Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Mr Tickle on August 31, 2009, 10:30:35 AM
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The only thing missing from an ideal start to the season is that ever important first home win.
Hopefully today will see this, and lets also hope that the home fans give them 100% support throughout what could be a tough, physical match.
Come on Boston!!!
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less of the moaning by some would be a helpful start on the 100% support throughout matter
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shouts of your rubbish after 20 mins, as against Kendal, must make some players question why they came here.
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shouts of your rubbish after 20 mins, as against Kendal, must make some players question why they came here.
Correct, what is it about 20 minutes, that's always the time the shouts start (unless we have gone in front before then). Despite the incredible start if it is still 0-0 after 20 today you'll hear them start...
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there were a lot of shouts last time but i thought they were definately a lot more behind the team most of the game and there were more mutterings than shouts.
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To be fair teams must love playing us at York Street, all they have to do is put 10 men behind the ball and play spoiling tactics and then our own supporters will do the rest for them. We are going to have a lot of teams come with the ambition of a clean sheet draw at this level, so the fans need to be patient and supportive. I guess its a straight choice for the fans, either act as the 12th man for our own team, or for the opposition.
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anyone know of any live updates or anything?
I found that dalton chap on twatter but any other ideas anyone?
Fanks
Dazzy
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http://www.my-livescores.com/
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we're all over them by the sounds of it
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not all in their goal net though :(
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1471, not bad at all.
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NOOOOOO
Hucknall have scored!!!!
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that must have been a good half time team talk
kendal winning at HT, poo
btw Hucknall were the team that broke our unbeaten home record 2 seasons ago.
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1-1
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yay 1 all
C'mon Boston!!!!!
;D ;D ;D
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come back Number 2 :) gotta praise the lads for keeping thier heads up
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come back Number 2 :) gotta praise the lads for keeping thier heads up
But can they go on and win again?
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1-2
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We cant lose at home.WE CANT WE CANT WE CANT!!!!!
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Was right in line with that - woeful, woeful decision. Nothing within two feet of him when he went down.
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Davidson is on now.
Lets see if he can pop a couple in and save us........
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I hope the boo boys can shut it because they need to for a few weeks to let this lot build some confidence at home ::)
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The boys areleaving this turn around a bit late....
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2-2
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Equaliser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CUMON!!!!!
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phew
Clarke should have been on from the start
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Oooh could I get to see the first home win next week then :-\
Still better than getting spanked at home 4-1 to an ex Unibond side ;D
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Fiuuu.... ::)
Great Clarke... but we must do better in the home matches...
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What a fabulous match. Well worth he tenner. Entertainment throughout. Should have had 3 points though we were all over em
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Kendal and Stocksbridge both won.
Durham lost 8-0 to Burscough.
We dont move too far down, only about a place
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1Kendal Town 6 4 2 0 15 7 8 14
2 Stocksbridge Park Steels 6 4 0 2 19 9 10 12
3 Boston United 5 3 2 0 8 4 4 11
4 FC United Of Manchester 6 3 1 2 11 7 4 10
5 Guiseley 6 3 1 2 9 8 1 10
6 North Ferriby United 6 3 1 2 5 5 0 10
7 Retford United 5 2 3 0 9 4 5 9
8 Ashton United 5 3 0 2 9 8 1 9
9 Buxton 6 2 3 1 8 7 1 9
10 Bradford Park Avenue 5 2 2 1 8 6 2 8
11 Nantwich Town 5 2 2 1 9 8 1 8
12 Burscough 6 2 1 3 11 8 3 7
13 Matlock Town 5 2 1 2 9 7 2 7
14 Whitby Town 6 2 1 3 11 10 1 7
15 Marine 6 2 1 3 10 11 -1 7
16 Kings Lynn 6 1 3 2 10 9 1 6
17 Hucknall Town 6 1 2 3 8 10 -2 5
18 Ossett Town 5 1 1 3 6 9 -3 4
19 Worksop Town 5 0 4 1 4 7 -3 4
20 Frickley Athletic 6 1 1 4 5 13 -8 4
21 Durham City 6 0 0 6 3 30 -27 0
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Not much you can say in truth. you really got to give all the credit today to the way hucknall dived in front of every effort we had on goal, and also the keeper who made some decent saves, i wont go into time waisting as i havnt found a team including bufc that dont do it.
BUT I WILL SAY HOW THE HELL WAS THAT A PENALTY. hucknell claimed for everythink and yet the only time they dont shout they get it. Not saying i knock them for shouting as its just what teams do lol.
Also thought that gate looked 1600
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Just got back. I'm hoping people aren't going to be too critical of the team in their posts this evening as I thought we deserved to win. So well played Boston. There were a number of positives to take out of today (and not just Gainsborough receiving another beating).
We forced the Hucknall goalkeeper to make a number of outstanding saves and should have been 1 or 2 up by half-time. They came out and grabbed the lead against the run of play, but they took advantage of a lapse in concentration at the back so fair play to them. We responded with a goal, and then the game began to get a bit controversial. The referee awarded them a penalty, and I can assure you it was a blatant dive on their part. I caught it on camera and have seen the replays. It was not a penalty and I'll upload the proof as soon as possible.
They then began to timewaste, which was frustrating for us. But of course they were going to adopt this tactic. Every team would in their position. Their goalkeeper was booked for timewasting as well. Eventually this style of play caught up with them and we grabbed an equaliser six minutes into injury time. It was very hard to get the ball in the net past their 'keeper, and both goals were preceded by scrambles and multiple efforts before they finally went in.
I think Hucknall were quite a good team, but we deserved three points today but for a goal out of nowhere and a bad decision from the referee. Today was 2 points dropped but the season is made of 40 games, and I don't see any reason why we can't get six points from the next two games either. I guess that with two games in quick succession we decided to rest a couple of players and I don't think this helped. I thought we looked much better when Jamie Clarke and Danny Davidson came on, and we created more.
The positives are another excellent attendance, a point which shows our levels of fitness and mental strength to come back, and the fact that we have maintained our unbeaten run. That last minute goal to avoid defeat was very important, because it should maintain team morale somewhat. Onwards and upwards Pilgrims!
I agree.. as soon as D.Davidson and J.Clarke come on we regained a certain spark that we were missing from the previous phase of play.
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walking through spayne road on my way out i heard a few negative grumbles
why ?
we're still unbeaten , created numerous chances only their keeper keeping them in the game imo
we were all over them should of gone into half time 2 or 3 up
and there penalty was never a penalty in a million years
adding the fact our boys never gave up kept fighting till the end , in which in the end we got what we very least deserved a draw, H & S made a clever switch bringing on camm clarkey and davidson , put the game back in our hands from then on we looked alot more threatning
so tbh i dont understand why some people felt theey had a reason to moan
on another day those chances we missed/saved by the keeper they would of found the back of the net
KEEP THE FAITH ! Onwards & Upwards
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agree with everything stumpie said plus i thought camm made a big difference when replacing austin. only surprise too me today was cullingworth man of the match
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Agree totally with the post from Patrick.One mistake and a penalty on a par with the one given against us at Guiseley looked like they might cost us the game.At least we fought back to earn a point,which was still two less than we should have got.We do need to be winning our home games though,knowing how fickle some Boston "fans" are they will forget the away wins and stop attending at home,which has financial implications.No complaints from me,and still unbeaten in five,and we'd have all taken that at the start of the season.
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I thought we were very average today. Some good passing moves at times but other times with the standard long ball. Could have been 2 or 3 up in the first half but were made to pay for not taking chances. Good battling til the end but again in added time we could have had another 2. Still a decent league position we hold and will hopefully go top with the game in hand.
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as others have said there keeper played well and it was not a penalty, thought they got down the right too easily and we missed too many chances. changes late on saved the game. I'm very happy after four games and think we had a bit of an off day today. Any doom and gloom merchants out there answer this. what is it man utd do so often at the end of matches which we did today? where do they often finish.
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Cracking game today, full of missed chance. We had enough chances to win two games, never mind the one we played today! The lads in the end dug out a well earned draw form what was looking like a loss. Poor finishing and some great goal keeping stopped us grabbing 3 points. I thought the Spanish lad had a decent game today, he worked hard and if the Ref had booked their number 6 early on instead of just swapping phone numbers with him he might of done more. One that stood out for me today was Liam Parker, i thought he was strong and cleaned up well. Cam made a difference when he came on, every team needs a 'spoiler' in the side and Mark does that job well. All in all i'm happy with what i've seen today, remember most of the teams we'll face will be settled. We on the other hand have a new team, i say well done lads, keep it going. :)
check the grassy knoll
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Biggest moan on Spayne terrace was lack of noise from the townenders , wheres the drum Tom ?
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It is a disappointing result no doubt about it, however, this time last year we were losing these kind of games and by about 70 minutes had given up all hope of scoring. Therefore it is a little more encouraging to see us fightback not once, but twice and also to equalise so late. We do need to start unlocking teams at home though otherwise promotion will be difficult to achieve.
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Most teams up there at the end of the season win there home games and draw there away games while getting the odd win... we're going to do that but the other way round ;)
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We do miss tons of chances and need to be much more clinical in front of goal. It was evident in the Frickley and Kendal games too.
3 wins and 2 draws is a good start, but we should be aiming for top spot and we dont want to be 5 or 6 points behind the leaders after about 7 games.
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Gotta disagree with the gunslinger, I thought that the pace of the game showed just how cumbersome Suarez is, not a lot of pace at all.
For me, Boston deserved the draw because they could have won the game twice over with the chances they had but Hucknall will argue that it was good goalkeeping and not poor finishing that kept the score down. In all honesty you could not really argue with that.
I wonder though if the management might consider that they got it slightly wrong today.
I would have thought that Camm, Davidson and Clarke were rested because of the frequency of games being played, they certainly weren't injured. But a certain amount of balance was reintroduced to the team when they all took to the pitch and an equaliser started to look all the more likely.
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yes they were rested. i dont think it matters thou aswe did creat the same amount of chances as we would normally. In truth it was just hero,s in the hucknal defence and goal that in truth would have stopped a steam train today
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Gotta disagree with the gunslinger, I thought that the pace of the game showed just how cumbersome Suarez is, not a lot of pace at all.
For me, Boston deserved the draw because they could have won the game twice over with the chances they had but Hucknall will argue that it was good goalkeeping and not poor finishing that kept the score down. In all honesty you could not really argue with that.
I wonder though if the management might consider that they got it slightly wrong today.
I would have thought that Camm, Davidson and Clarke were rested because of the frequency of games being played, they certainly weren't injured. But a certain amount of balance was reintroduced to the team when they all took to the pitch and an equaliser started to look all the more likely.
Suarez does the ugly stuff a lot better than Davidson. His touch and pressence is a lot more useful in the physical side of the game. Thought he played well, one of the plus points today, yes he takes a while to get up to pace but the way we play doesn't really need him to make darting runs, the other two do that.
Man of the match for me was Church. The lad is class when he has the ball but will run through brick walls when he hasn't.
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A lot better well done lads, great entertainment and some nice football. I think we lack a decent striker, but ay ho we are in the unidump.
Way better than the Kendal match, I may even go next week ;D
Why did we cheer a draw ???
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A lot better well done lads, great entertainment and some nice football. I think we lack a decent striker, but ay ho we are in the unidump.
Way better than the Kendal match, I may even go next week ;D
Why did we cheer a draw ???
me personally because we never gave up , which we all love too watch
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Watch the dive in all its glory once again:
*Clicky clicky for proof* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kkzQna5wc)
Highlights will be up later tonight or tomorrow. The software tends to crash a lot.
wow, looks even worse from that angle than the 1 i had from the top of TownEnd
least the diving cheat did'nt go home with all 3 points
well done boys kept on fighting ;D
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Was a fantastic game today, as others have said had so many chances to win 2 or 3 games over. Personally think credit must go mainly to their keeper but when he was beaten their defenders performed heroics on the goal line. They came with a simple game plan of defending and hitting us on the break and scored their only 2 chances which very nearly netted them all 3, but think they'll still be happy with a point. Is 2 points dropped as I can't see them being anywhere near the top but due to the lateness of the equaliser am happy with a point.
Think it is harsh blaming our strikers, on another day with a different keeper we'd have won that game by 3 or 4. All last season the call was that the team showed no commitment, passion or pride in the shirt...all these attributes where clear today and I'm proud of the way the lads battled today to get what in the end looked an unlikely point. With regards the changes thought Camm made a big difference when he came on for Matt Austin (who was a bit dissapointing today) but didn't think Clarke and Davidson had as much impact as some on here think and Dotty and Mikel both had good games.
Man of the match for me was Church. The lad is class when he has the ball but will run through brick walls when he hasn't.
Don't usually have favourite players but Church is fast becoming mine, and that LCB sums him up perfectly.
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When Milly comes back we will have a class midfield.
Is there really a place for Matt Austin?
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He's only on loan, probably until Milly is fit..
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Watch the dive in all its glory once again:
*Clicky clicky for proof* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kkzQna5wc)
Highlights will be up later tonight or tomorrow. The software tends to crash a lot.
That was bad! I wonder if UEFA will get involved? Maybe we shou;d send them the video? Well anyone on Facebook should share the video so the guy can be shamed on the wider stage.
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Watch the dive in all its glory once again:
*Clicky clicky for proof* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kkzQna5wc)
Highlights will be up later tonight or tomorrow. The software tends to crash a lot.
Well that decides that then, It's more clear cut from the video than it was from the Townend. To be fair to the young lad, it was the only foot he put wrong all game. If he weren't 3ft tall he would be playing at a higher level I'm sure.
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Biggest moan on Spayne terrace was lack of noise from the townenders , wheres the drum Tom ?
well not saying you gotta stand in TownEnd, but instead of moaning why dont those who come over to the TownEnd ? wont harm anything might get it going abit
+ about the drum , tbh i like taking it just i never know weather too take it becasue sometimes theres up too 3or4 around the TownEnd and its all abit much , if i dont take my drum i do sure add my voice too the noise we do make
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i think its a great result saying that hucknall were in the blue square north last season but as long as we stay unbeaten im happy :)
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Ended up going to the game yesterday and was happy to see the quality of football from our boys. We were always looking to get the ball down and pass it around which was a massive contrast to the long ball football Hucknall and most teams in this div play. Missed chances was the main story for us as we could have easily been 3 up at half time. Church is class, he puts himself about and has loads of quality on the ball - he also allows Sleath to get into more advanced positions where he can be deadly! Great midfield pairing we have there! Suarez had a decent game winning most of his headers, just feel he could do with a bit more aggression. It was only a soft pen from the ref that denied us 3 points.
Overall, we are still unbeaten this season and if we carry on like that I'd be more than happy!! Its looking good!
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Time wasters got what they deserved in the end.
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Always good to see the oppostions view on the game...
Can't say i disagree with much of it. We wasted a lot of time and paid the penalty but so do a lot of teams but how often is 7 minutes of time added on. Maybe it wasn't a penalty but we should have had 4 so far this season and had none so may be we were due a decision.
Funny game should have been battered really but could have won it in the end thanks to a super display by Haystead some committed defending and some rank bad finishing. I would have taken a draw so i'm happy with the point just a pity we couldn't hang on. Boston were the best team i've seen so far and i reckon they'll go close to promotion.
Right gripe time. Segregation at this level are you having a bloody laugh. Escorting my wife and daughter to a tea bar because they couldn't be arsed to open the away section one.Putting us in an end where you couldn't even see the goal mouth but still expect the same tenner. If there are any friendly Boston fans i never had the pleasure to meet one. The walk back to the car was the most uncomfortable one i've had at this level.
http://hucknalltownfcforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?id=5488 (http://hucknalltownfcforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?id=5488)
Can't say I disagree with much of that,
I'm all for segregation however, makes more of an big game intimidating atmosphere for the opposition and if you had spread their 40 or so fans around the ground you wouldn't have even know they had scored with regards noise.
Also when you have 1400+ in the ground you are bound to have a few rotten eggs in that lot and I would much rather they go home safe than moaning about how they have been treated. You always, always give the away fans the worst view with regards segregation, IT'S THE LAW
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Its better to just sling them where they are now than take up the whole townend just for their 40 fans.
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Having watched the video i can understand the ref getting the pen wrong. Standing on the Spayne terrace towards York St end every one around agreed in was a trip , now we know otherwise. It looks from the video that the ref had the same line of sight as us therefore i can understand him getting it wrong.
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Paul hurst said it was a penalty and he had no complaints, just depends what angle you got of it.
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Must agree with Stumpy and BU on the up. Thought Suarez very sluggish on the ground and is pushed around to easily. He's a big lad so should stand strong. Very good in the air though. Won most of the balls he went for with his head and flicked them on nicely for the others.
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"flicked on headers nicely for the others" what others ? there was hardly any of our players in advance of him, some one like a "Daryl Clare" or "Ricky Miller" or even
"Ollie Ryan" would be ideal to play alongside him. My own opinion is that once Danny Davidson came into the game, the Hucknall No: 5 found it harder to knock him off the ball.
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In other great news, Crawley got tonked 3-0 by Luton.
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In other great news, Crawley got tonked 3-0 by Luton.
And I read with great interest that Jamie Cook has gone back to Oxford, never got enough games for us in my eyes, always looked dangerous. I see that its a move akin to the Joachim move to Darlo, very quick, cheap and replaced by 18 yr olds on loan from good friends in football. One wonders if the debts are starting to catch up with McCheaty again.
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I know it's a bit late but I thought that Suarez had a cracking game. I hadn't been impressed with him for the rest of the season but as someone said previously he does the ugly stuff really well and holds the ball up fantastically.
Overall we played some excellent stuff and deserved to win by far. The video of the pen speaks for itself.
Great game and let's hope for more of the same!
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"flicked on headers nicely for the others" what others ? there was hardly any of our players in advance of him, some one like a "Daryl Clare" or "Ricky Miller" or even
"Ollie Ryan" would be ideal to play alongside him. My own opinion is that once Danny Davidson came into the game, the Hucknall No: 5 found it harder to knock him off the ball.
The problem is, the system we are playing, the 2 others playing up front are deeper than the big man in the middle, and unable to reach flick ons. Suarez is comfortable with ball to chest/feet, which he can then hold up and bring others into play. Davidson cannot control a ball, so he should be the impact substitute when we need to put pressure on, late on.
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Isn't that the greatest thing about football, the diversity in opinions are staggering even in this one page. On the one hand Suarez just doesn't look up to the job and on the other hes played really well
Dont you just love it? ;D
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Quite agree. Diversity of opinions is very interesting and provided we are not blinkered it can actually be very enlightening. My mate sitting next to me thought Suarez was very good but I thought he was good in the air but sluggish and not strong enough on the run. Mind you, my mate likes hot dogs and I have cheeseburgers and he's always wrong and I'm always right, that's diversity for you.
Great to see that virtually everyone is pulling in the right direction. Constructive, informative, some negatives, lots of positives and all supporting the team and not dragging it down.
Anyone know if the managers got any more abuse from behind the dugout or have we seen the end of that. ???
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Isn't that the greatest thing about football, the diversity in opinions are staggering even in this one page. On the one hand Suarez just doesn't look up to the job and on the other hes played really well
Dont you just love it? ;D
It happens a lot with targetmen. Some people used to moan like hell about Jason Lee, but, all in all, he did a good job for us!
A lot of people won't realise how a targetman will be used to open a gap in the centre of defence from a long ball...
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As for the ref, he is my neighbour............
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As for the ref, he is my neighbour............
Have a word.......
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Isn't that the greatest thing about football, the diversity in opinions are staggering even in this one page. On the one hand Suarez just doesn't look up to the job and on the other hes played really well
Dont you just love it? ;D
It happens a lot with targetmen. Some people used to moan like hell about Jason Lee, but, all in all, he did a good job for us!
A lot of people won't realise how a targetman will be used to open a gap in the centre of defence from a long ball...
Also defenders hate playing a big man, all the pushing and shoving is way more knackering than chasing a whippet once in a while.