Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: pilgrim4life on December 29, 2012, 06:17:27 PM
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good solid performance and got what we deserved. Carried on the good attacking play from boxing day apart from we took more chances today. Really pleased after the game and really looking forward to corby now. Thought smith on the wing was superb today, i didnt hear the mom today but he was mine. Very good addition. Utp
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Ian Ross was given MOM.
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Another top performance from the lads today. Fully deserved the with creating plenty of chances once again. What a turn around since the appointment of graham Drury. The same bunch of players all but Jordan smith, showing great effort and commitment to Boston united and puttin on a show that our fans deserve.
Well done to Drury and keep up the good work.
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And no new threads on here with dramatic, high impact headings............we must have won!! Funny old game......
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C'mon you Pilgrims. Beware the doom and gloom merchants are looming large and are bound to start saying I told you so! ;)
Actually, no they will be happy today. Full of optimism,verve & vigour for 2013. Cheers :santa
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2 wins and a draw from the last 3 games... a nice bit of momentum building.
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Its nice to have a 'feel good factor' back around the place after 18 months of apathy.
A good honest performance from both teams, and the ref who I thought did well given the conditions.
2000 people through the gate in the last 2 games, if JL had been here we'd have struggled for 1500 and we'd have picked up 2 points at best, not 4.
We still are a long way off being genuine play off material but those lads have put in 2 really good shifts these last 4 days, if we can keep that intensity up we'll not be far off.
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Just shows that the board made the right decision in sacking the previous management team. Graham Drury is the man to take this club forward again!!!
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Great credit to both teams trying to play in those terrible slippery conditions but Boston definitely played better than Oxford, controlled the ball well and deserved the win. I have commented before on the slowing down of Jones so where did that speed come from when he ran into the box and scored a good goal. Is he over the slow phase ? Has the reason for him slowing down left the club ? Has he finally recovered from an injury which slowed him down ? He played good today so congrats to him and I hope to see more of it. Sorry N40s, have to disagree with u about the dumpling with the whistle. Experience should improve a performance but he is still crap, he was determined to get Oxford a goal even if he had to give them 10 consecutive free kicks. If he did his job well he wouldn't have needed to tell GD off about him getting at the dumpling. Haysted, Ross played well even though they have both received lots of slagging off on here. Perhaps the reason for lots of poor results and performances has also left the club. Lets hope for more positive results and personal performances with GD.
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Just shows that the board made the right decision in sacking the previous management team. Graham Drury is the man to take this club forward again!!!
Looks like GD's got something else in common with the last Stamford manager to move here.............his own online fan club!
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well done lads ,
Good match ,then most are when we win , great to see the look on the new managers face when he left the pitch . :)
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Just shows that the board made the right decision in sacking the previous management team. Graham Drury is the man to take this club forward again!!!
Looks like GD's got something else in common with the last Stamford manager to move here.............his own online fan club!
Well certainly the postings suggest this! 8)
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cracking result today and the manager is really ticking all the right boxes with me ;D plenty of passion on the sideline, done a fantastic slip and slide on ya ass celebration ( anyone see it ? ) after our second and looks to have got us playing some good stuff once again. was anyone surprised with the official announcement on the gate total at the end ?? to me, and those around me, we all agreed there looked a lot more in the ground that was stated !!!! maybe its the usual freebie guys getting extra's for there mates now ::)
time the club looked into this, as its costing us money. any turnstile operatives that are letting in "friends" should be sacked too ( it does happen !! ) anyway , back to the positives of today, 3 well deserved points :)
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cracking result today and the manager is really ticking all the right boxes with me ;D plenty of passion on the sideline, done a fantastic slip and slide on ya ass celebration ( anyone see it ? ) after our second and looks to have got us playing some good stuff once again. was anyone surprised with the official announcement on the gate total at the end ?? to me, and those around me, we all agreed there looked a lot more in the ground that was stated !!!! maybe its the usual freebie guys getting extra's for there mates now ::)
time the club looked into this, as its costing us money. any turnstile operatives that are letting in "friends" should be sacked too ( it does happen !! ) anyway , back to the positives of today, 3 well deserved points :)
If I were you I'd amend that post re the gate, I've had phone calls from the club in the past, they are VERY sensitive on this issue.........and the gatemen are volunteers, they give up their time to do that job so be careful there, I know I'd be pi$$ed off if someone accused me of fiddling when I was doing something for free.
But I agree, the freebie culture needs knocking on the head, when I came to the Chester game with my cousin we were offered 4 or 5 freebies in the club, this can't be right. Players should get 2 max for FAMILY only and the programme sellers/50/50 sellers matchday helpers should also get in free but after that I see no reason why anyone should be allowed in free, be it through friend or family connections. If they want to support the club pay like the others, don't turn up expecting a free ticket, its not supporting the club, its freeloading.
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The ref was awful today and could of got more decisions right by flipping a coin Andy. Probably the worst we have had this season and there have been some strong contenders. Pitch conditions cannot be blamed for simple decisions like their player obviously kicking the ball out of play and giving them a thow, Haystead and their player collided whilst Haystead already had the ball in his hands yet gave a drop ball, Jordan clearly got chopped down by their defender making no attempt to win the ball yet waved away free kick appeals, perfect tackle from Ward making contact only with the ball yet gave them a free kick, four minutes of added time second half yet in reality there should have been a maximum of two. Many more poor decisions i havent metioned. Boston players complained to the ref several times about poor decisions which is uncharacteristic of our player.
On the plus side the lads were excellent today 1-11 and played as well as any home game this season. New signing Smith looked very good, quick and strong.
Agreed on the freebie front surely the club need every customer paying!
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Don,t think you can question the added time Carl , 6 subs and the Haystead injury to be allowed for .
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Haystead injury was in the added time, the subs were quick and both teams made their final sub at the same time.
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The ref was awful today and could of got more decisions right by flipping a coin Andy. Probably the worst we have had this season and there have been some strong contenders. Pitch conditions cannot be blamed for simple decisions like their player obviously kicking the ball out of play and giving them a thow, Haystead and their player collided whilst Haystead already had the ball in his hands yet gave a drop ball, Jordan clearly got chopped down by their defender making no attempt to win the ball yet waved away free kick appeals, perfect tackle from Ward making contact only with the ball yet gave them a free kick, four minutes of added time second half yet in reality there should have been a maximum of two. Many more poor decisions i havent metioned. Boston players complained to the ref several times about poor decisions which is uncharacteristic of our player.
On the plus side the lads were excellent today 1-11 and played as well as any home game this season. New signing Smith looked very good, quick and strong.
Agreed on the freebie front surely the club need every customer paying!
Funny that Carl, I spoke to an ex and current player in the club after the game while waiting for Endeavour FM's roving reporter to finish and both said they thought the ref did really well. They also said it helps when he talks to players through the game..........that wasn't a tough game to handle today and a picky,officious ref would have pulled the cards out a lot sooner than that guy today. He's at this level for a reason, just like the players are, so I think credit where its due, we're not going to get Howard Webb or Mark Clettenburg quality officiating down here just like we're not going to get Premiership quality players........all I'm saying is I think all concerned performed to the best of their abilities in very challenging conditions.
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cracking result today and the manager is really ticking all the right boxes with me ;D plenty of passion on the sideline, done a fantastic slip and slide on ya ass celebration ( anyone see it ? ) after our second and looks to have got us playing some good stuff once again. was anyone surprised with the official announcement on the gate total at the end ?? to me, and those around me, we all agreed there looked a lot more in the ground that was stated !!!! maybe its the usual freebie guys getting extra's for there mates now ::)
time the club looked into this, as its costing us money. any turnstile operatives that are letting in "friends" should be sacked too ( it does happen !! ) anyway , back to the positives of today, 3 well deserved points :)
If I were you I'd amend that post re the gate, I've had phone calls from the club in the past, they are VERY sensitive on this issue.........and the gatemen are volunteers, they give up their time to do that job so be careful there, I know I'd be pi$$ed off if someone accused me of fiddling when I was doing something for free.
But I agree, the freebie culture needs knocking on the head, when I came to the Chester game with my cousin we were offered 4 or 5 freebies in the club, this can't be right. Players should get 2 max for FAMILY only and the programme sellers/50/50 sellers matchday helpers should also get in free but after that I see no reason why anyone should be allowed in free, be it through friend or family connections. If they want to support the club pay like the others, don't turn up expecting a free ticket, its not supporting the club, its freeloading.
KON, you listening? ;)
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Conversely I don't blame anyone for taking one if offered one, if I were offered one I would!
The club need to tighten up on this though because its clear there is widespread abuse of the complimentary ticket system.
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Conversely I don't blame anyone for taking one if offered one, if I were offered one I would!
The club need to tighten up on this though because its clear there is widespread abuse of the complimentary ticket system.
Amazing, I hope this post stays here! ??? Just for note, I have never taken a freebie and always paid my way.
I've tried to be polite. 8)
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Fair enough we all see it different which is part of the beauty of the game, can't argue that it wasn't an easy game for anyone involved.
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I repeat my post above! 8)
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Why is it amazing?
99% of people would do the same.
Its the allocation system thats wrong, its wide open to abuse.
Don't get all pious about it, only a fool would pay when offered a free ticket.
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Well, perhaps I am more benevolent than the likes of yourself? ;) My goodwill remains evident in many forms.
My target is philanthropic! How about you and KON? 8)
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For anyone who hasn't been with a sponsor party at the club(in which i have) will know that when the turnstyle turns to let a person in regardless of payed or free or season ticket you are counted. The system is electronic (hence the non use of counters any more) and is fed in real time data to the control/police or whatever you wish to call it in the corner of York street. I have watched this system working with my own eyes and counts all
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Oh nearly forgot. got to say what a decent game today was, Althou i dont agree with MOT i thought jones making way for jorden made us look balanced. I also think that one of our front 2 needs to make way for jones. Just who i have no idea
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Regardless. as I say above
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Yes the ref was diaobolical today. We have seen him here before and ive never seen him have a good game. As well as looking unfit he was one sided not only IMO but others standing nearby me. You didnt need rose coloured glasses to see that either. Yes a stronger ref would have given out cards, the first 3 to oxford players tackles from behind and i could go on. The time wasting they carried out without any objection from the 'man' in black during their throw ins well acceptable, but when we scored the second goal he was soon on our backs blowing his whistle to chase our players back to work. He seemed desperate to get Oxford back in the game
Excellent work from our squad today again. My motm Tom Ward although such good performances all round difficult to choose. Well done lads, now looking forward to Tues weather permitting. 8)
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Good assessment of the ref Scot. The problem is of course that the FA won't do anything about him. As long as some pudding is prepared to take up the whistle and turn out for games then they are happy. The only explanation for his performance is either complete incompetence or being very anti Boston United. I think a part of their training involves being told to laugh or smile when being abused because that is what happens in all games. It cannot possibly be that they really are fecking useless at the job. Bring back that female ref, she was bloody good at the job.
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Without doubt in the last couple of games since the new manager arrived the effort and workrate has risen and it seems pretty clear the penny has dropped very quickly that its, give it 100% or your out. To be fair almost everyone has upped their game but to me one player in particular has made one hell of a diferrence in the last couple of games, and that player is Ben Milnes, from being a good young prospect but one who was easilly muscled off the ball, he seems to have suddenly blossomed into a battling ball winner who has begun getting between both boxes yet still playing some lovely passess, the through ball to Marc Jones for his second today was exquisite, particularly in those conditions. Yes without doubt we still need strengthening in some areas but I am sure the manager now knows this and will act when able to do so. Looking forward to Corby and another test for our who team I feel are on the up.
PS Good to hear Paul Holden is home recovering, All the best to him and look forward to his first appearance.
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Only my third game of the season and courtesy of xmas at mums in bury my first home match and i dont know what the moaning has been about ;D
collectively i thought thre lads were brill, noone can knock the general work rate at all, bar perhaps newsham who i thought even allowing for the fact that he did what hes good at putting the ball in thre old onion bag, i thouight could have worked a lot harder. mom to me and by miles was Ward and perhaps another experienced left sided CH next to him would shore up the defence.
I also thouigt the game changed when Jones came on who showed great guile and attitiude, and if any future signings drury makes are going to have the impact of smith then i say bring them on. apparently he is a wheeler dealer, probably one of tghe biggest reasons her got the job and i reckon 2,3,4 new players may arrive next month
But really enjoyed it inspite of a really boggy pitch and considering the awful weathet the fact that nearly 900 turned out to watch it suggests a lot more have the feel good facter now the new manager is in place
Hope to get to corby tuesday and if they play like that again i can smell a real tanking coming on...what a smashing day out, all that was missing as the singing in the rain chant which I used to love ;D
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Without doubt in the last couple of games since the new manager arrived the effort and workrate has risen and it seems pretty clear the penny has dropped very quickly that its, give it 100% or your out. To be fair almost everyone has upped their game but to me one player in particular has made one hell of a diferrence in the last couple of games, and that player is Ben Milnes, from being a good young prospect but one who was easilly muscled off the ball, he seems to have suddenly blossomed into a battling ball winner who has begun getting between both boxes yet still playing some lovely passess, the through ball to Marc Jones for his second today was exquisite, particularly in those conditions. Yes without doubt we still need strengthening in some areas but I am sure the manager now knows this and will act when able to do so. Looking forward to Corby and another test for our who team I feel are on the up.
PS Good to hear Paul Holden is home recovering, All the best to him and look forward to his first appearance.
totally agree Mel!
Its a shame it needs a sacking to get the players performing 100%
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Like the fact we actually come out with some spirit in the second half , the amount of times under JL we just gave home games away in the second half without a fight.
GD is good entertainment at one stage I thought he was playing.
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We dominated possession yesterday especially first half, but didn't create the chances we did against Corby. Out of the 2 thought the Corby performance was the better but we still played well yesterday on a tricky pitch.
Oxford were very poor, one of the worst we have played this season, really not sure how they are top half based on the 2 games we have played against them. Take nothing away from the lads though are great team effort from every one, pleased Ross has knuckled down and decided to figt for his place in the team. I've been critical of him but he's had 2 very good games under GD although I thought the new lad Jordan Smith edged him for MOTM.
Good point raised about our second half performances in the last 2 games, under JL we nearly always had a poor second half undoing any good work we put in the first. Also a great celebration from GD for the second goal, that enthusiasm must rub off on the players.
All in all very optimistic that results and performances will continue to improve, the atmosphere is also returning - the doom and gloom around the ground is thankfully lifting. All very encouraging :D
Edit: picking up on a few other points raised:
1) I would have estimated crowd at 900-1000, so just under 900 is about right. It was clearly down by a few hundred from boxing day.
2) Free comps is something I have been saying for a while needs to be looked at. Personally anything above what is officially required (players, press etc.), I would try to knock on the head if it was up to me. Can't see what the club gain from programme and 50/50 sellers, what they gain from this is almost all swallowed up in losing entry fees. Other clubs these jobs (and many more) are done by volunteers which is one of the reason clubs with 200/300 compete with us.
3) The ref was poor today. At least 3 times one of our players slid in, won the ball cleanly and a free kick was given. Have to say he let a few sliding tackles go the other way. I find generally we get more decisions when we play away from home, I think refs go out of their way to make sure they are not labelled "homers" but go too far the other way. This is something I have noticed for a while.
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cracking result today and the manager is really ticking all the right boxes with me ;D plenty of passion on the sideline, done a fantastic slip and slide on ya ass celebration ( anyone see it ? ) after our second and looks to have got us playing some good stuff once again. was anyone surprised with the official announcement on the gate total at the end ?? to me, and those around me, we all agreed there looked a lot more in the ground that was stated !!!! maybe its the usual freebie guys getting extra's for there mates now ::)
time the club looked into this, as its costing us money. any turnstile operatives that are letting in "friends" should be sacked too ( it does happen !! ) anyway , back to the positives of today, 3 well deserved points :)
if you know that this is happenng you should report it to the Club immediately.....I believe that the guys on the gates are volunteers and they do an excellent job for the club.....Im sure that they would be concerned aswell if they knew that one of their colleagues are letting people in for nothing....wih respect get your facts correct and inform the club....without delay
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noone can knock the general work rate at all, bar perhaps newsham who i thought even allowing for the fact that he did what hes good at putting the ball in thre old onion bag, i thouight could have worked a lot harder.
You've summed him up perfectly!
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Newsham looks like he doesn't work hard, but he is often moving around, trying to find gaps to exploit... give him the ball in the penalty area with a yard of space and he'll get his shot on target the vast majority of the time.
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The only thing we need worry about with Newsham is being joint 2nd highest goalscorer in our league and therefore on the radar of any club looking for such a player. He works hard for the team in a controlled and disciplined manner, obviously keeping something in the tank for when he gets a sniff of a goal.
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Newsham looks like he doesn't work hard, but he is often moving around, trying to find gaps to exploit... give him the ball in the penalty area with a yard of space and he'll get his shot on target the vast majority of the time.
has Newsh ever been spotted in the centre circle with his hands on his hips?
i really dont know why he gets slagged off :(
hes nearly a goal a game man and he pops up in BOTH Penalty areas!
how does he get from to other...taxi?
i guess he'll be one of the players appreciated more when hes not here
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Newsham looks like he doesn't work hard, but he is often moving around, trying to find gaps to exploit... give him the ball in the penalty area with a yard of space and he'll get his shot on target the vast majority of the time.
has Newsh ever been spotted in the centre circle with his hands on his hips?
i really dont know why he gets slagged off :(
hes nearly a goal a game man and he pops up in BOTH Penalty areas!
how does he get from to other...taxi?
i guess he'll be one of the players appreciated more when hes not here
I dont think p86 was slagging newsh more defending him in regards to the many comments of weekly idiots who seem to slate his work rate etc week in week out.
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The one thing H & S did not deliver when here was a quality big strike partner for Newsham . After all the dominence against Corby and only one goal return it was good to see a big striker with finesse do the business yesterday . Can see Newsham and Jones pairing carrying us to the play-offs , SWD used as a tactical change when needed .
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Newsham looks like he doesn't work hard, but he is often moving around, trying to find gaps to exploit... give him the ball in the penalty area with a yard of space and he'll get his shot on target the vast majority of the time.
has Newsh ever been spotted in the centre circle with his hands on his hips?
i really dont know why he gets slagged off :(
hes nearly a goal a game man and he pops up in BOTH Penalty areas!
how does he get from to other...taxi?
i guess he'll be one of the players appreciated more when hes not here
I dont think p86 was slagging newsh more defending him in regards to the many comments of weekly idiots who seem to slate his work rate etc week in week out.
Sorry P86 if I appeared to disagree with you.
I was actually underlining your statement.
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cracking result today and the manager is really ticking all the right boxes with me ;D plenty of passion on the sideline, done a fantastic slip and slide on ya ass celebration ( anyone see it ? ) after our second and looks to have got us playing some good stuff once again. was anyone surprised with the official announcement on the gate total at the end ?? to me, and those around me, we all agreed there looked a lot more in the ground that was stated !!!! maybe its the usual freebie guys getting extra's for there mates now ::)
time the club looked into this, as its costing us money. any turnstile operatives that are letting in "friends" should be sacked too ( it does happen !! ) anyway , back to the positives of today, 3 well deserved points :)
MyLeftFoot never used my freebie yesterday! It was torn up and thrown in the bin!
If I were you I'd amend that post re the gate, I've had phone calls from the club in the past, they are VERY sensitive on this issue.........and the gatemen are volunteers, they give up their time to do that job so be careful there, I know I'd be pi$$ed off if someone accused me of fiddling when I was doing something for free.
But I agree, the freebie culture needs knocking on the head, when I came to the Chester game with my cousin we were offered 4 or 5 freebies in the club, this can't be right. Players should get 2 max for FAMILY only and the programme sellers/50/50 sellers matchday helpers should also get in free but after that I see no reason why anyone should be allowed in free, be it through friend or family connections. If they want to support the club pay like the others, don't turn up expecting a free ticket, its not supporting the club, its freeloading.
KON, you listening? ;)
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Newsham? Lazy? :-\ Been saying it for months ::)
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The one thing H & S did not deliver when here was a quality big strike partner for Newsham . After all the dominence against Corby and only one goal return it was good to see a big striker with finesse do the business yesterday . Can see Newsham and Jones pairing carrying us to the play-offs , SWD used as a tactical change when needed .
Agree with you on this ghm, although it wouldn't surprise me to see another target man-type striker arrive soon. :dan
mom for me was Smith, Ross was much improved, and the ref was awful.
Regarding comps, when one fan can produce the following remarks within the space of a few hours it shows just how confusing the situation has become:-
"If they want to support the club pay like the others, don't turn up expecting a free ticket, its not supporting the club, its freeloading."
"Conversely I don't blame anyone for taking one if offered one, if I were offered one I would!"
"The club need to tighten up on this though because its clear there is widespread abuse of the complimentary ticket system."
"Why is it amazing?
99% of people would do the same.
Its the allocation system thats wrong, its wide open to abuse.
Don't get all pious about it, only a fool would pay when offered a free ticket."
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This man wants to support the football club that he loves, but finds himself unable to resist the lure of a dodgy comp. He encourages others to become free-loading gravy-trainers, leeching onto the soft underbelly of the club and draining off it's lifeblood.
This is the football club, that only survived due to the benevolence of a local businessman and has struggled to break even every year since. It is probably deeper in debt than ever before and yet it does nothing to stop this drain on its resources. Would it be that difficult to get a list of names and details of legitimate recipients of these comps so that they can be checked on entry to the ground?
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That makes me a fool then because in the 35+ years (man & boy)I have supported Boston United I have never taken a free ticket to get into York St.(and I have been offered a few in that time) And yes I agree every one has the right to there own opinion whether they accept one or not (that they are not entitled too that is) The only thing I do object too is those who do accept them (on a regular basis) should not come on here moaning and groaning why we have not bought this or that player or about budgets the club has set for the season
And I do agree the club should look into this in more detail for there own good.
ok rant over
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE
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That makes me a fool then because in the 35+ years (man & boy)I have supported Boston United I have never taken a free ticket to get into York St.(and I have been offered a few in that time) And yes I agree every one has the right to there own opinion whether they accept one or not (that they are not entitled too that is) The only thing I do object too is those who do accept them (on a regular basis) should not come on here moaning and groaning why we have not bought this or that player or about budgets the club has set for the season
And I do agree the club should look into this in more detail for there own good.
ok rant over
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONEAgree! Norty40 can tell you a story about that!
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Ok lets stop all freebies! Dont think the club sponsors will be happy!
Lets stop this community club teams and just keep the youth set up!
Make players friends and family pay to watch!
Dont pay the stewards 15/20 a match!
Then we would see the true supporter!
By the way I volunteer to be a steward for free!
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GD reckons Ross was outstanding! ??? MUST have got him mixed up with Milnes........... ;)
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Ok lets stop all freebies! Dont think the club sponsors will be happy!
Lets stop this community club teams and just keep the youth set up!
Make players friends and family pay to watch!
Dont pay the stewards 15/20 a match!
Then we would see the true supporter!
By the way I volunteer to be a steward for free!
As you well know Mr KON I was not talking about the legit comp tickets that get passed out through the proper channels and official schemes the club runs.
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What tickets then?