but thats just the way I see it.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: blue2 on September 28, 2009, 12:52:35 PM

You can see the instigators of the trouble in this shot (the guy in the Norwich shirt and the Gap toothed wonder!)


We were standing close to all of this, and felt that it was getting a bit stupid. Elements of both sets of fans (and it was only a small minority) were certainly trying to provoke each other. It did add some atmosphere to the occasion though, and I am glad that most stayed sensible when it would have been easy for it all to 'kick off' and become ugly. I can understand concerns voiced about the youngsters at the game who probably found it a bit scary.
I sincerely hope that things get better for you for the rest of the season
We LTFC fans have a home tie to Sutton Coldfield to look forward to now and I am hopeful we can continue our run in the FA Cup.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: BUFC Loyal on September 28, 2009, 05:14:40 PM

You can see the instigators of the trouble in this shot (the guy in the Norwich shirt and the Gap toothed wonder!)


We were standing close to all of this, and felt that it was getting a bit stupid. Elements of both sets of fans (and it was only a small minority) were certainly trying to provoke each other. It did add some atmosphere to the occasion though, and I am glad that most stayed sensible when it would have been easy for it all to 'kick off' and become ugly. I can understand concerns voiced about the youngsters at the game who probably found it a bit scary.
I sincerely hope that things get better for you for the rest of the season
We LTFC fans have a home tie to Sutton Coldfield to look forward to now and I am hopeful we can continue our run in the FA Cup.

tbh though their wasnt any trouble till the point the bloke in the norwich shirt and gappy came over , thats when we gave back as good as we got, can't see why you would be complaining
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bostonshire on September 28, 2009, 05:48:30 PM
The blame will alwys be on the one who decided to stand in front of the bufc fans facing away from the feild of play.


This is were the fa say the fan as stepped from banter(even as silly as it got) to trying to provoke fans. out of 1100 fans only one started, then about 15 joined him but if it wasnt for that one fan it wouldnt have happened.

I enjoyed the company of many of your fans on sat, but idiots like that will let your image down.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Mr Tickle on September 28, 2009, 06:06:01 PM
What a fabulous place to visit.  I was met only with politeness and hospitality.  Really enjoyed being able to get a pint before, during and at the end of the game (just before they closed the bar due to the big fellah in the blue shirt).  I went along on a jolly and had a great day well all bar the football  ;)
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: blue2 on September 29, 2009, 09:28:28 AM
The blame will alwys be on the one who decided to stand in front of the bufc fans facing away from the feild of play.


This is were the fa say the fan as stepped from banter(even as silly as it got) to trying to provoke fans. out of 1100 fans only one started, then about 15 joined him but if it wasnt for that one fan it wouldnt have happened.

I enjoyed the company of many of your fans on sat, but idiots like that will let your image down.

As a Lowestoft fan I totally agree with you and while I love a bit of banter between fans (as it creates atmosphere), it did lead to insults and aggressive behaviour. I was pleased to see action taken to remove the idiots from the ground as it all calmed down again. I think all fans involved showed restraint as it could so easily have turned nasty.
Most Lowestoft fans are thoroughly enjoying our recent success and would not want to see the clubs reputation damaged by a handful of mindless t***s.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on September 29, 2009, 11:24:30 AM
Honest question, have you ever had the need to segregate, and is it possible at your ground? If it weren't for our poor form I'm sure more would have travelled and who knows what we could have been discussing on here.  What would the club be able to do if say FCUM came out of the hat instead of Sutton?
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: blue2 on September 29, 2009, 04:59:58 PM
Honest question, have you ever had the need to segregate, and is it possible at your ground? If it weren't for our poor form I'm sure more would have travelled and who knows what we could have been discussing on here.  What would the club be able to do if say FCUM came out of the hat instead of Sutton?

Segregation is not usually necessary but it became apparent on Saturday that this should probably have been done. Having said that, it was really only a couple of fans (the toothless wonder as some are calling him) who were trying to provoke. I am pleased to say that the majority of fans on both sides, and in the vicinity of the incidents, saw common sense and did not allow things to deteriorate. While I do not think that the fan in question will be, or should be, banned from Lowestoft games, I do think that any club at any level should make it clear that this type of behaviour is totally unacceptable and, as it could be costly to the club, could lead to a ban. As I said before, I think good humoured banter makes a game, but when it becomes insulting and provocative it is a step too far.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Richie..p on September 29, 2009, 09:14:30 PM
told you bob. We've now been told to get a grip. For me we've improved defensively. last season stats didn't really show that we looked like conceding from every attack. This season that isn't the case and we do look much better at the back. But seriously in the last two home games did we actually look like we would score. We could be playing now still and not of  scored. did we score today. That is a constructive view, so I'll kindly tell wear you can stick you 'get a grip' for my opinion. I was proved right about the abuse though wasn't i. If you don't conform to the 'boston walk on air approach' expect abuse. I wanted us to win so much today but you could see this a mile away. If we don't score early v durham was us struggle to break them down.




I don't know how you'll cope with such vile abuse... Err, seriously for a moment, how can our season possibly be over now? Did you have us down to cruise into mid table in the league, but win the FA Cup?

Looks like the most experienced player was to blame for goal ,

The need for experiences/youth is a complete illusion. Teams need good players. End of story.

not been on since the weekend. Where did I say our season is over?  ::)
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on September 29, 2009, 10:24:59 PM
Honest question, have you ever had the need to segregate, and is it possible at your ground? If it weren't for our poor form I'm sure more would have travelled and who knows what we could have been discussing on here.  What would the club be able to do if say FCUM came out of the hat instead of Sutton?

Segregation is not usually necessary but it became apparent on Saturday that this should probably have been done. Having said that, it was really only a couple of fans (the toothless wonder as some are calling him) who were trying to provoke. I am pleased to say that the majority of fans on both sides, and in the vicinity of the incidents, saw common sense and did not allow things to deteriorate. While I do not think that the fan in question will be, or should be, banned from Lowestoft games, I do think that any club at any level should make it clear that this type of behaviour is totally unacceptable and, as it could be costly to the club, could lead to a ban. As I said before, I think good humoured banter makes a game, but when it becomes insulting and provocative it is a step too far.

Have you ever had the need to segregate and how is it possible, just a thought we had at the game while trying to ignore the wind whistling through someones teeth.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: blue2 on September 30, 2009, 10:12:44 AM

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Have you ever had the need to segregate and how is it possible, just a thought we had at the game while trying to ignore the wind whistling through someones teeth.
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I have no recent experience of how they would go about segregating fans, but a colleague of mine has said that we have not segregated since 1978. Apparently (and I can't remember) we had a turnstile at the other end of the ground in those days so could keep them penned in. Problem we have now is that all fans would go through the one turnstile area. But I do not think we are considering the need for this at the moment and it would be a shame if the stupid behaviour of the 'handful' caused further problems like this in the future. I suppose it is one of the prices to pay as the club becomes more successful.
This is my last post on this forum - it has been fun having my say and thanks for being so welcoming.
I wish Boston well for the rest of the seaon.
Title: Re: v Lowestoft Town - Match Thread
Post by: Bartmac on September 30, 2009, 02:58:58 PM
Thanks Blue, and hope The Trawlermen progrees further in the Cup. G'byeeee ;D