Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: noughtyforties on September 04, 2012, 09:43:11 PM
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Craig's words on Utd Live a few moments ago, not mine.
Last 15 games
Won 3
Drawn 2
Lost 10
Come on David, you have to act NOW, its the 1st week in September and the season is in crisis already. Surely you can see he's not up to the job, take a hit and get rid now.
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Well Norty40 it's about time Dave listens to us or makes a statement to support the manager!
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3-2 down after 52 minutes, Craig's commentary implied that we didn't even look like scoring for long periods following that and yet a change wasn't made until the 80th minute?? Absolute basics, surely?? I think Arnold Town may be his coaching/management level...........
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Maybe the Newt is far too interested in the new stadium deal (£££) rather than what's happening on the pitch?
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Time for those wanting chance to be constructive and suggest who they think should be manager .
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Evening Monty! Time to return with some banners in the car park!
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Evening Monty! Time to return with some banners in the car park!
Yes, I agree. I know Newton is a lifelong Lincoln City fan but he still has to do the right thing for Boston United. If he acts now we can save our season.
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Time for those wanting chance to be constructive and suggest who they think should be manager .
Well lets hope whoever gets the job actually fits the advertised criteria this time..........thats assuming David does the decent thing and makes the change.
The bottom line is results in this game, and Jason Lee's not getting them and hasn't been doing for 13 months on anything like a consistent basis.
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Evening Monty! Time to return with some banners in the car park!
Yes, I agree. I know Newton is a lifelong Lincoln City fan but he still has to do the right thing for Boston United. If he acts now we can save our season.
Hahaha... you are funny Monty.
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Thought about going tonight but work meant that I couldn't and glad I had 5-a-side instead after that.
It does come to something when even Craig was despairing and seeing something wrong with the team but we still cannot say what.
Could it be:
Keeper? - some are saying that he has been at fault for more than 1 goal in just 6 games, is this a problem
Defence? - its been clear to me that we are missing an experienced no nonsense centre half to impose himself on the opposition and organise the other centre half who can be more inexperienced. We tried 2 inexperienced together last year and look where it got us. It's clear we are shipping too many goals, especially in the last 4 games. You build from the back and we are not solid and so are always going to struggle.
Midfield? - clearly missing Wilson as a holding player and need to decide how we are going to play. Best is to play 3 with Ross, Wilson, Milnes/Reed. But we are clueless as to how we are playing and until this is settled then we are always going to be lost. That does come from the bench and we are not getting it.
Up front? - SWD is scoring for fun in last few games which is great and Newsh has pedigree from last season. Jones got goals until he was injured so is fine but never been convinced by Fairclough as he isn't a winger for a 4-4-2 but could do a job as part of 3.
Bench? - time is running out for Lee. As NF said, the last 15 games going into last season (not counting the glorified training sessions that are pre season friendlies and lincs senior cup) as well is appalling, no other word for it.
I don't agree with NF that we have a devine right to be in the top 5 and having watched Boston for 22 years, then I have seen us at this level more than anything else but we always challenged at the top end, even with the shambles of a club that was the Sterland and early Fee years.
There has got to be some improvement on saturday as this would be a sixth of the season completed after this and if we had less than a point a game then we are in deep trouble.
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Know anyone who fits the criteria N/F ?
Good constructive post from CP.
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The record says it all,
JL says we are fittest in league and were knackered at half time,
We have no central defenders miller ans stanfield not good enough,
And Haystead needs to get Agrip too many errors already.
Why was ward in midfield then thrown up front and no subs till last 10mins,
Maybe Sir David (as some of you seem to think he is) needs to ditch fitness coach,manager and that assistant manager as it is clear to all that none of previously mentioned have a clue what is going on but it is not good enough this team IS worse than last years.
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Well said Garry!
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ward as a midfielder come attacker.......sounds like desperation............
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Maybe done better with Ward in goal !!!!!!!!!
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How long a contract was given to Jason Lee this summer?
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Too long ?
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Dont agree with gerry about stainfeild. I think he has been one of our best players. Takes a lot of doing when you are nearly propping up 3 out of 4 at the back
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From where I was standing Haystead appeared to misjudge the flight of the ball for Oxford's first goal. There may be an excuse in that the floodlights were amongst the worst I have seen, and the Oxford keeper also mishandled a routine catch out for a corner in the second half.
From a poor start, we were then dominant for the remainder of the first half, with Oxford unable to cope with the pace of Weir-Daley and Fairclough. Two well taken goals from Weir-Daley, and you'd have to say we were the best side and deserved to be in the lead at half-time.
I'm not sure what was said during the half-time break, but we didn't switch on at the start of the second half. Within a matter of minutes we were 3-2 down. The worrying thing from there is that, for the remainder of the game, we did not produce a meaningful attempt to trouble the Oxford goalkeeper. Weir-Daley and Fairclough worked hard and Ward did enough to justify his inclusion on Saturday, hopefully at centre half alongside Stainfield. But too many players didn't perform on the night.
It was a long away trip for part-time players, many of whom may have done a day at work beforehand, and you can make that excuse for losing at Oxford. But it doesn't apply to any of the previous games against Hinckley, Bishop's Stortford or Workington.
After about an hour I thought we needed a change from the bench to threshen things up, but Jason waited until around the 80th minute. When we did finally make a change, we threw on three substitutes virtually all at once. It usually takes time for subs to become acclimatised to the speed of a game, etc., and I thought we didn't allow the subs anywhere near enough time to make an impact. (Stokes did force the keeper into one save, but it was a fairly routine block at his near post). Additionally, because of the chaos caused by throwing three on together, we lost our shape and Oxford broke and scored again in stoppage time.
Not sure where we go from here, other than Colwyn Bay. If the chairman does decide to pull the rug from under the manager's feet, then the position will have to be advertised. I can't think of anyone in the dressing room currently who would be qualified to take over in a caretaker manager capacity. (Last season there were plenty of candidates - Alan White, Kevin Austin, Paul Bastock, etc). With no obvious replacement to call upon for a short-term vacancy, I think the chairman will wait until after Saturday before making any decision. But it needs to be spelled out that the current sequence of results and performances is not acceptable and both have to improve straight away. If I were chairman I'd be thinking about requesting Steve Welsh to make the journey to Wales on Saturday to take a look at things for himself. He would be the obvious candidate if we needed to look for a short-term caretaker manager, and there comes a point at which the chairman needs to look after the club's best interests.
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I've been 100% behind JL up until now and have seen signs that we have the makings of a decent team...but that second half "performance" is one of, if not the worst I have had the misfortune to watch in the last few seasons including many abysmal performance when we where nearly relegated from the Unibond.
After conceding a very soft goal in the first few mins we went on to pretty much dominate the first half as LP has said. The goal apart they created nothing. I thought mistakenly just keep it tight and play the same way second half and we'd be fine as they showed nothing. Not sure where to begin with the second half. Haystead at fault for at least goals 1 and 3 but being let down by some of our defending isn't helping.
There was a big hole where our midfield should have been, Ross and Ward (who isn't a midfielder tbf) getting caught out too far up the pitch time and time again. The forward line where working off scraps but we had 1 meaningful shot all second half. The team lost all shape and looked in need of a leader, this leadership has got to come from the bench.
For anyone who wasn't there they where another very poor team. As I said after Saturday what happens at half time that changes a team so much, 4 games in a row where we have gone from being the better team to a shambles.
And if I hear anyone say "well we don't have a very good budget" they can need to take a look at what they are saying, Oxford City got a grand attendance tonight of 203, at least 50 (there where probably more) from Boston. Go on tell me that they and the likes of Vauxhall Motors, Histon and Hinckley have better budgets on a couple of hundred fans. Answer is they don't so give that sh*t a rest, there's enough talent in this team to be seeing off all 4 of the last opponents we've played.
Maybe it is time for JL to go, he doesn't seem to know his strongest starting 11 (every game there's changes, admittedly injuries aren't helping), he doesn't know what his best system is 4-3-3, 4-4-2, a defensive midfielder, no defensive midfielder and as for his HT team talk whatever it is he says seems to have the opposite effect. There's something wrong, I think we have the players and in patches we've looked a good team but we have a soft underbelly and are gifting teams goals whereas we are having to work really hard for ours. I would give JL a maximum of Colwyn Bay and Chester to put it right, fail to take something from both those games and he has to go IMO.
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Once again spot on........ :(
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I'd put Haystead at fault for 2 of the goals the defence as a whole in the second half was poor. Even in the first half I held my breath after every free kick was pumped into the box (and we gave away a lot). I said as much to Craig at half time.
They put a speedy winger on at half time (if the players had read the match programme it'd have been enough scouting to know the guy was quick.... it told you so. What do we do, give him bags of time and space and low and behold he skins Silk for pace after two mins, heads go down, we hoof it and go on to lose.
Defence is the biggest area of concern we've all these massive lads but are second to the high ball. The keeper is routed to his line to often and the back five look to be lacking in confidence as a unit. Thought Field did Ok but even he could not stay with speedy winger at the end.
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Agree WP. 4points at least from the next two games is a must .
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But it needs to be spelled out that the current sequence of results and performances is not acceptable and both have to improve straight away.
I don't agree, never did anyone any good to make them aware you are about to sack them. Jason will know it's not good enough, if he can't turn it round, he goes and a petty press release to say that isn't worth it for the long term. If you keep quiet and we then go on a bit of a run of results, you can then smuggly say you always had faith.
That said, I don't now think things will now change, I was happy to give Jason another go, but not having addressed the build from the back mentality of lower league football we've got a team graced with pretty little footballers and nothing to stop teams waltzing through us for fun.
Prove us all wrong Jason.
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I agree wholeheartedly LCB with those sentiments.
I wanted, and still do, for Jason to succeed because it would mean a successful Boston team but it's clear that the Droylsden win was against a side everyone else is beating and that the Histon win was looking like a one off as the other teams we have lost to have struggled (Hinckley, BS, Workington and to a lesser extent Oxford although it was their first home win out of 3 games), against the remainder of the league.
Colwyn Bay have been like us by winning the first two then losing the last 4, so Saturday really is the watermark