Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: BosstickPilgrim on February 12, 2013, 05:22:37 PM
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Silk has left
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Have we ever had a campaign in which none of the summer signings have lasted the season?
We signed eight new players during last pre-season and Silk is the seventh of those to leave (after Jones, Miller, French, Stokes, Wilson and Munn). There's only Haystead left.
And people thought Jason Lee's summer signings a year earlier weren't up to scratch!
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Is Bob demolishing the house that Jason built.
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Bob? is that the other name for s..t?
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Bob? is that the other name for s..t?
along with others maybe! 8) :)
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Nice to see you back MLF.
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obviously does not fit the profile.
he has played at too high a level.
I am beginning to get very concerned about this manager
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obviously does not fit the profile.
he has played at too high a level.
I am beginning to get very concerned about this manager
Me too , dt woodhall .
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Im Not, We have a cash issue at the mo so expect more
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More out the door,
Less in the gate.
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Don't see the link seeingbetter. Think silk was steady but no better than the rest of the fullbacks we see at this level
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obviously does not fit the profile.
he has played at too high a level.
I am beginning to get very concerned about this manager
Me too DT! Theres some within who are not happy ;)
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i dont think any of you will be happy with anything drury does, too many want him to go already!
This is why we are becoming the club we are, too many day dreaming fans expect us to be promoted every season, this is what canoville used to rage about, we are not the team we once was and we wont be until the fans start backing and stop moaning about everything!
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Ill be happy if i got summit to do on a Saturday that involves Boston united. If cutting the budget and lets be honest with our selfs you must have seen it coming with the fall in gates. If we are 14 points clear of the drop zone so we are not going down but we are not going up. So why stay on the wrong side of the budget line.
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Dont know how Drury got the job? What has he achieved as a manager without being backed with a wealthy chairman?
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Ill be happy if i got summit to do on a Saturday that involves Boston united. If cutting the budget and lets be honest with our selfs you must have seen it coming with the fall in gates. If we are 14 points clear of the drop zone so we are not going down but we are not going up. So why stay on the wrong side of the budget line.
Agree lets cut wages! Do we need GD, Holden, Conditioning coach and keeping coach instead of players? I think the club needs to sort this out and spend the money on players!
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Ill be happy if i got summit to do on a Saturday that involves Boston united. If cutting the budget and lets be honest with our selfs you must have seen it coming with the fall in gates. If we are 14 points clear of the drop zone so we are not going down but we are not going up. So why stay on the wrong side of the budget line.
Agree lets cut wages! Do we need GD, Holden, Conditioning coach and keeping coach instead of players? I think the club needs to sort this out and spend the money on players!
Well we need a manager just not to sure on the massive backroom wage bill that we seem to be having. At this time i would hope with us been safe but not going anywhere we should start to look at giving our better youth a run out. If it they can do it then fantastic if not then we have not lossed owt. Id still like to see Ross and jelly cut. Both are good but will be on half decent wages but id like to see these replaces by hungry players I.E Foster type players
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i dont think any of you will be happy with anything drury does, too many want him to go already!
This is why we are becoming the club we are, too many day dreaming fans expect us to be promoted every season, this is what canoville used to rage about, we are not the team we once was and we wont be until the fans start backing and stop moaning about everything!
WELL SAID S.P.
DRURY. HOLDEN. and WEST will sort it.
if it mean's a complete change of player's so be it.
I think some of our player's have had it to easy and need to move on.
every player next season will want to play for drury and co. they will shut the doubter's and moaner's up for sure. I for one like what i see so far.
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Kingofnaves you really are clueless. Next season will be the time to judge the management. It's obvious the players they really want are at other clubs and would be unwilling to move at this time of the season. The squad that JL put together on contracts is so unbalanced. There has been improvements since Drury and co arrived it won't happen overnight.
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Folk on here are only voicing their personal feelings. Whatever is said will not change anything this season and we will all no doubt have to wait until next season and see how things develope. Then those who think the sun shines out of GDs bum will be be able to say 'told you so' OR the doubters in his ability will be able to say 'told you so'. The only problem with that is if the doubters are right the club will suffer but at least his two ardent fans will follow him to his next position. I do believe however that if the doubters are proved wrong they will be man/woman enough to admit it on here.
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Kingofnaves you really are clueless. Next season will be the time to judge the management. It's obvious the players they really want are at other clubs and would be unwilling to move at this time of the season. The squad that JL put together on contracts is so unbalanced. There has been improvements since Drury and co arrived it won't happen overnight.
Clueless that sums up Drury! Roll on next season to prove me right! Players they want are at other clubs and unwilling to move then? So why clear out present players now and replace by others? Yes Shauneyg thats clueless thinking !
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Kingofnaves you really are clueless. Next season will be the time to judge the management. It's obvious the players they really want are at other clubs and would be unwilling to move at this time of the season. The squad that JL put together on contracts is so unbalanced. There has been improvements since Drury and co arrived it won't happen overnight.
Clueless that sums up Drury! Roll on next season to prove me right! Players they want are at other clubs and unwilling to move then? So why clear out present players now and replace by others? Yes Shauneyg thats clueless thinking !
I can see both arguements here and while shauneyg is right next season will be the natural time to make decisions and form our opinions it is hard to swallow and even fathom that in GD's opinion he obviously feels so many inherited players are simply not just good enough.
That said at one stage these same players had us on the edge of the play offs so at one time shauney they really cant have been all bad can they an you do weaken most of your arguemets when in complete contrast to KON your defence of GD and evey single thing he does does border on the ;bias beyond belief' category
But you surely have to equally accpet KON that as GD evidently dont rate many at all the current crop, which with the number hehas letgo is glaringly obvious, then your why clear out present players and replace them now comment is pretty ridiculous, he has to!
wether we agree with that or with the quality of the replacements you mention, now thats a different issue altogether but even if he werent yourchoice, first or last which is obvious as your hatred of him he is none the less the manager and as supporters until proved that hes as clueless as you obviously feel he is isn't it only fair, only proper that we all support him and all the players he brings in?
just my view by the way
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I liked silk as a player but cannot get to training when needed so he go's end of.
well done to drury .
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I really cant see where the problem is.
Like i said not going up not going down lets start the clear out of high earners and those that cant and get the budget in line or even save a bit and get it below. Get the Youth involved to see the season out.
I Want Drury to have is fair crack at it and happy to see next season but i do have my concearns in regards of the coaching team. Do we really need all of it.
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Kingofnaves you really are clueless. Next season will be the time to judge the management. It's obvious the players they really want are at other clubs and would be unwilling to move at this time of the season. The squad that JL put together on contracts is so unbalanced. There has been improvements since Drury and co arrived it won't happen overnight.
I have doubts about Drury but we have to give him time before we pass judgement .
Why are players not contracted unwilling to move this time of the season Shauny ?
Improvements ? Improvement is based on points won .!
Can you enlighten us Shauny on what wage Corbys highest paid player was on in GD Southern League side ?
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I have no idea nor do I care what Corbys players are or where paid and what relevance does that have?
I will defend the manager as much as I like. I am just stating my beliefs and sharing my views. Just seems KON is nothing but negative and moaning. He wants drury to fail that meaning the club would fail in due course. That's not what supporters should wish for, is it ?????
Yes I may come across bias but that's because i believe in what they are trying to do and share there passion. Let's see what happens when we have a new side next season.
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I have no idea nor do I care what Corbys players are or where paid and what relevance does that have?
I will defend the manager as much as I like. I am just stating my beliefs and sharing my views. Just seems KON is nothing but negative and moaning. He wants drury to fail that meaning the club would fail in due course. That's not what supporters should wish for, is it ?????
Yes I may come across bias but that's because i believe in what they are trying to do and share there passion. Let's see what happens when we have a new side next season.
What Corby players were paid may well have a relevance shauney, if GD had a lot bigger budget to build a SL side than hes got at Boston he may find it too big a challange at Boston.
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Then those who think the sun shines out of GDs bum will be be able to say 'told you so' OR the doubters in his ability will be able to say 'told you so'. The only problem with that is if the doubters are right the club will suffer but at least his two ardent fans will follow him to his next position. I do believe however that if the doubters are proved wrong they will be man/woman enough to admit it on here.
Clueless that sums up Drury! Roll on next season to prove me right! Players they want are at other clubs and unwilling to move then? So why clear out present players now and replace by others? Yes Shauneyg thats clueless thinking !
Jesus F'ing Christ is this what this forum is all about. Being proved right and saying I told you so. What a bunch of muppets ::)
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Oh almost forgot
Boo Drury
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We should all want success for this great football club. Yes we may have different opinions but we should all want the club to do well and progress both on and off the field. Just don't understand all the negativity surrounding things from
Certain posters.
It may well be true that drury has a much smaller budget than at his previous clubs but if he fails it certainly won't be through lack of effort or desire and I for one look forward to seeing a new side full of passion and commitment wearing the shirts next season.
I'm sure drury has his faults, some of which have been evident in the early months but I will backing him and if that other posters them so be it!
Up the pilgrims !
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Oh almost forgot
Boo Drury
Piss myself every time I read that quote, WP....just class! :)
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Bloody hell KoN, we have made it. We are officially Muppets. Which one would you like to be. I bags Animal, perhaps you can be Fozzy. Perhaps WP could be one, maybe one of the two old farts in the box passing holier than thow judgement on everyone else.
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Fame at last Seeingbetter!
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Bloody hell KoN, we have made it. We are officially Muppets. Which one would you like to be. I bags Animal, perhaps you can be Fozzy. Perhaps WP could be one, maybe one of the two old farts in the box passing holier than thow judgement on everyone else.
If the cap fits...
If you think being right is more important than the club being successful then I stand by my comment. I wasn't just talking about you 2 either, it's pretty obvious there are quite a few who value being right as the most important thing.
It's obvious KON desperately wants Drury to fail regardless of what effect it has on the club. He was the same with Ian Freeman and before that with Danny Matson. Everything that happens at the club KON is on here with his Boo Drury, everyone knows he hates him why does he have to repeat ad infinitum?
As for your comment that people will hold their hands up to being wrong, there were plenty on here anti Scott and Hurst until they started winning. Not one person held their hands up and if/when Drury is successful nobody will again.
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Dont foget Stones!
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Dont foget Stones!
Not sure we can count Stones as I don't think you waged as consistently constant campaign against him as you did the others. On a slightly related note here's a picture of you when discussing Drury:
(http://1-2knockout.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5505fc4968834010536e09336970b-800wi)
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Boo WP ;)
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Boo WP ;)
I knew I should have copyrighted the Boo Drury gag.
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We all make Boo Boos WP.
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Wonder if anybody fails to turn up for training tonight?
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Why keep releasing contracted players?
Payoffs usually equate to ( minimum) 50% of outstanding contract, and that's if players agree ( otherwise 100%)
Add to that the (albeit lower) wage of new signings, and there is not much of a saving on the balance sheet.
Good to get rid of disruptive/ crap/ useless players, but essentially if you give out 12 month contracts, then you are stuck with them.
Better to let them try harder towards the end of the season, to try to earn contracts elsewhere, whilst the manager is targetting new players for next seasons challenge
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At least nobody offered us cash for him first before his release
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Why keep releasing contracted players?
Payoffs usually equate to ( minimum) 50% of outstanding contract, and that's if players agree ( otherwise 100%)
Add to that the (albeit lower) wage of new signings, and there is not much of a saving on the balance sheet.
Good to get rid of disruptive/ crap/ useless players, but essentially if you give out 12 month contracts, then you are stuck with them.
Better to let them try harder towards the end of the season, to try to earn contracts elsewhere, whilst the manager is targetting new players for next seasons challenge
50% is rubbish mate do not know where you heard that. think you find most at this level cancel there contract for a couple of weeks wages.
Oh we will all be suprised but he was not on contract so would not have needed a pay off
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Why keep releasing contracted players?
Payoffs usually equate to ( minimum) 50% of outstanding contract, and that's if players agree ( otherwise 100%)
Add to that the (albeit lower) wage of new signings, and there is not much of a saving on the balance sheet.
Good to get rid of disruptive/ crap/ useless players, but essentially if you give out 12 month contracts, then you are stuck with them.
Better to let them try harder towards the end of the season, to try to earn contracts elsewhere, whilst the manager is targetting new players for next seasons challenge
50% is rubbish mate do not know where you heard that. think you find most at this level cancel there contract for a couple of weeks wages.
Oh we will all be suprised but he was not on contract so would not have needed a pay off
Why would they?
No point in contract if it only takes two weeks notice. The 50% is standard terms and conditions.
Agents, and PFA still control even at this level. The following report suggests he signed a 12month deal
Boston United
In July 2012 he joined Lincoln City on trial.[6] In August he signed a one year deal with Jason Lee's Boston United.[7] Following a managerial change at the club, new United boss Graham Drury released Silk on 12 February 2013 after his university commitments had prevented him from training on thursday nights. Drury added "I need all my players to train on thursday nights". Silk played 26 times for The Pilgirms and made his final appearance against local rivals Gainsborough Trinity.
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Maybe not turning up for training was seen as a breach of contract, so was ripped up by mutual consent?
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Any breach of contract renders it null and void, refusing to train on a Thursday would be a breach of contract. I would say that both parties agreed to terminate or Silk would still be here. One thing Mr Newton is careful about is his money.
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Why keep releasing contracted players?
Payoffs usually equate to ( minimum) 50% of outstanding contract, and that's if players agree ( otherwise 100%)
Add to that the (albeit lower) wage of new signings, and there is not much of a saving on the balance sheet.
Good to get rid of disruptive/ crap/ useless players, but essentially if you give out 12 month contracts, then you are stuck with them.
Better to let them try harder towards the end of the season, to try to earn contracts elsewhere, whilst the manager is targetting new players for next seasons challenge
50% is rubbish mate do not know where you heard that. think you find most at this level cancel there contract for a couple of weeks wages.
Oh we will all be suprised but he was not on contract so would not have needed a pay off
Why would they?
No point in contract if it only takes two weeks notice. The 50% is standard terms and conditions.
Agents, and PFA still control even at this level. The following report suggests he signed a 12month deal
Boston United
In July 2012 he joined Lincoln City on trial.[6] In August he signed a one year deal with Jason Lee's Boston United.[7] Following a managerial change at the club, new United boss Graham Drury released Silk on 12 February 2013 after his university commitments had prevented him from training on thursday nights. Drury added "I need all my players to train on thursday nights". Silk played 26 times for The Pilgirms and made his final appearance against local rivals Gainsborough Trinity.
I seem to remember a similar thing written about Jones re: a 1 year deal and it turned out he was non-contract so it may be that Silk was the same. Or it could be a breach as others have pointed out, can't see us paying loads out (i.e. 50%) to get him off the wage bill.
As far as his release goes he was steady but I thought he got caught out way too many times upfield and cost us a fair amount of goals. He came with a big reputation but imo Connor Marshall has looked better in that position this season so not fussed he's been released.
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Dont think we missed Silk on Saturday.Mayo looks a class player whos played at a good level!