Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Ernie100 on October 14, 2023, 05:33:52 PM
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We have once again been knocked out of the FA Cup, lost 3-2. Hopefully now Cully will start looking for a striker.
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Sounds pretty grim....goal and penalty given away, playing against 10 men from lower league team.....very disappointing!
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Sad to say it's what we've got used to suffering over the last, gawd knows how many, years. :-[
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Would like to hear from somebody that went for their take on the game. Have to say its a very disappointing result against a team from a lower league. How many times does this happen!!! Still its all really irrelevant compared to what happened to the fan that was taken ill in the first half. Just hope he is ok.
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Hate to say it but we never looked like winning. They had more desire and wanted the game. So so disappointed, on way home with a crowd of ten and no mention of the game. Cannot see us scoring in most gmaes , boring to watch sadly. Another crap effort before the big round draw .
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Another shot ourselves in the foot day!.. so pleased with scoring ourselves that we totally lost concentration and let them stroll through us to equalise. An extremely poor backpass to the keeper - straight to the feet of one of their strkers and a ridiculous tackle in the penalty area... meanwhile, we seem to be very shot shy with nobody willing to have a punt except from set pieces.
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I have waited until today to try and give a balanced view. First I wish all the best to the man taken ill and wish him a full recovery.
I can't fault the commitment of our players but, except for a few they are not upto the job. Our summer recruitment was uninspiring to say the least. Myself and several others questioned this on this site at the time. Most were fringe players from average teams. As I have posted on another thread it is well over six hours since any of our forwards have scored a goal.
Back to yesterday. We were hustled off the ball too easily. We tried to play open football on a plastic pitch. We were beaten by a team who got their game plan right. Individual mistakes led to all three goals. With a big crowd and tight ground, I think it got to some of our young players.
A big well done to the 500+ supporters who made the journey.
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Any news on the man who was taken ill?... wishing him all the best!!
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Having been told we had “ done our homework” on Worksop at the fans forum it was clear that we hadn’t or the players didn’t take it in. They had acres of space on the wings in the first half and the 33 year old Terry Hawkridge turned our defence inside out. A poor performance and worrying for the rest of the season. Gyasi came on for about 15 minutes and touched the ball twice.
Four urinals for the whole ground
The usual Boston dick heads showing for a cup game, one of whom threw a bottle on the pitch. Soon led out by stewards but I don’t think any further action was taken. He would have a banning order if he did that at Boston.
David Newton had a face like thunder at the end of the match, and seemed to be in a daze. I hope he reads the riot act to management and the team
The Lock Keeper was a great pub, lovely food and a decent pint of Pedigree. Very friendly staff.
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Worksop FCs Twitter account says our fan is "in Bassetlaw Hospital, is comfortable and being looked after"
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I notice Liam Hughes (Worksop's number 10) has tweeted his best wishes to our fan who was taken unwell. Echos what we're all thinking, but well done to him for actually doing so.
I don't think any of our own players have done likewise. Surely it wouldn't have gone amiss for our players to put something up for themselves along similar lines? Especially after Ian Culverhouse promised only on Thursday that he'd get the player's to acknowledge our support?
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The usual Boston dick heads showing for a cup game, one of whom threw a bottle on the pitch. Soon led out by stewards but I don’t think any further action was taken. He would have a banning order if he did that at Boston.
The away day regulars are extremely well-behaved - I mean, they have to be as else BUSA or Newton would quickly identify them and have words or worse.
The problem is these one-off games when you see a load of unfamiliar faces acting up. Happened in the two Rochdale games and the play-off final at York when I saw loads of kids I'd never seen before spending the entire game more interested in goading York fans than watching the game, all while we knew plenty of more deserving fans who'd been unable to get a ticket and were stuck at home. It's annoying but it'll happen every time Boston have a "big" game.
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David Newton had a face like thunder at the end of the match, and seemed to be in a daze. I hope he reads the riot act to management and the team
Well its his show, he dictates the budget, appoints the managers and implements hybrid training. Its now time to ask questions because this happens far too often under his watch.
And before the usual "be grateful you still have a club to support" mob pipe up yes, I am grateful to have a club to support but he's not immune from criticism as it seems its he who has the final say on everything. The club seems to have slipped into a torpor of mediocrity, a 'Happy just to be here' attitude stinks the place out.
Saturday exposed the team as lacking leaders, lacking strength and lacking the bottle needed to overcome a physical but limited opponent. Team selection is Cully's department, but if this is the best the budget allows then its back to the board.
We were told in no uncertain terms the new ground would be a game changer; as far as I can see its just a case of The Emperors New Clothes.
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Well the ground has been a game changer financially, insofar as we're not being propped up by the Chestnuts (as much) - a completely unsustainable position that really made us no better than clubs like Fylde, who you consistently rail against on Twitter as being a hobby club. Why were we much different at York Street? Prior to the ground move and without their support, we would probably find ourselves outspent by Boston Town.
As for "it's now time to ask questions", there was a forum on Thursday night where you could do precisely that and you opted not to go.
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Well the ground has been a game changer financially, insofar as we're not being propped up by the Chestnuts (as much) - a completely unsustainable position that really made us no better than clubs like Fylde, who you consistently rail against on Twitter as being a hobby club. Why were we much different at York Street? Prior to the ground move and without their support, we would probably find ourselves outspent by Boston Town.
As for "it's now time to ask questions", there was a forum on Thursday night where you could do precisely that and you opted not to go.
pointless asking those kind of questions, you and I both know you'll get shouted down by the happy clappers, the self same people that welcomed Evans and co with open arms.
I long ago gave up on forums, its nothing more that a back slapping exercise lapped up by the masses who accept every last word uttered by the club as gospel.
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We were told in no uncertain terms the new ground would be a game changer; as far as I can see its just a case of The Emperors New Clothes.
It probably didn't help that it opened during the pandemic. We could hardly hit the ground running at the time, with all the uncertainty over seasons being incomplete and/or ending early.
We stumbled into the play offs in the first full season with fans, losing out in the final. The next season was a horror show for several month, after the shocking recruitment in the summer - when you'd think we were in prime position to move forward, and go one better in the play offs. Weirdly, we only got 1 more point at home in the play off season, that the one where we fought relegation for most of it. The division got harder, too, as Gloucester got into the play offs with 68 points (compared to our 63 the year before).
It was clear last year that Culverhouse was struggling to bring in the players he wanted, and therefore relied on young loan players (who would be taught how to play football by their parent clubs) to plug the gaps in quality. We seemed to the change formations, too - using 3/4/5 at the back.
This year it's been a blank canvas and the senior players brought in are better than last season's players. Unfortunately, we lack depth at both ends of the pitch which means we either have a different back 4 each week or struggle with a plan B (wingers) when things aren't quite working out - this has affected away games more than home. The football is 100% better than 12 months ago, and IC takes the credit for this. However, we can't just go into every game with the same plan, especially away, expecting to win. The Alfreton game was a perfect example of this.
We're now using (cheap?) U23s to plug the gaps where we used U23s from EFL clubs before. They are our players so it allows more flexibility, more coaching and more familiarity within the squad. This should see long term benefits, it may even see us have a really strong 2nd half of the season. Dylan Hill is the 1 U23 that has already forced himself into the team (and Tyler Knowles), albeit out of position due to injuries. The other U23s might be disappointed not to get many minutes, espically Wilson (he's injured too now).
If anyone was expecting the new hybrid model to translate into immediate results, then they've been disappointed - especially away from the JCS. We have the solid base of 4 wins out of 5 at home. The season is nowhere near a disaster, though. The minimum we could ask for this season is comfort away from the bottom and we're getting that. We need to cement a top half place and then kick on towards the play offs. 3 homes games in a week coming up should help...
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pointless asking those kind of questions, you and I both know you'll get shouted down by the happy clappers, the self same people that welcomed Evans and co with open arms.
I know one "negative" question did get short shrift on Thursday night but it was a question most people thought was a bit daft.
As for the "Evans happy clappers" - are they even still around these days? The most vocal ones of that bunch went AWOL in summer 2007 and were never seen again!
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It probably didn't help that it opened during the pandemic. We could hardly hit the ground running at the time, with all the uncertainty over seasons being incomplete and/or ending early.
We stumbled into the play offs in the first full season with fans, losing out in the final. The next season was a horror show for several month, after the shocking recruitment in the summer - when you'd think we were in prime position to move forward, and go one better in the play offs. Weirdly, we only got 1 more point at home in the play off season, that the one where we fought relegation for most of it. The division got harder, too, as Gloucester got into the play offs with 68 points (compared to our 63 the year before).
It was clear last year that Culverhouse was struggling to bring in the players he wanted, and therefore relied on young loan players (who would be taught how to play football by their parent clubs) to plug the gaps in quality. We seemed to the change formations, too - using 3/4/5 at the back.
This year it's been a blank canvas and the senior players brought in are better than last season's players. Unfortunately, we lack depth at both ends of the pitch which means we either have a different back 4 each week or struggle with a plan B (wingers) when things aren't quite working out - this has affected away games more than home. The football is 100% better than 12 months ago, and IC takes the credit for this. However, we can't just go into every game with the same plan, especially away, expecting to win. The Alfreton game was a perfect example of this.
We're now using (cheap?) U23s to plug the gaps where we used U23s from EFL clubs before. They are our players so it allows more flexibility, more coaching and more familiarity within the squad. This should see long term benefits, it may even see us have a really strong 2nd half of the season. Dylan Hill is the 1 U23 that has already forced himself into the team (and Tyler Knowles), albeit out of position due to injuries. The other U23s might be disappointed not to get many minutes, espically Wilson (he's injured too now).
If anyone was expecting the new hybrid model to translate into immediate results, then they've been disappointed - especially away from the JCS. We have the solid base of 4 wins out of 5 at home. The season is nowhere near a disaster, though. The minimum we could ask for this season is comfort away from the bottom and we're getting that. We need to cement a top half place and then kick on towards the play offs. 3 homes games in a week coming up should help...
Excellent summary I think.
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We were told in no uncertain terms the new ground would be a game changer; as far as I can see its just a case of The Emperors New Clothes.
It probably didn't help that it opened during the pandemic. We could hardly hit the ground running at the time, with all the uncertainty over seasons being incomplete and/or ending early.
We stumbled into the play offs in the first full season with fans, losing out in the final. The next season was a horror show for several month, after the shocking recruitment in the summer - when you'd think we were in prime position to move forward, and go one better in the play offs. Weirdly, we only got 1 more point at home in the play off season, that the one where we fought relegation for most of it. The division got harder, too, as Gloucester got into the play offs with 68 points (compared to our 63 the year before).
It was clear last year that Culverhouse was struggling to bring in the players he wanted, and therefore relied on young loan players (who would be taught how to play football by their parent clubs) to plug the gaps in quality. We seemed to the change formations, too - using 3/4/5 at the back.
This year it's been a blank canvas and the senior players brought in are better than last season's players. Unfortunately, we lack depth at both ends of the pitch which means we either have a different back 4 each week or struggle with a plan B (wingers) when things aren't quite working out - this has affected away games more than home. The football is 100% better than 12 months ago, and IC takes the credit for this. However, we can't just go into every game with the same plan, especially away, expecting to win. The Alfreton game was a perfect example of this.
We're now using (cheap?) U23s to plug the gaps where we used U23s from EFL clubs before. They are our players so it allows more flexibility, more coaching and more familiarity within the squad. This should see long term benefits, it may even see us have a really strong 2nd half of the season. Dylan Hill is the 1 U23 that has already forced himself into the team (and Tyler Knowles), albeit out of position due to injuries. The other U23s might be disappointed not to get many minutes, espically Wilson (he's injured too now).
If anyone was expecting the new hybrid model to translate into immediate results, then they've been disappointed - especially away from the JCS. We have the solid base of 4 wins out of 5 at home. The season is nowhere near a disaster, though. The minimum we could ask for this season is comfort away from the bottom and we're getting that. We need to cement a top half place and then kick on towards the play offs. 3 homes games in a week coming up should help...
Not sure the league necessarily got harder. The number of teams increased from 22 to 24, so the points total into the playoffs was bound to increase. Other than that, can agree with most of this.
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Fair enough - forgot about the increase in games!