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Title: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: noughtyforties on January 10, 2012, 10:14:32 PM
Go on.........you've been telling me I'm wrong about the management all season, put a positive spin that.

Tell me where we go from here.

Even Craig sounded exasperated on Utd Live and he's normally pretty positive even when things are pretty ominous.

I'm shocked but not surprised, I thought Saturday was the low water mark for the season, seems this side keeps proving me wrong.

Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Mr Tickle on January 10, 2012, 10:19:41 PM
The chicken curry and chips was excellent tonight.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Tash on January 10, 2012, 10:23:48 PM
The chicken curry and chips was excellent tonight.
Not forgetting the Cornish pasties Michael  ;D
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: kingofnaves on January 10, 2012, 10:25:34 PM
I think that will be the end for the managers after we lose on Saturday!
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: spannerman on January 10, 2012, 10:32:49 PM
Soup was good ??
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: pilgrim4life on January 10, 2012, 10:33:35 PM
pleasant evening
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Mr Tickle on January 10, 2012, 10:42:23 PM
I think that will be the end for the managers after we lose on Saturday!

Wtf are you on?
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Senny on January 10, 2012, 10:46:46 PM
As bad, if not worse, than anything thrown up in the 08/09 season.

Constantine will hopefully never wear the shirt again - 100% diabolical and has shown nothing so far - not even effort.

B*llocks to the happy clappers and the "season of consolidation" - we are in big trouble. 1 point from home games against Blyth Spartans and Bishop's Stortford is indefensible in any way, shape or form.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on January 10, 2012, 11:14:33 PM
Bishops Stortford sorted Guiseley out on Saturday don't forget.

Anyway, regardless of what they did tonight, Boston were dreadful. No tactics, no idea and absolutely no confidence. It's not all bad news as we do have some decent players. What we do need though is an experienced but not over the hill centre half. A right back. A Church type midfielder and a bigger, more mobile front man. Then some kind of game plan.

I think Lee and Canoville need to decide whether they want to continue playing or become managers. I don't think they are good enough to do both jobs. If they want to play week in week out then they should go and find another team to play for. We need managing properly.

N40. FWIW, I thought Hall did ok tonight when he came on - he must have taken your criticism from Saturday on board !

DL

Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: woad_pilgrim on January 10, 2012, 11:16:48 PM
Agree about Constantine, what a lazy...

I have so far defended JL and LC and was prepared to give them a chance as they are inexperienced. They seemed to gradually be getting better players in and shipping out those who weren't quite up to scratch. The football also seemed to be getting better but the last 2 performances have been worse than anything early season. Only difference with tonight is we didn't get the undeserved equaliser we did Sat.

Apart from Constantine there are so many other problems, Bazza is a good shot stopper but he is not vocal, he's not giving the defenders the shout when he is coming for the ball and it panics the defence. Wardy is doing the basics right but his distribution the last 2 games has been dreadful, giving the ball away and kicking it out for throws when under no pressure. The midfield tonight was totally out-battled, they lost pretty much every 50-50. Up front we look toothless. That lsi is not exhaustive either.

As for tactics I'm not really sure what they are, they seem to change from game to game, long ball to JL to trying to pass, I guess the players don't know their ar*e from their elbow. The management need to decide on a tactic and stick to it, I'd say time is running out for them. If results/performances don't improve over the next 2 or 3 league games we could be pulled into a relegation battle and I don't fancy our chances based on the last 2 games. If that where the case then I'd go along with making a change...

I agree we have the basis of a good side, Jelly, Sleath, Milnes, Semple, Ross and Newsh are a good backbone for any side. Ward and J Fairclough have potential but need to be eased into the side not thrown in every game. We need to lose some of the older players, JL needs to concentrate on managing and Austin and Bazza must surely be in their last season...
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Richie..p on January 10, 2012, 11:33:17 PM
MY first post for a while. I would say I like to see things in a positive way and try to put a positive slant on most things related to BUFC, I'm not a happy clapper because I do see many faults with the team. Now then I am now one of an increasing statistic of fans that have stopped going. I have rarely missed a home league game in 10 years and tonight was the first time I've decided to stay home (infact I was 50/50 in deciding whether to go tonight right up until 15 mins before kick off).

I think people like KON and N40 are a tad extreme in their application of their views towards the club and also fellow fans on here. However essentially MOST BUT NOT ALL they say sadly is right. In my last few posts about three months back I said a certain player was possible the worst full back I've ever seen in a Boston shirt (and I've seen Shane Nicholson play for us) but I didn't name drop because although it was reasonsbly obvious I tried to be fair incase the lad does read this. Well I'm sick of us starting with 10 men each game and essentially playing with no rb. I thought this lad would of been a back up or gone within a few games especially when a central midfielder was chosen over him and with ease out performed him whilst playing out of position (That was Ben Wilkinson). To my utter disbelieve Jordon Fairclough is still playing for us. He can't defend, pass, take a throw in, His psotioning is awful and has no strength, he will run at tangents to avoid going to the ball and has cost us constantly. On saturday Ryan Semple had to save us many times in the position where J.D should of been. I'm afraid this may seem like a personal attack but at the end of the day I want the club to improve and I find it insulting that this lad plays for us. Chris Wood or James Cullingsworth were better options.

I think at times we over play the ball too and maybe should be more direct, not meaning route one or long ball but when in a wide area in the final third of the pitch get the ball in.

I think we now should be looking to change managers, I would like to think L.C will stay on and play on as a player or even player/coach or player/ assistant manager. The season could be turned round, the sad thing is the managers had a decent pool of player already and did add Bazza , Milne, Ross and Ward to that and with three or four more decent signings in key postions we could climb the table, It does look like we seem unsure of how to unlock teams and create enough changes. At the moment the we look our most dangerous when Ian Ross is in possession of a football.

Anyway what do I know about football, I just want to go and be entertained and If my team isn't as good as the other but the teams put a decent display in a were not completely out of their depth then you can't ask for much more than that but that isn't what we are getting and I do think with the gates decreasing and the results dropping that the chairman may make a change. I really hoped J.L would of made a great manager and he may in the future (by learning from his experience not to just go for lazy signings and ex team mates), He was a good player for us in the F.L but something has to change.

I'll don my hard hat now ready for the abuse about mentioning J.F being the worst Full Back ever to don the BUFC shirt but I'm afraid he has had half a season now. Jason Field came on (on Sat) and apart from 2 scuffed clearances into the fantasy island stand did brilliantly so being young isn't an excuse, Infact in 55/60 odd mins of first team football did more than J.F has done all year!!
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: woad_pilgrim on January 10, 2012, 11:43:49 PM
TBF Richie JF made a goal saving challenge tonight and did ok. Him and Bazza seem to be constantly getting in a muddle though, Bazza hit one ball against him that nearly went in and another where JF cleared the ball with Bazza right behind him and no defender in sight. No communication between the 2 of them which is probably Bazza's fault.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: noughtyforties on January 11, 2012, 10:22:05 AM
Amazing, no comment from the two main apologists yet...........
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: oxo on January 11, 2012, 10:46:33 AM
I began writing a post last night following the game but was so wound up decided to scrub it in case I regretted it this morning. Well I'm still wound up and it is not going to change until some positive moves are made the first of which is the removal of the managers as it appears they have lost the dressing room. Did Jason sign Constantine so that he woudn't have anyone to challenge him for a place? speaking of Jason how the hell does he get to start every game when his performances get worse each game? I have scrapped the plans for Dartford on Saturday and will miss my first game of the season as I fear a humiliation.
On a brighter note I thought Fairclough looked terrific when he came on but I don't expect the managers noticed so we probably won't see him again. It was also good to see and have a word with Thommo although what he thought about the game he had to endure goodness knows.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Winging It on January 11, 2012, 11:02:49 AM
woad pilgrim...what are you on !!!!  "Bazza is a good shot stopper but he is not vocal" ?!!!!!  well i am close to him every home game and i get ear ache after the end of the game. so maybe next home game stand behind the goal and open your lug holes !  as for the usual 2 moaners who are already stating we are going to loose on saturday...yeah, well done..thats the spirit. true support and all that.  i agree we are not good, but every team in non league is not man .u or a city.  well take it your both shopping with you missus's this weekend and not going ?
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: noughtyforties on January 11, 2012, 11:57:47 AM
Be nice to be in a position to take the missus shopping....... :'( :'(

Think before you post, we're not all in the fortunate position of having our spouses with us.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: woad_pilgrim on January 11, 2012, 12:56:26 PM
woad pilgrim...what are you on !!!!  "Bazza is a good shot stopper but he is not vocal" ?!!!!!  well i am close to him every home game and i get ear ache after the end of the game. so maybe next home game stand behind the goal and open your lug holes ! 
Well something's not right, at Eastwood a long ball is punted forward, Jordan Faitclough with his back to goal can do one of the following:

1) Head the ball out for a corner
2) Leave the ball for Bazza who is a foot behind him
3) Not get a call from Bazza, head the ball back towards goal (where he thinks Bazza is) only to turn round and see he has headed it over Baz into the path of the Eastwood player who taps it into an empty net.

Last night, a cross comes in, Jordan is facing the Fantasy Island stand where the cross has come from, Bazza is a foot behind him and no Stortford player is in the box. Jordan doesn't let it run through for Bazza for the easy claim but hoofs it away (I think he gave possession back)

These aren't isolated incidents either, when hopeful punts come through our defence are like rabbits caught in the headlights, they smash the ball away when probably 50% of the time the ball would go safely through to the keeper if they get the shout. I like Bazza he's a legend and still think he has something to offer, but I think gaps are beginning to appear in his play, he's spilled 1 too many shots just recently for my liking as well.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Lee Newell on January 11, 2012, 01:21:03 PM
I was stood behind the goal at Eastwood when JF headed the ball past Bazza to give away a goal. I didn't hear Bazza call for the ball, did anyone else?
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Burton Pilgrim on January 11, 2012, 01:26:20 PM
Anyway what do I know about football, I just want to go and be entertained and If my team isn't as good as the other but the teams put a decent display in a were not completely out of their depth then you can't ask for much more than that but that isn't what we are getting and I do think with the gates decreasing and the results dropping that the chairman may make a change.

One of the main reasons for the falling crowds is the lack of entertainment - most people would keep going if there was something entertaining to watch.  It doesn't have to be 4-3 every week, but we need to have a go.  

There has been precious little entertainment all season - probably as bad as the season we finished 2nd in the NPL (the year we didn't file the correct paperwork).  The football that season was dire and most matches were attritional low-scoring affairs - sound familiar?  But even in that season we were able to defend and got enough 1-0 wins to finish 2nd.  This season we can't stop teams scoring, and don't have much attacking threat - we just don't make it difficult enough for teams at either end of the pitch.

The only game I can really remember being entertaining this season was Hyde in the Trophy (I guess the Boxing Day one was entertaining, but didn't see that).  Comments from the management after the Hyde game suggested we had a plan to work hard to close them down and get into them - "work hard and get into them" would be a decent approach to every match, but we just don't seem to be able to do it.  Look at the way Blyth constantly closed us down on Saturday - we just didn't do the same when they had the ball!  

I had the same thought as KON (worrying!) - I fear a 4 or 5 goal defeat on Saturday, after which there will surely need to be a change.    

I find it unbelievable that we haven't signed a proper striker all season - when he came back last season, I'm sure Jason didn't want or expect to be playing every week, but now he is doing that through his own choice.  He can't play effectively week in week out at his age and it's starting to show.  Newy is having a decent season but needs a target man to feed off.  From what I saw of Constantine on Saturday (and heard about last night), he's not the answer.

Most worrying of all are the managers' comments after matches - a lot of talk about going in the right direction, playing better football, being 10 times better than we were at the start of the season etc.  Sorry, I know they are trying to be positive, but I just don't see it - we have some decent players but the performances have not improved.  Are we any better now than we were after Solihull (H) or Kidsgrove?

If the managers genuinely think this, they need to spend more time on the sidelines watching the matches rather than playing in them - interesting that Canners gave the players more of a public blast when he'd been watching from the bench instead of playing - would he have been quite as scathing if he'd been playing himself?

I know the forum is full of people moaning at the moment, so sorry to add another one to it, but we do it because we care and it is just so frustrating to see the club that we love playing the way they are at the moment.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: kingofnaves on January 11, 2012, 02:08:46 PM
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Tash on January 11, 2012, 04:11:33 PM
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Myleftfoot on January 11, 2012, 05:13:03 PM
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: noughtyforties on January 11, 2012, 06:56:35 PM
Perhaps at the next Saturday home game you'd like to meet myself and KoN before or after the game......you know, perhaps you'd like to explain this problem you have with us both? We're both about from about 2pm, we'd love to hear you tell us to our faces why you think its fine to come on here and add nothing to any postings anyone makes other than snide and unwarranted digs at us both....... and just to add we're both men in our early 40's so we're a bit past the ambushing stage and certainly we're not of the Evans gang genre of having a few mates behind us ready to give you a kicking........I'm just intrigued to know why you see fit to abuse me and KoN on here at every given opportunity.....?

The above post from you is nothing short of scandalous, you add nothing to the current debate about the team and I wonder if you even attend games such is your scant knowledge of the team and indeed previous games.

I'd also be interested to know why admin allow such vitriol to be posted against individuals.......indeed what are the rules for the forum regarding this kind of stuff? It'd be nice to see it clarified and yes, I've been guilty of abuse on here, I'm the 1st to hold my hands up, but not of the sustained and vitriolic variety the above poster seems to get away with on a daily basis.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Shoddys Lane on January 11, 2012, 08:06:41 PM
I am watching this with interest. Andy posted his thoughts on Saturday and was immediately set upon by a small vociferous group who seem to take great satisfaction in subjecting him to torrents of abuse. At least 6 people posted similar comments to Andy's during the course of Saturday evening and Sunday, but this group didn't vilify them for their views, Why I wonder? It seems to me that there could be a concerted and coordinated campaign against Andy. I have reached a conclusion that these people have suffered bullying in the past or are bullies now and that they take great delight in pressurising people.

If you remember Andy, I suffered a similar campaign against me a few years ago, at least one of your protagonists  delighted in having a go at me, positively wallowing in my discomfort I wasn't well at the time and this constant sniping through posts and PM's really made me ill. Fortunately a few of the Patterers rallied to my support and I managed to stop it. I also offered to meet the head Honcho of the group and buy him a meal, but he declined the offer. I am pleased to say that the turd appears to have been flushed down a sewer of his own making.

What I did Andy, was to copy all derogatory posts PM's and emails, deposited them with my solicitor and issued a warning that action would be taken against the parties involved if the abuse didn't stop. My general warning was that a clock had been set ticking and could be stopped anytime

Perhaps the "gentlemen" concerned would like to explain why they are attacking you and not other people who post  similar views.

Remember, there is a law against this sort of thing.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Myleftfoot on January 11, 2012, 08:31:09 PM
Perhaps at the next Saturday home game you'd like to meet myself and KoN before or after the game......you know, perhaps you'd like to explain this problem you have with us both? We're both about from about 2pm, we'd love to hear you tell us to our faces why you think its fine to come on here and add nothing to any postings anyone makes other than snide and unwarranted digs at us both....... and just to add we're both men in our early 40's so we're a bit past the ambushing stage and certainly we're not of the Evans gang genre of having a few mates behind us ready to give you a kicking........I'm just intrigued to know why you see fit to abuse me and KoN on here at every given opportunity.....?

The above post from you is nothing short of scandalous, you add nothing to the current debate about the team and I wonder if you even attend games such is your scant knowledge of the team and indeed previous games.

I'd also be interested to know why admin allow such vitriol to be posted against individuals.......indeed what are the rules for the forum regarding this kind of stuff? It'd be nice to see it clarified and yes, I've been guilty of abuse on here, I'm the 1st to hold my hands up, but not of the sustained and vitriolic variety the above poster seems to get away with on a daily basis.




Hello. Well that's very Anglo-Saxon Andy! Lovely to hear you and KON are close. Oh, how I hark back to being in my 40's. Never done a blind date before. My posts speak for themselves. I abhor the negative, always have my dear. It's served me well. Is your glass half full?

Oh, and Shoddys I'm not well either.  :(

Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Myleftfoot on January 11, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Myleftfoot on January 12, 2012, 06:35:34 AM
I apologise unreservedly for calling you a plant pot.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Ken Fox on January 12, 2012, 08:30:33 AM
I'd also be interested to know why admin allow such vitriol to be posted against individuals.......indeed what are the rules for the forum regarding this kind of stuff? It'd be nice to see it clarified and yes, I've been guilty of abuse on here, I'm the 1st to hold my hands up, but not of the sustained and vitriolic variety the above poster seems to get away with on a daily basis.

It should all be governed by the "Registration Agreement" that each user has to accept before signing up on Patter. The key bits being given below. Me and the other admins don't have the time to continuously monitor everything that's posted on Patter so it's up to anyone who thinks there is something abusive posted to inform us so we can make a judgement and remove posts, ban or reveal the identity of offending members etc. However, this is hassle that we could do without. You should all know by now what's right and wrong so just please behave!

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Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: green hats mate on January 12, 2012, 10:09:34 AM
Sad reflection of some patter users that Ken has had to make above posting .
Fact of the matter is what ever view you have maybe others will see it from a differant angle ,    the answer is debate with tolerance and maybe a little bit of humour in place of  threats.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: dt woodhall on January 12, 2012, 10:20:01 AM
Andy-- I would just ignore him. He is obviously a sad individual and gets pleasure from winding people up. Most  of the sensible people on the patter think he is rediculous. I wonder if I donate him the shirt I have won that might shut him up.
I doubt it!!!
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Cavalier on January 12, 2012, 11:16:06 AM
Sad reflection of some patter users that Ken has had to make above posting .
Fact of the matter is what ever view you have maybe others will see it from a differant angle ,    the answer is debate with tolerance and maybe a little bit of humour in place of  threats.

I feel the same - well put GHM.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on January 12, 2012, 12:33:53 PM
To echo Ken's comments, if you find something particularly abusive use the 'report to moderator' link and we will take it from there.

Personally I always look at it from the viewpoint of 'would I say this to their face', if the answer is no then don't post it.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Scouse Pilgrim on January 12, 2012, 12:47:54 PM

Personally I always look at it from the viewpoint of 'would I say this to their face', if the answer is no then don't post it.

What a load of tosh really!
  :xmashat


The viewpoint here is:  if you can't mix it up a bit and you're are a bit of a wussy - don't come on football forums (fora?).
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: woad_pilgrim on January 12, 2012, 12:53:08 PM
Sad reflection of some patter users that Ken has had to make above posting .
Fact of the matter is what ever view you have maybe others will see it from a differant angle ,    the answer is debate with tolerance and maybe a little bit of humour in place of  threats.
To echo Ken's comments, if you find something particularly abusive use the 'report to moderator' link and we will take it from there.

Personally I always look at it from the viewpoint of 'would I say this to their face', if the answer is no then don't post it.
Good comments from GHM and MNH. To expand I think it is a sad reflection on society as a whole that people use the fact it's on the  internet as an excuse to do things they wouldn't dream of doing directly to a person's face.

As far as N40's comments go he makes a lot of valid points, they just get lost in his overall perceived negative view. Having met the guy I can say he doesn't come across as negative in the flesh, sometimes the fact written text is so non-emotive makes things sound worse than they are.

End of the day we all want the same thing, a successful BUFC, I don't get what getting personal about someone else's opinions achieves for the club  ???
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on January 12, 2012, 04:15:45 PM
To expand I think it is a sad reflection on society as a whole that people use the fact it's on the  internet as an excuse to do things they wouldn't dream of doing directly to a person's face.

Spot on.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Ed Kandi on January 12, 2012, 05:44:48 PM
I am watching this with interest. Andy posted his thoughts on Saturday and was immediately set upon by a small vociferous group who seem to take great satisfaction in subjecting him to torrents of abuse. At least 6 people posted similar comments to Andy's during the course of Saturday evening and Sunday, but this group didn't vilify them for their views, Why I wonder? It seems to me that there could be a concerted and coordinated campaign against Andy. I have reached a conclusion that these people have suffered bullying in the past or are bullies now and that they take great delight in pressurising people.


Interesting...I've just had a look back at Saturday's stuff.
In N40s thread about Chris Hall there are a lot of postings where people disagreed with his view, but most of these postings are quite reasonably put. There are a couple of exceptions, but no more than you would expect on a football forum.

Shoddy's Lane could you direct me to the thread which prompted you to write "I am watching this with interest. Andy posted his thoughts on Saturday and was immediately set upon by a small vociferous group who seem to take great satisfaction in subjecting him to torrents of abuse", so that I can have a look please?  8)  Thanks.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on January 12, 2012, 06:44:40 PM
I am watching this with interest. Andy posted his thoughts on Saturday and was immediately set upon by a small vociferous group who seem to take great satisfaction in subjecting him to torrents of abuse. At least 6 people posted similar comments to Andy's during the course of Saturday evening and Sunday, but this group didn't vilify them for their views, Why I wonder? It seems to me that there could be a concerted and coordinated campaign against Andy. I have reached a conclusion that these people have suffered bullying in the past or are bullies now and that they take great delight in pressurising people.


Interesting...I've just had a look back at Saturday's stuff.
In N40s thread about Chris Hall there are a lot of postings where people disagreed with his view, but most of these postings are quite reasonably put. There are a couple of exceptions, but no more than you would expect on a football forum.

Shoddy's Lane could you direct me to the thread which prompted you to write "I am watching this with interest. Andy posted his thoughts on Saturday and was immediately set upon by a small vociferous group who seem to take great satisfaction in subjecting him to torrents of abuse", so that I can have a look please?  8)  Thanks.


Unless stuffs been deleted, it does look that way to me too.  Lots of people saying they disagree and that they thought Hall did ok (me being one of them.)

Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Dipdodah on January 12, 2012, 07:50:00 PM
I have known Andy and KON for many years, I do not know Myleftfoot.

Andy is a moaner, that is his nature but he has had to put up with a lot more than most on this forum.  You may not agree with what he says, but what he says he says from the heart.

Kon is a wind up merchant, he always as and always will be, but he means no harm.  He justs winds everyone up.

I do not know what to make of Myleftfoot, he has certain undertones of someone who used to post on here under several guises.

This is an open forum and 90% of the time it is used properly and I would hate to go back to the time when the Patter had to keep it's head down for a period of time.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Myleftfoot on January 12, 2012, 08:07:56 PM
I have known Andy and KON for many years, I do not know Myleftfoot.

Andy is a moaner, that is his nature but he has had to put up with a lot more than most on this forum.  You may not agree with what he says, but what he says he says from the heart.

Kon is a wind up merchant, he always as and always will be, but he means no harm.  He justs winds everyone up.

I do not know what to make of Myleftfoot, he has certain undertones of someone who used to post on here under several guises.

This is an open forum and 90% of the time it is used properly and I would hate to go back to the time when the Patter had to keep it's head down for a period of time.



Dipdodah, you seem very candid, I like that  :)
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Ed Kandi on January 22, 2012, 06:13:05 PM
I am watching this with interest. Andy posted his thoughts on Saturday and was immediately set upon by a small vociferous group who seem to take great satisfaction in subjecting him to torrents of abuse. At least 6 people posted similar comments to Andy's during the course of Saturday evening and Sunday, but this group didn't vilify them for their views, Why I wonder? It seems to me that there could be a concerted and coordinated campaign against Andy. I have reached a conclusion that these people have suffered bullying in the past or are bullies now and that they take great delight in pressurising people.


Interesting...I've just had a look back at Saturday's stuff.
In N40s thread about Chris Hall there are a lot of postings where people disagreed with his view, but most of these postings are quite reasonably put. There are a couple of exceptions, but no more than you would expect on a football forum.

Shoddy's Lane could you direct me to the thread which prompted you to write "I am watching this with interest. Andy posted his thoughts on Saturday and was immediately set upon by a small vociferous group who seem to take great satisfaction in subjecting him to torrents of abuse", so that I can have a look please?  8)  Thanks.


The other thread reminded me about this one. We never got an answer about these mysterious posts that Shoddy mentioned...a bit strange really  ???
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Shoddys Lane on January 22, 2012, 07:55:24 PM
Nothing strange or mysterious my friend. I was making a personal observation. Look back at the archived posts of whoever you think were the culprits and come to your own conclusions.You can do this by clicking on their profile and viewing all their previous posts. It seemed to quieten them during the week, but they seem to be gaining confidence again. Tick tock, tick tock.
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Ed Kandi on January 26, 2012, 01:30:15 PM
Problem is Shoddys Lane, I have no idea who these other people are, and I haven't the time to go trawling through random username postings.
I just thought that as you had been 'watching this with interest' it might be simple enough to direct me to the threads that had prompted you to make your personal observation.
You can always pm the details if you like  8)
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Ed Kandi on January 31, 2012, 08:18:53 PM
I give up  ???
I guess we will never know just what all the fuss was about  :dan
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Ed Kandi on March 19, 2012, 11:04:34 PM
Shoddy, at long last your posting is starting to make sense.  ;D
There would appear to be the start of a 'concerted and coordinated campaign' on the Andy Scott thread.
Are these the people who have suffered bullying in the past or are bullies now and take great delight in pressurising people?
They seem to be gaining confidence, could be time for you to re-start your clock and quieten them again...tick tock, tick tock, etc...  
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on March 20, 2012, 08:11:09 AM
Unless there is stuff that has been removed overnight then I assume you refer to
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Minimum 3 years, within three months some were on our guys back despite it being their first jobs.   ;D ;D

Personally I'd like to see managers given a minimum 3 years in a job, then you've time to mould things how you want......I don't think Andy Scott had been with the Millers for more than 12 months, is it really possible to turn things around in that short a time frame?

Next season should start on Monday with the dismissal of the two managers and an enthusiastic search for a capable replacement with experience at this level the bare minimum.


No personal attack there, just felt the need to point out the hypocrisy that sometimes is aired on here.

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Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Myleftfoot on March 20, 2012, 07:53:41 PM
 ;) Happy days!!  8)
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: Myleftfoot on March 22, 2012, 07:44:05 PM
Please don't ignore me!  :'(
Title: Re: So, Happy Clappers, care to make your excuses for that shambles?
Post by: green hats mate on March 22, 2012, 08:41:02 PM
 "Happy days "
Really MLF , you should know better than use words like that!!!