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Title: Negativity has to STOP !!
Post by: milo1972 on February 17, 2013, 09:23:16 PM
I am becoming increasingly frustrated with certain individuals on here who call themselves Boston United supporters who are constantly dragging the new management team down !

For goodness sake, give them a chance !!.  If you want to support the club, then support Graham, Dean, Paul and the players, otherwise pi** off and support someone else.

Enough said !

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Post by: picky on February 17, 2013, 09:24:58 PM
Well said
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Post by: kingofnaves on February 17, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
I support the club! Not the manager.Hopefully the club will be here longer than the manager ;)
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Post by: milo1972 on February 17, 2013, 09:41:52 PM
Give me a good answer on why you dont support Graham ??
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Post by: kingofnaves on February 17, 2013, 09:57:46 PM
Why dont the Chelsea fans like Rafa? Seems strange!
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Post by: Shauneyg on February 17, 2013, 10:02:57 PM
Never have I come across someone with like yourself KON, you do nothing but talk absolute negative rubbish. What is your problem????? Chelsea don't like rafa as he once said he would never manage a club like Chelsea. Get behind the club and Drury.
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Post by: kingofnaves on February 17, 2013, 10:09:03 PM
Shauneyg! Ive supported the club more than you! The club has been dragged through the shit enough in recent times.Just wished your mate would not talk to the media as much!
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Post by: Shauneyg on February 17, 2013, 10:17:05 PM
What is wrong with talking to the media? What is your reasons for not supposing Drury? Give the management chance to build us a good side it's not going to happen over night!!! The improvements in attitude and desire from the lads is evident from the last 3 games and things will get much better yet I'm sure of that.
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Post by: Shauneyg on February 17, 2013, 10:19:05 PM
*supporting
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Post by: howmanynames2pick on February 17, 2013, 10:25:08 PM
Shauneyg! Ive supported the club more than you! The club has been dragged through the shit enough in recent times.Just wished your mate would not talk to the media as much!
Does he talk to the media any more than any other manager?
If he does and spouts off a bit is that so bad?
I thought your vitriol against Ian Freeman was bad but you've now gone to a new level!
As supporters were like a tug o war team and unless we all pull the same way we WILL lose.
One way and another the clubs future is the balance.
A lot of the quite frankly crap on here could well help tip it the wrong way.
Some of "the lost" supporters who may have a look at his forum will be put off by comments on here, some of which are by people commenting on matches they haven't even been too!
The club needs your Support not constant slating!
On a Fathers Day a few years ago a lot of people turned out worried about the clubs future.
DO NOT be complacent and think "it can't happen again"
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Post by: kingofnaves on February 17, 2013, 10:32:28 PM
Fair comment howmanynames! But I can assure you im not the only one moaning!  ;)
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Post by: Pilgrim86 on February 17, 2013, 10:33:40 PM
Why dont the Chelsea fans like Rafa? Seems strange!
Rafa was critical of the plastic fans of Chelsea, whilst manager of Liverpool. Has Drury done the same about BUFC?
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Post by: argieh on February 17, 2013, 10:49:46 PM
Never have I come across someone with like yourself KON, you do nothing but talk absolute negative rubbish. What is your problem????? Chelsea don't like rafa as he once said he would never manage a club like Chelsea. Get behind the club and Drury.
You cannot force someone to like someone that they have already formed a negative opinion on, and constantly referring to it just entrenches their belief in it even more as you are questioning their right to feel that way. As much as I admire your passion, Shauneyg, it's their perogative to support the Club however they seem fit and in their own way, whether that's negative or positive in other people's eyes. Just as some Chelsea fans will never warm to Benitez so some will never warm to GD, but knowing him well, as probably you do, it will just make him that much more determined to succeed...and that can't be such a bad thing  :)
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Post by: howmanynames2pick on February 17, 2013, 11:16:22 PM
Fair comment howmanynames! But I can assure you im not the only one moaning!  ;)
My comments were not solely aimed at you.
I just cannot see where all the slating of the club/manager/players will get us.
Imagine your David Newton or Neil Kemster and you happen to come across some of the garbage that is being put on here or possibly worse being shouted out at the games.
Would you be thinking " wow this is great, lets throw some more money at it"
Being positive (and I know it's not always been easy over the last few years) will take he club forward.
The constant sniping, Pee taking, slating of those trying to take the club forward will not encourage them!
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Post by: Bostonshire on February 18, 2013, 01:01:42 AM
I support the club,the managers and the players. But have to admit coming on a posting this to those paying customers makes me feel like i dont want to spend my cash and support the club anymore.

NO body as the right to to tell people to pi** off, Negative or positive.

Its a forum and will always have mixed veiws some good some bad. Deal with it and yes sure we have a few ultra anti drury fans on here but we all have a choice to be here or not and read what you want.


I am becoming increasingly frustrated with certain individuals on here who call themselves Boston United supporters who are constantly dragging the new management team down !

For goodness sake, give them a chance !!.  If you want to support the club, then support Graham, Dean, Paul and the players, otherwise pi** off and support someone else.

Enough said !


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Post by: soccermad67 on February 18, 2013, 02:51:27 AM
Yes its time everyone got behind the team,management for your support, A team is not built over night. Graham Drury he speaks his own mind,about the team he took over, So Come On , get behind the team, and management
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Post by: B Grimes on February 18, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
Give me a good answer on why you dont support Graham ??

Actually KON, on a serious note mate i would also love to know why you seem to not dislike drury but with your many posts most of which i think are great and said with obvious passion actually appear to hate him. what has he done to stir such feelings of loathing in you?
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Post by: B Grimes on February 18, 2013, 08:50:50 AM
Shauneyg! Ive supported the club more than you! The club has been dragged through the shit enough in recent times.Just wished your mate would not talk to the media as much!

I watched the mourinho documentary the other night and before you say it KON am not comapring the two ;D and the way he used the media which pissed many people off. i do agree some of drurys comments appear to be way of the mark, but thats because i have never been a manager. i assume drury is not an idiot and maybe he has reasons for saying what he says, either way i actually find them quite refreshing, quite honest, and if you were you would admit your hated of Gd was evident before he was given the job, so that yapping to the press cant be the real reason, can it?
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Post by: B Grimes on February 18, 2013, 08:59:57 AM
I support the club,the managers and the players. But have to admit coming on a posting this to those paying customers makes me feel like i dont want to spend my cash and support the club anymore.

NO body as the right to to tell people to pi** off, Negative or positive.

Its a forum and will always have mixed veiws some good some bad. Deal with it and yes sure we have a few ultra anti drury fans on here but we all have a choice to be here or not and read what you want.


I am becoming increasingly frustrated with certain individuals on here who call themselves Boston United supporters who are constantly dragging the new management team down !

For goodness sake, give them a chance !!.  If you want to support the club, then support Graham, Dean, Paul and the players, otherwise pi** off and support someone else.

Enough said !



totally agree everyone has an opinion and the right to share it but what worries me is if some of those adverse opinions be it towards players or management are touted too loudly on a saturday afternoon which can then result, as happened saturday, with some of the comments plainly heard if you were sitting anywhere near the dug out in that direction and that surely can not be helpful can it

like most am not overly enjoying this season certainly not enjoying the results we have had but like most will support everyone involved with the team even if i personally think they are pants, and we should all be doing that certainly on match days at least?
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Post by: wez33 on February 18, 2013, 11:07:41 AM
There's 3/4 people on here who are "boo everything"... They've got boring very quick!
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Post by: miele on February 18, 2013, 12:55:50 PM
I bet DRURY and co. were very pleased with 900+ on sat.
 
IF the negative's on here turn up for the next home game that would make us around 908+

I say good look for the rest of the season.i am happy so far.

TO the negative's DRURY will be here next season for sure.

I will support whatever team he assemble's.

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Post by: green hats mate on February 18, 2013, 01:56:46 PM
I support the club,the managers and the players. But have to admit coming on a posting this to those paying customers makes me feel like i dont want to spend my cash and support the club anymore.

NO body as the right to to tell people to pi** off, Negative or positive.

Its a forum and will always have mixed veiws some good some bad. Deal with it and yes sure we have a few ultra anti drury fans on here but we all have a choice to be here or not and read what you want.


I am becoming increasingly frustrated with certain individuals on here who call themselves Boston United supporters who are constantly dragging the new management team down !

For goodness sake, give them a chance !!.  If you want to support the club, then support Graham, Dean, Paul and the players, otherwise pi** off and support someone else.

Enough said !



Exactly right Bostonshire , a poster coming on telling supporters who do not agree with him/her to p*ss
is one thing you do not tell the paying customer . 
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Post by: bb1 on February 18, 2013, 03:51:11 PM
But he's freely admitted he aint a paying customer he gets as many freebies as he can so yeah p--s off other fans reading this once football forum think were a joke. He never goes to away matches( none free though eh) if he did he could discuss football.Oh and i know we don't value other fans opinion but some of the Guisley fans thought we bossed the midfield most of the match perhaps they can see where we have improved wait and see and i don't know anyone at the club no axe to grind just a lover of football and BUFC
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Post by: kingofnaves on February 18, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
But he's freely admitted he aint a paying customer he gets as many freebies as he can so yeah p--s off other fans reading this once football forum think were a joke. He never goes to away matches( none free though eh) if he did he could discuss football.Oh and i know we don't value other fans opinion but some of the Guisley fans thought we bossed the midfield most of the match perhaps they can see where we have improved wait and see and i don't know anyone at the club no axe to grind just a lover of football and BUFC
like I said several weeks ago I was goung to pay from now on! But I could tell the sponsors who gave me the ticket a message "piss off"Dont think the chairman would be happy!
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Post by: kingofnaves on February 18, 2013, 05:02:09 PM
Shauneyg! Ive supported the club more than you! The club has been dragged through the shit enough in recent times.Just wished your mate would not talk to the media as much!

I watched the mourinho documentary the other night and before you say it KON am not comapring the two ;D and the way he used the media which pissed many people off. i do agree some of drurys comments appear to be way of the mark, but thats because i have never been a manager. i assume drury is not an idiot and maybe he has reasons for saying what he says, either way i actually find them quite refreshing, quite honest, and if you were you would admit your hated of Gd was evident before he was given the job, so that yapping to the press cant be the real reason, can it?
Dont compare the "special one" with GD please! Had the pleasure to meet JM a few yours back and he was a decent bloke!
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Post by: bb1 on February 18, 2013, 05:34:08 PM
KON i am sure the sponsers who gave you a freebie won't want you to have another when they see you are making BUFC a club just getting it's respect back into a joke. It's the moaning idiots who complain at matches and on this forum who never discuss the football they don't see half the match to busy took up with seeking out an individual and then proceed with an unnecessary witch hunt .At the end of the day good bad or indifferent it is the owners choice of manager.For me i think he will not be afraid to change things if it needed to be done,after all it can take some new employees weeks to even find the their way to the lavs. Very easy to critise when you can,t hit back.
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Post by: kingofnaves on February 18, 2013, 05:47:41 PM
Totally agree with you! I think the respect could be gone soon with mentioning fraudsters on the radio.Then blaming players for mistakes!
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Post by: green hats mate on February 18, 2013, 08:31:43 PM
KON i am sure the sponsers who gave you a freebie won't want you to have another when they see you are making BUFC a club just getting it's respect back into a joke. It's the moaning idiots who complain at matches and on this forum who never discuss the football they don't see half the match to busy took up with seeking out an individual and then proceed with an unnecessary witch hunt .At the end of the day good bad or indifferent it is the owners choice of manager.For me i think he will not be afraid to change things if it needed to be done,after all it can take some new employees weeks to even find the their way to the lavs. Very easy to critise when you can,t hit back.

Agree bbi this forum is  for dicussing football and BUFC in particular . When a thread is started by telling fans to f*ck off it kicks in negative comments .    surely posters should be enticing  people to matches rather than depriving the club of income by telling fans to stay away .
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Post by: woad_pilgrim on February 18, 2013, 10:04:22 PM
I support the club,the managers and the players. But have to admit coming on a posting this to those paying customers makes me feel like i dont want to spend my cash and support the club anymore.

NO body as the right to to tell people to pi** off, Negative or positive.

Its a forum and will always have mixed veiws some good some bad. Deal with it and yes sure we have a few ultra anti drury fans on here but we all have a choice to be here or not and read what you want.


I am becoming increasingly frustrated with certain individuals on here who call themselves Boston United supporters who are constantly dragging the new management team down !

For goodness sake, give them a chance !!.  If you want to support the club, then support Graham, Dean, Paul and the players, otherwise pi** off and support someone else.

Enough said !



Exactly right Bostonshire , a poster coming on telling supporters who do not agree with him/her to p*ss
is one thing you do not tell the paying customer .
So what you're saying Bostonshire is that the OP if he doesn't like something shouldn't read it but you are then trying to tell them what they can and can't say? By your own standards if you don't like what he/she says then don't read it.

GHM you voiced your concerns regarding Graham Drury damaging the clubs reputation. Myself what KON and the other Boo Drury crowd are doing is much worse. Other clubs fans (and people in general) look at this forum and what is written is regarded as the general consensus of what we all (BUFC fans) think.

So when these poster post there rubbish that cannot be backed up by facts that is representing you and I. Not something I really want to be associated with.
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Post by: kingofnaves on February 18, 2013, 10:21:59 PM
WP lets really impress everybody and say Graham is a brilliant manager.We play like Barcalona every week!This double the crowd.
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Post by: woad_pilgrim on February 18, 2013, 10:33:17 PM
WP lets really impress everybody and say Graham is a brilliant manager.We play like Barcalona every week!This double the crowd.
Nope you don't have to say he's a brilliant manager. Criticise him if you want but back it up with something other than tired old cliches like "he's an Evans clone", "he only ever brings in lower league rubbish" or my personal favourite "we play llike a Spanish bar side".

If you can look past the hatred and not try to spin everything into a negative against Graham you'll get more respect. You're no better than ShaunyG who puts a positive spin on everything.
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Post by: Bostonshire on February 18, 2013, 11:05:53 PM
I support the club,the managers and the players. But have to admit coming on a posting this to those paying customers makes me feel like i dont want to spend my cash and support the club anymore.

NO body as the right to to tell people to pi** off, Negative or positive.

Its a forum and will always have mixed veiws some good some bad. Deal with it and yes sure we have a few ultra anti drury fans on here but we all have a choice to be here or not and read what you want.


I am becoming increasingly frustrated with certain individuals on here who call themselves Boston United supporters who are constantly dragging the new management team down !

For goodness sake, give them a chance !!.  If you want to support the club, then support Graham, Dean, Paul and the players, otherwise pi** off and support someone else.

Enough said !



Exactly right Bostonshire , a poster coming on telling supporters who do not agree with him/her to p*ss
is one thing you do not tell the paying customer .
So what you're saying Bostonshire is that the OP if he doesn't like something shouldn't read it but you are then trying to tell them what they can and can't say? By your own standards if you don't like what he/she says then don't read it.

GHM you voiced your concerns regarding Graham Drury damaging the clubs reputation. Myself what KON and the other Boo Drury crowd are doing is much worse. Other clubs fans (and people in general) look at this forum and what is written is regarded as the general consensus of what we all (BUFC fans) think.

So when these poster post there rubbish that cannot be backed up by facts that is representing you and I. Not something I really want to be associated with.

Think you will see i was pointing out you cant tell paying fans to p*ss off, and to some extent in reality nobody should be told to p*ss of paying fans or non paying and just pointing out everyone has a choice to read the post or not,. i said they had a choice so no standards used WP. I just made my mark as there is a line between a person voicing how they feel about the negativity of post then its crossed at telling them to p*ss off.
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Post by: bb1 on February 19, 2013, 12:12:23 AM
But fans at a match can tell GD to F--k off .No line crossed there then. No line crossed when the posters on here liken the man to a fraudster that,s not offensive is it.bordering on slander.
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Post by: B Grimes on February 19, 2013, 06:16:24 AM
Fair comment
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Post by: B Grimes on February 19, 2013, 06:17:07 AM
WP lets really impress everybody and say Graham is a brilliant manager.We play like Barcalona every week!This double the crowd.
Nope you don't have to say he's a brilliant manager. Criticise him if you want but back it up with something other than tired old cliches like "he's an Evans clone", "he only ever brings in lower league rubbish" or my personal favourite "we play llike a Spanish bar side".

If you can look past the hatred and not try to spin everything into a negative against Graham you'll get more respect. You're no better than ShaunyG who puts a positive spin on everything.

So's that to be fair. :D
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Post by: Bostonshire on February 19, 2013, 10:17:32 AM
But fans at a match can tell GD to F--k off .No line crossed there then. No line crossed when the posters on here liken the man to a fraudster that,s not offensive is it.bordering on slander.

Yes lined cross and althou it never will be its something that should not happen.

Constructive critism is fine, but personal abuse and the use of foul language needs removing. I cant really say anything about the other as i don't get involved with, its something i don't see myself that the 2 are a like.
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Post by: woad_pilgrim on February 19, 2013, 12:57:20 PM
Think you will see i was pointing out you cant tell paying fans to p*ss off, and to some extent in reality nobody should be told to p*ss of paying fans or non paying and just pointing out everyone has a choice to read the post or not,. i said they had a choice so no standards used WP. I just made my mark as there is a line between a person voicing how they feel about the negativity of post then its crossed at telling them to p*ss off.
Nope you are using a standard and a double one at that. Content is immaterial, you are not affected/offended by KON etc. postings so you tell someone not to read it, but you are affected by Milo so you then ask him not to write it. That is double standards. Ditto the point about GD, just because it doesn't affect you, you are saying it's ok.

I also don't get where this paying customer thing is coming from. Milo is a fellow fan not a club representative. This is an unofficial forum not something moderated by the club so not sure why Milo telling a fan to piss off correlates into you withdrawing your support.

Ken Fox is the moderator of the forum, if something offends then he's the man to report it to. I'm guessing it hasn't crossed any user policy agreement or else Ken would have already removed the post and/or banned the user.

Edit: IMO the repetitive and negative posts by some have stopped a lot of users posting and this trend will continue. Oxo has already stated he's not posting any more due to the way the forum is heading and it's a while since I have seen anything from the likes of O Cho Melt and Leicester Pilgrim. These are poster I didn't always agree with but who I respected and who usually backed up their arguments with reason and/or facts. The forum is going downhill that's for sure...
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Post by: Bostonshire on February 19, 2013, 03:01:13 PM
If this is what you think and how you feel then thats fine this is to your opion.

One thing i will add thou is it is not just the forum going down hill. over the past few month a few issues have come up between me and certain staff at the club and this is also   been dealt with in a very strained way. So much to the point that my thoughts about the club as changed how i feel in regards to supporting the club by voice and financial commitments. something that will end at the end of this season and will not be renewed. Just feel there is a strange attatiude around the club and the fans at the mo.
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Post by: green hats mate on February 19, 2013, 04:19:52 PM
I,ve given  up on this thread , given that I have never played pro football i,m happy to  give in to people who disagree with me on football matters .   But if anyone believes any club(business)  can afford to have fans (customers )  telling fellow customers to "feck-off" they are wrong . 
Apart from that it provoked a thread wish I would like to think is not typical of this board .
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Post by: kingofnaves on February 19, 2013, 07:21:25 PM
GHM got to agree! Any more shit on here and im going to save my money and not go to YS this season! Probably end up the City Ground or London Rd which is only a few quid dearer! Been told its only 6 quid at Spalding and I think they have a decent team to watch :(
Sad times when people who dont fund the club drive us away!
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Post by: Seenbetter on February 20, 2013, 09:52:24 PM
We all make comments on here that are not always agreed with by everyone and we must accept that but to say that dissenters should *iss off is out of order. I have never read such a thing on here and I believe the poster has gone beyond the bounds of what is acceptable.