Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: cambocakes on November 13, 2010, 07:57:48 PM
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Once again comments about the fans are being made before and after a game,altho todays pre interview was tues post interview.Im finding these little digs uncomfortable and unecessary.Boston fans have been spoilt recently apparently....altho the recent record of clean sheets has been remarkable.In RECENT history Bostons fans have been thro the mill and i resent these soundbites cos in the long term we havent been spoilt.Other remarks about fans making comments and moaning about it being quiet at home games is disappointing to hear from the two managers.Leave the fans alone and rise above those miniority who give a bit of lip.The team,club are on the up lets not spoil it.Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
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Having been a admirer of H&S from day one I can understand Robs fustration . Now he.s made his point which 98% of the fans agree with I think he should ignore the moaners and carry on with the job of taking us to promotion again as most fans think H & S will this season. Having stood on football terraces for 60 years I can assure Rob and Paul that when they move to a higher profile club as they surely will they will still find idiots who will shout abuse at them . its part and parcel of the job sadly. If its any comfort managers get paid , the 98% of fans like myself have to pay admission and have to put up with these people.
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I dont want to poo poo how things are going at the moment cos IMHO the professionalism at the club is first rate.But once you start having a go at the fans its a slippery slope.Im not talking a one off remark here.At first it was ROB a couple of times and then PAUL started the other evening.These two managers are brilliant and perfectionists and i think a bit more credit and appreciation wouldnt go a miss.Corby game is a superb example how fans are away and at home, at any level!!!!
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Someone text me the gist of what Rob said and whilst I agree to a degree am a little disappointed tbh.
As GHM has said with their ambition to manage at a higher level if they let the few moaning prats at Boston affect them I'm not sure how they'll deal with the much more demanding fans of bigger clubs. They really need to learn to ignore the few idiots who either have no idea what's happening at the club or who just like a good old moan no matter what.
The second point is they have spoken about fans expecting too much, I seem to remember at the start of the season us fans talking of consolidating this season and them saying it was unambitious. So to a degree they have created some of the expectation.
Not criticizing the managers as they have done a fantastic job, I hope they can now draw a line under all this as these latest couple of comments are not the first time it's been mentioned.
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Paul Hurst made a point of applauding the fans today after the match. No question in my mind that our support is appreciated by the managers.
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Suffice to say....being called a bunch of mutes does not bode well in my book....
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I have supported United for nearly 50 years, in that time I have heard those so called fans moan and moan and moan.
It happened in the early 70's when in my opinion we had the best team to wear an amber shirt.
I am Boston bred but I can tell you it is part of this town's make up. Moan moan and moan again.
I remember in the early 70's we had a player called Alec or Alex Gibson. On one occasion he was having a right minger of a game. This guy in the old Spayne Road stand was giving him some right grief all through the match. " Gibson you're useless " " Gibson you lazy bugger " he went on and on.
Gibson picked the ball up in his own half, dribbled past three players and planted the ball in the top corner. He then ran to the half way line and grabbed the moaning bastard's cap and jumped up and down on it.
I stand in nearly the same spot and one person with a VERY BIG MOUTH stands not far away. He never stops moaning and he aint a old guy. You can hear him above everyone else, and it does get to the players.
I say get behind them and out shout the moaners.
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I fully agree with H&S, these "fans" are idiots, promotion last year from nothing, and then top-of-the-table going into this game. Yes I know we lost 4-0 but its a minor blip in our season. Sad thing is these people have been around from day 1 sniping and moaning.
H&S should know by now that 98% of our fanbase are fully behind them and appreciate everything theyve done for BUFC. Without them we might still be languishing in the lower reaches of the UniDump, so I hope these people think about that before slagging them off.
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The video on the Official Site (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4N_IWf9zXM) has RS having a go at some "senior citizens" for shouting abuse at the dug-out about players. I was on the other side of the pitch and didn't see this, what actually happened? If what he says is accurate then these people should be ashamed.
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I Have to admit about been on the ropes regarding DD but that is my opion, One thing i dont do is shout and abuse the right of free speach, I certainally dont doubt the fact that each player gives 110% On and of the feild.
Some times you can give 110% and fight like hell but at times the fighting dont go well and today was one of those days, Strange thing is i have to agree with rob about the age aswell.
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The fans, moaners or not pay people's wagers. The number of fans turning out to support the team week in, week out is fantastic at this level.
The management team need to rise above the vocal minority of moaners in the Fantasy Stand and get on with their job - a large portion of which is moaning at the officials - mmmmm interesting one that, go figure.
Moaners are part of football as the managers well know, and having a go at the fans, is biting off the hand that feeds them.
The York Street crowd has never been that vocal, in the thirty years or more that I have seen, and yes more singing would be great, but it is what it is.
In terms of expectations, the management team themselves have been the ones to raise the bar and now the fans have raised their expectations accordingly, realistic ambition is what we all should be striving for.
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Rob, if you read this post, just tell them to f##k off!!
I used to sit in the main stand but it got to expensive, so i now stand on the Spain lane side. The main stand was a tad quiet i must say but bloddy hell the moaning bastards in the Spain road stand is unbelievable!!
Like Rob says on the clip, we're a NP football team, not a league 2 team. These lads either work or are at Uni, they train twice a week and are not full time. Anyone not happy with things, put some money in the club to get 'better' players. On the other hand they could go and watch Lincoln and have a proper moan!!! :)
check the grassy knoll and the chips and curry
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End of last season at Marine there was a pensioner, well into his seventies, who needed serious counselling. I have never heared anyone give out the language and abuse that he was throwing at our side. People around us thought he was heading for a heart attack. If thats the sort of 'supporter' Scott is referring to then I'm surprised Scott is still here. What the hell do these folks want. I said last week Alfreton most likely to win league and us in the play offs. The players give their all. Sometimes they don't achieve what we want but they do try. Scott was spot on with his comments. As others on here have said 98% of supporters are happy enough with things in general. We all have our oppinions and sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong. Anyway, roll on Gainsborough. Tip- if the old farts want to release their frustrations at someone, try the ref. It works for me.
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I'm 100% behind Rob Scott and his comments.Some people seem to have quickly forgotten how far we have come in the last 16 to 18 months and need to get a grip on reality.Nobody likes to lose,but thats our first league defeat since August.We've got the most honest bunch of players we've had in a long time,who give everything.There is no excuse for these idiots.It's never right to single out individuals for abuse-whatever the disappointment of the result.
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Boston fans have never been very vocal, even in the 60s the "fans" who went to watch the big Stars at the Gliderdrome were notorious for their silence :)
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Boston fans have never been very vocal, even in the 60s the "fans" who went to watch the big Stars at the Gliderdrome were notorious for their silence :)
except the night Plonk Lane of the Small faces got a little involved with Boston Fans. DUCK ;D
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The reality is some people will always moan - the management did to get over it and focus elsewhere. The moaners
aren't going to change, everyone knows that.
Whatever the players do on the pitch it is never going to be enough for some, if people feel this strongly about the moaners, then the next time they start, drown them - sorry I meant drown them out with positive comments or singing.
If they are totally abusive then report them and have them kicked out......
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Yesterday was one of the few away games I have not been able to attend. I am no spring chicken myself but I could never bring myself to moan at our managers no matter the result of one game. I suspect I know who one off these moaners may be so I am not surprised for over the last few seasons he has always positioned himself near the dugout at away games and moaned no matter how the team has played. I recall at one away game a couple of years back he was having a pop at Tommy Taylor and Tommy said to us " What time has he to be back in the asylum"
Take the same view Rob and Paul and carry on your great work. I agree with many on here who have said there are moaners at any club it is the way of the footballing world.
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I am Boston bred but I can tell you it is part of this town's make up. Moan moan and moan again.
Now years ago I'd have scoffed at that, but after so long away from Boston I agree. It is part of the make up of so many people in the town. Certainly not all and certainly there are many very optimistic and positive individuals.
Makes me want to stand near the old moaning git and give him some stick and see how he likes it!
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I was in management, and if a problem happened at the factory, my fellow townies would moan about the situation and go for a cup of tea, and then moan when the problem was solved and they had to go back to work.
Workers from away used to try and solve the problem and get on with it.
Mind you I found any worker from Lincoln lazy sods.
You cannot tar everyone with the same brush, but in my opinion us Boston supporters are a fickle lot.
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This game is just a blip in what has so far been a very positive season; I wasn't there yesterday but it appears we were beaten by a better side. As for the moaning that has obviously upset RS; I think he has the right to say what He's feeling; time and time again I've had to listen to people moaning and complaining about the team; yes we have the right to an opinion as we pay our entry price but to outright slag players off is not helping anyone. I really can't understand and obide people that constantly moan; if it's that bad and you have nothing else to say; don't bother turning up as you really aren't a fan of this now again proud football club. Rant over; now lets move forward and rebuild and concentrate on getting another postive run of performances together. I have complete trust in what everyone is doing at Boston and long may that continue. Up the Pilgrims!!!
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having sat in the fantasy stand a few times it is a very depressing place to be when things aren`t going right and the old gits strike up,you can feel the life being sucked out of you......just an idea,why not move the dugouts to the other side of the pitch
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I do hope the irony of using this thread to moan about the people who moan all the time isn't lost on anyone.
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I do hope the irony of using this thread to moan about the people who moan all the time isn't lost on anyone.
Quality :D
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I do hope the irony of using this thread to moan about the people who moan all the time isn't lost on anyone.
Quality :D
Pmsl... top spotting
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If this muppet goes on BUSA transport why not ban him,I am sure he won't use his own vehicle to away games to hurl abuse at the managers...
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As far as I am aware the main perpetrator does not or ever has travelled with BUSA, but knowing his profession he is not behaving in a credible manner and is badly letting himself down!!!
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Whilst I agree with most of what Rob said about the supporters I feel that those things should be said at fans forums not at after match analysis.Rise above it Rob most people realise things aren't going to go our way all the time and are right behind the pair of you.
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http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/sport/Furious-boss-Rob-Scott-slams-section-Boston-United-fans-following-4-0-loss/article-2893898-detail/article.html
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Boston fans have never been very vocal, even in the 60s the "fans" who went to watch the big Stars at the Gliderdrome were notorious for their silence :)
except the night Plonk Lane of the Small faces got a little involved with Boston Fans. DUCK ;D
I was there that night and remember it well, used to enjoy my Saturday nights "down the Glider", until we went one night in the 70s, stood at the back and could see over the top of everyone in there and realised we'd got too old for the place. :(
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Totally agree with you Janby. I sit behind him at home games and he is always having a go at any player who is having a bad game.
'Get him off, get him off' is his battle cry.
If he's not happy then why come??
However, I understand that the other two moaners are BUSA travellers.
Can any action be taken?
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I went on Saturday and it was just one of those days when nothing went right. Their first goal was worthy of breaking our amazing defensive record, and Droyslden done seemed to gain in confidence, they looked a very useful side. We looked tired and didn't really get going and ended up soundly beaten, but it happens in football. What made a bad day even worse was when a couple of"Farmer Dan, angry old man" :dan :dan types decide to berate our team and managers. What one was saying was utter rubbish, even Andy Townsend displayed more footballing insight in his tactics truck! I enjoy away games as the support is always great but one or two seemed to have escaped from their strait-jackets on Saturday. I think we should help boost/ double Gainsborough's support on Saturday and put them in the away end so they can slag their own team off to a more appreciative audience :dan
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A player doesn't even have to have a bad game - it only takes one mistake for some idiot to start having a go.
The idiots don't seem to realise how this can affect the players. With such a young team, if things aren't going quite right on the pitch, they need encouragement, not abuse.
Dave H - I agree that Saturday was one of those days. On another day we could have had 3 or 4 ourselves - their keeper made two great saves in the first half from Shaun and SWD. The keeper admitted that he gave Telford a couple in their last game after their long trip back from Havant, but unfortunately he was back on form on Saturday!
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I haven't been able to get to many games this season but even so, I think this abuse is completely unneccesary. We're flying high in the league this season, much higher than I think we honestly expected. Fair enough, if the players aren't giving the effort and don't care for the shirt then give them hell, but from what I've seen/heard, they're giving 100% every week.
I'm worried if it continues then Paul and Rob are just going to think 'balls to this, we'll go somewhere where the fans aren't complete numpties'
Saying that, moaning fans are a problem at every club :D
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Let's face it, we could be winning every game 5-0 and there would still be at least one person moaning.
I can remember when we were 4-0 up at half-time at home to Durham and someone stood near me said that it wasn't good enough. He seemed very happy at the end of the game though.
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These moaners know before they attend the game that they are going to watch a BSN game and should judge the standard of football accordingly . If they are spending money on travel and admission to matches every week and expecting to see top class players at this level it tells us everything about their football knowledge.
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My original start to this topic wasnt really meant about the grumpy gramps,who they are why they are and when they are wherever they are!!!I sit in fantasy stand and i tell you some of them wouldnt be happy in paradise Im just so suprised at the managers current reactions,they are more than capable of ignoring these idiots.Its always the so few that spoil it for the majority.I sincerly hope that ROB and PAUL are big enough to dismiss these grumpy gramps for what they really are and see the bigger appreciative fantastic fan base we have at Boston Utd.
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First of all let me say that I feel S and H are doing a first class job and I admire their approach and ability.
However the problem of old goats moaning isnt new as its been covered many times on here.
What is new is that its "got" to them!.
Surely as ex pro's they've been given flak in the past? (I'm in no way condoning idiots who slate the team while theyre playing).
I just cant understand why a couple of day release types have touched a nerve so. There is a couple near me who only make any noise when a player plays a pass that doesnt come off. I really dont unerstand it. You can imagine them telling their 5 yr olds that they are rubbish when they bring their first piece of "art" home from school! it is cofidence sapping.
Maybe the managers will get an oppurtunity to speak to Neil Thompson on Saturday about abuse. Not just a few old geezers for him but a tirade of offensive and wrongly aimed venom over a long period.
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I can only agree with what's been said above - we made mistakes on Saturday but the players never stopped trying, even when we were 3 and 4 nil down. We're not going to win every game...
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i can remember last season when we managed to nick a draw against hucknall in the last minute, and as we do we all gatherd towards the tunnel to give them a clap etc
and right next to me was a some old bloke as S&H walked past shouting on top of his voice and point towards RS " BOOOOOOO, YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE MANAGERS " RS looked at him gone-out considering he was the only within everyone near the tunnel
now that was a year ago and obviously theres been other things that have annoyed S&H and if im honest it would me aswell
some people should really think before they open there mouth, some would be the first to moan if we we're battling against relegation but yet when where at the top end of the table they still don't give any encouragement its a Lose-Lose situation in some ways
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Does the quality of fan go with the league? Perhaps these morons are practising at Boston in the NPL hoping that they become astute enough to one day become Lincoln supporters in the big one.
Let's not loose sight of where we were a couple of years ago when we were concerned about having any football at all, get behind the lads, includiing the managers, and play our part in a resounding victory over Gainsborough. The key word is UNITED.
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Indeed. I've seen the lads over 20 times in 2010 and Saturday was my first defeat this year. We've got very little to complain about, whatever certain fans are saying.