Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: leicester pilgrim on December 03, 2011, 08:54:32 PM
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As nobody else has started the topic, here's my take on today...
Thought the 3-0 scoreline was flattering on Stalybridge. We showed plenty of effort today and created chances, but they were a bit more clinical in front of goal. At 1-0 we were always in it and were the best side for long spells. But we had to go forward in search of the equaliser. Stalybridge were understandably a fit side because they are full-time, and they caught us twice late on the break. 3-0 wasn't a fair reflection and it can be a cruel game sometimes.
Our best chance to score was probably in the first minute. Newsham's shot brought about a good save from the Stalybridge keeper, and the ball ran loose to Semple. With the keeper out of position and the goal gaping, unfortunately Semple's shot was off target. It was early in the game - maybe the chance came too early - but it could have made a difference.
Thought Ian Ross was lucky to stay on the pitch, having kicked out at a Stalybridge player during the second half. In the circumstances I don't think he could have had any complaints if the ref had produced a red card. The ref must have seen something as he booked him, but how he judged it as only a yellow card I don't really know. Ross is a decent player with a good range of passing, but he'll be no use to us whatsoever if he's sat in the stands suspended. A player of his experience should know better.
Plenty of other Boston players deserved credit from today and on another day we could have had a draw. It is a big step up from the Lincolnshire League, but I thought Tony Edwards showed more promise in his five minute appearance than Sam Mulready did in an entire month loan spell. Chased down plenty of lots causes and delivered a good cross that rolled along the goal line and that on another day someone would have finished. Thought Edwards showed enough to deserve another chance in the first team.
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Some rather bad photos from today's game. (It was cold, wet and rather gloomy - something to do with the time of the year)
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Know the feeling about photos and gloomy weather - my worst set in a long long time!
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Know the feeling about photos and gloomy weather - my worst set in a long long time!
Any excuse!
The real reason your pictures didn't come out is because you were pointing your lens only a few inches from your own feet ...
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Floodlights seemed to help with clarity.
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Got to agree with LP We should really have come away with something out that game, at 1-0 they where fortunate and 3-0 was a travesty. Before the game I expected the sort of scoreline we came away with but after I am gutted for the lads they have put in so much effort and only have a 3 goal beating to show for it.
As well as the double chance from Newsh/Semple we also had Newsh nip in before their keeper, pull it back to Sleath who took too many chances with the gk out of his goal and only a defender between him and an empty net. Also had Milnes goalbound shot blocked by Jase Lee and Ross was unlucky with an effort. Apart from their goal they only had 1 shot on target in the first half which Bazza pushed round the post. Stalybridge may have had plenty of possession but they lacked a cutting edge and it was us carving out all the chances and I have to say I'm not sure how we went in 1-0 down.
Second half was more of the same until the last 15 minutes. We had a goalmouth scramble where nearly every Boston player got involved. Also Kev Austin had a goalbound shot superbly saved and then another almighty goalmouth scramble where the ball went accross the goal from both sides and I'm still not sure how we failed to score. Stalybridge again had possession but again failed to create much until the final 15 minutes when we left ourselves short at the back.
Personally have never felt so positive after a 3 goal defeat, have heard at the ground and read elsewhere that people are saying Stalybridge are better than Hyde, for me Hyde where a much better side alround and I was completely underwhelmed by Stalybridge I was expecting them to be much better, they played better in both games against us last season IMO.
Edit: Their manager is a complete cnut. He's a bloody good manager but he does like to get opposing players sent off. Last season his total over-reaction got Danny Davidson sent off and today after Ian Ross's yellow he clipped the heel of one of their players who managed to stay on his feet and carry on, the ref played advantage. He (the Stalybridge manager) was straight out of his dugout and ran down the line demonstrating with the ref trying to get Ross sent off. It wasn't the only time he was out of his box, he was going nuts over nearly every decision.
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Got to agree with LP We should really have come away with something out that game, at 1-0 they where fortunate and 3-0 was a travesty. Before the game I expected the sort of scoreline we came away with but after I am gutted for the lads they have put in so much effort and only have a 3 goal beating to show for it.
As well as the double chance from Newsh/Semple we also had Newsh nip in before their keeper, pull it back to Sleath who took too many chances with the gk out of his goal and only a defender between him and an empty net. Also had Milnes goalbound shot blocked by Jase Lee and Ross was unlucky with an effort. Apart from their goal they only had 1 shot on target in the first half which Bazza pushed round the post. Stalybridge may have had plenty of possession but they lacked a cutting edge and it was us carving out all the chances and I have to say I'm not sure how we went in 1-0 down.
Sorry got to disagree with you, you were second best everywhere today as the stats will prove you only had 2 shots on target. And when you wrote a biased view you fail to mention our chances like Marsh clean through keeper having to block the shot then scramble ball for a corner. or Jennings playing Hobson through he should have scored but put the ball wide in to the side netting I think most Celtic fans thought he had scored because there was a big cheer. We had more shots at Goal and more shots on target so we deserved to win.
Second half was more of the same until the last 15 minutes. We had a goalmouth scramble where nearly every Boston player got involved. Also Kev Austin had a goalbound shot superbly saved and then another almighty goalmouth scramble where the ball went accross the goal from both sides and I'm still not sure how we failed to score. Stalybridge again had possession but again failed to create much until the final 15 minutes when we left ourselves short at the back.
Personally have never felt so positive after a 3 goal defeat, have heard at the ground and read elsewhere that people are saying Stalybridge are better than Hyde, for me Hyde where a much better side alround and I was completely underwhelmed by Stalybridge I was expecting them to be much better, they played better in both games against us last season IMO.
Edit: Their manager is a complete cnut. He's a bloody good manager but he does like to get opposing players sent off. Last season his total over-reaction got Danny Davidson sent off and today after Ian Ross's yellow he clipped the heel of one of their players who managed to stay on his feet and carry on, the ref played advantage. He (the Stalybridge manager) was straight out of his dugout and ran down the line demonstrating with the ref trying to get Ross sent off. It wasn't the only time he was out of his box, he was going nuts over nearly every decision.
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Oh, good old statistics...
It was an even game, in which Staly took one of their two first half chances, after we had missed ours. Second half was just as even (but not as fast-paced), and the two late goals flattered them.
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Going on the two posters reports (both of whom I'm inclined to believe are not wearing amber tinted specs given Craigs live updates and their usual fair and honest appraisals) it just shows that until we go out and get a penalty box goal poacher we're going to be down among the mid table dead men all season. Newsham isn't quite good enough and JL can't do it all on his own.........instead of fannying around with short term loans how about the managers get out and look at a few players who might fit the bill? We're not a million miles away from where we should be, lets see a bit of thought go into getting the missing piece of the jigsaw, and just as importantly, a bit of backing from within........
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just read the report in the nlp and it said we were poor and apart from 2shots didnt threaten their goal at all. Every one ive spoken to said they werent that good!
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I was there yesterday and I agree that the team gave everything, but here is the rub, their best efforts are not good enough to see us do any better than mid-table.
The result was right as they passed us off the park, Jason's threat was nullified by two small centre backs and any flick on's, as in most games resulted in nought as we don't have another forward quick enough to get on to them.
I think we still have a problem at right back, and it appears with the signing of Ian Ross the mid-field are more confused than ever about what their roles are.
I know it sounds like a lot of negativity but as I said the lads gave their all, and I am just giving my humble opinion as someone who fortunate enough to be able to get to every game.
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just read the report in the nlp and it said we were poor and apart from 2shots didnt threaten their goal at all. Every one ive spoken to said they werent that good!
If they said we wasn't that good it must be sour grapes because the report in the nlp is accurate.
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just read the report in the nlp and it said we were poor and apart from 2shots didnt threaten their goal at all. Every one ive spoken to said they werent that good!
If they said we wasn't that good it must be sour grapes because the report in the nlp is accurate.
Strange he should say that, i didn't go but those who i spoke to said you was the team your league placed suggested (Granted that was from only 4 that did go to the match). From what i was told the NLP was wronge in what it said regarding Boston becouse they all thought for part time against full time we had done okay across the middle and for large parts of the game across the back.
Then came the same old same old comments, We have got completly no idea about playing football any further forward than the middle.
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just read the report in the nlp and it said we were poor and apart from 2shots didnt threaten their goal at all. Every one ive spoken to said they werent that good!
If they said we wasn't that good it must be sour grapes because the report in the nlp is accurate.
Strange he should say that, i didn't go but those who i spoke to said you was the team your league placed suggested (Granted that was from only 4 that did go to the match). From what i was told the NLP was wronge in what it said regarding Boston becouse they all thought for part time against full time we had done okay across the middle and for large parts of the game across the back.
Then came the same old same old comments, We have got completly no idea about playing football any further forward than the middle.
they said we competed well for most of the game but got caught out at the back looking to get something from the game and their team werent a patch on the hyde team we saw at york street!
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Know the feeling about photos and gloomy weather - my worst set in a long long time!
Can I make that three of us in agreement ;D
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Half a dozen more bad pics. :o
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Know the feeling about photos and gloomy weather - my worst set in a long long time!
Can I make that three of us in agreement ;D
http://mossleysmiffy.jalbum.net/StalybridgeCelticBostonUtd03Dec11/
Makes me feel better about the efforts I made today at an under 8's game.
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Comments on your forum by Boston United fans suggest you should have got a point out of the game
that's rubbish the game was pretty one sided in Stalybridge Celtic's favour even though we scored two late goals it was still one sided in our favour up to that point. I can't remember you threatening our goal too often second half so I didn't feel you were going to score and make the score 1-1 and getting two late goal just put a realistic reflection on how the game went.
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So you keep saying... I wouldn't say you passed us off the park, most of your short passing was in your own half, and you did resort to the direct game over the top for your quick attackers to run onto.
Newsham should have scored right at the start, and we maybe could have capitalised on a couple of dodgy kicks by Budtz, but yes, we deserved to lose but the two late goals made the game look easier for Stalybridge than it actually was.
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Comments on your forum by Boston United fans suggest you should have got a point out of the game
that's rubbish the game was pretty one sided in Stalybridge Celtic's favour even though we scored two late goals it was still one sided in our favour up to that point. I can't remember you threatening our goal too often second half so I didn't feel you were going to score and make the score 1-1 and getting two late goal just put a realistic reflection on how the game went.
just to clarify pal, this is a boston united fans forum.
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Just to clarify, he's a registered user and as such is fully entitled to his opinion, no matter how much some may disagree with it. In this Godforsaken hellhole of a league its good to see other clubs fans make the effort to comment on here.
I take it only Bostonians should live in Boston going on your rhetoric?
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Whereas in 2007-8 Celtic's two late goals made the scoreline realistic, yesterday I thought a defeat by the odd goal would have been a fair result.
For those of you that weren't there, their second goal resulted from a mis-hit shot going straight to Hobson (who put it away deftly to be fair) - a foot either side of him and it would have been a goal kick and the the last goal was on the counter-attack after we'd sent loads of players forward - I mean Austin had just almost scored! If we'd have been playing for the 2-0 then we'd have got it. Yes Bazza made more saves than their keeper, but they were ones you would expect him to make. There weren't many occasions I thought "They're going to score now" apart from when they actually did.
Stalybridge were better than us, but not as good as last season's Alfreton, Telford or Guiseley.
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Just to pick up on a few points that's been made on this thread since my comments last night.
1) Celtic Blue accusing me of bias, every club forum is full of biased opinions so what was you expecting on a Boston United forum? For the record if we are outplayed I will say so, like away at Alty and home to Hyde for 2 examples.
2) Oxo passed us off the park, please! They played a very similar game to Hyde passing from back to front but whenever they got in threatening area's we closed them down. As for your comment about Ross was you actually watching the game yesterday? Ross was outstanding he broke up so many of their attacks and started ones of our own, for me he is the replacement for Churchy we have been crying out for. Playing a passing game is very pleasing on the eye but isn't the be all and end all, I personally though our game plan although not as pretty was very effective.
3) Again to Celtic Blue, why is it getting to you so much that we don't agree with you regarding what was deserved? If my team where sitting second in the league and had just won 3-0 I wouldn't care less whether it was deserved or not and if opposing fans thought it wasn't deserved even if I thought it was, end of the day you got the 3 points. Why do you feel the need for us all to tell you how good Stalybridge are?
4) I agree with JC, Staly are not as good as last seasons Alfreton, Guiseley or Telford or our own side last season for that matter. In fact I stand by my comment that Stalybridge played better in both games against us last season. Again I stand by my comment earlier that Hyde are a better side based on the 2 recent performances against us (not very scientific but it's all we have). You both play very similar games of passing out from the back, but Hyde created far more chances at YS than you did yesterday. I also thought their defence looked more accomplished and if it wasn't for our poor front line we would of got a couple of goals yesterday.
5) N40's, you're about bang on, we are a striker or 2 away from having a side that can compete in this league. Earlier in the season our problems where 3-fold, we where getting overrun in the middle, we weren't creating the chances and the few we did where largely not put away. The side are now creating chances, the middle has been shored up, partly due to Ben Milnes now getting a lot more challenges in but also the acquisition of Ian Ross. If we can get that elusive front 1/2 then I personally believe we can have a very good second half of the season.
Edit: I'd like to add that there is obviously still plenty of room for improvement on yesterdays performance but the team have generally improved as the season has gone on and we have got rid of most of the players we needed to and brought in better replacements.
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Comments on your forum by Boston United fans suggest you should have got a point out of the game
that's rubbish the game was pretty one sided in Stalybridge Celtic's favour even though we scored two late goals it was still one sided in our favour up to that point. I can't remember you threatening our goal too often second half so I didn't feel you were going to score and make the score 1-1 and getting two late goal just put a realistic reflection on how the game went.
just to clarify pal, this is a boston united fans forum.
It may be a Boston forum but because you are talking about my team I think that gives me the right to comment on a match involving your team and mine. I wont be commenting on Boston when you play other teams.
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Keep posting Celtic Blue!Its nice to see an unbiased view compared to happyclappers!
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Keep posting Celtic Blue!Its nice to see an unbiased view compared to happyclappers!
Nice of you to appreciate my unbiased impartial honest view of Saturdays match.
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Its about as unbiased as our lot's views but it is nice to see both sides.......
Not seen you yet but Hyde looked an exceptional side here the other week.
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Woad, I did say "in my humble opinion"this was my view, I respect your views and opinions so I will just clarify what I meant about about Ross, I have always been a fan of his and I think he is a great signing, on saturday he got totally involved and put in a determined shift and because of this it appeared to me that Milnes and Sleath didn't know how to react if that makes sense, he also took a corner when Milnes was on his way to take it and he looked well peed off. So, I was not having a go at Ross but it is something that needs to be sorted out on the training field. As for being passed off the park I stick with that.
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Just to clarify, he's a registered user and as such is fully entitled to his opinion, no matter how much some may disagree with it. In this Godforsaken hellhole of a league its good to see other clubs fans make the effort to comment on here.
I take it only Bostonians should live in Boston going on your rhetoric?
the point i was making is that he has come on the forum and is moaning about what boston fans are saying! but then again he's very welcome if he's moaning about other boston fans opinions!
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Its about as unbiased as our lot's views but it is nice to see both sides.......
Not seen you yet but Hyde looked an exceptional side here the other week.
Or maybe your team didn't play well and they made Hyde look good.
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Its about as unbiased as our lot's views but it is nice to see both sides.......
Not seen you yet but Hyde looked an exceptional side here the other week.
Or maybe your team didn't play well and they made Hyde look good.
The Hyde match was arguably one of our better performances this season, which makes Hydes performance even more impressive.......
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agreed, can't say ive ever seen an away team come away from york street with 3points and get clapped off the pitch!! will be a different story on saturday though!! UTP
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It may be a Boston forum but because you are talking about my team I think that gives me the right to comment on a match involving your team and mine. I wont be commenting on Boston when you play other teams.
Or maybe your team didn't play well and they made Hyde look good.
:D Nice to see you keeping to your word
Oh and see you've been making friends all over the country
http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?id=24262 (http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?id=24262)
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It may be a Boston forum but because you are talking about my team I think that gives me the right to comment on a match involving your team and mine. I wont be commenting on Boston when you play other teams.
Or maybe your team didn't play well and they made Hyde look good.
:D Nice to see you keeping to your word
Oh and see you've been making friends all over the country
http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?id=24262 (http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?id=24262)
Yes I have alot of friends around the country I'm a very friendly person and always like a bit of banter with rival fans good luck in the trophy against Hyde.
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Dont know if this has been posted already but found these highlights from the game last week...
http://www.youtube.com/user/celtic1909TV?feature=guidebr/ (http://www.youtube.com/user/celtic1909TV?feature=guidebr/)
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its about time we had highlights of our games. especially when our fan base stretches across the whole country. a small fee to watch the highlights as well as advertising on and around the footage could cover the costs and maybe make a small profit.
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its about time we had highlights of our games. especially when our fan base stretches across the whole country. a small fee to watch the highlights as well as advertising on and around the footage could cover the costs and maybe make a small profit.
Agreed,come on Chalker there must be a webcam on that laptop of yours :D