Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Shoddys Lane on December 12, 2013, 10:00:37 AM
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http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news/local/action-group-to-form-to-fight-quadrant-plans-1-5744460
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Seems sensible enough to me, the plans will have a big impact on local residents so it's only fair that they have the opportunity to meet together before Chestnut's own public meeting. There are concerns there to be addressed - there always are with schemes of this nature. As long, of course, that the steering group don't just decide to oppose the scheme no matter what happens, as has happened here with the Nottingham tram.
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I can see there points on things such traffic,health and education but Chesnuts are doing all the consulting on those matters and will alter the plans to suit I would think so I can't really see what else there is to oppose to. This town badly needs investment and we desperately need a new stadium for our football club and community programme. It's got to happen
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The whole 'regeneration project' and planning application is based on the good of the community.
According to www.thequadrantboston.co.uk "the club integrate with 11,000 children a month, when the new community stadium is built at Q1 they can continue with this valuable work"!!!
Where?? There isn't a pitch or facility's in the plans (at the moment) for any of the 11 community football teams or the elite development teams (CofE).
If this is really a community project this should be addressed. Wyberton Sports & Social club as shut down I'm told, is their scope to incorporate this and wyberton sports field in to the plans? (For the good of the community?)
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The planned 3g pitch the proposed sports hall would be used for the community programme also there is plans in the stadium for class room and educational facilities for the community programme???
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The planned 3g pitch the proposed sports hall would be used for the community programme also there is plans in the stadium for class room and educational facilities for the community programme???
These will not be used by the community teams or the development teams. When I raised this point with David Newton he confirmed this and stated that the site isn't big enough. Maybe a pitch or two the other side the road and a few less houses would be a good idea?
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Was there a JCB in the side where the houses are going today?
Drove past there this morning but not 100% that this is the supermarket/house site.
To avoid panic in Wyberton I don't think they were digging footings.
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Please don't pick out little quotations to suit your argument Qwerty. The figure of 11.000 includes the clubs volunteers and staff members being out and about in the areas schools from the inadequate base of York street, in the new stadium there are lots of areas and officers from which to work and improve the work being done. As for the centre of excellence I know your lad bless him is involved and it is a worry, I would like to hear what Steve and his team of organisers are thinking and what plans they are working on for the future maybe if we knew our fears may be assuaged.
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The club is a massive part of the community and the new stadium is for the whole community to use. Classrooms for Community programmes and 3g pitch and sports hall for local sports Clubs to use.
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The planned 3g pitch the proposed sports hall would be used for the community programme also there is plans in the stadium for class room and educational facilities for the community programme???
These will not be used by the community teams or the development teams. When I raised this point with David Newton he confirmed this and stated that the site isn't big enough. Maybe a pitch or two the other side the road and a few less houses would be a good idea?
So who is to use the pitch?, because I thought it was the opposite in that the 3G was for the community teams and the firsts and CoE would remain where they were due to the poor location of Boston for catchment of kids/players (half our catchment is water or fields.) I've was unable to make the presentations so this is all 2nd hand info and from the site but the above differs from my understanding of the situation with the CoE.
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Why so many questions on here regarding The Quadrant there is a web site that answers the questions being raised, get on it and stop asking other people on here to get the answers, do it for yourselves.
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http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news/local/action-group-to-form-to-fight-quadrant-plans-1-5744460
with respect SL....why have you started a new thread about this.?....sure its an important topic,especially if you think you have concerns.....But thats why theres a special Quadrant website which invites queries and observations about this....people with concerns shouldnt be asking questions or raising awareness on PP.......
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Did anyone make the meeting last night?
Looks like the Wyberton Quadrant Action Group are firmly against the proposed development - they were handing out ‘STOP THE QUADRANT’ leaflets after the meeting. The fact they had these leaflets printed up before the consultation even happened is a bit strange. You’d have thought they would have gone along and listened to what was said about the plans and aired any concerns they had BEFORE they made their minds up and launched their campaign.
There’s also an e-petition and a website: www.thefutureofwyberton.co.uk
Worth taking a look at the blog page.... http://www.thefutureofwyberton.co.uk/Blog
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I didn't go but on twitter it said there were plenty of concerns raised but without concrete evidence, it seems the chestnuts had most bases covered on most apsects.
I think most of the concerns were regarding traffic problems, parking, schools and doctors/dentists demands.
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Be careful about making comments on this, I've been chastised by JP for posting the topic. ::)
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Did anyone make the meeting last night?
Looks like the Wyberton Quadrant Action Group are firmly against the proposed development - they were handing out ‘STOP THE QUADRANT’ leaflets after the meeting. The fact they had these leaflets printed up before the consultation even happened is a bit strange. You’d have thought they would have gone along and listened to what was said about the plans and aired any concerns they had BEFORE they made their minds up and launched their campaign.
There’s also an e-petition and a website: www.thefutureofwyberton.co.uk
Worth taking a look at the blog page.... http://www.thefutureofwyberton.co.uk/Blog
Just had a look at that blog. Seems many seem to think United should share with PRSA or actually use PRSA. No-one seems to remember that when PRSA was first mooted the idea was put forward then that United could use it - but according to stories at the time no PROFESSIONAL teams are allowed to play there. And I think the rugby club might have something to say about their facilities being shared
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The valid concerns the action group raised will all be dealt with by chestnut homes. So basically all the other concerns basically are from residents that don't want this development on there door step and some people just want it to stay as farm land.The area desperately needs investment and jobs and this is the perfect chance for the investment.
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More to the point, Newton is correct: it's not HIS job to provide health and education services. He's a property developer. This falls to the local authorities, who should be planning to alleviate pressure where it exists on services around Boston. And, of course, if private medical practitioners think they can turn a profit in the area then I'm sure they'll be snapping up some of the available commercial property and setting up shop.
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Exactly. Well said. The Chesnuts must be confident of getting planning permission as they say it is boston borough councils preferred location for development. Any development will have a certain amount of objection but many of the objections are not valid ones.
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There have been three or four opportunities to meet with the Chestnut Directors and study the plans and ask as many questions as anyone may have, but it is only when a anti development group is set up does the so called scouse pilgrim manage to get to Boston on a winters night in December to support it. He has never given a damn about the club and will only be happy when it folds, never attends games home or away but immediately jumps on board and gets over here if there seems to be a chance of helping to see the club fail. Also not surprised to see his number one disciple showing him support.
If you care about Boston United do not get involved with this individual on any issue involving the club as I say he wants nothing other than seeing the club fail.
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"Withdraw Central Lincolnshire joint core strategy, inspector tells councils :o
A planning inspector has told four Lincolnshire councils that they should withdraw their joint development plan from examination after concerns over its lack of a five-year housing land supply."
It seems likely that the Quadrant's quota of housing will weigh heavily in its favour with the inspectorate, should it go to appeal 8)
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I see on the Wyberton objectors blog only 11 different objectors have submitted to it since its conception on Dec 7th , not a lot of support there !
Reading some of the comments it arrears some of the objectors did not see the plans or if so did not understand what they saw . One person showed concern about football traffic parking down "low rd "
obviously they overlooked the extensive parking at the stadium .
A lady objected to "road right through a new housing estate " sorry but this is not a new concept madam they,ve been putting roads though housing estates since the motor car was invented .
Another person suggested the money should be spent on improving and doing more development in Boston town centre , not good idea with flood risk , shortage of parking and an already overloaded John Adams Way .
Boston according to the radio today have to build 4500 homes in the next 20 years to meet government targets , If proposals like this are turned down they must realise the target will never be achieved .
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Surely any person who runs a business in the proposed development area, ie dental practice, post office, shops, pubs wont be among the objectors. Certainly the dental practice will have to relocate because even now it's a pain in the butt and with the increase in population it Would increase the pain. As for the school and parking, well if good access from the new estate is provided to the school traffic would not increase much more unless the incoming parents are bone bloody idle and lazy to walk a short distance. I expect the only objectors will be residents with the "not in my backyard attitude" or individuals who post comments on here just to see who takes the bait.
Anyway, we live in a democracy, so we are told, and people have a right to object but we can be assured that right will come through, so we are told.
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There have been three or four opportunities to meet with the Chestnut Directors and study the plans and ask as many questions as anyone may have, but it is only when a anti development group is set up does the so called scouse pilgrim manage to get to Boston on a winters night in December to support it. He has never given a damn about the club and will only be happy when it folds, never attends games home or away but immediately jumps on board and gets over here if there seems to be a chance of helping to see the club fail. Also not surprised to see his number one disciple showing him support.
If you care about Boston United do not get involved with this individual on any issue involving the club as I say he wants nothing other than seeing the club fail.
Who is this number one disciple? i have scoured all the threads that SP has contributed too, and I can't see anyone supporting his views. ???
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Judging from the few comments on the Wyberton blog it appears non of the protesters have planning expertise , only the usual NIMBY approach . I guess lack of protests are down to the fact most villagers can see the benifits the development would bring to the neighbourhood like extended school and adjacent parking , secure the future of the local Post Office and contary to what the protesters would like us believe the road safety would be improved .
Big planning projects are judged on the merits of the application , don,t think planning officers and the government planning inspector are swayed by a few protesters .
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He made a further short comment at 6.55 today
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I see one of the posts on that blog is by a certain Mark Isaac and reads remarkably similar to a posting here by Scouse Pilgrim, who we all know is Mark, despite his denial. Christ.
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No idea if development is beneficial to town, but are BUFC fans supporting it just because of the new stadium development?
The big questions for fans of the club is,
1 Is there a plan B?
2. If Chestnuts don't get the requisite permissions, what then for BUFC?
3. How much longer will they subsidise the club?
As the lease on York St winds down, Have the fans set up an action committee, or is everything left to Chestnut Homes.
Scouse Pilgrim gets vilified on this forum for not buying into the dream- perhaps some of his points need to be addressed - while there is time
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No idea if development is beneficial to town, but are BUFC fans supporting it just because of the new stadium development?
The big questions for fans of the club is,
1 Is there a plan B?
2. If Chestnuts don't get the requisite permissions, what then for BUFC?
3. How much longer will they subsidise the club?
As the lease on York St winds down, Have the fans set up an action committee, or is everything left to Chestnut Homes.
Scouse Pilgrim gets vilified on this forum for not buying into the dream- perhaps some of his points need to be addressed - while there is time
A Think you will find its plan A or die for the club hence there been no plan B
B We crumble
C About a week after they say no at a guess.
The chestnuts are here as they feel by moving the club it can be made a viable buisness, Really dont think they will stay if they aint allowed to move forward
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I think they must be confident of making this happen. It ticks all the boxes regarding planning and preferred area of development by the borough council. There are no reasons I can see to reject proposals all objections are from local residents regarding traffic but this development will actually help with traffic in the area. Concerns over health and education can be met by contributions from the developers to these services.
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There would have to be a very good reason not to pass it, and, even if there was something significant and it got turned down, it is likely to be passed on appeal by Pickles and his Inspectorate ::) 8)