Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: woad_pilgrim on April 05, 2010, 08:26:07 PM
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Seeing as no-one is bothering I'll give my views.
Started off brightly and scored with our first real meaningful shot on target. After that we seemed content to sit on the lead for the rest of the half and invited pressure from Hucknall, but cannot really remember Evans making 1 save although they had a couple of good chances that they fired high/wide. We had a Davidson header cleared off the line and that was it from a disappointing first half.
Second half was a different story, we where camped in their half and created chances at will, scoring 3 more and missing many more. Had another 2 cleared off the line, SWD hit the post, Newsh missed an open goal after rounding the keeper it could of been 8 or 9 no exaggeration. They scored from their only meaningful attack, they did have another disallowed but he was miles offside.
First half was poor second half was more like it hopefully we can carry that into the Guiseley game, win that and we'll be well in the hunt for the title whatever Wednesday's result (although a draw would still suit us best IMO).
Edit: Was about 300-350 Boston in the crowd hardly heard a cheer when they scored. Another great turnout and I'm sure it helps the lads being like a home from home (apart from the surroundings).
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I can think of at least a couple of games where we have played poorly in the first half and then been a completely different team in the second. It's refreshing to know we have a couple of managers who know exactly what to say at half-time to motivate the players.
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I think we would be a dangerous team if we ever played for the full ninty minutes!!.In the end we might have had 8 or 9 with a bit more luck and i always thought we had a couple of gears left if we had needed them.All in all a decent performance on a pitch where you could never predict the bounce.Thought Semple was excellent down the right,lots of quality crosses.Good turn out of fans as well.
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It seemed too easy, how did we make it so hard last season?
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As we had no game today I decided to go to Watnall Road. The first half was fairly scrappy, not helped by the pitch which made free flowing passing football difficult. However, I always felt you were in total control. Second half you made your superiority tell and as Woady said it could have been many more.
At times it felt like "men against boys" especially your defence against their young attack, where you were far too strong physically for them (but not in a dirty way).
As for their offside goal, I would not say it was miles offside! I was sat directly in line with it and when the ball was played it was touch and go although just off. He looked a yard offside when he headed it in.
You did go to sleep at the corner for their consolation goal, allowing a free header at the far post.
Well deserved win that probably should have been by more.
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It seemed too easy, how did we make it so hard last season?
Over rated players picking up top dollar for tossing it off & a manager who didn't give a toss, his record reeked of mediocrity.Dave should have got shut after the 1st summer, one of his few mistakes in his time in charge.
These two aren't flash and the one thing I like about them is they don't make many bad signings.
As I said before, it might not be a disaster if we miss out this season, keep this squad together and without the 6-8 weeks of gelling that cost us silly home points this season we could walk the league next season.
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As for their offside goal, I would not say it was miles offside! I was sat directly in line with it and when the ball was played it was touch and go although just off. He looked a yard offside when he headed it in.
Fair do's you where obviously in a better position as I was at the other end, so we got the benefit of the doubt. Must say the ref seemed decent again today although he missed a couple of handball's 1 of which was in the area.
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As I said before, it might not be a disaster if we miss out this season, keep this squad together and without the 6-8 weeks of gelling that cost us silly home points this season we could walk the league next season.
Agree it wouldn't be a disaster and we would walk the league if we can keep the squad together. Personally think we'd be top 10 in Conf North with this side too. The only issue is I think if we don't go up this season we could lose several players looking to play higher or to bigger payers, but if we do go up we will IMO be able to keep most of the squad.
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Still being up in Lincolnshire meant that i could get to today's game which regrettably was the first away game since Telford i think (terrible i know but the clue is in my name).
It was a truely terrible pitch and you were just not able to pass it with any confidence on their but i thought we adapted quite well and the hard yards of the first half allowed for the pressure in the second. Newsham should have had 4 himself but it was good to see him there to miss them. Thought DD did little compared to Suarez who won nearly every ball when he came on and looked a different class to DD, but DD got his goal so well played.
My one criticism after watching both this weekend's matches was Davies in midfield who doesn't seem to tackle as well as Church to do the enforcer roal and doesn't pass it awa well as sleath to be the playmaker. Thought Sleath was much better than him when he played and that would be my one change for saturday.
Let's hope that wednesday goes in our favour to let us at least get 2nd and go from there.
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The only dark cloud over this is I fear we have to get up this year as we will more than likely go South (with Lynns demise) next year.
I think Davies is in for Sleath to slug it out to the finish line, same for Danny D. I can see their thinking and it will probably be needed for the melting pot of Saturdays games.
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The "men" in our defence today FT had a average age of 21 .
Noughtyforties assessment of management past and present is spot-on . I cannot recall in the many decades of following BU a management team making so few bad signings . The days of discarding players on long contracts with big pay-offs are now gone ,
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Cardiff - I thought your shirt was rather tight fitting today ;D
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The only dark cloud over this is I fear we have to get up this year as we will more than likely go South (with Lynns demise) next year.
If we were to go South it would be a disaster.I'm sure it would mean losing Scott and Hurst and the majority of the players.Yet more upheaval just when the club is gaining stability.I don't even want to think about it.
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It fitted a darn sight better than i thought it would mate
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A lot was made of the wind influencing the match at North Ferriby last weekend, but for me it was equally windy at Hucknall this afternoon. It was quite comical when I entered the ground, as the ten pound note I was using for admission blew out of the turnstyle operator's hand and ended up on the pitch! The wind, coupled with a boggy pitch, was never going to make for attractive football and I don't remember many games when so many balls have been kicked out of the ground. But overall I thought Boston adapted best to the conditions.
Newsham should have had a hat-trick today; he scored two from a combined distance of about three yards out, but then somehow managed to lob the ball over an empty goal in the second half. It really did look easier to score. Weir-Daley probably should have scored with a first-half lob as well, but his shot went wide. If we'd taken our chances we would have won by more than 4-1. Davidson had a better game than he's been having in recent weeks.
Chris Wood did well at centre-half deputising for Canoville and Pearson was dependable as usual. But maybe Tom Evans had a couple of uncomfortable moments? I'm not sure whether Hucknall's second "goal" was offside or not, but I thought Evans' positioning was susceptible. He came and then stopped, allowing the Hucknall player to head home unchallenged.
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Newsham should have had a hat-trick today; he scored two from a combined distance of about three yards out, but then somehow managed to lob the ball over an empty goal in the second half.
It was more difficult than that makes it sound, he beat the keeper but players were getting back and just rolling it in wouldn't have been enough. It was quite a quick thought to loft it into the air over the players on the line but being his weaker foot it let him down. It wasn't a simple tap in ;)
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that pitch today was as bad as ive ever seen us play on ever and definitely didnt suit our football and at the end of the day they were rubbish so 4/1 really was a flattering result for us. great turnout supporter wise mind any body got an idea how many travelled today
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Newsham should have had a hat-trick today; he scored two from a combined distance of about three yards out, but then somehow managed to lob the ball over an empty goal in the second half.
It was more difficult than that makes it sound, he beat the keeper but players were getting back and just rolling it in wouldn't have been enough. It was quite a quick thought to loft it into the air over the players on the line but being his weaker foot it let him down. It wasn't a simple tap in ;)
With Newsham having adopted the nickname "Tap in"during the course of the season I dare say that
not many supporters are questioning his strike rate so far but unlike Lord Beckett's appraisal of his
goals yesterday I would tend to go with Leicester Pilgrims interpretation of Marks goals.Leicester Pilgrim
always imo gives a fair and unbaised anyalisis of the matches he attends and would make a good Club
reporter should a position become available. As far as Newsham is concerned his strike rate is very
commendable but I have to question his work rate.
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As far as Newsham is concerned his strike rate is very commendable but I have to question his work rate.
Oh no, here we go again.
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Must say the ref seemed decent again today although he missed a couple of handball's 1 of which was in the area.
Agreed, I thought the ref had a decent game, yes he missed a couple of things but overall no complaints. If all our games were officiated with such competence I would have no complaints!!
Look forward to seeing you all a week tomorrow, when the Ilson pitch will suit you more than yesterday :( That's assuming I can get away from Finchley early enough!!
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With Newsham having adopted the nickname "Tap in"during the course of the season I dare say that
not many supporters are questioning his strike rate so far but unlike Lord Beckett's appraisal of his
goals yesterday I would tend to go with Leicester Pilgrims interpretation of Marks goals.Leicester Pilgrim
always imo gives a fair and unbaised anyalisis of the matches he attends and would make a good Club
reporter should a position become available. As far as Newsham is concerned his strike rate is very
commendable but I have to question his work rate.
I agree he should of had a hat-trick yesterday, he couldn't miss either of his 2 goals and did miss other chances most notably the open goal which he should of done better with. To be fair though he gets into the positions to pick up scraps and I'm more than happy for him to continue to "tap in".
As far as his workrate is concerned I presume you haven't seen any of our games since Jamie went on loan to Glapwell, admittedly when Newsh was played up front he didn't track back but played wide right he does. Evidence of that was him making a challenge in our penalty area when their forward was otherwise clean through on goal.
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As far as his workrate is concerned I presume you haven't seen any of our games since Jamie went on loan to Glapwell.
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Your observation Woad-Pilgrim is very commendable and I do accept from you that Newshams accomodated
position wide has resulted in him having to work a little harder than maybe he is used to,but I dare say
that goes with the territory of such a position.I can only recall him in a three man attack where his strike
partners overshadowed considerably his work rate in most games I witnessed. Lazy or clever player I
don't quite know,I only say it how I see it and you are right, I am not his biggest fan. Having said that,
I will take my hat off to him if he comes up with a 'tap in'winner in a playoff final should that happen. ;)
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lazy or not 25 goals can't moan at that i think
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I think some of the players must look at this forum from time to time.If you watch the video interview with Chris Wood on the O/S he mentions "tap in Newsh" while having a little smile.There have been times when i've wondered about his work rate,but he's now got 25 for the season and that will do for me.
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Newsham is a very intelligent footballer - not a headless chicken.
at 25 goals he can sit on a deck chair in the pen box and wait for the ball fo me.
Remember Ken Charlery? score one goal and disappear and least Newey gets 2.
A mate of mine went to see Leeds v Colchester awhile back.
He thought Beckford was the laziest player he had ever seen, so what is David Moyes going to get him to do?
Berbatov cost £30 mill and he hardly stretches himself.
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Lineker hardly every bust a gut when he played either and he didn't do bad for himself
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Football is not just about how much you run but where and when you run, Yes Newsham isn't box to box in his style of play, but he is ball to net and as long as you have Church and Davies grafting in behind him then it works.
I think some of the players must look at this forum from time to time.If you watch the video interview with Chris Wood on the O/S he mentions "tap in Newsh" while having a little smile.There have been times when i've wondered about his work rate,but he's now got 25 for the season and that will do for me.
Newsham gets encouraged under the nickname 'Tap in' away from home quite a lot and in some of the grounds you can here every word. Right back at Nantwich the 'Tap in' nickname was being sung full voice when he dinked that beauty over the keeper with his left into the top corner.
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;) ;) Nice one Lord Beckett, point taken and what a cracking photo of Lineker's babe ;) ;)
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I think some of the players must look at this forum from time to time.If you watch the video interview with Chris Wood on the O/S he mentions "tap in Newsh" while having a little smile.There have been times when i've wondered about his work rate,but he's now got 25 for the season and that will do for me.
On a Saturday at York Street where teams come to defend from the off then Newsham is one of the first on the team sheet.
However, when the players are travelling for 3 hours to a game on a Wednesday night after half a days work against the better teams in this division you can't expect Sleath or Davis and Church to do enough running in the middle of the park in order to make it hard for the opposition. The most recent game that I can remember this being the case was against Whitby.
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Oh and yes I agree - Great photo of his missus!
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By far the most industrious striker i have seen in a Pilgrims shirt is Stuart Douglas , I think he averaged about 2 goals a season and set up none for his team mates . I think apart from his goals much of Newshams contribution is overlooked by many fans.
Going to read LCB posting now , (only looked at the photo !! ,)
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By far the most industrious striker i have seen in a Pilgrims shirt is Stuart Douglas , I think he averaged about 2 goals a season and set up none for his team mates . I think apart from his goals much of Newshams contribution is overlooked by many fans.
Going to read LCB posting now , (only looked at the photo !! ,)
Great point, everyone admired Stuart for his effort but you've got to look out how many goals he scored. The hardest thing for non-league managers is signing a prolific goal-scorer on reasonable wages, and in Newsham we have that, plenty of sides will be queuing up to sign him at the end of the season. Let's hope we get promoted else we might not be able to see his "tap in's" ;D next season !
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I was in the minority who thought douglas ran around like a headless chicken and did not appreciate his "work" as it was generally misplaced and not for the good of the team. I don't doubt his ethic and desire for the cause but give me Newsham any day.
When played out wide he tracked back and worked for the team very well, as has been said on this thread. the only complaint was the chances he missed on monday but it was better for him to be there to miss them than not be there at all. It may be this perceived lack of effort that would deny a man who has 25 goals this season the POTY award when he would normally be nailed on for it, but my vote goes to Pearson.
Let's hope that we go up and keep both of them as well as the core of the squad.
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i cant believe any boston fan can possibly criticise newsh,s contribution to our outstanding season so far.feck me what do you want ???
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I can't really believe we're even doubting Newsham what so ever, last year we could'nt buy a goal at times (just look at last seasons fixtures and notice the distinct lack of goals for large chunks of the season). True, he may not chase back and hassle defences like Ricky Millar did at the end of last season but do you think ricky would have banged in 25 with games still left to play? Maybe not, who knows.
I like Newsham, he's young and still developing physically so my opinion is that he will only improve with age and end up plying his trade at a higher level in the years to come. I hope thats with us but i think he will get snappped up if we fail to progress. It was often said that a certain Ian Rush "went missing" for 89 mins of a game but popped up and did the business time after time. Anyone who sticks the ball in the old "onion net" 25 times will do for me. It's a great indication though of our rise again as a club if we are even debating such a topic, i remember less than a year ago i was scratching my head for a player of the year and could think of perhaps two players i wanted us to retain in the close season.
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i cant believe any boston fan can possibly criticise newsh,s contribution to our outstanding season so far.feck me what do you want ???
It's called knit picking cappo. To all the knockers of Newsh just think were we would be without his 20 odd goals. Strikers are a rare breed and work rate is not important for a good striker. If he ran his guts out and back tracked all the time he most definately would not be our top goal scorer.
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i cant believe any boston fan can possibly criticise newsh,s contribution to our outstanding season so far.feck me what do you want ???
It's called knit picking cappo. To all the knockers of Newsh just think were we would be without his 20 odd goals. Strikers are a rare breed and work rate is not important for a good striker. If he ran his guts out and back tracked all the time he most definately would not be our top goal scorer.
I'm not sure there has been anyone knocking Newsh....................except maybe an implied criticism from the father of a player currently out on loan......... ;)
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Thought you'd be tucked up in bed by now Kim :o
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i cant believe any boston fan can possibly criticise newsh,s contribution to our outstanding season so far.feck me what do you want ???
It's called knit picking cappo. To all the knockers of Newsh just think were we would be without his 20 odd goals. Strikers are a rare breed and work rate is not important for a good striker. If he ran his guts out and back tracked all the time he most definately would not be our top goal scorer.
I'm not sure there has been anyone knocking Newsh....................except maybe an implied criticism from the father of a player currently out on loan......... ;)
Exactly right OCM that is the only forum contributer who has critisized Newsh, it was him who first called him "tap in". Personally if Newsh had played up front instead of wide midfield we'd be talking about a 30+ goal contribution now as well.
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I'm not sure there has been anyone knocking Newsh....................except maybe an implied criticism from the father of a player currently out on loan......... ;)
Before this thread gets completley out of context can we put to bed any alledged criticism of Mark
Newsham's performances this season.Any comments forwarded on to this forum by a father of a player
currently out on loan were always made from observations and were never intended to be critical or to
offend. Problems associated with these type of discussion forums are there is always someone who will
read to much into a comment and open up that proverbial 'can of worms' which takes a quite innocent
comment completley out of context.
Fact.. Newsham is not that type of box to box forward and I have seen better workrate from other squad
players, Fact.. no one is taking away his goal to appearance ratio neither the number of tap ins and
spot kicks he has contributed within his 25goal tally so far this season. As I have commented on before,
Mark Newsham is not my type of player and given consideration to the fact we all live in a democratic
society with freedom of speech surely I am entitled to those comments. I apologies if those sentiments
offend and would like to be given the opportunity of wishing Mark continued success.
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Something that has never been mentioned in the 'Newsham debate' is his passing abilities. Mark always looks for the simple ball when it is the best option. His pass completion rate is as good as anyone on the pitch every game. Newsham also shows great maturity for a young lad and it is obvious at times he had his football education at a higher level. He is a traditional footballer- keeps the ball on the grass and takes a pop at goal when given the chance and also has a few tricks of his own. If you look at the other successful forwards of recent times Daryl Clare was rarely seen in our defensive third but scored goals galore unlike Mark Rawle who's goal to game ratio wasn't as good as either Newsham's or Clare's. The other two mentioned were involved in promotion winning seasons in their first season lets hope Newsham makes it a hat-trick!!!
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Unfortunately Carl, I have just checked Ken's site and Rawle came to us half way through the 98/99 season and thus it was his second season that we won promotion (99/00).
I still echo the sentiment though.