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Title: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: joshb on August 13, 2015, 01:08:12 PM
Curzon have had 2 straight promotions and are yet to get beat in their 2 games so far- a home draw with Corby followed by a good point at Telford. Should we expect to get off the mark with a win- personally I'd see anything other than 3 points as a disappointment and early on, we'd be giving ourselves some catching up to do if we were to be 8 or 9pts off already.

Hopefully Alexander will be given another crack in goal and our defence will not leak the chances they did on Tuesday night. I don't buy Dennis' thinking that we were unlucky v Solihull. Yes decisions went against us and there were errors but they exposed us time and again and we rarely looked like scoring. I'm keen to see what the new left back will do given that he's now had a chance to settle in, as he was thrown in at the deep end on Tuesday.

The season starts Saturday.... right?
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Winging It on August 13, 2015, 03:44:52 PM
Personally Josh,  i think we were unlucky in many aspects !  Den is spot on with this.  We created enough chances to put a few goals away and what with the refs major failure on the red card that never came it was a game changer.  Solihull on my part look a good team and far better than Stockport.   Curzon are only picking up draws,  and from reports from fans of these teams they have played they are not that great.  I predict a win this weekend !

Alexander has to be in goal, he was awesome in midweek and the new left back deserves to be cheered under his correct name and not mocked as Rene !  I found that i bit disrespectful to be fair hearing it shouted from the town end.  Players want to be cheered on their own merits,  and apart from a few stray passes ( which on any debut will happen with new players looking to impress too much ) i thought he looked good both defending and coming forward.  Plenty of pluses in my opinion !!
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 13, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
We may have created enough, but we gave away far too much in defence and deservedly shipped 4 goals.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: dt woodhall on August 13, 2015, 09:21:09 PM
With Mills fitness a continuing prob, we need two defenders and a
b/s midfielder as well as Garner in midfield. then we can start the season
properly and see what happens. Both sides this season  that have beaten us
have had physicality all over the park. We need to muscle up and quick
or as usual we will be playing catch up again
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: father Ted on August 13, 2015, 11:21:04 PM
We need two defenders and a
b/s midfielder as well as Garner in midfield. then we can start the season
properly and see what happens.
   Now theres a point .I still think a manager should get his important new signings in by May/June , which for 2 seasons this one has failed to do .
       So a win on Sat  ,?, who's the opposition in the next few games  ?
                                          fT 
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Ferret on August 14, 2015, 08:39:19 AM
Check out the video of the first goal they conceded in their game against Corby.....and we though our defending was bad!

http://www.curzonashtonfc.co.uk/news/curzon-ashton-2-2-corby-town-watch-match-highlight-1470702.html

Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: green hats mate on August 14, 2015, 06:00:43 PM
We need two defenders and a
b/s midfielder as well as Garner in midfield. then we can start the season
properly and see what happens.
   Now theres a point .I still think a manager should get his important new signings in by May/June , which for 2 seasons this one has failed to do .
       So a win on Sat  ,?, who's the opposition in the next few games  ?
                                          fT 

Greene had signed up 8 players by  January for this season .   Two giants in mid-field !!!!!!! as Big M says on another  thread do that and moans of lack of creativity will emerge .     When the the Garner, Dixon and Roberts partnership let us down last season?
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: father Ted on August 14, 2015, 07:24:38 PM
 With respect  GHM , they were to play last season  . .
                   
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: green hats mate on August 14, 2015, 07:29:59 PM
With respect  GHM , they were to play last season  . .
                 

Don,t understand , please explain .
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: father Ted on August 14, 2015, 11:10:53 PM
 GHM ..Greenes 2015/16 signings are NOT major in my book .
  eg Remember Evans signing David Rennie  in May .. 
    But like you and maybe some other 'vets' I have  serious health issues which  preclude me from making the near 100 mile journey to York St ..
     So I will defer to your better offices
                            f T .
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: green hats mate on August 15, 2015, 08:39:41 AM
GHM ..Greenes 2015/16 signings are NOT major in my book .
  eg Remember Evans signing David Rennie  in May .. 
    But like you and maybe some other 'vets' I have  serious health issues which  preclude me from making the near 100 mile journey to York St ..
     So I will defer to your better offices
                            f T .

Who would be a manager ,  8 players contracted that ended the second half of the  season the form team in the league , I,m sure most teams in our league would considered  at  least Southwell , Pidge
(both in NC team of the year) Mills and Felix major signings at this level .

Many have high hopes that Rollins & Alexander will achieve the same status this season .

Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: B Grimes on August 15, 2015, 10:03:14 AM
Makelele, Alan Ball, Keane, Stiles, Couquelin, Bremner, Gentile, Giles, Hunter, and the infamous Wille Woodburn, are just some that come to mind that are hardly, by size, giant midfield players, suggesting its not bigger players we need, but perhaps simply for more aggression and determination to be shown by those we have?
Anyone can kick an opponent, enter Mr Vinne Jones to see that, but I am a great believer that physicality is a mind set thing, a ot of the best players in the world, in the premiership and yes even in NL football are not strapping six footers
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: oxo on August 15, 2015, 11:45:15 AM
Makelele, Alan Ball, Keane, Stiles, Couquelin, Bremner, Gentile, Giles, Hunter, and the infamous Wille Woodburn, are just some that come to mind that are hardly, by size, giant midfield players, suggesting its not bigger players we need, but perhaps simply for more aggression and determination to be shown by those we have?
Anyone can kick an opponent, enter Mr Vinne Jones to see that, but I am a great believer that physicality is a mind set thing, a ot of the best players in the world, in the premiership and yes even in NL football are not strapping six footers




Going back to the beginning of this thread I made the point that a certain midfielder didn't put in the effort required and should be replaced from the start by McGhee who is the same size but gives 100%. I also said and still think Garner should step forward in midfield to protect the back four when we have a center back to take his place hopefully Zak when fit. We do have midfielders with talent bur at this level it also needs 100% effort and commitment.      UTP.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Ernie100 on August 15, 2015, 11:47:10 AM
David Silva, Iniesta to name but two that are not big in stature.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: father Ted on August 15, 2015, 12:22:23 PM
Was (Norman)Hunter small ?
 He was a bite your legs off wide defender (putting it mildly !) .
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on August 15, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
David Silva, Iniesta to name but two that are not big in stature.

Granted, but both have to be on the top of their game to not disappear from it when faced with a larger opponent.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Sussex Pilgrim on August 15, 2015, 01:43:02 PM
Makelele, Alan Ball, Keane, Stiles, Couquelin, Bremner, Gentile, Giles, Hunter, and the infamous Wille Woodburn, are just some that come to mind that are hardly, by size, giant midfield players, suggesting its not bigger players we need, but perhaps simply for more aggression and determination to be shown by those we have?
Anyone can kick an opponent, enter Mr Vinne Jones to see that, but I am a great believer that physicality is a mind set thing, a ot of the best players in the world, in the premiership and yes even in NL football are not strapping six footers

Good post totally concur, a lot is writing about needing massive players but if they are donkeys then they'll equally get found out.  Like most things in life you need a balance Garner of a.n. other and the more technical players working off him worked last year so why not now.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: father Ted on August 15, 2015, 03:21:45 PM
BUFC prop up League after 200 mins of League football ..
  Ok 1-1 ..mid table awaits !
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: oxo on August 15, 2015, 06:28:05 PM
Well that was one of most ridiculous and pathetic games of football I have seen in years. First Curzon gave the ref no options with the sendings off so brought it on themselves and can have no qualms. How poor were we against 9 men in the second half although to be fair on their keeper he made some good saves. Liam Marrs at center half and was M O T M and deservedly so but bloody hell Dennis we look like a Sunday league outfit. Steer would have had half a dozen with all the ball our left back had still a position that needs sorting. Front two not firing and need some competition up there. I think we all know where we need strengthening and need back up so it is pointless trying to go through everything but we will be in serious trouble if we don't step things up soon.    UTP.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: howmanynames2pick on August 15, 2015, 06:40:21 PM
Can't say I enjoyed it either Oxo :)
Three points in the bag ...that's about it really.
Dayle really does take a good pen.
Top scorer with 4 in three matches ( 3 pens!)
Sad to see Pidge sent off, a giant loss.
Surprised Garns escaped a booking.
Rollins "revenge" foul was a bit petulant.
Agree about Marrs, although he had some wayward passes at times.
Just not jelling yet, but I believe it will .
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Winging It on August 15, 2015, 10:38:52 PM
Second half was poor, that there is no doubt as all we were doing was trying to run it to the corner flags before sticking balls across. At no point did i see us make runs central, taking on their weakened back line.  They had us sussed and defended well when they knew it was damage limitation for them.  Although,  some comments again are harsh on our team. I have seen countless top flight teams over the years struggle to break down opponents who have seen themselves down to nine !  Its not always as easy as it seems although we should have made more of the chances we had.

Yet again, the boo boys cannot help themselves.  What does please some at this club ?  The abuse at the end was disgusting and its these idiots that want outing, not the manager in my opinion !  Why would any player / manager want to come to this club when we have some chief clowns attending in the guise of proper fans !! 
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: howmanynames2pick on August 15, 2015, 10:48:47 PM
Second half was poor, that there is no doubt as all we were doing was trying to run it to the corner flags before sticking balls across. At no point did i see us make runs central, taking on their weakened back line.  They had us sussed and defended well when they knew it was damage limitation for them.  Although,  some comments again are harsh on our team. I have seen countless top flight teams over the years struggle to break down opponents who have seen themselves down to nine !  Its not always as easy as it seems although we should have made more of the chances we had.

Yet again, the boo boys cannot help themselves.  What does please some at this club ?  The abuse at the end was disgusting and its these idiots that want outing, not the manager in my opinion !  Why would any player / manager want to come to this club when we have some chief clowns attending in the guise of proper fans !!
Excellent.,,,,unfortunately some of those your comments are aimed at probably can't read.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: kodger on August 16, 2015, 12:17:33 AM
Second half was poor, that there is no doubt as all we were doing was trying to run it to the corner flags before sticking balls across. At no point did i see us make runs central, taking on their weakened back line.  They had us sussed and defended well when they knew it was damage limitation for them.  Although,  some comments again are harsh on our team. I have seen countless top flight teams over the years struggle to break down opponents who have seen themselves down to nine !  Its not always as easy as it seems although we should have made more of the chances we had.

Yet again, the boo boys cannot help themselves.  What does please some at this club ?  The abuse at the end was disgusting and its these idiots that want outing, not the manager in my opinion !  Why would any player / manager want to come to this club when we have some chief clowns attending in the guise of proper fans !!
Boston (the town) has always had more than its fair share of bigmouthed fools who love to show off in front of their friends.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Huntie on August 17, 2015, 10:58:00 AM
Tbh we need strength upfront, midfield and defense. Front two look like they don't know where the goal is and midfield look like there still in pre season and the defense are just falling out with each other, no team work.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: The Big M on August 17, 2015, 12:53:28 PM
Bit harsh about the front two Jones was going to score anyway and Southwell has 4. Admittedly 3 are pens but he still has to score. I think the keeper will be disappointed with the first goal
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 17, 2015, 05:05:54 PM
Tbh we need strength upfront, midfield and defense. Front two look like they don't know where the goal is
So do you think we should have binned the whole team in the summer, and started from scratch?

You're being very harsh on Southwell (4 in 3!) and Jones (has missed 1 sitter, was unlucky with one against Solihull and would've scored on Saturday before being clipped - the Curzon keeper also made a fantastic save from him).
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Odin on August 17, 2015, 05:19:35 PM
Sorry 86 but you could say similar things about other players in the squad, the problem is he hasn't scored and he is half of our strike force. I know its early days and This season I have only been able to get to friendlies but even in those he wasn't much to shout about. I hope he pulls his finger out and impresses but I just don't see it happening. If he proves me wrong I will be the first to apologise.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 17, 2015, 09:26:40 PM
I see Curzon have picked up another red card tonight ! Can't help having a hot head of a manager.

TEP
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton (H) 15/8/15
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 17, 2015, 11:17:08 PM
Sorry 86 but you could say similar things about other players in the squad, the problem is he hasn't scored and he is half of our strike force. I know its early days and This season I have only been able to get to friendlies but even in those he wasn't much to shout about. I hope he pulls his finger out and impresses but I just don't see it happening. If he proves me wrong I will be the first to apologise.
Mark Jones will hit double figures this season. He seems to score goals in bunches, which will hopefully start again tomorrow night.