Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: father Ted on August 22, 2009, 03:44:13 PM
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How's it going .?
( Went to Bury last wk so not a total 'armchair ' supporter ' )
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Fairly boring at the moment. 0-0 at half time and not many shots on target by either side. A few off target efforts though. Nice and sunny. Should have a pic or two up shortly if the technology works.
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A first half pic...
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mm maybe we are not consistently effective up front ..
Don' t think Mikel S esp has ' the touch ' and looks a little lightweight.
Unless he was better today .
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4-5-1 didnt work today but kendal were very resiliant and but for their keeper making at least 3 great saves we would have sneaked a win.neither davison or suarez at this time look much of a threat.
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1512, an excellent attendance today
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Yes excellent att .. but we are below last yrs form on team-team.. which was awaywin/homewin ?
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Never quite got it going consistantly today.Perhaps expectations(for some) were too high after pre-season and a good result against FCUM.Lets give some credit to Kendal,who were well organised and resiliant.We still could have won it but for a couple of excellent saves from their keeper.
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In truth this game was always gonna be poor, to decent teams in the middles going head to head, just really spent all game canceling each other out. Althou if it wasnt for there keeper we would have had a couple. just a point i did feel we played to narrow but if you had said we would have got 4 pts out of 6 in games against kendall and fcum i dont think to many teams would have
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A few more pics before I head off for the train back to Leeds...
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I thought we played quite poorly today. There keeper did make 3/4 great saves which maybe stopped us winning but the amount of long balls and misplaced passes was just to high. We must improve or we wont be finishing in the top 6.
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One word sums it up for me :-
DISAPPOINTED
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I think that we lacked urgency throughout the team. from the goalkeeper onwards, the play was to slow to cause Kendal any problems. I thought that the game was an even affair, with the ref having a shocker! No players really stood out for me.
scottbufc - i think it is to early to say that need to improve to finish in the top 6. Although it is your opinion, 2 games out of 40+ games can't really justify this
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1512, an excellent attendance today
Doh predicted 3-1. What are the chances of me getting an exact attendance again?
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It's important to remember this team is completely new, Kendal are a settled side who did well last year. It will take a few games of competative football to understand how we will get on. I think plenty need a dose of reality. Listening to people today made me laugh and frustrated at the same time.
Comments like, get off Clarke we would be better with 10 men are both unfair and unhelpful, and shouting out 'your useless' is really motivational for the second game of the season.
There are still too many who think we should win every game easily, and that is a bit disrespectful to the opposition.
Kendal will do well this year, we have a tough few games to open with, let's save judgement until we play the percieved weaker teams.
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disspointed i am with todays showing , but im not worrying yet, we did'nt play to our best but still caused their keeper problems
im hoping we can get play-offs this season , but im not saying we will nor that we wont its only the 2nd game in the 40 game season
Also from the 2 games Suarez looks a boy amongst men
all in all 4 pts from 1st two games against tough oppistion , im very happy with that and so should everyone else
frickley up next whos up for that ?
+ last season when we played poor we created next too nothing , least too day we had their keeper worried a few times making him make some great saves
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...good god fans ,the same old ones..calling all the players in the stand today more so in 2nd half. Get real, we are a unidump side in a unidump league.....but the defence where solid today..POSITIVE.....1500 in attendance...POSITIVE...there keeper made more saves than ours...POSITIVE....Canonville lead by example ...POSITIVE.....the pitch and fancy tenty looking things over ticket ofice..lovely......2 Managers determined..POSITIVE.....2 GAMES PLAYED conceeded one goal scoring two...with 4 points in the bag.I honestly belief the crock of shite we had last season,that game would have been lost!!!!
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oh yeah and weve moved to 7th in the league.... :D
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...good god fans ,the same old ones..calling all the players in the stand today more so in 2nd half. Get real, we are a unidump side in a unidump league.....but the defence where solid today..POSITIVE.....1500 in attendance...POSITIVE...there keeper made more saves than ours...POSITIVE....Canonville lead by example ...POSITIVE.....the pitch and fancy tenty looking things over ticket ofice..lovely......2 Managers determined..POSITIVE.....2 GAMES PLAYED conceeded one goal scoring two...with 4 points in the bag.I honestly belief the crock of shite we had last season,that game would have been lost!!!!
Indeed we have improved but much wants more as the saying goes.
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...good god fans ,the same old ones..calling all the players in the stand today more so in 2nd half. Get real, we are a unidump side in a unidump league.....but the defence where solid today..POSITIVE.....1500 in attendance...POSITIVE...there keeper made more saves than ours...POSITIVE....Canonville lead by example ...POSITIVE.....the pitch and fancy tenty looking things over ticket ofice..lovely......2 Managers determined..POSITIVE.....2 GAMES PLAYED conceeded one goal scoring two...with 4 points in the bag.I honestly belief the crock of shite we had last season,that game would have been lost!!!!
Absolutely right.Had the moaners around us as well.Lets remember it's a new team.Of course I would have liked a win,but i'm happy enough with 4 points from 6,and i agree with all the positives above.
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Here here cambocakes 100 percent right
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Here here cambocakes 100 percent right
i 2nd that
as i said no need for panic
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Never mind the performance on the pitch....
They had sold out of match programmes by the time I turned up so I didn't get to see what my column looked like! Was it any good?! >:(
And the Pilgrims Lounge had run out of Batemans, so I had to have John Smiths! >:(
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Did anybody else see our managers get angry and take it out on the dugout and water bottles. They obviously were expecting better. Also I would not have wanted to be sat with the players on the pitch at the end as Scott was really letting them have it. Yes we have high expectations but as Scott said on the radio we have to give them time to gel and they won't settle for second best. Let's get behind them there is a long way to go. Well done today lads :)
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Was a bit disappointed with today's performance but given it is a new team still to gel not unexpected. Kendal have very much the same team as last season which got them a play-off place and have started with 2 wins so not a disaster by any stretch of the imagination. They where well organised and didn't allow us to play and as has been said the teams did tend to cancel each other out.
All in all pleased we didn't lose (which last years team would of done) but think there is a lot more to come from the team. Do think the front 3 look a little light goals wise but can't see us conceding many so 1-0's may be the order of the day. The biggest concern was our tendency to hit it long but I'm sure as the team gets a few games under their belt thing's will improve.
If we can keep up the 4 points from 2 games ratio we'll be top 5 and to take them from 5th and 6th last season (with neither team making drastic changes) shows we are going in the right direction. And for the record the moaners near me where mostly quiet today apart from the odd moment here and there so we can't have been that bad :o
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A few more pics, more later...
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frickley up next whos up for that ?
Im going
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Me too.
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me three ;D
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Me Four :)
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2 more here going to Frickley.
Note on today's excellent attendance, beat all other crowds at our level and below including Halifax, all the BSN and BSS crowds and 8 of the BSP crowds with only ex league teams Wrexham, Mansfield, Luton and Oxford getting more so well done to all.
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great too here you's are going tuesday
maybe not as many as FCUM last week on tuesday, but lets continue the great away backing the team recieved last week
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thats 7 or 8 of us going then :D ;D
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Make that double figures there will be three of us
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More pics...
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No comments on Jamie Clarke's boots yet?!
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other than their rather smart
although i pefer kennedy & camm's boots personally 8)
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Well first match, so will give it a bit of time. Hopefully Lord Cutler Beckett won't start the doom and gloom stuff yet! ;)
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Well it seems size of the home crowd does'nt exactly guarantee success ..but it would be nice to squeeze out the cash for maybe an attacking midfielder & a tricky- wide man.
Should Newsham have come off ?
And did they really have a player called Warren Beattie..!
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No comments on Jamie Clarke's boots yet?!
An "adapted" quote from Ripping Yarns: Golden Gordon, springs to mind :
“Boots don't matter! Do you here? Boots are nothing to do with it. I don’t care if they're blue leather boots, or white plastic boots, green synthetic boots, or sky blue boots with elastic supported hand stitched Italian uppers. I don’t care if they’re long boots, or short boots, or three quarter length boots, or initialed boots, or monogrammed boots, or Billy Meredith signed boots, or boots made in Ireland or boots made in Austria or boots made in Timbuk-blo*dy-tu with pink stars on that light up at night. That’s not important, do you hear?
The only thing that matters, is what’s inside them! The machine you’ve got pounding away in there, up and down, up and down, for 90 minutes.”
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Last set of pics...
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Looks like an unhappy management team on the top one Ken.
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Was i pissadointed with the result today? Well, yes i was, i was hoping for a win on the first home game of the season. Then again i'd say apart from the 10 or so Kendal fans in the york street end everyone in the ground was. They did a job on us yesterday, they came to bully and spoil and they did just that. Mind you there's more to them than that, they were a very decent outfit, played some neat football and i'd say they'll be up there at the end of the season. So on reflection i'm happy with a point, three would of been better but a lot of teams will be turned over by them. :)
check the grassy knoll.
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Anyone with a boot fettish would enjoy Pilgrim21s dirty talk about boots. He's right of course about whats inside them that matters. As for the football I supposed disappointed is my word(two S's or one, can never remember). I think we have a very good defence and Woody did well after after last weeks torment of FCUM quick winger. Cannoville strong and assertive, good man to lead the team. Still undecided about Davidson. Does he know he's allowed to jump in the air when trying to head the ball or does he suffer from vertigo if he leaves the ground. Suarez not very quick and was a poor substitute. Man in the fancy dress running the game wouldn't know a foul if it jumped off the grass and bit his arse, poor again. Can't wait to see a man in black who knows what he's doing. Great credit to the lads though because just like last week they were subjected to some hard tackles, were not protected by the fancy dress person, but did not retaliate and no bookings. Still optimistic for the future. Need a little more time to gel but we are heading in the right direction. Love seeing HnS passion for the game.
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We weren't terrible! Kendal are a good side and will the there or there abouts this season. I think the one deficiency that came through from this match was the look of firepower up front. Davidson is RUBBISH!!!!! I have no idea how someone that terrible can almost be a cult hero after two games?! Suarez is not particularly good or strong and he has a shocking first touch. Newsham could be good but, like Clarke, has had no real opportunity up front.
Those idiots having a go at players like Clarke or Wood are welcome to not turn up next week.
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Funny you should say that. I sit not to far from the Boston dugout and a bloke who sits behind it was venting his spleen, no doubt about what he thought was a lack of effort. He was really going for it, then one of the managers, i think it was Scott offered him the chance to climb down and take charge! :D I never saw him go so i'd say he thought better of it. I know things can get frustrating and sometimes we expect far to much from players. My Father once told me this, if the players we have here could pass a ball 60 yards and drop it on someones toe, he'd not be playing in the Unibond league. I think we should all remember that. ;)
check the grassy knoll
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A lot of short memories Kendal have the same players as i understand it with only a couple of new faces.Did'nt they beat us by a few when capton clean got his name. What about the two awful losses at Nantwich?. A draw to me looks good however we played.Give this team at least ten matches of Rob Scotts B------ings and then start to critise
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Davidson is RUBBISH!!!!! I have no idea how someone that terrible can almost be a cult hero after two games?!
Those idiots having a go at players like Clarke or Wood are welcome to not turn up next week.
Hypocrite! Davidson won enough balls in the air today and was a threat. How many times did he look second favourite to get to a ball but still get to it first? How many times did he win throws and corners? To me it looked like Newsham and Clarke were carrying injuries but whether thats the case I do not know, these two certainly look like they could be o.k at this level. Surely your as bad as these people that have called clarke and wood. Calling Davidson Rubbish on a forum which we know some players look at isn't very productive either especially when he had an o.k game. I was dissapointed myself yesterday with the continued use of long ball. When we did try and pass the ball we either looked really good or hopeless but i'm putting this down to the team still being new to each other (I mean its o.k stroking the ball around against poor opposition in friendlys but now the opposition is better and its competitive league football the pace has picked up and players will now need to step up which after a few more games they should). I was dissapointed by a few things today but as pointed out Kendal we in the play offs last year and have kept their squad together and are very organised but I do feel we could of won the game had we tried to play the ball around them.
Overall I was dissapointed with our performance but like what others have said lets see after 8 or 9 games but I will say to carry on playing the long ball like we did in the second half and we will be a very average team this year.
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I don't think the formation 4-3-3/4-5-1 works at home. It worked at FC United, because they were always going to play it about and let us play on the counter. At home, we should be the ones dictating the play, and therefore should go with 2 wingers (Kennedy and Sleath), 2 in the middle of midfield (Camm and Church/Millson when fit) and two up top (Davidson and Newsham).
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I've seen Davidson play a couple of times now and I do honestly believe he isn't good enough (despite being better than Suarez). That's my opinion, the managers and Danny will have their own opinion and he will ultimately be picked if Hurst & Scott disagree with what I say or have nothing better for that position.
There is nothing wrong with voicing opinions on this forum in a structured way. That is after all what this forum is for! What I was getting annoyed with, as was Rob Scott by the looks of his video interview, is the way some fans constantly get on the players backs and hurl abuse while the game is in progress. These are two different approaches and I think it's clear that the way I have voiced my opinion on here is nothing like the disgraceful and completely unhelpful way some fans treat the players during the game.
Hypocrisy? I think not.
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I stand with Pride of Bostonshire home & away. I may add he travels a great distance to home games. And he never hurls abuse at players, unlike a large majority at the game. So cut the hypocrite crap. I along with most others at the game didnt think davidson had a good game. I tht he was poor at fc (despite his two goals) as long as he scores twice most weeks i dont care. As for being a handful for who ?! Vandanel for trying to get a shirt and shorts to fit him !? He didnt win anything, Suarez was a bit better looked to bring the ball down a little. Although as mentioned in previous posts i think that this will be seen as a good point when looking back at the end of the season. As Kendal were a big well organized side. Also agree with scotty that we looked better when kennedy came on, really rate him, looks dangerous running at people. Overall crap game, but im sure there will b an improvement on last season :-) he says !
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My god there is no pleasing some people
Pre season most people wanted with perhaps two or three playing exceptions, a complete new squad for this year, and for good or bad, only time will tell that is what the club has.
Two games, four points, and no goals making ripples in our net, four points and already negativity. If we're not careful we will end up sounding like Corby fans
Of course it's going to take time, but surely even allowing for the fact there are obviously many areas to improve on, which initself provides a genuine cause for optimism, how can anyone get overly critical of the team collectively?
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well said patrick i think you made some very good points there and i can honestly say i agree with most.one thing i have to say is dd has played twice scored twice against two very good sides,IFF,after 10 games the doubters amongst you are proven right fair comments but till then get of his, and any others of this very new squad,backs.yes i was dissapointed yesterday but thinking on taking every thing into account 4 points out of 2 games against tough opposition is definately NOT bad...see you at guiseley :)
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Another point.
Whilst it is never nice to read uncomplimentary reviews or comments or individuals, esepcially as someone pointed out if you're a player or a relative of a player that reads the forums. But it is no different unfortunately to any other media, be it on the radio or the newspapers
We live in a democracy and such I guess, have to endure all comments, however unpalatble, false, disrespectful they are. But as no supporters are more valkued than others, it is simply something we have to accept
If a player has a stinker, then he has to accept that if he pops into any fans forums,it is likely that he is going to get it., even if has a 'average' game, some will still rip into him.
Like it or not it will always happen. We all have different opinions, and all I guess have different standards or levels of acceptability from what individuals give out on the pitch, and thats where the diversity comes from
We have all slagged of players, be it in print, in the bar or on the terraces, and in truth, is there any differnce?
No
So bottom line, keep slating if you feel so inclined,( I will on rare occasions) as long as it doesn't get personal, which is where I draw the line, and as it's been sadi many times before, if players dont like it, dont pop into the forums ???
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V good posts on here Today re D.D .. other stuff .. and general behaviour on here..
May start new threads on these things .. as we move away from ' re v Kendal '
Cos I can ...
Don't U feel empowered on here..!
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Personally thought we might struggle at the start of the season as it is a complete new team, but still thought we'd have a good chance of making the play-offs once the team got going. If we can continue with our good start I believe we can have a realistic shot at the top spot, that may sound unrealistic or too expectant but I believe this team will get better and better, might need a couple of tweaks here and there but the spine of the team is already in place.
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Totally agree