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Title: First Home Game
Post by: steve m on August 24, 2009, 09:19:19 AM
I guess the most disappointing aspect of a tedious game was that we set up not to lose. with 5 across midfield and a lone striker.

I hope this is not the way we approach home games in the future.............
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Bob Lee on August 24, 2009, 01:54:39 PM
It was my first game of the season and I was excited to see the new look team.  I have decided I will pick my games in the future.  I am not knocking the team, just thought things had not improved from last season.  The league table tells me I am wrong, but maybe with some very good teams to grace York Street over the years they have a tough act to follow. ???

With money tight I will see a few miss a few.
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Pilgrims67 on August 24, 2009, 06:10:41 PM
So bob if we had played well would you have decided to goto more games? would money have been less  tight? Just trying to understand the context, is it financial or performance based.
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Bostonshire on August 24, 2009, 06:11:05 PM
lol..... think you will find it was 3 in the middle, thats one thing that could be seen,as for people groaning about the game get reall ffs. we made one of the best teams from last season look nowt more than us last season and for the bonus boston carved the better chances out..... 2 many of you are fickle prem fans and not the real deal as far as boston and non league fans go.   sorry just my opion.
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Bob Lee on August 24, 2009, 07:30:45 PM
meant nothing by it, just my views and the odd 40 or 50 around me.  Why can no one tell the truth and not get slated for it.  If the football had some kind of shape and skill about it then perhaps my hard earned cash would be spent more often at the Street.

The point I am making is, if I pay my money i want to be entertained and Saturday was to be frank boring for most parts.  I am not one to shout and get on the players backs, I am just stating an opinion.  Just that some of the tactics on Saturday was to be blunt School boy stuff.  I cannot see why for goal kicks ect 20 players stood in a heap next to the Staffsmart stand.  Our number eleven did try to break ranks one time but was told in no uncertain terms to get his arse over to the other side.  I also thought Davidson for a big man won very few headers.  Saying that you could not knock the enthusiasm shown by the players, I did not see any pre-season and as I said I went to the match with great expectations.

I have seen some very good players down the lane, and maybe I am expecting too much.  But this is the worst league we have ever played ( Lincs league excepted ) and that showed in the quality on show.

I am not moaning, just putting my views of Saturday's match.  If you are honest you would say the same.

We have a club, we have a team and that looked very unlikely two years back.  Perhaps if the Malkies stopped trying to put us under and the FA stopped shafting us we could have a better budget.

As I said, I will pick my matches because every penny counts, but if what I saw inspired me I would cost cut else where.

Sorry if I upset anyone but this is an open forum and I am telling it how I and others around me saw it :(
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Bostonshire on August 24, 2009, 08:21:29 PM
Your veiws are respected as my what i said should be to, my moan is the fact that we took on one of the best teams in the league, stopped them getting at us, stopped them scoring and forced them in to a hit and hope game, and lets not forget apart from them hitting the post althou i think this was more down to the fact our keeper seemed a tad to confident, it was boston that made the 3 best chances of the game.

My point been last year we wouldnt have made those chances and we would have let them at us more.i think some of us have to think we are in the unibond not the league, we may be a big club but we have only got unibond players. doesnt matter how big the garrage is if you dont have the money you have to make do with the mini
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Bob Lee on August 24, 2009, 08:26:05 PM
Point taken ;)
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Pilgrims67 on August 24, 2009, 08:31:29 PM
Now that's a good healthy debate, sometimes agreeing to disagree is where we should be at. Both comments are very valid
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: green hats mate on August 24, 2009, 08:34:17 PM
You can,t expect a completely new part-time team to gel after one match BL . Regard tactics RS said he was dissapointed at the amount of long balls played , so that will be addressed. Where did a big budget get us last season ?
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: cambocakes on August 24, 2009, 08:37:11 PM
Dont apologise, no need and i get your point. How on earth i managed to keep watching the awful debacle last season still sends shivers down my spine,that WAS THE WORST TEAM PERIOD ever to grace a BOSTON shirt. First home game this season playing a team who scored 7 goals in 2 games, a good strong physical team...it was Kendal. Not peterborougfh,Lincoln or any other LGE2 side,this is where i see fans finding results dificult.Guisley.Frickley, Stocksbridge whoever...bloody Nantwich[last season] these teams we are now on a level playing field with...UNFORTUNATELY!!! Attendance and facilities, yep fantastic. It would have been nice to have got entertained on sat...but i like to think im realistic it will be a rare treat i think. I go cos its my team, im hopeful that with new vibrant management duo and even younger team..we will get some entertaining wins this season. LETS BE PATIENT...a new team generally takes a whole season to click..im not expecxting ought this season cos of that but hopefuly next season ;)
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Bostonshire on August 24, 2009, 08:40:51 PM
I cant say i been to dissapointed by any of the players yet even if i do think our leading goal scorer as got a 1st touch like a donkey. I think the gelling is well on the way and there are sighnes that things will be getting better
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: father Ted on August 24, 2009, 08:42:56 PM
mm And I try to be constuctive about things and get my head bitten off ..
  Any way the one thing I' d like to put for debate is the low no of League matches this season ..so the  need to be V well positioned  V soon ? ..definitel y  .. maybe .
     Bit narked at the moment as my daughter got her contract fone pinched after the V Festival last nite..
        Regards to all Boston.
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Bob Lee on August 24, 2009, 08:46:58 PM
Just trying to get a debate going :) and I have,nt had a drink yet.
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: father Ted on August 24, 2009, 08:53:18 PM
 Had an array of drinks in the sunniness of Southport..
  (spirits are cheap if U know where to find them ..)
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: cambocakes on August 24, 2009, 08:56:12 PM
.all im concerned about is fans dont turn up, although finance wise very understandable. My point is we are so desperate for BOSTON UTD to do well..after all the horrors weve been through [cant get that Nantwich game out of my head] every single person currently involved DESERVE IT. The Chairman/vice chair,directors,general manager and wife...and of course the supporters...nearly 1500 on sat...what does that say about  the fans!!!!
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Pilgrims67 on August 24, 2009, 09:03:37 PM
Totally agree
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: cambocakes on August 24, 2009, 09:15:08 PM
..cos its a fantastic supported club, 2 leagues below its rightful place...NO MORE
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Bostonshire on August 24, 2009, 09:18:46 PM
you are verry correct we are 2 leagues below were we should be, and in truth run correctly there is no reason why this club cant substain league 2
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Pilgrim21 on August 24, 2009, 09:22:28 PM
I've managed to take in most of pre-season and I'm sure that last Saturday's performance won't be typical of the entertainment level this season. It's already been mentioned about the heat and I think that this led to a steady start to the game which then never really got going.
This was the first league game, in front of a large expectant crowd for our "new" team and perhaps the occasion may have had an effect on the way they performed? A point against Kendal shouldn't be sniffed at though.
Each player, that we have in the squad, has shown that they can play a bit in pre-season, and at a high tempo. I'm sure that they will provide very good value for the ticket money as the season progresses. We have a versatile selection of players and now that they have had a taste of "The York Street atmosphere" I'm sure that the next game will be a different matter.
The management's frustration with the performance is perhaps down to the feeling they know that the squad they've assembled could, on their day, have taken apart a side as good as Kendal, yet got sucked into a pretty negative scrappy game which might have been nicked from them at the death.
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on August 24, 2009, 09:22:39 PM
First game for me last Saturday (next away tomorrow night) having not seen any pre-season and working for the FC United game, have to say i was pleased with the effort and energy shown.  One thing did disappoint me though was the formation, granted Kendal are a decent Unibond side who need to be given respect but one up front for the first home game of the season?  

As for attending games etc. I'll be doing as many home and away as work/money allows but I totally understand those who have less disposable spends than me picking and choosing games.  Let's face it we would all go if it were possible but sometimes its not, no point getting onto those who don't for any reason just support as much as you can when you are there and if you are not save it up till you can!

Oh and League Two?  Don't be daft, Conference club, that's the 'true' level if there is such a thing.
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: father Ted on August 24, 2009, 09:30:05 PM
Ye s Conference def..
   Any sensible administrator will split L2 + Conf..into N &S  .. and Quarter the next 4 leagues ..rather than the mess we have now..
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Bostonshire on August 24, 2009, 09:34:02 PM
we have seen clubs with lesser income than ours compete for manny years in there, with the right foundation im a beleiver that if a club can substain 2500 gates in there OWN ground with othere things to help income it can be acheived
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: woad_pilgrim on August 24, 2009, 09:55:29 PM
One thing did disappoint me though was the formation, granted Kendal are a decent Unibond side who need to be given respect but one up front for the first home game of the season?  

It may have looked like 1 up front at times but it is definitely a 4-3-3 as Clarke and Newsham are strikers but played wide either side of Davidson.   
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on August 25, 2009, 09:23:26 AM
Sorry WP but if thats what they were meant to be playing it was only in very short bursts, almost every ball hit forward was met by just the single striker.  Even when Kendal were defending set plays they had three up front on the half way line compared to when we had the ball we still only had one up there pushing the Kendal defense the other way.

Let's hope they get more bodies forward tonight.
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: steve m on August 25, 2009, 01:43:46 PM
Absolutely bang on......playing a single striker at home is a recipe for disaster.

I thought Clarke was wasted, stuck out on the wing and chasing back to support his full back all the time......
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: woad_pilgrim on August 25, 2009, 01:52:16 PM
Sorry WP but if thats what they were meant to be playing it was only in very short bursts, almost every ball hit forward was met by just the single striker.  Even when Kendal were defending set plays they had three up front on the half way line compared to when we had the ball we still only had one up there pushing the Kendal defense the other way.

Let's hope they get more bodies forward tonight.

You're probably right but I think you've hit the nail on the head when you said "every ball hit forward". Pre-season and against FC (for the first hour) it wasn't long balls hit forward it was short flowing passing allowing the 2 wide strikers the time to get forward. Last half hour against FC and the whole game against Kendal we hit it long leaving Davidson mostly unsupported, hopefully we will try to start passing again as we have already shown we can which will give the other strikers and Sleath/Kennedy time to get forward and support the front man.
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: deano on August 25, 2009, 02:00:23 PM
think the team will look a lot better with church in midfield
Title: Re: First Home Game
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on August 25, 2009, 03:44:52 PM
Sorry WP but if thats what they were meant to be playing it was only in very short bursts, almost every ball hit forward was met by just the single striker.  Even when Kendal were defending set plays they had three up front on the half way line compared to when we had the ball we still only had one up there pushing the Kendal defense the other way.

Let's hope they get more bodies forward tonight.

You're probably right but I think you've hit the nail on the head when you said "every ball hit forward". Pre-season and against FC (for the first hour) it wasn't long balls hit forward it was short flowing passing allowing the 2 wide strikers the time to get forward. Last half hour against FC and the whole game against Kendal we hit it long leaving Davidson mostly unsupported, hopefully we will try to start passing again as we have already shown we can which will give the other strikers and Sleath/Kennedy time to get forward and support the front man.

Looks like i missed out on the best footy during pre-season!