Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: bb1 on September 20, 2009, 12:20:21 PM
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just read all the posts from so called Boston fans. Criticize yes but put in perspective true fans are like
pompeys who have watched their team lose 6 matches scoring only 3 goals don,t think their ground is empty or maybe durham fans who are playing in difficult circumstances played 8 scored 4 how they would love a
draw even if it was a poor performance they only have the prospect of dropping 2 leagues think the true fans will still be there. Yes the performance wasn't the greatest but there are another 16 home matches for a very young still gelling team to show what they can do.Wasn't it about 10 games into the season that the same moaners were calling for taylers head,bring back Walsh where did that come from as most couldn,t wait for new blood. The positives from saturdays match we kept a clean sheet we are still unbeaten at home we are 7th in the early tables 5 points off the top with a game in hand. I for one didn't hiss or boo. One of the best matches of the season for me was the Hucknall game and yes it was a draw.Part of being a true fan is not knowing what to expect taking the good with the bad.Glad to read tom's posts keep being a TRUE SUPPORTER of a great little club that's what we are at the mo.
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And don't you think Boston fans have suffered enough over the last few years?
Even if some was self inflicted.......
Cut the crap about 'true fans', a fans a fan even if he only turns up once a season. Not everyone needs to stand behind a big flag with a replica shirt on to be classed a true fan.
Fact is there's some on here who've built this team up to be something its not, worse still there's some on here who still trot out the 'be thankful we've still got a club' line.
Its time for this much hyped management team to start delivering results, Tuesday's gate will probably dip below a thousand and its the middle of September, if we go out of the FA Cup on Saturday which is quite possible given the fragile nature of the team I think the fans have every right to voice their disapproval. Boston fans pay the highest prices in the league and they deserve better than the garbage seen so far at home.
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Lets put this in to perspective shall we. If you pay for anything and you're not happy with it you do have the right to complain. On sat i stood instead of sitting in the main stand, now you do get a few people in there venting their spleens. What a shock it was to hear how much venting goes on by those stood, mind you, they're very crafty they all stand at the back and shout. ;)
check the grassy knoll
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You seem to think that if someone's a fan, they can't complain when things aren't going well - managers, players and teams in general are happy to take the plaudits when they win - on the same merit, they should be happy to take the flack when they are underperforming.
Or should we just say "never mind, perhaps you'll do better next time"?
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Complaining. Who's complaining.
We are expressing our personal observations on the situation as we see them. I call that free speach.
We are still supporters of Boston United and I will be at as many home games and away games as possible to try and cheer them on into greater glory. I still think HnS are going to do good things for this club. I still think that the players are giving their best. But I will ask one question, Are the team any better now than they were at the beginning of the season ?. I will stick my kneck out and say no, but I do think that we are on a learning curve and although most seem to expect success this season I for one wont mind if it doesn't happen until next season.
If the supporters with a moan stopped posting on here cos you don't like it then eventually you'll be talking to yourself.
Happy days and may I be the first to wish everyone a Happy Christmas.
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Boston fans pay the highest prices in the league and they deserve better than the garbage seen so far at home.
It seems I was right yesterday, if the away and home form could be swapped then everyone would be happy. I can see why as the fans that don't travel (which is obviously the majority) haven't seen us win a league game this season which is what is leading to the frustration.
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Everyone has a right to an opinion.the meaning of a fan is a devotee of the sport what a load of negative posts on this forum. Is there any positives from anyone hardly any.I go to watch a game of football that's what it is a game it should be a pleasure what ever the results.I get a little tired of the same old moaning by people who can never be pleased. Some should get real and realise that a team can't win every game. An example of how fickle on this forum in the not to distant past Woody was getting a load of stick not good enough drop him etc played well in a poor game.It's a fine line between discussion and moaning.Gary Lineaker
said on match of the day last night when the fans give you stick you take a long time to get over it .constructive criticism please so i can respect others opipions or maybe i should do what the so called fans are doing and stay away and refrain from reading this forum.
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AGREE,DISAGREE AND AGREE.
Constructive words are a must from the fans, but neglective abuse a NOT
If the away form was home i think people would be happier.
I said at the beginning of the season that i didnt think we would be there just yet but aso pointed out that we had built a team harder to beat and thought we would be making huge steps in the right, I still think we have done that as the table proves at the moment.
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Bostonshire for manager........... ;)
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he can't even spell :D ::)
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he can't even spell :D ::)
Good, working out what i write due to bad spelling may give some people summit to do.
Has this is now a personnal attack on spelling my convo as ended, thank you bye
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Like me Bostonshire may not be the best of spellers but his posting always contain measured opinion and commonsense. As one who stands on the terrace on a regular basis I can assure Lonegunman that Sat was very tipical and abuse is about that level even when we are winnig matches. I can think of no reason to shout abuse at young players still learning their job, and many fans find it upsetting. Shouting abuse is a completly different thing to expressing an opinion. These managers have made a far better start than some who have gone on to make great managers . Lets not forget many on here were calling for a "proved" manager along with a big budget not so long ago, take a look at BPA and Trinity
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Agree with the above from ghm.I can't understand what are supposed fans hurling abuse at players during the game-it achieves nothing.Similarly I don't understand those who use this forum to describe performances as rubbish(or worse) without saying why or how to improve it.I was critical of yesterdays performance,or at least the system we played,as were others,and i see nothing wrong with that.I am by no means a "happy clapper" but criticism needs to be constructive.This is a fans forum,not an official club site,and as such allows us to discuss openly,which is how it should be.Thankfully most contributors post with common sense rather than the keyboard warriors who contribute nothing but cries of "rubbish" or expletives.
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Lets face facts, everyone hoped, if not belived, that the new managers had got it right first time, a finely tuned unit that would brush everything before it aside.
But this is the real world and the unpredictable face of football. The team are still unbeaten so the progress made on last season is immense but it is plain to see that there is some way to go yet and even when changes are made teams are not going to lay down at York Street and let us steamroller over them. Merely because of the clubs infrastucture teams raise their game at ground such as York Street, Gigg Lane and The Walks, that's the way of it.
Would it really be a contest if we were to run up scores of five, six and seven each and every week. The tedium of that would be as bad if not worse than waiting for the first home victory.
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Thats probably why we're doing better away, teams treat us like any other, and plus they dont have all the old people moaning at them.
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And don't you think Boston fans have suffered enough over the last few years?
Even if some was self inflicted.......
Cut the crap about 'true fans', a fans a fan even if he only turns up once a season. Not everyone needs to stand behind a big flag with a replica shirt on to be classed a true fan.
Fact is there's some on here who've built this team up to be something its not, worse still there's some on here who still trot out the 'be thankful we've still got a club' line.
Its time for this much hyped management team to start delivering results, Tuesday's gate will probably dip below a thousand and its the middle of September, if we go out of the FA Cup on Saturday which is quite possible given the fragile nature of the team I think the fans have every right to voice their disapproval. Boston fans pay the highest prices in the league and they deserve better than the garbage seen so far at home.
One loss in seventeen games under new managers = fragile team?
Who is a fan and who isn't is a boring and irrelevant debate. Regardless, a lot of people are going to express opinions on the team. You're exactly right about there still being a few on here thankful of having a club: the rest with a sense of perspective have given up bashing their head against the brick wall and just accepted that some people just love to moan, and will do so whenever we don't win...
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Please come back Bostonshire. *ollocks to the rest of em. We are all entitled to have our say. Sometimes people afree with it and uvver times they don't. there should not be any personal attacks on anyone.
Just heared from my mate that Woody had a good game. In the beginning I thought he was our weak link but also that I hope he improves with experience. Keep it up Woody. I do also think that the booing and stuff is not right. The players know when it's gone tits up and the abuse of the pitch doesn't help----see----sometimes people disagree with what I say but who can disagree with that last statement.
Fully agree with GHM and OCM. Perhaps madhos should say sorry for upsetting Bostonshire.
Sometimes we all talk out of our arses, including bb1, but there is a huge difference between disagreeing and slagging off.
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Do,nt know who you are but come back Bostonshire , I think most on here like the honesty and passion of your contributions.
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BOSTONSHIRE PLEASE COME BACK IM SORRY :( ...........IT WAS A ONLY A JOKE ;D..........
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BOSTONSHIRE PLEASE COME BACK IM SORRY :( ...........IT WAS A ONLY A JOKE ;D..........
I want kisses and hug with that ;D
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I think a lot of our fans and my personal expectations may have been created by such an excellent pre - season. We played some great passing football and it was such a transformation compared to the previous season. This has probably fuelled alot of peoples great expectations for this season. Were all human and sometimes we get a bit carried away with expectations. I personally don't think we're going to get promoted but I think play offs arent out of our reach. I don't go to games to see my team win, I go to see them play and perform to the best of thier ability. I'm quite happy to go out those gates having watched us loose, knowing the lads have put their all into the game. However it's different when the effort isnt put in by players and rightly they should be told.
One point I would like to make from this is - since we played such good football then, why isn't it being reflected in the league games. Obviously we've added other players to the squad and that has changed the game we play, most noteably davidson and saurez. I'm sure the long ball game will now be dropped and the managers will rectify the formation which I agree with many people on here should go back to 4 4 2. As the saying goes - if it aint broke dont fix it, it worked in pre season and I'm confident the lads will get back to winning ways with 4 4 2. I don't think the team as a whole is under performaning, just simply the managers have experimented with formations and simply it's not working for us. There's no told you so about it from me as I'm not a football manager or a know all on the terrace, I respect them for trying new ideas and being brave enough to try them. They are definately the men to do this job, as are the players - they have my total backing.
However as a fan, I respect the right for other fans to have an opinion and not be judged or slated for having a view on something. As long as it isnt personal and abusive, people need to learn that a game may be viewed totally different compared to the view of another fan.
Fans play a huge part in a team, we need to be the 12th man at home - not the disadvantage to the lads. Keep the shouts polite and respectful and encourage them. F'ing and blinding at them will do nothing good and wont give them any confidence. However if fans arent justifyably happy with something, its their right to let the players know in a constructive manor.
All I'd say is keep the faith, believe in them and they will deliver. Don't stay away from the games, you'll be hurting the club. No fan wants to hurt their club surely. Get to the home games, even if you can't travel away and cheer on the lads to victory. We've a fab little club, lets all be proud of it once again.
Pride of Lincolnshire
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Having not been able to get to a match so far this season due to work commitments I can't really comment on how the team are performing apart from what I read on the O/S and on here. It does appear that we need to revert to a 442 system to give the midfield a boost though. I like most on here will give positive posts on the team (apart from last season V Nantwich) and I do hope this not winning at home situation goes quickly. I will be happy if we finish in the playoff positions this season; winning the league would be great though! As long as were not loosing I'm happy; okay a draw isn't great but at least its a point. For those that have been so far this season who has been good so far and the most consistant? I genuinely cannot wait until I'm at my first match this season and at the moment it looks like the BPA match at home, also planned a trip over to Whitby and in true tradition I'll be at the Boxing day game. Keep getting behind the lads and always; Up the Pilgrims!!!
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Good post PoL.
Well done madhos. Thats two of us so far this season who have said sorry for something and we won't be the last.
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Think this thread sparked a balanced debate on the whole.I may talk out of my arse at times as been said but it is wrong to hiss and boo these young players who don't give up easily and doing it so early in the season.Could understand it if it was in march and we were languishing at the bottom. Get behind em tonight and we may be rewarded with a win .