Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: porl99 on April 16, 2011, 12:36:56 PM
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Shaun Pearson not playing today >:( Goals will need to come from elsewhere!
Live commentary: www.endeavourradio.co.uk (http://www.endeavourradio.co.uk)
Coverage starts about 15 minutes before kick-off with a pre-match interview with Jason Lee
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Shaun Pearson not playing today >:( Goals will need to come from elsewhere!
Why?
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He's injured. He 'tweeted' earlier and said he wasn't fit:
http://twitter.com/shaunpearson5 (http://twitter.com/shaunpearson5)
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Cully in at right back then and Canners in the middle, leaving a place for Stones on the bench???
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Frost, Cullingworth and Newsham start
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Frost, Cullingworth and Newsham start
That's why things went wrong, Frost not interested Cullingworth shocking Newsham ?
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Frost, Cullingworth and Newsham start
That's why things went wrong, Frost not interested Cullingworth shocking Newsham ?
Nothing wrong with newsh, ones of the better performers out there
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There's no denying we were poor today.It reminded me of the Worcester game in the F.A.Cup,when we also made changes and rested players.We were disorganised and disjointed and there were some poor individual performances today.Hyde certainly deserved something out of the game.
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Carried too many players SWD,Frost,Bazza,Austin and Cully weren't good enough. Good performances from Church,Sleath,Canners,Newsh,Jellyman and Yates though. Boyes should have started instead of Frost or atleast come on at half time with Frost having a shocker.
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Carried too many players SWD,Frost,Bazza,Austin and Cully weren't good enough. Good performances from Church,Sleath,Canners,Newsh,Jellyman and Yates though. Boyes should have started instead of Frost or atleast come on at half time with Frost having a shocker.
What match was you watching?
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Lets not forget Hyde are fighting religation ,they seemed more up for it than us .
I think we stopped when the half times were all going in our favour we seemed to
have the attitude we are 2 -1 up in play offs why try , shows you should never take
foot off the gas .
Baza should off had a straight red ,lucky there as we would miss him . Did i miss something
on penalty as town end seemed to think something was up ?
Bring on next week 3 points to be sure of play offs .
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On that second half showing we could have had no complaints if we'd lost.
We were awful.
All down the right we were wide open with Cullingworth and Yates being as poor as anyone in an amber shirt this season.
On the positive we didn't loose!
And good luck to Hyde, at 1-0 after not many minutes it would have been easy to fold but they came out and took the game to us. I've seen far worse teams than them this season.
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Poor end of story. I doubt very much the players set out to have a less than convincing game but they certainly did today. I've never been a fan of JY, in fact i'm not a fan of any winger really. To many times they waste balls, try the impossible, fail to pass. The worst thing they do is shirk tackles, they lose the ball then wave a leg, that was going on quite a bit today.
If Hyde had won we could have no complaints, they worked hard all over the pitch and a draw was the best we could hope for. All is not lost, we're still in the play offs and today gave JL a chance to see how poor we can be from time to time.
check the grassy knoll and the chips and curry :bunny
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Teams all around us dropping points like whores knickers ie Alfreton...im not disappointed cos nothing change today with regards to league table.We are in a fantastic position as a result of the whole seasons work not just one game.Before Telfords game if you had said 4pts over the next 2 games,we would have been happy.Their number 10,never seen such a tall white man run so quick,he had Cully in his pocket time after time.Great stuff and Hyde fighting for their league status if they carry on playing like that,will be ok.Higher placed teams been more negative at our place....dont know if we are mathematcal guarenteed play offs yet but we cant be far off.
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I thought yates was good in the first half,newsh and swd looked decent and church had a good game. Dont want to say to much about frost as it was his first match but i think all will agree he was a long way of what we need.
None of the spot kicks should have been given in a million years althou there no 9 should have been pulled up very swift for inciting the crowd.
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I thought yates was good in the first half,newsh and swd looked decent and church had a good game. Dont want to say to much about frost as it was his first match but i think all will agree he was a long way of what we need.
None of the spot kicks should have been given in a million years althou there no 9 should have been pulled up very swift for inciting the crowd.
Bazza was bloddy lucky to stay on the pitch!! It looked a clear pen from the halfway line.
check the grassy knoll and the chips and curry :bunny
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I thought yates was good in the first half,newsh and swd looked decent and church had a good game. Dont want to say to much about frost as it was his first match but i think all will agree he was a long way of what we need.
None of the spot kicks should have been given in a million years althou there no 9 should have been pulled up very swift for inciting the crowd.
Bazza was bloddy lucky to stay on the pitch!! It looked a clear pen from the halfway line.
check the grassy knoll and the chips and curry :bunny
No it wasnt any where near, there player turned into him and bazza had got his hand to the ball, but some could say yates was but i was in line with that and yates made a clear dive.
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Agree with most on here second half was very poor today. Hyde definitely deserved something out the game you really couldn't tell they where down to 10. First half thought we where ok but the match overall was our worst performance under the new management team (much worse than when we lost at Solihull). Still results sort of went our way.
Cambocakes to be mathematically safe, without relying on others to drop points, we need 2 wins out of our 3 remaining matches. That's also assuming Eastwood win their appeal.
Strangely I fancy us to win away at Nunny more than the other 2, I reckon we'll get 2 wins and a draw and will end up 3rd like last season.
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i think as much as people want us to finish second and make it a home tie in final (if we get there) i would partially disagree as we seen most of the better performances away from home. especially as it would probably be at telford where we have already won whereas we have lost at home to both nunny and telford! also much better atmosphere on the road. thoughts??
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I think you're spot on there p4l.
Atmosphere and general matchday experience at York St is piss poor, although there has been an improvement in the run out music lately after they got rid of that 'Right here, Right now' Fatboy slim shite...sounded like some munter trying to get her kids under control at the supermarket :dan
Much better chance if we're away, and we'll get a decent travelling support as usual.
We went ahead too early, always a bad thing at York St as we end up playing badly for a while and let them back in...we missed the main man Pearson :(
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Made the exact same remarks on the way home today....great travelling support creating a better atmosphere.Im convinced looking at the seasons results we have had BETTER results away from the JAKEMANS ARENAS...
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Who were the two Dick Head's down the Spain Lane side continually getting on to Yates in the second half. What a pair of W*nkers. Why do they bother coming?
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Wasnt paul & rob was it ;D ;D ;D
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I think the hyde supporters on there forum are spot on.
They say that in the second half the home crowd started to get on the backs of there team, from this point boston started to crack more and more
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Ultimately this seasons issue for our players has been to focus against the poor teams in the league and play as well as they do against the better teams. Yesterdays game highlights this problem again and the real need for our players to step it up a notch or two when faced with these weaker teams.
Another problem I've noticed about our play is the way in which we score. We've gone from being able to only score from open play at the beginning of the season to now only being able to score from set pieces. Surely, if we're going to continue to move forward, we need the ability to score from different types of play. We're in danger of beign a one trick pony with our corner stratergy with Person for example.
I wasn't impressed by Frost, he seemed quite lost in the game. Agree with comments about Yates and Cully, they got sold time and time again down the wing by their pacey forward. I thought personally, even though we didn't play well in the second half, I still believed we could hold out for a 2-1 win. The backpass from Austin was a shocker and ultimately lead to Bazza giving the penalty away.
First half we edged it, but the second half display was lacking and in my opinion, we were lucky to come away with a point. I'd of had no complaints if we lost yesterday. Fair play to Hyde, you could barely tell they were down to 10 men and really persued the game with the kind of attitude and performance we should of seen from our own players. At times, they bullied our lads off the ball and we had very little to respond with.
It's so disappointing to see us repeatedly making the same errors against teams like Hyde. We've played many similar games and still failed to learn from the mistakes that are bing made. It would be awful to fall at the last hurdle now, after all the positive work the team have done. We've the right squad for the job, I have every faith in them, lets just hope they do what we all know they're capable of.
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From the way their players reacted at the end of the game you would've thought they had won, it showed just how important that point was to them.
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If we continue for the rest of the season beating the "top sides" but drawing against the "lesser teams" it surely bodes well for the play-offs! They showed it plenty of times last season that they could motivate themselves on the big occasions. The trip to Marine was a prime example of that!
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Who were the two Dick Head's down the Spain Lane side continually getting on to Yates in the second half. What a pair of W*nkers. Why do they bother coming?
From what I could gather, they were moaning at Yates for not staying wide and atleast level with their back four once their player was dismissed. I've noticed under previous managers that we don't seem to know how to stretch a team when they've had a player sent off. I know folks say it's hard to play against ten men but it shouldn't be. ???
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Who were the two Dick Head's down the Spain Lane side continually getting on to Yates in the second half. What a pair of W*nkers. Why do they bother coming?
I stand on the Spain Lane side of the ground and i did hear a couple of blokes moaning about JY. It went on for quite a while before some bloke, who by this time had had enough and in no uncertain terms, told them to please refrain from speaking such rubbish. Well it was something like that, but as this is a family site best not to print what was actually said. :D
Looking around i did see one bloke looking very ashamed of himself and another slightly red in the face and a tad angry.
check the grassy knoll and the chips and curry :bunny
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Our wingers do tend to drift inside a lot which sometimes leaves the oppositions attacking players in acres of space, but then maybe it's how they are instructed to play by our bosses?
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Hyde played well and deserved their point. At times you just couldn't tell they had a man less.
Our pen - Yatesy has been known to take a dive but the lack of protests from their players/bench suggests it was as clear cut as it looked. Their pen - shame for Austin who was a MOM contender until then; with hindsight Bazza should have knocked it into the stand rather than trying to control it. I'm not convinced it was a pen, but having given it, it surely should have been a red card - a big, big let off for us, because that could have meant Bazza missing play off games.
Felt sorry for Cully as he got very little support against their No 10 who was clearly their best player. Frost did nothing defensively first half and Yates is not a natural defender. Canners was inside Cully but is still clearly not fully fit and playing central defence highlighted this. Cully couldn't commit himself to an early challenge because there was no cover behind him. In the first few minutes there was a long ball over the top and Canners looked as if he was running through treacle.
At 2-1, we committed too many men forward from midfield and fullback, too often - why were our full backs going on long runs forward with the ball on such a hot day? Surely against 10 men you need to make the ball do the work? There should always be a spare man to pass to. We seemed to tire ourselves out and play into their hands.
With Semple and Dudfield being ill, presumably we had to make late changes to the team, which never helps the players as they have prepared for the game in a certain way, so it's harsh to judge too much on this performance. For me, Newsham and SWD together up front never seems to work - it has to be one of them plus a target man.
Frost looked completely off the pace, but he wouldn't have been expecting to play, and it was his debut in front of an expectant and unforgiving crowd!
Our main weakness this season - other than 3 or 4 games, we have not been able to put any team away. It might cost us over a 2 legged play off if we can't score goals when we are on top. We might win 1-0 on aggregate, but it would be agonising to watch!
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Hyde played well and deserved their point. At times you just couldn't tell they had a man less.
Our pen - Yatesy has been known to take a dive but the lack of protests from their players/bench suggests it was as clear cut as it looked. Their pen - shame for Austin who was a MOM contender until then; with hindsight Bazza should have knocked it into the stand rather than trying to control it. I'm not convinced it was a pen, but having given it, it surely should have been a red card - a big, big let off for us, because that could have meant Bazza missing play off games.
Felt sorry for Cully as he got very little support against their No 10 who was clearly their best player. Frost did nothing defensively first half and Yates is not a natural defender. Canners was inside Cully but is still clearly not fully fit and playing central defence highlighted this. Cully couldn't commit himself to an early challenge because there was no cover behind him. In the first few minutes there was a long ball over the top and Canners looked as if he was running through treacle.
At 2-1, we committed too many men forward from midfield and fullback, too often - why were our full backs going on long runs forward with the ball on such a hot day? Surely against 10 men you need to make the ball do the work? There should always be a spare man to pass to. We seemed to tire ourselves out and play into their hands.
With Semple and Dudfield being ill, presumably we had to make late changes to the team, which never helps the players as they have prepared for the game in a certain way, so it's harsh to judge too much on this performance. For me, Newsham and SWD together up front never seems to work - it has to be one of them plus a target man.
Frost looked completely off the pace, but he wouldn't have been expecting to play, and it was his debut in front of an expectant and unforgiving crowd!
Our main weakness this season - other than 3 or 4 games, we have not been able to put any team away. It might cost us over a 2 legged play off if we can't score goals when we are on top. We might win 1-0 on aggregate, but it would be agonising to watch!
Excellent summing up of the game!
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In reply to Wismo & Lonegunman the "some bloke" in front of the 2 dickheads was me. Too right I'd had enough of them. I appreciate that everyone pays their money and everyone has a right to voice an opinion but this was just too much. The first target was Sleath but soon afterwards the moaners found a new target - Jamie Yates. This opinion voicing was just constant barracking of Jamie Yates - even when he was nowhere near the ball in play. Admittedly I've seen him have better games but lets remember who put the cross over for the first goal and who won the penalty (no comment from me as to whether it was a pen or not - but we'll have it anyway!).
Everyone gets frustrated when things don't always go as planned but I don't think shouting abuse at a particular player for 90 minutes really does much to improve his performance does it? One of these moaners seems to have something to say at most home games - none of it very constructive - but fortunately I can't recall seeing his mate before. Perhaps neither of them will bother attending again although I won't hold my breath! Maybe the club could have a special moaning enclosure so all the barrackers could stand together and let the proper supporters take the p*ss out of them all match.
The comments about some of the teams best performances being away from home rings very true. If this barracking is indicative of some of the home support then I'm sure the players prefer being away. No offence to the vast majority of the home supporters, many of whom can't travel away for whatever reason - cost, work commitments etc, but the away following does usually tend to be made up of people who are committed to supporting not barracking - apart from the incident at Droylsden which although being at the game I did not witness.
As I said earlier everyone is entitled their opinion and most games I leave the ground having a whinge about something which has happened during the course of the match - usually the officials - but I don't think after the game this intrudes on others enjoyment of the match in progress.
This is what happened on Saturday and what made me so annoyed. As Wismo said why do people like this bother wasting their money if everything is so wrong with the team ALL the time.
Anyway we didn't lose did we?
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yeah agreed. after the reasonble first half i was thinking it would be an good win even if it stayed the same scoreline as the opposition had 10 men but as we have found out in the last two home games it isn't! also with three changes to the team from last week all of which happened through injury and illness doesn't help!! i think JY had a pretty good game and without his set pieces in recent weeks we would be a lot worse off! at the end of the day a point is a point and we need to put this behind us and move on to the blyth mate!! UTP
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Moaning enclosure a good idea a t o . You forgot to mention it must be soundproof .
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and one way looking glass
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I've had another thought on the moaners. Make them go to watch Grimsby, Lincoln Shitty or Gainsborough every week. That'll really give them something to moan about!