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Title: D G
Post by: shinnster on April 30, 2013, 10:37:14 PM
Dennis Greene has said openly tonight that young Sam Vince will be 2nd choice keeper next season and also has said that he is on the brink of signing the best non-league keeper around.

                      Any ideas
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Post by: kingofnaves on April 30, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
Singh ?
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Post by: truffleshuffle on April 30, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
Drench?   ???
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Post by: woad_pilgrim on April 30, 2013, 10:49:16 PM
Best Non-league GK includes the conference prem. So I'm going for Mckeown...
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Post by: kingofnaves on April 30, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
Best Non-league GK includes the conference prem. So I'm going for Mckeown...
Hope so but thats half the budget gone on 1 player!!!!!!
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Post by: woad_pilgrim on April 30, 2013, 11:02:01 PM
Best Non-league GK includes the conference prem. So I'm going for Mckeown...
Hope so but thats half the budget gone on 1 player!!!!!!
Maybe he'll come because he loves the club, same reason all Trinity's (soon to be ex) players went there :D
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Post by: Shauneyg on April 30, 2013, 11:07:24 PM
Singh is very good keeper. Walker from corby is highly rated. Hopefully we can make some impressive signings really soon.
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Post by: Shauneyg on April 30, 2013, 11:08:35 PM
Where did you here that Greene said he is on verge of signing a new keeper??
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Post by: The Big M on April 30, 2013, 11:10:54 PM
I read it on Twitter
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Post by: Shauneyg on April 30, 2013, 11:28:41 PM
I'm going for jan budtz after reading the description Duncan Browne gave of him. 6ft 4 with league experience and commands his area well! Hoping to sign 3-4 more this week aswell.
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Post by: Bostonshire on May 01, 2013, 12:59:29 AM
I'm going for jan budtz after reading the description Duncan Browne gave of him. 6ft 4 with league experience and commands his area well! Hoping to sign 3-4 more this week aswell.

 :) Check his wiki everything matches
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Post by: LPRA on May 01, 2013, 07:41:01 AM
Billy Turley is 6ft 4....
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Post by: Tash on May 01, 2013, 08:24:48 AM
Billy Turley is 6ft 4....

Yes but that's round his waist :)
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Post by: Chelsea on May 01, 2013, 08:40:29 AM
Robert Peat only 6ft 2inch ???
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Post by: Bostonshire on May 01, 2013, 10:50:32 AM
Billy Turley is 6ft 4....

No Not billy turley
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Post by: Crazy Neil on May 01, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
It will definitely NOT be Billy Turley ... 
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Post by: Chelsea on May 01, 2013, 11:09:15 AM
Ashley Timms? bit of interesting history
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Post by: Shauneyg on May 01, 2013, 11:09:37 AM
Changed my mind after reading article on lincolnshire echo website. I reckon be Ashley timms from Hinckley???
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Post by: noughtyforties on May 01, 2013, 11:26:48 AM
I hope its not that convicted fraudster......we've had enough of his type down here of late.

Shameful if true, surely we can do better than that?
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Post by: Maxross on May 01, 2013, 11:29:27 AM
Based on the statements I've heard, my guess was also Timms.  I don't think his past history need be a problem though.  He's freely admitted he made mistakes in the past and has served his punishment.  From what I understand he now wants to rebuild his career and work his way back up the football ladder.  Good luck to him, and if thats with us, lets hope we can benefit from it.  If he signs for us I'll be more concerned about what he does here, than what he's done when he was younger and he's still only 27 I believe.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Tash on May 01, 2013, 11:41:54 AM
"He started his career in the Football League and I think he'll get back there one day"

Read more: http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/Boston-United-set-sign-best-keeper-non-league/story-18857492-detail/story.html#ixzz2S2JQ6Orc
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Well it definately isn't Budtz at 34 yo he will not be getting back in the lge.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Crazy Neil on May 01, 2013, 11:58:20 AM
The clues are there :D

http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/boston-united/debutant-vince-gets-the-thumbs-up-but-who-is-the-best-keeper-in-non-league-who-will-be-joining-boston-united-1-5046979 (http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/boston-united/debutant-vince-gets-the-thumbs-up-but-who-is-the-best-keeper-in-non-league-who-will-be-joining-boston-united-1-5046979)
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Post by: Chelsea on May 01, 2013, 12:18:59 PM
N F please don't start moaning before he signs ( glass half full or half empty)
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Post by: Seenbetter on May 01, 2013, 02:52:12 PM
We've had a pineapple head and now we have someone with a beaver on his head (take that whichever way you want ).
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Post by: oxo on May 01, 2013, 02:53:28 PM
Timms did look a good keeper against us and it looks as though it will be him however, I still rate Jas Singh as the best keeper in non league and would love to have him here.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Myleftfoot on May 01, 2013, 06:38:49 PM
N F please don't start moaning before he signs ( glass half full or half empty)

That's funny!  8)
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Post by: Myleftfoot on May 01, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
Robert Peat only 6ft 2inch ???

I'm that tall  :) How much would they pay?  ;)  I'll volunteer if that'll help   8)
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 01, 2013, 07:35:21 PM
Losing confidence in Greene with every passing day. First he comes out and says we're aiming for 7th or 8th, totally underselling a club of our size in this league.

Next he comes out and says he's signed the best keeper in non league, unless he's signing a full time pro from Conf Prem then I suggest he should have said the best keeper at this level or below. And if it had been Graham Drury had said this he would have been crucified on here, because it's likable Dennis Greene nobody bats an eyelid.

He then fails to tell either of his keepers they are not being retained, lacks professionalism, class and again if done by Graham Drury would have taken some stick on here.

The retained list, Ward and Stainsfield? Take it we're looking to not keep many clean sheets this season. Even if they're squad players they'll have to fill in at some point due to injuries, suspensions, unavailability. Whilst on this point, 3 signed + 7 offered + 6 DG says he needs =16 - Ward out on loan, Reed who he says is one for the future leaves 14. So we have 11 + 3 for the bench first team players. The rest of the bench will have to be made of those 2 plus youths/reserves. Not many game changes and that's without injuries etc. I hope he's going to sign more than he says or else we're going to have times where we struggle to put 11 first teamers out...

For all the sh*t Drury got on here, he instilled me with more confidence that Greene is at the moment. Really not looking forward to next season, get the feeling Greene is blagging it and his signings won't be anywhere near good enough, this based on who he's kept, offering Mills when he's not really done anything for example.

I could go on but I think that's enough for starters. A very concerned fan.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on May 01, 2013, 08:26:01 PM
Agree with some of that, Mills however has looked good so far.
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Post by: BosLeake on May 01, 2013, 08:58:08 PM
Losing confidence in Greene with every passing day. First he comes out and says we're aiming for 7th or 8th, totally underselling a club of our size in this league.

Next he comes out and says he's signed the best keeper in non league, unless he's signing a full time pro from Conf Prem then I suggest he should have said the best keeper at this level or below. And if it had been Graham Drury had said this he would have been crucified on here, because it's likable Dennis Greene nobody bats an eyelid.

He then fails to tell either of his keepers they are not being retained, lacks professionalism, class and again if done by Graham Drury would have taken some stick on here.

The retained list, Ward and Stainsfield? Take it we're looking to not keep many clean sheets this season. Even if they're squad players they'll have to fill in at some point due to injuries, suspensions, unavailability. Whilst on this point, 3 signed + 7 offered + 6 DG says he needs =16 - Ward out on loan, Reed who he says is one for the future leaves 14. So we have 11 + 3 for the bench first team players. The rest of the bench will have to be made of those 2 plus youths/reserves. Not many game changes and that's without injuries etc. I hope he's going to sign more than he says or else we're going to have times where we struggle to put 11 first teamers out...

For all the sh*t Drury got on here, he instilled me with more confidence that Greene is at the moment. Really not looking forward to next season, get the feeling Greene is blagging it and his signings won't be anywhere near good enough, this based on who he's kept, offering Mills when he's not really done anything for example.

I could go on but I think that's enough for starters. A very concerned fan.

Yes if Drury had made these remarks he would been called all the names under the sun, If true about the players waiting in the bar after the game then that is terrible.

Would have had Paul Lister over Ward Tbh.With regards to Mills would like to see how he plays after a good pre season.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Burton Pilgrim on May 01, 2013, 09:01:13 PM
Mills has done ok in patches, and looks promising - not totally fair to judge as he hadn't played for a while before joining us so not match fit.  DG will want to improve his work rate and awareness - at the moment he stops playing when he loses the ball.
Think the keeper might be Timms.  He looked good against us (apart from bottling that challenge with SWD).  Also didn't react to the crowd's taunting about his past - a good sign?  Maybe he has matured.  His twitter account features a picture from the match against us, if that's any clue.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: green hats mate on May 01, 2013, 09:13:30 PM
Losing confidence in Greene with every passing day. First he comes out and says we're aiming for 7th or 8th, totally underselling a club of our size in this league.

Next he comes out and says he's signed the best keeper in non league, unless he's signing a full time pro from Conf Prem then I suggest he should have said the best keeper at this level or below. And if it had been Graham Drury had said this he would have been crucified on here, because it's likable Dennis Greene nobody bats an eyelid.

He then fails to tell either of his keepers they are not being retained, lacks professionalism, class and again if done by Graham Drury would have taken some stick on here.

The retained list, Ward and Stainsfield? Take it we're looking to not keep many clean sheets this season. Even if they're squad players they'll have to fill in at some point due to injuries, suspensions, unavailability. Whilst on this point, 3 signed + 7 offered + 6 DG says he needs =16 - Ward out on loan, Reed who he says is one for the future leaves 14. So we have 11 + 3 for the bench first team players. The rest of the bench will have to be made of those 2 plus youths/reserves. Not many game changes and that's without injuries etc. I hope he's going to sign more than he says or else we're going to have times where we struggle to put 11 first teamers out...

For all the sh*t Drury got on here, he instilled me with more confidence that Greene is at the moment. Really not looking forward to next season, get the feeling Greene is blagging it and his signings won't be anywhere near good enough, this based on who he's kept, offering Mills when he's not really done anything for example.

I could go on but I think that's enough for starters. A very concerned fan.

I can see your concerns WP but I think you are jumping the gun judging him before we even know who he is going to sign . 
Like myself you mentioned a few times JLwas about 3/4 players short of a good team , all retained players are Lee players .
As for GD signings all have gone with very few complaints from fans . On that basis I can see nothing to recommend Drury .
Looking at the record of Drury during his stay he made us real candidates for relegation .
Title: Re: D G
Post by: BosLeake on May 01, 2013, 09:18:57 PM
Yes GHM I will second that part about relegation, when I was looking at the league how it finished at the weekend I think we would have been fighting with Corby and Histon to stay up under Drury.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 01, 2013, 09:30:05 PM
Mills has done ok in patches, and looks promising - not totally fair to judge as he hadn't played for a while before joining us so not match fit.  DG will want to improve his work rate and awareness - at the moment he stops playing when he loses the ball.
Think the keeper might be Timms.  He looked good against us (apart from bottling that challenge with SWD).  Also didn't react to the crowd's taunting about his past - a good sign?  Maybe he has matured.  His twitter account features a picture from the match against us, if that's any clue.
Loads of people on here judged Drury signings after much less than 7 games...
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 01, 2013, 09:47:26 PM
Losing confidence in Greene with every passing day. First he comes out and says we're aiming for 7th or 8th, totally underselling a club of our size in this league.

Next he comes out and says he's signed the best keeper in non league, unless he's signing a full time pro from Conf Prem then I suggest he should have said the best keeper at this level or below. And if it had been Graham Drury had said this he would have been crucified on here, because it's likable Dennis Greene nobody bats an eyelid.

He then fails to tell either of his keepers they are not being retained, lacks professionalism, class and again if done by Graham Drury would have taken some stick on here.

The retained list, Ward and Stainsfield? Take it we're looking to not keep many clean sheets this season. Even if they're squad players they'll have to fill in at some point due to injuries, suspensions, unavailability. Whilst on this point, 3 signed + 7 offered + 6 DG says he needs =16 - Ward out on loan, Reed who he says is one for the future leaves 14. So we have 11 + 3 for the bench first team players. The rest of the bench will have to be made of those 2 plus youths/reserves. Not many game changes and that's without injuries etc. I hope he's going to sign more than he says or else we're going to have times where we struggle to put 11 first teamers out...

For all the sh*t Drury got on here, he instilled me with more confidence that Greene is at the moment. Really not looking forward to next season, get the feeling Greene is blagging it and his signings won't be anywhere near good enough, this based on who he's kept, offering Mills when he's not really done anything for example.

I could go on but I think that's enough for starters. A very concerned fan.

I can see your concerns WP but I think you are jumping the gun judging him before we even know who he is going to sign . 
Like myself you mentioned a few times JLwas about 3/4 players short of a good team , all retained players are Lee players .
As for GD signings all have gone with very few complaints from fans . On that basis I can see nothing to recommend Drury .
Looking at the record of Drury during his stay he made us real candidates for relegation .
I was wrong about Lee and about his team. The first team was short of about 6 players and the squad much more. I'm complaining about Drury players being released and I'm a fan. I'd take the 2 CB's released over the 2 retained any day. Greene and Lee's records would have put us 10th and 11th respectively, not nearly good enough. Drury would have got rid of more of the average players than Greene has, this squad is too comfy in mid-table and Greene seems similar.

I like Tom Ward he looked a real prospect when he came, but he's gone backwards and has been at fault for so many of our goals it's untrue. Any manager who can keep Tom over Jase Field, who's 3 years younger and much better in his position already, ditto Lister, I don't have any faith in his ability to sign the right players.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: BosLeake on May 01, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
Think Ward must have got a round of drinks in Woad last night LoL
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Post by: green hats mate on May 01, 2013, 10:01:55 PM
Losing confidence in Greene with every passing day. First he comes out and says we're aiming for 7th or 8th, totally underselling a club of our size in this league.

Next he comes out and says he's signed the best keeper in non league, unless he's signing a full time pro from Conf Prem then I suggest he should have said the best keeper at this level or below. And if it had been Graham Drury had said this he would have been crucified on here, because it's likable Dennis Greene nobody bats an eyelid.

He then fails to tell either of his keepers they are not being retained, lacks professionalism, class and again if done by Graham Drury would have taken some stick on here.

The retained list, Ward and Stainsfield? Take it we're looking to not keep many clean sheets this season. Even if they're squad players they'll have to fill in at some point due to injuries, suspensions, unavailability. Whilst on this point, 3 signed + 7 offered + 6 DG says he needs =16 - Ward out on loan, Reed who he says is one for the future leaves 14. So we have 11 + 3 for the bench first team players. The rest of the bench will have to be made of those 2 plus youths/reserves. Not many game changes and that's without injuries etc. I hope he's going to sign more than he says or else we're going to have times where we struggle to put 11 first teamers out...

For all the sh*t Drury got on here, he instilled me with more confidence that Greene is at the moment. Really not looking forward to next season, get the feeling Greene is blagging it and his signings won't be anywhere near good enough, this based on who he's kept, offering Mills when he's not really done anything for example.

I could go on but I think that's enough for starters. A very concerned fan.

I can see your concerns WP but I think you are jumping the gun judging him before we even know who he is going to sign . 
Like myself you mentioned a few times JLwas about 3/4 players short of a good team , all retained players are Lee players .
As for GD signings all have gone with very few complaints from fans . On that basis I can see nothing to recommend Drury .
Looking at the record of Drury during his stay he made us real candidates for relegation .
I was wrong about Lee and about his team. The first team was short of about 6 players and the squad much more. I'm complaining about Drury players being released and I'm a fan. I'd take the 2 CB's released over the 2 retained any day. Greene and Lee's records would have put us 10th and 11th respectively, not nearly good enough. Drury would have got rid of more of the average players than Greene has, this squad is too comfy in mid-table and Greene seems similar.

I like Tom Ward he looked a real prospect when he came, but he's gone backwards and has been at fault for so many of our goals it's untrue. Any manager who can keep Tom over Jase Field, who's 3 years younger and much better in his position already, ditto Lister, I don't have any faith in his ability to sign the right players.

Agree JL and Greenes results pointed to mid-table finish ,  preferred by most fans to Drurys projected relegation position . 
Drury did get rid of a few average players only to replace them with poor players .
Title: Re: D G
Post by: The Big M on May 01, 2013, 10:11:34 PM
Agree with wo on ward everytime the ball goes.near him my heart misses a beat. I also thought lister looked better. Same goes for stainfield. I will still reserve judgement he may be keeping enough budget to fund more players
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Pilgrim86 on May 01, 2013, 10:14:34 PM
Maybe Wardy is that target man we're after...
Title: Re: D G
Post by: truffleshuffle on May 01, 2013, 10:15:45 PM
Agree with wo on ward everytime the ball goes.near him my heart misses a beat. I also thought lister looked better. Same goes for stainfield. I will still reserve judgement he may be keeping enough budget to fund more players

Agreed I'm not too sure on our defensive players offered deals but Lister has suffered with injuries since he's been with us and Watt was not the answer either IMO
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 01, 2013, 10:21:02 PM
Agree JL and Greenes results pointed to mid-table finish ,  preferred by most fans to Drurys projected relegation position . 
Drury did get rid of a few average players only to replace them with poor players .
In your opinion. Mine? Watt and Lister better than Ward and Stainsfield. Field better than Jelly (as was Mayo).

Foster we had no player of that ilk to compare against - defensive midfielder. But from the departure of Wilson it was obvious we needed someone like him which JL never addressed. I would say he was a success (but correct decision to let go as there are better players that can do that job)

Walker poor and worse than Silk, I'll give you that one. Smith, had good and bad games like all wingers - seems he was vilified for it more than others. Was better than Stokes but worse than Kallum Smith. Spriggs was a waste of space I'll give you that too.

So IMO about a 50/50 split.

As far as Drury's concerned? Personally I think Drury would have turned it round but we'll never know now.

Anway I will support whoever wears the shirt and the manager, it's nothing personal against any players retained just think the squad as a whole have had long enough to prove themselves here and perhaps it's time for some to find a new challenge. But this is the place to voice opinions and concerned and I'm very concerned. In the immortal words of N40's - prove me wrong  :)
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on May 01, 2013, 10:25:23 PM
Agree with wo on ward everytime the ball goes.near him my heart misses a beat. I also thought lister looked better. Same goes for stainfield. I will still reserve judgement he may be keeping enough budget to fund more players

Agreed I'm not too sure on our defensive players offered deals but Lister has suffered with injuries since he's been with us and Watt was not the answer either IMO

I thought you rated Watt  :o
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Pilgrim86 on May 01, 2013, 10:26:53 PM
Jordan Smith obviously not coming back?
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on May 01, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
Jordan Smith obviously not coming back?

He was heading back, but he got his head down, didn't look up and went straight past.
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Post by: green hats mate on May 01, 2013, 10:34:56 PM
Jordan Smith obviously not coming back?

He was heading back, but he got his head down, didn't look up and went straight past.

What you would expect from a player unable to get a place in a struggling UNIBOND side .
Title: Re: D G
Post by: swineshead pilgrim! on May 01, 2013, 11:34:27 PM
I think we have to wait until Greene brings in his own centre backs to judge on our defence, but i do agree that lister should of been given another chance once completely injury free.

I liked Watt but for me he was far to inconsistent to be our regular centre back, i think ward is worth keeping but like DG has said he needs to go out on loan and play every week to show if he is good enough, not just fill in here and there.

As for people saying about jase field, i dont understand why he would need to be kept, yes this season he looked better than jells but is it jase fields standard we are looking to settle with at left back? If we are going to challenge for the play offs we need a bit of quality at rb and lb, just look at brackleys left back on saturday, he was a threat going forward and was solid at the back. Thats the sort of player we need at boston to play full back.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: miele on May 02, 2013, 06:32:31 AM
Yes GHM I will second that part about relegation, when I was looking at the league how it finished at the weekend I think we would have been fighting with Corby and Histon to stay up under Drury.
when DRURY left it was his team that won us the next 3 games,9 points that kept us up.
I dont think GREENE was in totall controll at the time.
had GREENE been in charge would it have been 1 win in 10 I wonder.(relegation me thinks) ;) ;)
we all no the team had been chosen befor he arrived so who chose it??
Title: Re: D G
Post by: miele on May 02, 2013, 07:47:38 AM
I think we have to wait until Greene brings in his own centre backs to judge on our defence, but i do agree that lister should of been given another chance once completely injury free.



As for people saying about jase field, i dont understand why he would need to be kept, yes this season he looked better than jells but is it jase fields standard we are looking to settle with at left back? If we are going to challenge for the play offs we need a bit of quality at rb and lb, just look at brackleys left back on saturday, he was a threat going forward and was solid at the back. Thats the sort of player we need at boston to play full back.
CANT get my head round this one,  I myself rated JELLS as did many others.
FIELD came back to cover for JELLS and i thought did a good job.
you say FIELD looked better than JELLS, but why would we need to keep him.
IF you see promiss in a player would you not wont to keep him,
JASON has been understoody to JELLS since SCOT and HURST days,so to hear someone say he his playing better than JELLS, ( means he has progressed for sure) ;) ;)
Title: Re: D G
Post by: B Grimes on May 02, 2013, 08:45:19 AM
Losing confidence in Greene with every passing day. First he comes out and says we're aiming for 7th or 8th, totally underselling a club of our size in this league.

Next he comes out and says he's signed the best keeper in non league, unless he's signing a full time pro from Conf Prem then I suggest he should have said the best keeper at this level or below. And if it had been Graham Drury had said this he would have been crucified on here, because it's likable Dennis Greene nobody bats an eyelid.

He then fails to tell either of his keepers they are not being retained, lacks professionalism, class and again if done by Graham Drury would have taken some stick on here.

The retained list, Ward and Stainsfield? Take it we're looking to not keep many clean sheets this season. Even if they're squad players they'll have to fill in at some point due to injuries, suspensions, unavailability. Whilst on this point, 3 signed + 7 offered + 6 DG says he needs =16 - Ward out on loan, Reed who he says is one for the future leaves 14. So we have 11 + 3 for the bench first team players. The rest of the bench will have to be made of those 2 plus youths/reserves. Not many game changes and that's without injuries etc. I hope he's going to sign more than he says or else we're going to have times where we struggle to put 11 first teamers out...

For all the sh*t Drury got on here, he instilled me with more confidence that Greene is at the moment. Really not looking forward to next season, get the feeling Greene is blagging it and his signings won't be anywhere near good enough, this based on who he's kept, offering Mills when he's not really done anything for example.

I could go on but I think that's enough for starters. A very concerned fan.

I can see your concerns WP but I think you are jumping the gun judging him before we even know who he is going to sign . 
Like myself you mentioned a few times JLwas about 3/4 players short of a good team , all retained players are Lee players .
As for GD signings all have gone with very few complaints from fans . On that basis I can see nothing to recommend Drury .
Looking at the record of Drury during his stay he made us real candidates for relegation .
I was wrong about Lee and about his team. The first team was short of about 6 players and the squad much more. I'm complaining about Drury players being released and I'm a fan. I'd take the 2 CB's released over the 2 retained any day. Greene and Lee's records would have put us 10th and 11th respectively, not nearly good enough. Drury would have got rid of more of the average players than Greene has, this squad is too comfy in mid-table and Greene seems similar.

I like Tom Ward he looked a real prospect when he came, but he's gone backwards and has been at fault for so many of our goals it's untrue. Any manager who can keep Tom over Jase Field, who's 3 years younger and much better in his position already, ditto Lister, I don't have any faith in his ability to sign the right players.

Agree JL and Greenes results pointed to mid-table finish ,  preferred by most fans to Drurys projected relegation position . 
Drury did get rid of a few average players only to replace them with poor players .

As one who has always and publicly disapproved of DG's appointment, and I pray I am proved wrong, and if so, will be delighted to chain eat slices of humble pie, unlike Drury if he ultimately fails it will be a lot worse than Drury's struggles, as unlike the latter, he has now got the whole pre season to assemble a squad of his choosing so from that perspective there can be no excuses.

We can speculate all we like, and it would appear, reading this thread, many still enjoy doing so over whether Drury would have got us relegated or not (for me such a suggestion was total madness, it would never have happened, the were too many poor sides) but one thing is for sure come this time of year, he would have released the vast majority of the squad, a squad do we need reminding that has now under performed for three different managers!

Sure Drury's signings hardly inspired or excited anyone, certainly didn't me, but in his defence, trying to bring players into a badly under performing side, half way through a season and to a club, albeit with great in fact brilliant support, but not exactly the easiest place to get to was always going to be hard, and why I would imagine so many players turned down his approaches

Some of the reasons I didn't want, and in truth still don't want DG to rule our club, even though as he does, I will fully support him, is highlighted by some of these comments, and worse treatment to some of the existing squad, which actually leaves a little nasty taste. Surely they deserve better

I will wait and see who he bring to the club before moaning any more, but lets not forget, a deal offered is not the same as a deal accepted. So we start with three, with the likelihood of maybe another four or five which means eight or ten more to follow and if we aren't all going to have to endure yet another season of mediocrity these eight or ten have to be better than those who walk away. Lets hope they are 
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Maxross on May 02, 2013, 09:19:37 AM
I have to say, I find it bizarre how anyone can moan before he's even made a signing.  I don't even think we will have to wait long as he has stated in the local press he wants to get his signings done quickly, ideally this week.  I sympathise with the players who found out through the press that they were being released.  However, I've heard these types of stories time and again so its not uncommon.

Of the players released, the only one I was really disappointed with was Field.  I think he did well enough to get a chance and clearly has potential.  He's still young and I'm confident with games could have become a really good player at this level.  Young players need games if they are going to develop and I think this is an ongoing problem at the club. 

I know some are unhappy about Ward and Stainfield being kept, but I'd imagine they are on low wages and thus worth giving a chance.  I think releasing most of the defence and G/K is addressing a problem we've had throughout the past few seasons since Pearson etc left.  It'd been obvious we've conceded far too many goals and soft goals, which has cost us so many games this season.  I mean, we scored 3 goals against a side in the play-offs last saturday at home and STILL lost!  My interpretation is that Greene is planning to get a solid, commanding g/k and a decent pair of centre backs.  He has also said he want a holding midfielder/ball winner and a target man.  It sounds like he wants to strengthen the spine of the team. If he gets this right, alongside the players we have retained we can be more consistent as well as beating some of the top sides, as we have already proved last season.

Time will tell, but I hope we can get behind the team this year as every summer we seem to be on the teams back, usually before they've even kicked a ball in pre season training!  This year before we even signed a player 5 days after the season has finished!
Title: Re: D G
Post by: shinnster on May 02, 2013, 12:35:07 PM
 Just seen Butcher at York Street
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Crazy Neil on May 02, 2013, 01:11:19 PM
Just seen Butcher at York Street

Dunmore's have been involved with the club for years :D
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 02, 2013, 01:29:28 PM
Taken from here:

http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?pid=507690#p507690 (http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?pid=507690#p507690)

Quote from: Histon Fan
For the first half of the season we had a manager who brought in players for a game on non-contract terms, then got rid of them and signed another 5 players to play in the next game while leaving the squad that had played last season on the bench or not on the teamsheet.
To pick a random game (3-1 loss V Harrogate in September), 8 of the 14 that played were not at the club come January 2013, and I can safely say 7 of those only played 5 games or less for the club before Greene released them to sign more useless players. Go to a game at the end of September, there are 6 different players in the squad. I didn't recognise half the players playing from one game to the next from all the changes he made, and that was the same throughout his tenure at the club. It wasn't a case in unavailability, it was a case of Greene being completely clueless. Greene signed 25 players in his 6 months at the club, of which none are here any more (only 1 of his 26 signings was kept)... all the rest weren't good enough and released either by our current manager or by Greene... 8 of whom after only making 3 or fewer appearances for the club. And when we play with the squad that was here last season? As I've shown from our results in our final 21 games, top 10.

Makes Drury's time at our club like a bowl of cherries. Notice Greene has already said his new signings will be non-contract in case they don't work out (post Gainsborough). Think we need to ready ourselves for lots of player movement in and out next season...
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 02, 2013, 01:31:07 PM
I think we have to wait until Greene brings in his own centre backs to judge on our defence, but i do agree that lister should of been given another chance once completely injury free.

I liked Watt but for me he was far to inconsistent to be our regular centre back, i think ward is worth keeping but like DG has said he needs to go out on loan and play every week to show if he is good enough, not just fill in here and there.

As for people saying about jase field, i dont understand why he would need to be kept, yes this season he looked better than jells but is it jase fields standard we are looking to settle with at left back? If we are going to challenge for the play offs we need a bit of quality at rb and lb, just look at brackleys left back on saturday, he was a threat going forward and was solid at the back. Thats the sort of player we need at boston to play full back.
But it's already been stated play-offs aren't the aim, 7th/8th is.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 02, 2013, 01:49:51 PM
http://www.huntspost.co.uk/sport/football/greene_draws_inspiration_from_martin_o_neill_1_929284 (http://www.huntspost.co.uk/sport/football/greene_draws_inspiration_from_martin_o_neill_1_929284)

Quote from: huntspost
Greene played for Windsor & Eton on his return to England and, after quitting playing at 37, took over as manager at then Ryman Division One outfit Windsor in 2001/02.

He guided the club to the quarter-finals of the FA Trophy in 2002/03 – losing out to Aylesbury United on penalties – before jumping ship to join then-Conference South Maidenhead four months into the 2004/05 season.

But things quickly turned sour, as Greene explained: “I’d cut my teeth in management and, having had a decent amount of success at Windsor, I felt it was time to move on.

“I went to see the chairman of Maidenhead, who gave me this vision about going full-time and a new stadium for the club.

“But, after four months, I found out the club were actually £180,000 in debt, weren’t moving to a new stadium and I’d be losing all my players and my budget was being cut from £3,500 to £1,000 a week.

“There was now no money at the club. £1,000 a week is equivalent to S&L Corby at St Neots’ level last year and you can’t pay players £40 a week in the Conference South and expect to win football matches.”

Greene was sacked by Maidenhead seven games into the 2005/06 season – having kept them up against the odds on the final day the season before – but was back in management three months later, at Southern Premier outfit Chesham.

However, he was again let down by broken promises and was sacked shortly after taking over.

In 2007, Greene dropped everything and moved his family out to Spain to run a Charlton Athletic youth academy in Alicante, but returned two years later when funding dried up due to the Addicks’ relegation from the Premier League.

A short stint at Ryman Division One North outfit Ware followed before taking over at Southern Premier side Hemel Hempstead Town, who he guided to the play-off semi-finals in 2008/09, losing out to Farnborough on penalties.

Greene left Hemel by mutual consent shortly into the 2009/10 campaign, following a disagreement with his chairman over a player and joined St Neots as Steve Lomas’ number two just before the turn of the year.

The rest, they say, is history.
So his mangerial career:
Windsor 01/05 3 and a half years - left
Maidenhead 05/06 less than a year (over 2 seasons) - sacked and complaints of low budget
Chesham 05/06 less than a year - sacked - complaint of broken promises (budget again?)
Charlton Youth Academy 06/08 2 years - lack of funding so left
Ware 08/09 - Less than a season - departure unknown reason
Hemel 08/10 - left do to disagreement

Since then:

St Neots - 10/12 - 2 seasons - left do to disagreement
Histon 12/13 - less than a season - left due to lack of money/disagreement

Had moderate success at Windsor and Hemel (as seen in the link). Had great success at St Neots but funded way beyond the levels they were at. Notice the amount of clubs and a large majority have been left due to disagreements/lack of resources or being sacked. Not a great CV...
Title: Re: D G
Post by: The Big M on May 02, 2013, 01:55:22 PM
your not convinced then woad  ;)
Title: Re: D G
Post by: noughtyforties on May 02, 2013, 02:05:18 PM
I'm pleased you've said that WP, I thought it was just me and BG who had reservations.........

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt though and see how things pan out when we have HIS team in place next August.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: miele on May 02, 2013, 03:03:00 PM
I'm pleased you've said that WP, I thought it was just me and BG who had reservations.........

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt though and see how things pan out when we have HIS team in place next August.
I said all along this man looked shifty,  I have been waiting to see who he would bring in as is assistant, he seems not to know anyone.
I smell a personality problem hear,it seems no one as followed him anywere be it player or staff.
I think B Grimes is not letting on all he knows.
players had to go.   we all no that but its the way he's gone about it, dont seem the way to me.
any way good luck to all players going and all who come in :) :)
Title: Re: D G
Post by: howmanynames2pick on May 02, 2013, 03:14:21 PM
Just seen Butcher at York Street

Dunmore's have been involved with the club for years :D
lol
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Maxross on May 02, 2013, 03:49:59 PM
I think I'll reserve my judgement until I see what calibre of players he signs and how the team gels over the first 10 matches.  I'm not particularly interested in his past now he's here, just the here and now and what he does in the future.  I'm sure if my current employer could have googled my entire career along with comments from those I worked with, they would have been able to find a reason to not employ me.  I'm not bothered if he "looks shifty", doesn't have any mates or if his eyes are too close together, I'm just bothered about what he does now.

What I would really like to see this season is for us to build from the back.  If we can get a couple of solid centre backs in and a commanding keeper, that will be worth a good few points to us before we even think about scoring goals. If you dont concede, you don't lose.  I feel fairly confident we can score the necessary goals against most teams in this division.

A few stats:

We scored against every team in the top 5
We Beat 3 out of the top 5 at least once
Joint 8th Highest scorers in the division along with Gainsborough
Joint 15th on Goals conceded (approx twice as many as Chester and Halifax)
Average goals scored 1.6 per game
Average goals conceded 1.7

The defence has been poor now for the past two seasons and in my opinion this was Jason Lee's biggest error.  If you have a strong defence it leads to consistency which we have lacked all year.  If you are playing badly, but don't concede, you can come into the game and nick a goal late on.  This is the main strength of all the best sides, you can't expect to perform well every week but with a strong defence, you pick up results even when playing badly.

Edit

Extra Stats:

5/10 games we scored 2 goals or more against top 5 opposition
Losing margin only greater than 1 goal on 2/10 occasions (Guisely Home and Altrincham Away)
Title: Re: D G
Post by: B Grimes on May 02, 2013, 04:01:01 PM
I'm pleased you've said that WP, I thought it was just me and BG who had reservations.........

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt though and see how things pan out when we have HIS team in place next August.
I said all along this man looked shifty,  I have been waiting to see who he would bring in as is assistant, he seems not to know anyone.
I smell a personality problem hear,it seems no one as followed him anywere be it player or staff.
I think B Grimes is not letting on all he knows.
players had to go.   we all no that but its the way he's gone about it, dont seem the way to me.
any way good luck to all players going and all who come in :) :)

Look the only thing I do know is that wherever he has been there have been 'issues of one type or another', none of which ever appear to be of his doing, and I simply don't subscribe to the thought that there can be a lot of smoke without any fires, nor indeed in the pattern of departures being 'just coincidence!

I have two friends who go to St Neot's every week who suggested he's arrogant, very dismissive of players and supprters who question him, and vocally very loud and rude.

'Allegedly' he offered his resignation after two successful years there after a reduction of the budget, but a budget none the less that was probably the biggest budget outside the conference (£10-£15K transfer fee spent on Stefan Moore whilst in the UCL...wow!) and he apparently expected the chairman to say 'no we need you'. Much apparently to DG's amazement, that didn't happen and the chairman happily accepted it.

Drury spun a very good tale and at times his words looked daft, but a a long standing supporter what I want our manager to say, is that I hope to sign 5,6 players on contract very shortly because I know they will be great for Boston next year, not.......... all the players that I sign will be of the non contracted variety in case they don't cut it!

My advice to that, simple as it may be, is if there is any doubt, don't sign them in the first place!

Maybe because I am older than most, but my philosophy is also to treat people respectfully and that's how then people will treat you. It remains to be seen what we will all think come October and I genuinely hope that Noughtyforties and I have to swallow hard when that humble pie is presented to us

I support the club first and foremost, the team second, and the manager then third. Not my choice is DG, but as manager, someone who I currently give total support to. Cant be fairer than that can I?
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Maxross on May 02, 2013, 04:15:31 PM
Very Good points Mr Grimes, always enjoy reading your posts.  I too have heard the accusations of arrogance and read an article recently that Greene sent unpleasant texts to the Histon manager after he left.  I also agree that a bit of common decency when dealing with individuals goes a long way.  But us Boston fans have to decide what we want, people were moaning that Jason Lee was too nice to be a manager last season and signed too many on contract, Graham Drury was only interested in signing mates and wanted to get rid of too many players and now Greene is too arogant and hasn't got enough mates and isn't signing enough on contract!  We're all experts here! I'd just like to see us for once get behind a manager.

I think maybe Mr Greene should take some of these comments on board (I'm sure from what I've read that he will be looking at this board) and realise we as Boston fans expect a certain level of professionalism and that we expect good calibre signings and success. Excuses about the budget etc won't be tolerated.  In return we need to get behind him, as realistically, what are we going to do, sack ANOTHER manager based on a few things we dont like?!!  Nobodies perfect and the sooner us Boston fans realise that the sooner we can start moving forwards.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: B Grimes on May 02, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
I think I'll reserve my judgement until I see what calibre of players he signs and how the team gels over the first 10 matches.  I'm not particularly interested in his past now he's here, just the here and now and what he does in the future.  I'm sure if my current employer could have googled my entire career along with comments from those I worked with, they would have been able to find a reason to not employ me.  I'm not bothered if he "looks shifty", doesn't have any mates or if his eyes are too close together, I'm just bothered about what he does now.

What I would really like to see this season is for us to build from the back.  If we can get a couple of solid centre backs in and a commanding keeper, that will be worth a good few points to us before we even think about scoring goals. If you dont concede, you don't lose.  I feel fairly confident we can score the necessary goals against most teams in this division.

A few stats:

We scored against every team in the top 5
We Beat 3 out of the top 5 at least once
Joint 8th Highest scorers in the division along with Gainsborough
Joint 15th on Goals conceded (approx twice as many as Chester and Halifax)
Average goals scored 1.6 per game
Average goals conceded 1.7

The defence has been poor now for the past two seasons and in my opinion this was Jason Lee's biggest error.  If you have a strong defence it leads to consistency which we have lacked all year.  If you are playing badly, but don't concede, you can come into the game and nick a goal late on.  This is the main strength of all the best sides, you can't expect to perform well every week but with a strong defence, you pick up results even when playing badly.

Edit

Extra Stats:

5/10 games we scored 2 goals or more against top 5 opposition
Losing margin only greater than 1 goal on 2/10 occasions (Guisely Home and Altrincham Away)

Aren't stats just wonderful  ;D

Here's another one, and please correct me if I am wrong, this is just off the top of my head. Apart from the first three games DG was in charge, which after the dross we had watched before that was probably the highlight of our season, we have played I think it's seven games of which we collected just five points and three of those came against the whipping boys of Hinkley!

If Newton in whom we all trust had known that, what would have the odds been for DG given the job permanently? Especially as you could argue those firs three games, someone else possibly suggested the line up, and the element of new manager syndrome has to be added as well.

I just hope I am wrong, but i'm sorry, apart from the euphoria we all felt with those three wins and more those three clean sheets, all I am saying without hopefully being in anyway negative, is that as yet I am not a disciple.

I don't need DG to walk on water nor turn it into Fosters ( though that would certainly be enough for me ;D )  but I do expect to be excited by all these imminent signings and also 'hope' that come the end of September we would be sitting somewhere near the top six
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Tash on May 02, 2013, 04:29:35 PM
Very Good points Mr Grimes, always enjoy reading your posts.  I too have heard the accusations of arrogance and read an article recently that Greene sent unpleasant texts to the Histon manager after he left.  I also agree that a bit of common decency when dealing with individuals goes a long way.  But us Boston fans have to decide what we want, people were moaning that Jason Lee was too nice to be a manager last season and signed too many on contract, Graham Drury was only interested in signing mates and wanted to get rid of too many players and now Greene is too arogant and hasn't got enough mates and isn't signing enough on contract!  We're all experts here! I'd just like to see us for once get behind a manager.

I think maybe Mr Greene should take some of these comments on board (I'm sure from what I've read that he will be looking at this board) and realise we as Boston fans expect a certain level of professionalism and that we expect good calibre signings and success. Excuses about the budget etc won't be tolerated.  In return we need to get behind him, as realistically, what are we going to do, sack ANOTHER manager based on a few things we dont like?!!  Nobodies perfect and the sooner us Boston fans realise that the sooner we can start moving forwards.

Quality post Max.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Maxross on May 02, 2013, 04:39:20 PM
I can't disagree with the negative Greene stats, my stats weren't intended to strengthen Greene's position, more the need to strengthen the defence. 

I can honestly say out of all of our managerial appointments in the past couple of seasons since Scott and Hurst left, I've not really been inspired by any, particularly in the case of Drury and Greene.  The point is though, they were appointed and its my opinion that we've got to get behind them and at the very least give them the opportunity to prove themselves.  We all have different opinions but I think what unites us all (or should do) is the desire for Boston to be succesful.  I find all this nit picking every single summer on every single manager completely counter productive to us being succesful. Can anybody suggest how all this will contribute to a succesful season?

I also think its sad that football talk always gets drowned out by talk of whether or not any of us approve of the current manager of the day.  Even though Scoot and Hurst were eventually succesful, people even grumbled about them in the early days.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say Scott was pretty arrogant and didn't they fall out with their old chairman?

I've got no problem with critiscm of managers, but its become an obsession on this forum now and I think this club is almost becoming unmanagable.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: green hats mate on May 02, 2013, 04:47:52 PM
I can't disagree with the negative Greene stats, my stats weren't intended to strengthen Greene's position, more the need to strengthen the defence. 

I can honestly say out of all of our managerial appointments in the past couple of seasons since Scott and Hurst left, I've not really been inspired by any, particularly in the case of Drury and Greene.  The point is though, they were appointed and its my opinion that we've got to get behind them and at the very least give them the opportunity to prove themselves.  We all have different opinions but I think what unites us all (or should do) is the desire for Boston to be succesful.  I find all this nit picking every single summer on every single manager completely counter productive to us being succesful. Can anybody suggest how all this will contribute to a succesful season?

I also think its sad that football talk always gets drowned out by talk of whether or not any of us approve of the current manager of the day.  Even though Scoot and Hurst were eventually succesful, people even grumbled about them in the early days.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say Scott was pretty arrogant and didn't they fall out with their old chairman?

I've got no problem with critiscm of managers, but its become an obsession on this forum now and I think this club is almost becoming unmanagable.

Can anyone find a statement in the above that can be contridicted ?   I can,t .

Let,s take all the above on board and get a life .
Title: Re: D G
Post by: B Grimes on May 02, 2013, 05:59:01 PM
I can't disagree with the negative Greene stats, my stats weren't intended to strengthen Greene's position, more the need to strengthen the defence. 

I can honestly say out of all of our managerial appointments in the past couple of seasons since Scott and Hurst left, I've not really been inspired by any, particularly in the case of Drury and Greene.  The point is though, they were appointed and its my opinion that we've got to get behind them and at the very least give them the opportunity to prove themselves.  We all have different opinions but I think what unites us all (or should do) is the desire for Boston to be succesful.  I find all this nit picking every single summer on every single manager completely counter productive to us being succesful. Can anybody suggest how all this will contribute to a succesful season?

I also think its sad that football talk always gets drowned out by talk of whether or not any of us approve of the current manager of the day.  Even though Scoot and Hurst were eventually succesful, people even grumbled about them in the early days.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say Scott was pretty arrogant and didn't they fall out with their old chairman?

I've got no problem with critiscm of managers, but its become an obsession on this forum now and I think this club is almost becoming unmanagable.

Apart from the obsession bit Max, which is surely too strong a word, perhaps replace it with diverse debate, which to me is always healthy if at times contentious, I totally agree with the comment and tone of your post mate
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 02, 2013, 06:11:28 PM
I can't disagree with the negative Greene stats, my stats weren't intended to strengthen Greene's position, more the need to strengthen the defence. 

I can honestly say out of all of our managerial appointments in the past couple of seasons since Scott and Hurst left, I've not really been inspired by any, particularly in the case of Drury and Greene.  The point is though, they were appointed and its my opinion that we've got to get behind them and at the very least give them the opportunity to prove themselves.  We all have different opinions but I think what unites us all (or should do) is the desire for Boston to be succesful.  I find all this nit picking every single summer on every single manager completely counter productive to us being succesful. Can anybody suggest how all this will contribute to a succesful season?

I also think its sad that football talk always gets drowned out by talk of whether or not any of us approve of the current manager of the day.  Even though Scoot and Hurst were eventually succesful, people even grumbled about them in the early days.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say Scott was pretty arrogant and didn't they fall out with their old chairman?

I've got no problem with critiscm of managers, but its become an obsession on this forum now and I think this club is almost becoming unmanagable.

Can anyone find a statement in the above that can be contridicted ?   I can,t .

Let,s take all the above on board and get a life .
Get a life! But you, along with others where happy enough to join in with the verbal assault by most on here of Graham Drury, some of it libelous in the comparison to a convicted fraudster. If it were me I would have sued the people drawing the comparisons. Didn't see Maxross trying to tell them to stop critisizing.

I can contradict, Maxross is talking about the forum as an individual thing, when it is in fact a collection of individuals with their own opinions. It's called freedom of speech and Maxross nor anyone else will tell me what to do, as long as I am not libelous or contradicting any of the rules on here or being abusive then he has no right.

For what its worth, I was behind Jase Lee right up until the 2 or 3 weeks before he was sacked, as you know. I defended him and the team, including during Summer recruitment. I defended the decision to keep almost all of the 11/12 season squad as I saw potential. Unfortunately they didn't fulfill that potential IMO so I now admin I was wrong about his team.

Drury I was behind right till the end and was disappointed when he was sacked. I defended him against almost total critism on here until I had enough of the rubbish being spouted so I stopped posting. I suggest Maxross does the same if he doesn't like what's being said.

So for the first time I am critisizing a manager, mainly down to keeping the 2 CB's who have conceded so many goals and have been the weak point in the team. He could have kept virtually anyone else and I wouldn't have had so much of a problem. And if that is what I think, that is what I'll say. Seems to me this forum's users have a pack mentality, if the majority agree then it must be right.

So I'll continue to say it how I see it, I will get behind the lads and the manager, like BG I'll eat as much humble pie as you like if I'm wrong. I hope for the clubs sake I am because I don't want another season like last.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: howmanynames2pick on May 02, 2013, 06:28:59 PM
just scan read a few of the previous posts.
Making me think twice about renewing my season ticket.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Shauneyg on May 02, 2013, 06:46:42 PM
We need to all stop looking at past record and other bits that are in the past. Lets get behind the club and give greene a chance to build a squad for next season.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: green hats mate on May 02, 2013, 07:02:06 PM
I can't disagree with the negative Greene stats, my stats weren't intended to strengthen Greene's position, more the need to strengthen the defence. 

I can honestly say out of all of our managerial appointments in the past couple of seasons since Scott and Hurst left, I've not really been inspired by any, particularly in the case of Drury and Greene.  The point is though, they were appointed and its my opinion that we've got to get behind them and at the very least give them the opportunity to prove themselves.  We all have different opinions but I think what unites us all (or should do) is the desire for Boston to be succesful.  I find all this nit picking every single summer on every single manager completely counter productive to us being succesful. Can anybody suggest how all this will contribute to a succesful season?

I also think its sad that football talk always gets drowned out by talk of whether or not any of us approve of the current manager of the day.  Even though Scoot and Hurst were eventually succesful, people even grumbled about them in the early days.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say Scott was pretty arrogant and didn't they fall out with their old chairman?

I've got no problem with critiscm of managers, but its become an obsession on this forum now and I think this club is almost becoming unmanagable.

Apart from the obsession bit Max, which is surely too strong a word, perhaps replace it with diverse debate, which to me is always healthy if at times contentious, I totally agree with the comment and tone of your post mate

Agree BG.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: howmanynames2pick on May 02, 2013, 07:56:41 PM
We need to all stop looking at past record and other bits that are in the past. Lets get behind the club and give greene a chance to build a squad for next season.
good post Shauney, poss proving you are not Graham Drurys love child :)
or is it a double bluff??????
(only kiddin :) )
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Oakham Pilgrim on May 02, 2013, 08:48:33 PM
Whilst making no assumptions about the current manager, I am frequently amazed by the way football lives in a vacuum from the real world, both financially and morally. Even in higher leagues (why do I bother to say 'higher'?) I often read about managers not speaking to players that they don't want, or didn't sign, or both, and/or consigning them to train with the reserves. If players were released by BUFC without being informed personally, then it is simply not good enough. I would not expect to be treated like that, and (in my job as a head of department in senior school) I would not expect to treat either staff or pupils in that manner. An excess of testosterone is no excuse to good manners.

I suppose I'm just a grumpy old dinosaur.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: chris47 on May 02, 2013, 08:59:44 PM
After reading this thread I remember why I do not bother visiting this forum frequently anymore.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: B Grimes on May 03, 2013, 07:06:47 AM
We need to all stop looking at past record and other bits that are in the past. Lets get behind the club and give greene a chance to build a squad for next season.

Shauney, you are slowly winning me over sir, but you are beginning to sound like a desparate Tory councillor trying to hold on to his seat in Lincolnshire.

I don't think there is a soul on here that does not wish, does not badly crave success for next season, and am sure everyone on here is fullysupportive of the new manager and the efforts he is hopefully putting in to building a challenging squad, but to simultaneously suggest we shouldn't look back and compare bits and pieces from the past, from a seemingly perennial bunch of under achievers is possibly naïve and futile

This is football, the real nectar of life, and unless comments get really nasty and personal, like to be fair they most certainly did when Mr Drury was here, much of which as WP suggests were at worse libellous and at best just down right nasty, surely the wish, the need, the compulsion to debate all aspects of the club supported, in this case Boston is profoundly important, its what makes us feel a part of the club which as you allude, moving forward is vital

If because of my support for the club, means, and let me tell you it does, having to serve up weekly cooked full English breakfasts for Mrs G as way of compliant penance when all I really want to do is watch the recording of MOTD then that in itself gives me the right to chat away on any football related subject I wish ;D
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Maxross on May 03, 2013, 08:47:05 AM
I can't disagree with the negative Greene stats, my stats weren't intended to strengthen Greene's position, more the need to strengthen the defence. 

I can honestly say out of all of our managerial appointments in the past couple of seasons since Scott and Hurst left, I've not really been inspired by any, particularly in the case of Drury and Greene.  The point is though, they were appointed and its my opinion that we've got to get behind them and at the very least give them the opportunity to prove themselves.  We all have different opinions but I think what unites us all (or should do) is the desire for Boston to be succesful.  I find all this nit picking every single summer on every single manager completely counter productive to us being succesful. Can anybody suggest how all this will contribute to a succesful season?

I also think its sad that football talk always gets drowned out by talk of whether or not any of us approve of the current manager of the day.  Even though Scoot and Hurst were eventually succesful, people even grumbled about them in the early days.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say Scott was pretty arrogant and didn't they fall out with their old chairman?

I've got no problem with critiscm of managers, but its become an obsession on this forum now and I think this club is almost becoming unmanagable.

Can anyone find a statement in the above that can be contridicted ?   I can,t .

Let,s take all the above on board and get a life .
Didn't see Maxross trying to tell them to stop critisizing.


Actually if you look back through my posts on the subject you will see that I did appeal to people to stop criticising Mr Drury, as I also did with Lee/Canoville and Lee and I dare say every other manager through the last 10 years I've been posting on here.  I'm pretty consistent on that in general, even if I'm not a particular fan of the manager.  I've always respected you Woad_Pilgrim and in general agree with the vast majority of your posts.  I'm not trying to subdue anybody's right to free speech either.  I'm simply trying to appeal to people to at least give the manager a chance before we start tearing him apart as we have done with the last three management teams.

The point I was trying to make was that its totally counter-productive in the aim of making this club succesful, which I assume is what we all want.  I'm sorry if that upsets anybody, but thats MY opinion which I am also allowed to have so I will not stop posting.  Where I see over negativity I simply try to provide some balance.

As for Howmanynamestopick and Chris47, I hope nothing I've posted has offended you.  The reason I posted was because when I saw all the negativity, it made my heart sink and I too thought my plans to buy a season ticket this year might have to be reviewed.  I also feel depressed that this forum spends most of its time devoted to getting at whoever happens to be the manager at the time, rather than talking about football matters. 
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Tash on May 03, 2013, 09:55:14 AM
I can't disagree with the negative Greene stats, my stats weren't intended to strengthen Greene's position, more the need to strengthen the defence. 

I can honestly say out of all of our managerial appointments in the past couple of seasons since Scott and Hurst left, I've not really been inspired by any, particularly in the case of Drury and Greene.  The point is though, they were appointed and its my opinion that we've got to get behind them and at the very least give them the opportunity to prove themselves.  We all have different opinions but I think what unites us all (or should do) is the desire for Boston to be succesful.  I find all this nit picking every single summer on every single manager completely counter productive to us being succesful. Can anybody suggest how all this will contribute to a succesful season?

I also think its sad that football talk always gets drowned out by talk of whether or not any of us approve of the current manager of the day.  Even though Scoot and Hurst were eventually succesful, people even grumbled about them in the early days.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say Scott was pretty arrogant and didn't they fall out with their old chairman?

I've got no problem with critiscm of managers, but its become an obsession on this forum now and I think this club is almost becoming unmanagable.

Can anyone find a statement in the above that can be contridicted ?   I can,t .

Let,s take all the above on board and get a life .
Didn't see Maxross trying to tell them to stop critisizing.


Actually if you look back through my posts on the subject you will see that I did appeal to people to stop criticising Mr Drury, as I also did with Lee/Canoville and Lee and I dare say every other manager through the last 10 years I've been posting on here.  I'm pretty consistent on that in general, even if I'm not a particular fan of the manager.  I've always respected you Woad_Pilgrim and in general agree with the vast majority of your posts.  I'm not trying to subdue anybody's right to free speech either.  I'm simply trying to appeal to people to at least give the manager a chance before we start tearing him apart as we have done with the last three management teams.

The point I was trying to make was that its totally counter-productive in the aim of making this club succesful, which I assume is what we all want.  I'm sorry if that upsets anybody, but thats MY opinion which I am also allowed to have so I will not stop posting.  Where I see over negativity I simply try to provide some balance.

As for Howmanynamestopick and Chris47, I hope nothing I've posted has offended you.  The reason I posted was because when I saw all the negativity, it made my heart sink and I too thought my plans to buy a season ticket this year might have to be reviewed.  I also feel depressed that this forum spends most of its time devoted to getting at whoever happens to be the manager at the time, rather than talking about football matters.

Don't let it grind you down Max. Go see John and Maureen and get that season ticket bought, got mine yesterday. Keep the faith UTP
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 03, 2013, 12:27:06 PM
Actually if you look back through my posts on the subject you will see that I did appeal to people to stop criticising Mr Drury, as I also did with Lee/Canoville and Lee and I dare say every other manager through the last 10 years I've been posting on here.  I'm pretty consistent on that in general, even if I'm not a particular fan of the manager.  I've always respected you Woad_Pilgrim and in general agree with the vast majority of your posts.  I'm not trying to subdue anybody's right to free speech either.  I'm simply trying to appeal to people to at least give the manager a chance before we start tearing him apart as we have done with the last three management teams.

The point I was trying to make was that its totally counter-productive in the aim of making this club succesful, which I assume is what we all want.  I'm sorry if that upsets anybody, but thats MY opinion which I am also allowed to have so I will not stop posting.  Where I see over negativity I simply try to provide some balance.

As for Howmanynamestopick and Chris47, I hope nothing I've posted has offended you.  The reason I posted was because when I saw all the negativity, it made my heart sink and I too thought my plans to buy a season ticket this year might have to be reviewed.  I also feel depressed that this forum spends most of its time devoted to getting at whoever happens to be the manager at the time, rather than talking about football matters.
To perfectly honest Maxross you got caught in the crossfire. I was frustrated with some of the players retained and the double standards on here of people, if it'd been other managers they'd have been slaughtered for who was kept. Let's just put it down to me having a bad day. If I hadn't have said something publicly on here as a protest I probably would have protested by not going next season, and as someone who has missed less than 20 games home and away in the last 10 seasons I don't think the club need to be losing that type of fan. I just felt the need to vent my frustration.

I do still have serious doubts but I've done that to death so won't say any more (about the manager, but will players signed) until Dennis has had a chance to sign some players and we've seen them play a few competitive games. Nobody knows the future, perhaps this is the club were Dennis will make his mark, perhaps Stainsfield and Ward will progress beyond all recognition, I sincerely hope so.

Edit: Meant to say wasn't telling you to stop posting on here, yours is one of the most balanced views more often than not backed up by facts, we need more like you.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Maxross on May 03, 2013, 03:30:54 PM
Actually if you look back through my posts on the subject you will see that I did appeal to people to stop criticising Mr Drury, as I also did with Lee/Canoville and Lee and I dare say every other manager through the last 10 years I've been posting on here.  I'm pretty consistent on that in general, even if I'm not a particular fan of the manager.  I've always respected you Woad_Pilgrim and in general agree with the vast majority of your posts.  I'm not trying to subdue anybody's right to free speech either.  I'm simply trying to appeal to people to at least give the manager a chance before we start tearing him apart as we have done with the last three management teams.

The point I was trying to make was that its totally counter-productive in the aim of making this club succesful, which I assume is what we all want.  I'm sorry if that upsets anybody, but thats MY opinion which I am also allowed to have so I will not stop posting.  Where I see over negativity I simply try to provide some balance.

As for Howmanynamestopick and Chris47, I hope nothing I've posted has offended you.  The reason I posted was because when I saw all the negativity, it made my heart sink and I too thought my plans to buy a season ticket this year might have to be reviewed.  I also feel depressed that this forum spends most of its time devoted to getting at whoever happens to be the manager at the time, rather than talking about football matters.
To perfectly honest Maxross you got caught in the crossfire. I was frustrated with some of the players retained and the double standards on here of people, if it'd been other managers they'd have been slaughtered for who was kept. Let's just put it down to me having a bad day. If I hadn't have said something publicly on here as a protest I probably would have protested by not going next season, and as someone who has missed less than 20 games home and away in the last 10 seasons I don't think the club need to be losing that type of fan. I just felt the need to vent my frustration.

I do still have serious doubts but I've done that to death so won't say any more (about the manager, but will players signed) until Dennis has had a chance to sign some players and we've seen them play a few competitive games. Nobody knows the future, perhaps this is the club were Dennis will make his mark, perhaps Stainsfield and Ward will progress beyond all recognition, I sincerely hope so.

Edit: Meant to say wasn't telling you to stop posting on here, yours is one of the most balanced views more often than not backed up by facts, we need more like you.

No harm done, we all have bad days and thank you for your kind comments, along with Tash.  I'm glad you vented yout frustrations here rather than not going next season, as I always enjoy reading your opinions and match reports.  I do take on board some of your comments about the manager. I also remember feeling similar irritation when Jason Lee left and some of those who never gave him a chance, appealed hard for Drury to be given a chance.  Personally I think once appointed, we should give all managers our support.  I believe true success is built on continuity, so I really don't like seeing managers being fired every few months.

I'm definitly going to purchase a season ticket this year, in great part thanks to the club bringing back the kids deal which is a real plus for me having three football mad boys.  I'd already told them, so I've got no chance of going back on it now!

I do think the debate on keeping Stainsfield and Ward is an interesting one.  I personally really like Stainsfield as a player, I take peoples points, his distribution is poor and he's never going to be a classy centre back who can play it out from the back.  However he is very strong in the air provides a major physical presence and is a true battler, the sort of guy you'd want in the trenches with you.  I think you need a few players with those qualities in this league, especially against the sides with a pair of hoof monster at the back and a giant battering ram up front.  He's also weighed in with a few goals, providing an aerial threat at set pieces, and played in some of our big wins.  I think if you put him alongside an experienced centre back for a season he'd come on leaps and bounds.  He also proved he could do a job as a holding midfielder. I think he's worth keeping as a squad player at least, especially if he's not on big money.

In the case of Ward, he hasn't stood out as much for me this season as last and perhaps a loan spell would be good for him to get his confidence back.  In both cases I think you could argue that we've asked a lot of them this season throwing two young centre backs with very little experience together and expecting them to perform like pro's week in week out.  I think its the sort of position in a side where you really do need some experience.  You can't make mistakes back there without being punished.  Time will tell I guess.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Bostonshire on May 03, 2013, 07:39:29 PM
True about ward but he don't cost much so can become a good back up why gaining more experience at a low cost
Title: Re: D G
Post by: green hats mate on May 03, 2013, 07:51:42 PM
I can't disagree with the negative Greene stats, my stats weren't intended to strengthen Greene's position, more the need to strengthen the defence. 

I can honestly say out of all of our managerial appointments in the past couple of seasons since Scott and Hurst left, I've not really been inspired by any, particularly in the case of Drury and Greene.  The point is though, they were appointed and its my opinion that we've got to get behind them and at the very least give them the opportunity to prove themselves.  We all have different opinions but I think what unites us all (or should do) is the desire for Boston to be succesful.  I find all this nit picking every single summer on every single manager completely counter productive to us being succesful. Can anybody suggest how all this will contribute to a succesful season?

I also think its sad that football talk always gets drowned out by talk of whether or not any of us approve of the current manager of the day.  Even though Scoot and Hurst were eventually succesful, people even grumbled about them in the early days.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say Scott was pretty arrogant and didn't they fall out with their old chairman?

I've got no problem with critiscm of managers, but its become an obsession on this forum now and I think this club is almost becoming unmanagable.

Can anyone find a statement in the above that can be contridicted ?   I can,t .

Let,s take all the above on board and get a life .
Get a life! But you, along with others where happy enough to join in with the verbal assault by most on here of Graham Drury, some of it libelous in the comparison to a convicted fraudster. If it were me I would have sued the people drawing the comparisons. Didn't see Maxross trying to tell them to stop critisizing.

I can contradict, Maxross is talking about the forum as an individual thing, when it is in fact a collection of individuals with their own opinions. It's called freedom of speech and Maxross nor anyone else will tell me what to do, as long as I am not libelous or contradicting any of the rules on here or being abusive then he has no right.

For what its worth, I was behind Jase Lee right up until the 2 or 3 weeks before he was sacked, as you know. I defended him and the team, including during Summer recruitment. I defended the decision to keep almost all of the 11/12 season squad as I saw potential. Unfortunately they didn't fulfill that potential IMO so I now admin I was wrong about his team.

Drury I was behind right till the end and was disappointed when he was sacked. I defended him against almost total critism on here until I had enough of the rubbish being spouted so I stopped posting. I suggest Maxross does the same if he doesn't like what's being said.

So for the first time I am critisizing a manager, mainly down to keeping the 2 CB's who have conceded so many goals and have been the weak point in the team. He could have kept virtually anyone else and I wouldn't have had so much of a problem. And if that is what I think, that is what I'll say. Seems to me this forum's users have a pack mentality, if the majority agree then it must be right.

So I'll continue to say it how I see it, I will get behind the lads and the manager, like BG I'll eat as much humble pie as you like if I'm wrong. I hope for the clubs sake I am because I don't want another season like last.

Just to put the record straigt WP I did back the manager from the start as at the time  I would have picked him in front of Greene .  From the off I was disapointed with his PR but was prepared to tolerate that .    It was after his first 4/5 signings and his inability to attract players from lower leagues that I formed the opinion rightly or wrongly he was not the man for the job .
I do not participate in verbal assualt on the forum or the Spayne Rd terrace unless you consider "bullshit " verbal assault , considering his time on construction sites I can  assure you that comment would be water of a ducks back to Graham .
To the best of my intentions I do not do" libelous "  ,  if you were referring to my posts can you please point out where it appears .
Hope we have a better season so I can look forward to away match reports again .
Title: Re: D G
Post by: green hats mate on May 03, 2013, 07:54:47 PM
According to Craigs twitter a new signing in this weekend .
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Shauneyg on May 03, 2013, 08:12:12 PM
Ashley timms new goalkeeper. Heard it here first.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 03, 2013, 08:28:01 PM
Just to put the record straigt WP I did back the manager from the start as at the time  I would have picked him in front of Greene .  From the off I was disapointed with his PR but was prepared to tolerate that .    It was after his first 4/5 signings and his inability to attract players from lower leagues that I formed the opinion rightly or wrongly he was not the man for the job .
I do not participate in verbal assualt on the forum or the Spayne Rd terrace unless you consider "bullshit " verbal assault , considering his time on construction sites I can  assure you that comment would be water of a ducks back to Graham .
To the best of my intentions I do not do" libelous "  ,  if you were referring to my posts can you please point out where it appears .
Hope we have a better season so I can look forward to away match reports again .
Cannot remember who said it, think there may have been more than one, but Drury was compared to Evans, it was inferred that GD would do the same if DN didn't run such a tight ship (commit fraud). That is libelous no two ways about it. However much you dislike a manger that is bang out of order. As I said not saying it was you but I was disappointed that someone who's opinion I respected would throw their hat in with people who could stoop to such lows.

Spain Road I found disgusting when forced onto this terrace for the recent match against Halifax. Some of the bile coming out after about 5 or 10 minutes I'm surprised anyone wants to stop here and play. Like you cannot understand how that's supporting your team still takes all sorts.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: green hats mate on May 03, 2013, 09:09:19 PM
Just to put the record straigt WP I did back the manager from the start as at the time  I would have picked him in front of Greene .  From the off I was disapointed with his PR but was prepared to tolerate that .    It was after his first 4/5 signings and his inability to attract players from lower leagues that I formed the opinion rightly or wrongly he was not the man for the job .
I do not participate in verbal assualt on the forum or the Spayne Rd terrace unless you consider "bullshit " verbal assault , considering his time on construction sites I can  assure you that comment would be water of a ducks back to Graham .
To the best of my intentions I do not do" libelous "  ,  if you were referring to my posts can you please point out where it appears .
Hope we have a better season so I can look forward to away match reports again .
Cannot remember who said it, think there may have been more than one, but Drury was compared to Evans, it was inferred that GD would do the same if DN didn't run such a tight ship (commit fraud). That is libelous no two ways about it. However much you dislike a manger that is bang out of order. As I said not saying it was you but I was disappointed that someone who's opinion I respected would throw their hat in with people who could stoop to such lows.

Spain Road I found disgusting when forced onto this terrace for the recent match against Halifax. Some of the bile coming out after about 5 or 10 minutes I'm surprised anyone wants to stop here and play. Like you cannot understand how that's supporting your team still takes all sorts.

My comments against Drury were rather mild for a  run of the mill  football forum,  in no way do I do verbal abuse on forum or terrace .  Being discribed as "throwing my hat in with people who stoop to such lows " is inappropiate .  Same opinion as them (as many had ) but I put mine in a differant manner .

Sadly I cannot argue with your last paragraph .

I,ve made my point , matter closed with no ill feeling on my part ..

Title: Re: D G
Post by: The Big M on May 03, 2013, 09:23:42 PM
I stand on said terrace and am very supportive of the team you can't just tar everyone with the same brush. 
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 03, 2013, 09:37:14 PM
Just to put the record straigt WP I did back the manager from the start as at the time  I would have picked him in front of Greene .  From the off I was disapointed with his PR but was prepared to tolerate that .    It was after his first 4/5 signings and his inability to attract players from lower leagues that I formed the opinion rightly or wrongly he was not the man for the job .
I do not participate in verbal assualt on the forum or the Spayne Rd terrace unless you consider "bullshit " verbal assault , considering his time on construction sites I can  assure you that comment would be water of a ducks back to Graham .
To the best of my intentions I do not do" libelous "  ,  if you were referring to my posts can you please point out where it appears .
Hope we have a better season so I can look forward to away match reports again .
Cannot remember who said it, think there may have been more than one, but Drury was compared to Evans, it was inferred that GD would do the same if DN didn't run such a tight ship (commit fraud). That is libelous no two ways about it. However much you dislike a manger that is bang out of order. As I said not saying it was you but I was disappointed that someone who's opinion I respected would throw their hat in with people who could stoop to such lows.

Spain Road I found disgusting when forced onto this terrace for the recent match against Halifax. Some of the bile coming out after about 5 or 10 minutes I'm surprised anyone wants to stop here and play. Like you cannot understand how that's supporting your team still takes all sorts.

My comments against Drury were rather mild for a  run of the mill  football forum,  in no way do I do verbal abuse on forum or terrace .  Being discribed as "throwing my hat in with people who stoop to such lows " is inappropiate .  Same opinion as them (as many had ) but I put mine in a differant manner .

Sadly I cannot argue with your last paragraph .

I,ve made my point , matter closed with no ill feeling on my part ..
Read it again, I didn't say they were your comments. But if you were stood with a group of people, they were hurling loads of inappropriate abuse at someone and you join in with mild abuse. Do you think anyone on the receiving end will think, well that person stood with them hurling light abuse didn't agree with the rest? Because it's the internet things seem to be more acceptable, not just here all over the internet. Anyway as you say case closed and no, no ill feelings.

I stand on said terrace and am very supportive of the team you can't just tar everyone with the same brush. 
Again read it again, some of the bile...tell me how that's taring everyone with the same brush?
Title: Re: D G
Post by: The Big M on May 03, 2013, 09:42:20 PM
Yes but you started with I find disgusting. Talking of bile im sick of this forum lol
Title: Re: D G
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 03, 2013, 09:46:12 PM
Yes but you started with I find disgusting
Jesus H Christ. I did find the comments disgusting. It's quite obvious that it's not everyone who stands on that terrace. Anyway that's it I'm done with this forum. I don't need the aggro, I've kept away for a long while and realise now it was a mistake coming back on.

Call it a flounce or whatever but I won't be commenting on here again.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: green hats mate on May 03, 2013, 09:48:14 PM
Just to put the record straigt WP I did back the manager from the start as at the time  I would have picked him in front of Greene .  From the off I was disapointed with his PR but was prepared to tolerate that .    It was after his first 4/5 signings and his inability to attract players from lower leagues that I formed the opinion rightly or wrongly he was not the man for the job .
I do not participate in verbal assualt on the forum or the Spayne Rd terrace unless you consider "bullshit " verbal assault , considering his time on construction sites I can  assure you that comment would be water of a ducks back to Graham .
To the best of my intentions I do not do" libelous "  ,  if you were referring to my posts can you please point out where it appears .
Hope we have a better season so I can look forward to away match reports again .
Cannot remember who said it, think there may have been more than one, but Drury was compared to Evans, it was inferred that GD would do the same if DN didn't run such a tight ship (commit fraud). That is libelous no two ways about it. However much you dislike a manger that is bang out of order. As I said not saying it was you but I was disappointed that someone who's opinion I respected would throw their hat in with people who could stoop to such lows.

Spain Road I found disgusting when forced onto this terrace for the recent match against Halifax. Some of the bile coming out after about 5 or 10 minutes I'm surprised anyone wants to stop here and play. Like you cannot understand how that's supporting your team still takes all sorts.

My comments against Drury were rather mild for a  run of the mill  football forum,  in no way do I do verbal abuse on forum or terrace .  Being discribed as "throwing my hat in with people who stoop to such lows " is inappropiate .  Same opinion as them (as many had ) but I put mine in a differant manner .

Sadly I cannot argue with your last paragraph .

I,ve made my point , matter closed with no ill feeling on my part ..
Read it again, I didn't say they were your comments. But if you were stood with a group of people, they were hurling loads of inappropriate abuse at someone and you join in with mild abuse. Do you think anyone on the receiving end will think, well that person stood with them hurling light abuse didn't agree with the rest? Because it's the internet things seem to be more acceptable, not just here all over the internet. Anyway as you say case closed and no, no ill feelings.

I stand on said terrace and am very supportive of the team you can't just tar everyone with the same brush. 

To clarify WP . I did light abuse as you call it on here .   Never do abuse on the  terrace . Would be drowned out where I stand  ;)
Again read it again, some of the bile...tell me how that's taring everyone with the same brush?
Title: Re: D G
Post by: The Big M on May 03, 2013, 09:53:19 PM
Yes but you started with I find disgusting
Jesus H Christ. I did find the comments disgusting. It's quite obvious that it's not everyone who stands on that terrace. Anyway that's it I'm done with this forum. I don't need the aggro, I've kept away for a long while and realise now it was a mistake coming back on.

Call it a flounce or whatever but I won't be commenting on here again.

Me either my friend me either
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Maxross on May 03, 2013, 10:38:08 PM
Yes but you started with I find disgusting
Jesus H Christ. I did find the comments disgusting. It's quite obvious that it's not everyone who stands on that terrace. Anyway that's it I'm done with this forum. I don't need the aggro, I've kept away for a long while and realise now it was a mistake coming back on.

Call it a flounce or whatever but I won't be commenting on here again.

Me either my friend me either

Well I for one hope you both reconsider for what my opinion is worth.  This forum will be poorer without your input. 
Title: Re: D G
Post by: BosLeake on May 03, 2013, 11:59:06 PM

Well I for one hope you both reconsider for what my opinion is worth.  This forum will be poorer without your input.
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Yes I will second that Woad & Big M are big plusses for this forum, understand some fans concerns and also have them but I will reserve my judgement until the new team/season takes shape.Just hope matters are approached in a professional correct manner with regards to team.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: B Grimes on May 04, 2013, 07:53:38 AM
+1

It took me ages to drum up the courage to sign on to the forums, and now really enjoy contributing my little bits. Can I add though regardless of if I really hate something or not, you will never hear me get personal nor abusive.

If one you cant make a point without resorting to personal abuse, and yes as was the case at time with Drury, comments that were most certainly vicious and most certainly bordering on the libellous, then stay quiet

I love the eclectic mix of contributors in here, and respect, as opposed to 'always agree!' all their views,(except the really nasty ones that is) and cant understand why anyone simply for other posters disagreeing with them would then opt to never post again. Please don't do that gents,

I don't see anything wrong with what people were saying here, but that said I haven't and most certainly refuse to scroll back through the pages of bile aimed at Drury, especially by one or two that aren't currently active on this thread, and one in particular who appeared to hate Drury with a passion not seen since the days of Mary Millington

Calling someone a gingr C**t, gobby little t*t, and just because he like Evans at one time managed the same club he was now a thieving  bastard, was outrageous and those in charge of the forums should, in my opinion, have removed such drivel the second its posted. Other than that surely anything, any subject is fair game and people can argue their case how they wish pretty much with impunity. Just don't get nasty, don't get personal and everything in the world will remain calm and well

Please don't carry out your threats to leave the forums especially if you read back a couple of pages you may perhaps realise there is absolutely no need
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Shauneyg on May 04, 2013, 09:27:32 AM
We need to all stop the negative stuff and look forward to a new season and get behind the club. I have took more than my fair share of false claims from certain posters. It's all in the past now so lets look forward to the future.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Boston forever on May 04, 2013, 09:43:12 AM
Omg!!! I have very rarely commented on anything on here, and this will be the last time!! I have never seen such a negative and disrespectful forum in my life. If u support the club, support them through thick and thin!! If ur not happy then go support someone else, just think what u guys are doing to the confidence of anyone who has a conscience and is mentioned on here!
Title: Re: D G
Post by: travelling man on May 04, 2013, 09:45:32 AM
The season has only been over for 7 day and already we are doomed for next season, the manager falls out with people, this player should go and this player should stay!!!! Well the reality is none of you are the manager, I don't think so anyway, so let him get on with the job, buy our season tickets and see what the new season brings?

Is there really nothing to do in the small minded little town that I managed to escape from 23 years ago?
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Shauneyg on May 04, 2013, 10:20:51 AM
Couldn't agree more, we need to support the club and let the manger build a squad. I'm optimistic about the new season so let's all stop the negativity.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: green hats mate on May 04, 2013, 10:35:08 AM
Yes but you started with I find disgusting
Jesus H Christ. I did find the comments disgusting. It's quite obvious that it's not everyone who stands on that terrace. Anyway that's it I'm done with this forum. I don't need the aggro, I've kept away for a long while and realise now it was a mistake coming back on.

Call it a flounce or whatever but I won't be commenting on here again.

Me either my friend me either

Well I for one hope you both reconsider for what my opinion is worth.  This forum will be poorer without your input.

Agree . What makes these forums tick is the differing views .  As long as is not libellous or abusive no opinion is out of order within reason is my thought .
Negative comments ?  one of our best posters on here is "moaner" but is contributions are some of the best .  (nice bloke off the forum too ).
When we make bold statements we must be prepared to get a robust but measured response , I think tolerance is the key .
To address concerns of posters expressing thoughts about what visitors to the site from other clubs think .   Their concerns are well founded .  I have had a PM from 2 different fans from other clubs asking views on theads stating they would not put on the relevent Patter thread for fear of abuse ,
Title: Re: D G
Post by: B Grimes on May 04, 2013, 11:00:41 AM
We need to all stop the negative stuff and look forward to a new season and get behind the club. I have took more than my fair share of false claims from certain posters. It's all in the past now so lets look forward to the future.

Shauney, travelling man and the rest. I am sorry I just don't get it, I really don't understand where or why you think everything on here is being negative?

I think in the main the reverse is true. Do you think UKIP would have achieved what they did Thursday without debate, without diversity or opinions. All we do on here, and I like to think in the main, we do so with enthusiasm and passion is debate and offer our opinions on our club, and they form conversations, the kind of which are debated far more loudly and far more critically on the terraces every Saturday afternoon when our gladiators enter the areas

Apart from the Drury comments, which I will not dwell on further but of which most of the busiest contributors accepted, almost with glee, any subject debated in close and pre-season is by virtue of it being football related bound to draw equal diversity, what on earth is wrong with that?

I don't think its negative to discuss, our new manager, his alleged personality problems, who he lets go, who he wishes to stay, why, who will we sign, or indeed possible fears, playing wise for the new season

If we didn't then use the forums, to share our opinions, thoughts, hopes and fears, in doing so, whilst no doubt it would appease some, as dissention and diversity other than the continuation of the status quo would be eradicated overnight,  not just ours but all bloody forums all over the world would cease to be, what would be the point?

Football is all about emotions, and as we have seen at times the need to control those emotions, but the Drury issue apart which I personally found very unpalatable indeed, I can't be the only one who thinks that in the main, this forum provides the only place for like minded diehards like us to openly discuss all issues of the day, and far from being negative at all, I feel even as a moderate individual, that it's bloody great, I love it, perceived warts and all, and my with my passing message can I wish 'only good things for all who sail in her'   
Title: Re: D G
Post by: B Grimes on May 04, 2013, 11:03:01 AM
Peace be with you all my children!!! :D
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Poros on May 04, 2013, 04:16:50 PM
Don't you mean peace on you?
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Bostonshire on May 04, 2013, 04:24:42 PM
Well here we are then, A week after the season ended and we seem to be moving forward with next seasons plans at a good speed,

Players released some i agree some i don't but then again i could say the same about those we kept.

But thats last season and like the managers we see come and go we wish them well but we now have a new season to look at.

Seems like we have a new keeper coming and a few players to follow soon after so we could nearly have our team in place before pre season starts.

I for one are looking forward to next season, if we don't go up again then so be it longs as i see a improvment and a potential challange for a play offs.

Time to up and keep the faith and put the last season behind us

Title: Re: D G
Post by: Ed Kandi on May 04, 2013, 09:00:30 PM
Good luck to Dennis for the coming season... may the Spayne be with you  8)
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Adam on May 05, 2013, 06:02:16 PM
I share many of the concerns regarding DG so far. In particular the handling of released players. In a sense, it's largely irrelevant to the club going forward (and you only ever hear one side of the story), but it would be nice to be known as a club that does things properly. I thought the previous comparisons of Drury to Evans were mainly based on him being perceived as more bluster than substance, and the apparent tendency of his circle to come on here to defend him. Any references made to fraud were by the usual wind up merchants whose posts should never be given any sort of credence anyway imho. GD was probably on a hyding to nothing; but equally he did do a particularly bad job, and I don't think we should forget that. Comfortably the board's worst appointment to date I think, which probably justified the quick axing. I think we are in a better position with Greene, and for all the negatives put on here, I'd venture three reasons to be positive:

1) On actual evidence, results have improved. We were in serious freefall under Drury - I was seriously looking up how many teams were relegated from the BSN. The three initial wins probably raised expectations too much and made the tailing off in results look worse than it was, given the squad in hand.

2) Signings. You can debate individual players (I've not seen enough matches to) - but he broadly seems to have the right idea - an entirely new spine. Most of those retained seem to have been kept mainly as squad players. Also, putting off field issues aside, Ashley Timms is a bloody good goalkeeper at this level, so he seems to be aiming for high calibre.

3) He's impressed DN, NK and Cookie, which must have required something at least.

It's very hard to get a good measure of DG as he doesn't seem to have had any particularly long runs with stable clubs at this level. At the moment, I'm cautiously optimistic.

And as echoed by everyone else, shame to see WP go, comfortably one of the most balanced posters on here whose match reports were held in very high regard.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on May 05, 2013, 10:02:03 PM
I do believe a lot of pinky and perkys signing/retained we're pulled apart like this in the early days.  As were Drurys, it's natural.  I'll reserve judgement until next years side takes the field. 

You've got to have a screw loose to go in goal, this guy seems to fit the bill so all good so far.
Title: Re: D G
Post by: B Grimes on May 06, 2013, 08:41:44 AM
DG IS GOING TO TAKE US INTO THE BLUE SQUARE PREMIER, This is job he will really want to do well in and I think he will succeed put our 3 best players on contract and the astute signing of Timms underlines my reasons . Me personally think we have best goalkeeper centre midfield and forward in the league great start by DG the spine is looking good really hope we can build a team around these players and we will go up . LETS GET BEHIND DG AND THE PLAYERS NEXT SEASON AND LET US BE THE 12th MAN.

Here we go again, deja vu or what? and we have only just sneaked into May;D

Lets hope there isn't another half a dozen or so DG disciples, butt even allowing for your first contribution sir, lets hope your confidence is well founded and ultimately accurate.....what do you think Shauney?

PS: Love the use of capitals though