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The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: lonegunman on August 09, 2015, 08:34:40 AM

Title: The new ground.
Post by: lonegunman on August 09, 2015, 08:34:40 AM
I keep hearing differing reports about it. Some say, it's all good and will be started soon. Others are now telling me, it's on hold as it's got to be approved yet again.
Can anyone clear this up and tell me the truth please.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 09, 2015, 09:34:11 AM
It has full approval, and building starts when all funding is secured.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: lonegunman on August 09, 2015, 11:45:43 AM
Thank you P86, i can now kick the bloke who told me it was in trouble in the dangly department of the trousers!
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 09, 2015, 12:12:02 PM
when all funding is secured.

This is the bit that concerns me. Be nice to have an update on that front when the club is able to give one.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Bostonshire on August 09, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
From Newton himself.

          2 of the grants we have applied for we will not be getting leaving a funding gap of a few million but he is positive that this funding will be in place in time for the mass roadworks towards the end of this year to start
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Steelihat on August 09, 2015, 06:30:25 PM
From Newton himself.

          2 of the grants we have applied for we will not be getting leaving a funding gap of a few million but he is positive that this funding will be in place in time for the mass roadworks towards the end of this year to start

Funding gap of a few million?

A few questions BUFC fans might want answers to

How much is the ground costing?
Where will funding come from if grants not available
Will "Investors" own the new stadium
Is there a plan B

Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: oxo on August 09, 2015, 07:34:17 PM
From Newton himself.

          2 of the grants we have applied for we will not be getting leaving a funding gap of a few million but he is positive that this funding will be in place in time for the mass roadworks towards the end of this year to start

Funding gap of a few million?

A few questions BUFC fans might want answers to

How much is the ground costing?
Where will funding come from if grants not available
Will "Investors" own the new stadium
Is there a plan B





Don't need you to tell us the questions to ask, worry about your own position and keep your nose out.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Steelihat on August 10, 2015, 06:16:54 PM
From Newton himself.

          2 of the grants we have applied for we will not be getting leaving a funding gap of a few million but he is positive that this funding will be in place in time for the mass roadworks towards the end of this year to start

Funding gap of a few million?

A few questions BUFC fans might want answers to

How much is the ground costing?
Where will funding come from if grants not available
Will "Investors" own the new stadium
Is there a plan B





Don't need you to tell us the questions to ask, worry about your own position and keep your nose out.

What a pathetic response to a serious question.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 11, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
From Newton himself.

          2 of the grants we have applied for we will not be getting leaving a funding gap of a few million but he is positive that this funding will be in place in time for the mass roadworks towards the end of this year to start

Funding gap of a few million?

A few questions BUFC fans might want answers to

How much is the ground costing?
Where will funding come from if grants not available
Will "Investors" own the new stadium
Is there a plan B

Despite the previous hostile reply, all valid questions. With any luck, there'll be a forum in the Autumn when these can be put directly to the board.

If I recall correctly, I believe the stadium will be transferred to a community interest type company, won't it? It won't be owned by 'investors'. 

Can't say I'm unduly concerned about it all going tits up, but the longer it drags on, the more keen everyone is to see spades in the ground, especially with the lease running down. Newton's a very patient bloke though, and likes doing stuff properly. I'm sure it's all gone quiet for good reason.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on August 11, 2015, 04:40:36 PM
From Newton himself.

          2 of the grants we have applied for we will not be getting leaving a funding gap of a few million but he is positive that this funding will be in place in time for the mass roadworks towards the end of this year to start

Funding gap of a few million?

A few questions BUFC fans might want answers to

How much is the ground costing?
Where will funding come from if grants not available
Will "Investors" own the new stadium
Is there a plan B

Despite the previous hostile reply, all valid questions. With any luck, there'll be a forum in the Autumn when these can be put directly to the board.

If I recall correctly, I believe the stadium will be transferred to a community interest type company, won't it? It won't be owned by 'investors'. 

Can't say I'm unduly concerned about it all going tits up, but the longer it drags on, the more keen everyone is to see spades in the ground, especially with the lease running down. Newton's a very patient bloke though, and likes doing stuff properly. I'm sure it's all gone quiet for good reason.

The who owns the ground question has been covered in reply numerous times (I know I've replied elsewhere two or three times to the same question)   The rest is new, and without confirmation from the man in charge we won't know what it means to the ground and timescales.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: dubai camel on August 12, 2015, 03:53:39 PM
Funding not in place?  :bunny

Good job it is Mr Newton in charge or there would be an onslaught of abusive comments coming forth .....

The plan as I understood it in the beginning, was to subsidise the club until the ground and the rest of the development was completed then take the money and hand over the club to the 'community'.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: beefpilgrim on August 18, 2015, 03:27:54 PM
Stadium Delay! Missed out on some funding.

http://www.bostontarget.co.uk/Stadium-work-begin-2016-missing-pound-2m-funding/story-27629368-detail/story.html
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 18, 2015, 03:58:23 PM
Not exactly surprising news, but still disappointing.

"The club is bankrupt basically, it's got no money, no assets."

And that's the most important (and sobering) quote from that story: a candid assessment of the club's stature none of us really want to hear. If Newton manages to pull this off it will be a impressive achievement by any measure, but obviously with such a massive funding gap, and with all manner of unknowns and potential pitfalls that can derail a project of this scale, I won't sleep easy until the last brick is in place, the last lick of paint has been, er, licked, and John Blackwell's shiny new ticket office is open for business.

And as for that missing £2m, if only we had a supporter who had recently won a fecking gigantic Euromillions rollover jackpot... COUGH COUGH...!
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: father Ted on August 18, 2015, 04:15:40 PM
 Oh ..You can't insult the monied on here PB !
    I would have thought at a couple of 2yr contracts for key newbies would have been in order for starters ..
                 50 m is a lot of millions ,as much as Ann Robinsons worth !
            I expect the party elluded / alluded to is living abroad by now .. I know I would be .
                                   f T
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Deeping Pilgrim on August 18, 2015, 04:41:56 PM
I'd imagine that Sue Bell and some of the other NIMBY's are rubbing their hands together at that news.  Thank God we have an astute business man like David Newton in charge and not some of the other clowns like we had in the past.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: father Ted on August 18, 2015, 04:55:13 PM
 I think the only way way the New Ground (N/G for short ? ) is viable is part of the (largish) infrastructure project Newton has planned  .
    It may still happen .but where will the hugely improved (and constant , year on year ! )  income streams come from to make it pay ?
        Otherwise BUFC may possibly go the way of  old Dartford ..R&D  .. Kettering  .. Scarboro  .. Darlington  etc . .
       Then maybe BUFC  soccer fans will have to bite the bullet ,and slowly skulk along to Tatershall Rd ..
                  (Newton owns that ground ? and could gradually invest there on a smaller scale )
             Just maybe ..  Boston only needs one  'pro' football club .
     
                                fT

                   
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Bostonshire on August 18, 2015, 05:20:48 PM
From Newton himself.

          2 of the grants we have applied for we will not be getting leaving a funding gap of a few million but he is positive that this funding will be in place in time for the mass roadworks towards the end of this year to start

I may have jumped the gun with this as i didnt realise the info hadnt been released yet.... Slap wrist time
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Tash on August 18, 2015, 08:56:38 PM
Wait ......wait for it!
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Lee Newell on August 19, 2015, 07:43:00 AM
As Dave says it was never going to be easy.

Let's all keep supporting him, because if he doesn't do it well there is no other option.

Time is ticking though to get a stadium built before York Street lease expires!
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 19, 2015, 09:56:44 AM
When does the lease expire again?

Wonder what the landowners have planned for the site? Some dismal new build apartments or something, probably.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on August 19, 2015, 10:00:17 AM
When does the lease expire again?

Wonder what the landowners have planned for the site? Some dismal new build apartments or something, probably.

isn't there a caveart that the new ground must be up before redevelopment starts?
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Lee Newell on August 19, 2015, 12:07:57 PM
When does the lease expire again?

2018
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Shauneyg on August 19, 2015, 07:05:21 PM
The way I read the article was that the new stadium development is moving forward nicely and will start early next year, the gap in funding would mean building the sports centre etc as phase 2 not actually prevent the ground being built? I'm confident Newton and co will secure the extra funding needed.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 19, 2015, 10:25:17 PM
The way I read the article was that the new stadium development is moving forward nicely and will start early next year, the gap in funding would mean building the sports centre etc as phase 2 not actually prevent the ground being built? I'm confident Newton and co will secure the extra funding needed.

Seems like it - from the article:

"But if we can't get final £1.5m in, we might have to start building the stadium while the rest would come as part of the 'phase two', but that's the last thing we want to do. We want to deliver the whole thing."
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: oxo on August 23, 2015, 12:39:09 PM
Yet again the NLP in their piece today have got things wrong, this is not the first time they have written about BUFC without researching properly. They state the new ground is to be built alongside the A16 at Wymeswold  south of the Lincolnshire Port ( I think Wymeswold is some 50 miles away near Leicester ).  It also states that York Street was sold to developer Chestnut Homes in July and the lease to play their runs out in 2018. The article finishes by saying Mick Vines chairman of Boston Town has invited a ground share if the stadium is delayed. I really hope the club take the NLP to task over this ( not the Boston Town bit ) as it is not the first time they have written about BUFC  and got their facts wrong, or is there something we don't know about ? 
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: Lee Newell on August 23, 2015, 01:09:59 PM
Would Boston Town's ground be passed as good enough for our league?
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on August 23, 2015, 02:41:45 PM
I wonder if our Lotto-winning supporter has any thoughts when hearing of the funding gap? The amount we're short seems quite small fry compared with £53 million.
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: green hats mate on August 23, 2015, 04:27:43 PM
Would Boston Town's ground be passed as good enough for our league?

Not as it stands ,  not enough turnstiles to start with .
Title: Re: The new ground.
Post by: leicester pilgrim on August 23, 2015, 04:53:10 PM
They state the new ground is to be built alongside the A16 at Wymeswold  south of the Lincolnshire Port ( I think Wymeswold is some 50 miles away near Leicester ).

It is indeed near Leicester. A move to Wymeswold would cut down my travel time to home games. Most famous thing about Wymeswold is that it stages the Glastonbudget music festival every summer - the residents there will therefore be familiar with large crowds and the smell of hot dogs.

http://www.glastonbudget.org/