Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: milo1972 on August 27, 2012, 06:56:01 PM
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Just got back from the match and after the battling win at Droylsden and the emphatic win against Histon im very disappointed with today performance. Not even a shot for their goalkeeper to save !! Not good enough for the tremendous 200 or so followers today. Enough said !
UTP .....
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If I'd not got that season ticket on the cheap I'd have struggled to get the motivation to pay to watch this current side because I've said from day one Jason Lee is not a good manager and the results this weekend have borne that out against two average sides. This has been a very comfortable set of opening fixtures but we've once again made a pigs ear of things and instead of a haul of 10-12 points we've got 6........can you see Guisley, Brackley,Massivefax and Chester losing to the two we've lost two?
Sorry to hear you've had a wasted day mate, the support this club has deserves so much better than what we are getting and the root of the problem should have left last summer when Lee Cannoville went. It Tommy Taylor MkII, old failings are not being addressed and a complete lack of enthusiasm is patently obvious. Next thing we know we'll be out of the FA Cup mid September, we'll be 12-15 points off the leaders and it'll be another season of 'consolidation'........
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I thought we probably had the lion's share of the possession (sorry), but we didn't do anywhere near enough with it. There was the goal and then there was a goalmouth scramble in the second half, but otherwise Stortford didn't create a great deal either. Once they'd scored they were generally more interested in running the clock down, and took an age with goal kicks, substitutions and set pieces. The ref had a word with some of their players, but probably should have produced one or two yellow cards for time wasting.
Milo1972 is correct about their goalkeeper not having a shot to save. Weir-Daley did put the ball in the net in the second half but it was ruled out for offside. It was a tight decision and might have gone for us on another day. But that was the sum total of our efforts on target. Newsham had two headers in the first half, but one went wide and the other went over.
We appealed for a penalty in the second half when Kallum Smith went over in the box. I thought he went down much too easily, and in all honesty the ref was right to book him for diving. Gary Silk also picked up a booking in the first half and was probably lucky, as it looked quite a bad challenge.
Jones didn't have the impact today that he had against Histon, but I'm not sure our tactics were right once we'd taken him off. A lot of the balls forward were still in the air, and Smith, Newsham, Weir-Daley and Fairclough didn't have much of a chance of winning them against the Stortford defenders. Dare I say it, but if we're going to stick with the long ball forward then we'd be better off introducing Jason Lee from the bench.
On a positive, I did think Jason Stokes had a decent game considering this was his competitive debut.
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Yes it will be a long season if we play the long ball game >:(, Did JL have much input from the dugout LP?
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I thought we looked good for the first 15 mins and even after they scored (as our defence went to sleep) thought we'd get back into the game. Agreed Stokes played well and put some quality crosses in that begged to be finished. Could not understand for the life of me us taking Jones off to then hoof it to the smallest forwards we have. Also what was Wilson on lost count of the number of missed passes, blocks and tackles.
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Optimism at its best! At least wait a few more games before condemning the team. Cant tell anything this early, just look at the premier league.
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If I'd not got that season ticket on the cheap I'd have struggled to get the motivation to pay to watch this current side because I've said from day one Jason Lee is not a good manager and the results this weekend have borne that out against two average sides. This has been a very comfortable set of opening fixtures but we've once again made a pigs ear of things and instead of a haul of 10-12 points we've got 6........can you see Guisley, Brackley,Massivefax and Chester losing to the two we've lost two?
Sorry to hear you've had a wasted day mate, the support this club has deserves so much better than what we are getting and the root of the problem should have left last summer when Lee Cannoville went. It Tommy Taylor MkII, old failings are not being addressed and a complete lack of enthusiasm is patently obvious. Next thing we know we'll be out of the FA Cup mid September, we'll be 12-15 points off the leaders and it'll be another season of 'consolidation'........
Sorry Andy but one thing JL cannot be slated for is lack of enthusiasm. I've seen him at reserve games, pays for the fitness coach out of his own pocket, took a pay cut in the summer and i've spoken to two of last seasons squad who have now departed and both had the upmost respect for him as a manager. Enthusiasm shouldn't be mesaured by how how red in the face and how much hot air is produced by the manager during ninety minutes aka Evans and Scott.
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:danevery player gave there all;just something to moan about thou ;stainfield is brill in air;but sloppy on the ground he will alway's give pen's 'or f/kick's away we do need another c/back for cover;we have no leader's; sorry but jellyman should give up armband ;haystead has been quick in other game's to have a go at young marshall ;but today was not firm enough with is back line ;i thought stoke's should have had 90 min's;;just hope lee and hyde have it in them to reconise that 2 or 3 reguler's wan't to shape up (we have a very good squad and i hope to be at the next game )
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Agree with the title of the thread as I felt the same when I walked out the ground. However having had the drive home to calm down got a bit of perspective.
Yep got to say this is the sort of team we need to be beating if we are going to be up there. They where big and hard working nothing more. Up until the goal thought we where well on top, after it we had a bit of a lull but finished the first half strongly. As well as Newsh's 2 headers (1 of which he really should have buried), Fairclough also had a header that he should have put away. Second half again we ran out of ideas and no their keeper didn't make 1 single save, not nearly good enough.
So not the greatest performance agreed, but there where signs of encouragement IMO. The long ball game was largely dispensed with and some of our approach play was good, just the final ball was either not quite right or the forwards couldn't quite get on the end of them. It's a young team and we'll get some inconsistencies to start with. As long as we learn from this and learn fast it's not a disaster as there is still plenty of the season to turn it round.
The difference between the first couple of games and the last 2 is that first 2 teams came at us where the last 2 have defended in numbers. We need to work out how to break down teams that play like that and I think we'll be ok. The squad assembled this season is better than last year, it has to remembered also that their where plenty of new signings playing today, Stokes, Haystead, Miller, Silk, Jones and Wilson. Once they settle I'm optimistic that things will improve, just as we shouldn't have got carried away with 2 wins we shouldn't get carried away with 2 defeats.
Andy there'll be shocks all season who's to say Hinckley or BS won't beat any of the front runners (Hinckley won 5-2 away at Nuneaton last season)? Who would have though Histon would have won both their games after the mauling we gave them?
I have my reservations about JL don't get me wrong, mainly around not playing our strongest formation, but he's the manager and sees the players in training and obviously knows more than a fan. But he's signed some good young players and I think (hope) he'll get it right.
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Early days yet, the new lads need more time to bed in. I am a little concerned that we do not want to commit players forwards, if we lose then lose 3-2, go for it and get the ground buzzing.
we have plenty of players who can cause any team problems, get it wide and feed the box!!
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you can almost feel the frustration everywhere again.
several of us keep saying this is not good enough, but all we do is get slagged off by the happy clappers and club plants on this forum.
how can we lose to these last two sides -- neither of them had a point when they played us, and to not have one shot on target that their keeper had to save is absolutely pathetic.
we dont seem to have any passion on the pitch, or obvious team organisation off it.
two very difficult away games coming up after Saturday--i'm beginning to feel this will be just like last year all over again.
Still as Gainsborough's manager said on Radio Lincoln after the match they are only 10 points off the leaders!! what planet is he on?
By the way where was Jason after the match. No bottle to be interviewed on the radio.
Worrying times
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Didn't get over excited by the two wins, won't over-react for the two defeats. It's still only week 2 of the season, enjoy this bit of the season while it lasts as the business end is agony whether at the top, bottom or worse not involved.
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I have vowed to give it six games before I comment on any individuals so this is a generalisation. I honestly feel we have the making of a good team with the odd exception, but the most important objective is getting the best out of them and organising them so their obvious talent blends together to produce a team that has the capability to challenge for honours. After a long pre-season with many games under the belt it still does not appear we are any nearer to knowing what the starting line up should be, and indeed which system we should be playing. This does reflect badly on the management, being two ex top flight players they must realise this, and also realise that unless they get to grips and show better organisational skills their days may be numbered.
I am not panicking, as I have said I feel we have the talent and I genuinely want Jason to succeed but he must act positively and quickly before the team loses all confidence and falls apart.
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I Still beleive we have the players with the skill and abilities to get us up where we need to be.
Do we have the motivation and tactics to get there.
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Chesterfield sack manager after . . " slow start " - Independant
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This must be very disappointing for all concerned especially the happy clappers.
We must get real however.
It is not about the performance on the pitch it is about the bottom line and paying back £1 million to Lavaflow.
Of course Uncle Dave will never tell you so or you would never turn up to a game and part with your cash.
"Scouser: telling it how it is even though you don't want to know"
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I have vowed to give it six games before I comment on any individuals so this is a generalisation.
Why six games? Is this some sort of magical mathematical formula? How many games should I be waiting for until I can tell you all that we are crap and headed for mediocrity once again this season? :)
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Dear Scouser, how you have the gall to state 'we are crap' when you are not a supporter of the club, I really don't know.
Back under your stone, little boy.
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£1 million plus debt + promises to Mr Sotnick = crap team on the pitch.
You don't have to be Einstein to do the formula. :o
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"Scouser: telling it how it is even though you don't want to know"
You told everyone who would listen at the time that it was pointless to build a case for saving the club around appealing to the tax mans social conscience.
So you don't tell it how it is. You tell it as you see it, sometimes right and sometimes wrong. Like everyone else.
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Sorry I thought HMRC moved in to get its money. HMRC plays by the law of the land and there are no dispensations even for a rotten football club. :o
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Dear Scouser, how you have the gall to state 'we are crap' when you are not a supporter of the club, I really don't know.
Not sure where I said those three words that you quote Gussiepoohs unless there was a condition attached.
However, if you want to gain any credibility at all on this forum you had better find them and quote the context too.
Or else people will just think you are making it all up. ;)
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I have no idea who you are Scouse, but it seems that you not the most popular person on here because you say what you see and think, even if in the opinions of some (and admittedly most of the members) its wrong.
I dont agree with quite everything you say, but hey its a public forum and everyone on here is entitled to their opinion no matter how many backs it rubs up.
i dont know if you live in or around boston, some of your posts alude to you living here some dont, but you certainly seem to stir things up and keep the place amusing.
If your ever abouit int town and fancy a beer n a chin wag...
TruthSayer
I think that i have now probably alienated my self from everyone on hereby daring to agree, acknowledge, confide, communicate, converse and recognise Mr Scouse, however having visited a selection of the Queens State Hotels, theres nowt much im afraid of now
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I have vowed to give it six games before I comment on any individuals so this is a generalisation.
Why six games? Is this some sort of magical mathematical formula? How many games should I be waiting for until I can tell you all that we are crap and headed for mediocrity once again this season? :)
See above Mr Scouse, although I think your being quoted out of context.. with a little paraphrasing thrown in.
I believe i have now reserved myself a place on a crucification cross somewhere...
TruthSayer
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Very polite.
I like "Mr Scouse".
Consider yourself in Scouse's good books (for the time being) along with Gussiegussetpoohs.
Perhaps you can teach him a few tricks? :bunny
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If your ever abouit int town and fancy a beer n a chin wag...
I have given up the drink. Wanted to set an example to the Temperance Movement that seemingly stalks this forum so earnestly.
Unless you are a stunning 6 foot blond (or brunette) with massive puppies it is a long way to come up for a chat. But appreciate the thought. xxxx
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Sorry I thought HMRC moved in to get its money. HMRC plays by the law of the land and there are no dispensations even for a rotten football club. :o
You seem to have missed a few important events at BUFC. The following should clear up a few things for you:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/boston_united/7369021.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/boston_united/7369021.stm)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_conf/7411041.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_conf/7411041.stm)
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So you would be "Up Narf" then...
There cant be too many Temperance folks here, what with all the beer festivals that have benn mentioned of late.
Finally, i am not 6 feet of buxom blond femaleness, more short fat balding so seems we have shit out on every much level, other than our habit of irritating people, most of which i do in the real world, often with mixed results...
Keep up the good work!
TS
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Sorry I thought HMRC moved in to get its money. HMRC plays by the law of the land and there are no dispensations even for a rotten football club. :o
You seem to have missed a few important events at BUFC. The following should clear up a few things for you:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/boston_united/7369021.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/boston_united/7369021.stm)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_conf/7411041.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_conf/7411041.stm)
Not at all Uncle Ken. There is nothing here from Dave that tells me that HMRC let them off the hook and they certainly did not let Sotnick/Rodwell off the hook. :)
And who is the £1 million creditor on the balance sheet?
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Unless you are a stunning 6 foot blond (or brunette) with massive puppies it is a long way to come up for a chat. But appreciate the thought. xxxx
Hope your wife's not on this forum SP?
Anyway, back on topic. I'm in the queue of disappointed. First 10 minutes, they seemed the worse team we've come up against in a long time...but we weren't far behind. They scored the goal - was there a hint of offside?. They then dropped a bit deeper and we didn't seem to have a way of breaking them down? Should've finished 2-0 if it wasn't for the great clearance off the line by their centre forward!
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Wife? I am as gay as can be mr weasel. :-*
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Ref. 'we are crap'.
Dear Scouser, Please read what you have previously written before making comments.
I refer you to your post of 28th August at 12.55.59.
Specsavers dear boy? or should it be the Georgians for you?
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taken out of context Gussiepoohs.
You should be working for a red top! :bunny
Reminds me of some of the theatre ads in the West End.
"if it had not been for the diabolical supporting cast and awful script this could have been a mesmorising performance"
selectively edited it reads "a mesmorising performance"
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Disappointed is an understatement today too... selectively edited, even in the world of the red top, it should read either 'memorising' or 'mesmerising' :dan
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If Shakespeare were alive today he would destroy his quill in despair and take up a delivery job in a kebab shop.
I fully admit my interest in united is since Mr Chesnut has had his tenure, so other than reading about it I have no knowledge or understanding of what went on during the reign of Mr Evans et al.
I long since gave up trying to gather any sort of knowledge of it as nowadays I thoroughly enjoy the constant bickering that goes on amongst the cast of regulars.
I can only imagine that there was a time when you all got on until something happened, I dunno what.
Nowadays all you seem to do is slate each other. Tickles me it does and makes for interesting reading.
Ideally it would be nice if I could get some idea of why this rift has become so cavernous whilst at the same time finding out how Mr Evans engineered the demise and almost disappearance of all that is pilgrim.
However that's unlikely to happen as long as there is a hole in my bottom.
Somedays I think you play fighting, other days it's like a bomb going off.
So thanks Mr Scouse, Mr Gus, Mr Oxo to name but a few because your all of a quality that even Willy Skakespear could not create.
Boggled as ever, perpetually confused but amused
TS
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If Shakespeare were alive today he would destroy his quill in despair and take up a delivery job in a kebab shop.
I fully admit my interest in united is since Mr Chesnut has had his tenure, so other than reading about it I have no knowledge or understanding of what went on during the reign of Mr Evans et al.
I long since gave up trying to gather any sort of knowledge of it as nowadays I thoroughly enjoy the constant bickering that goes on amongst the cast of regulars.
I can only imagine that there was a time when you all got on until something happened, I dunno what.
Nowadays all you seem to do is slate each other. Tickles me it does and makes for interesting reading.
Ideally it would be nice if I could get some idea of why this rift has become so cavernous whilst at the same time finding out how Mr Evans engineered the demise and almost disappearance of all that is pilgrim.
However that's unlikely to happen as long as there is a hole in my bottom.
Somedays I think you play fighting, other days it's like a bomb going off.
So thanks Mr Scouse, Mr Gus, Mr Oxo to name but a few because your all of a quality that even Willy Skakespear could not create.
Boggled as ever, perpetually confused but amused
TS
Have you ever watched the film Double Identity? ;)
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No, but I have seen groundhog day!
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Have you ever watched the film Double Identity? ;)
Would you be suggesting that they/I would be all one and the same?
if so and if infact it is so then i sign this as a fool
TS
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Have you ever watched the film Double Identity? ;)
Would you be suggesting that they/I would be all one and the same?
if so and if infact it is so then i sign this as a fool
TS
It was actually a question I asked not a suggestion. You musn't see links that are not there.
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Have you ever watched the film Double Identity? ;)
Whoops, my failing eyesight is revealed.
In that case i cant say that i ahve seen the fim Double Identity. I have seen a film called Kung Fu Hustle though, which despite the subtitles was amusing, although The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, which also has subtitles, was somewhat disturbing...
TS
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Even more disappointed today !!!! >:(
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No, but I have seen groundhog day!
I saw Groundhog Day last Saturday and again today :(
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No, but I have seen groundhog day!
I saw Groundhog Day last Saturday and again today :(
Think its on sky mate. Repeated most weeks