Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Shoddys Lane on February 14, 2014, 07:49:13 PM
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http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news/local/boston-united-manager-sentenced-for-6-000-plus-benefit-fraud-1-5878820
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Already posted under Dennis
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Mine was posted 30 secs earlier. Do keep up.
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Yeah but Dennis is not as long winded as your title, no offence meant.
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That's the headline in the Standard.That's what people will read, whereas they wouldn't look twice at a headline saying "Dennis". Sounds like you don't want the general public to know.
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I wonder if Dennis declared the impending case on his cv to David?
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knowing what the club is like I bet they don't ask such questions.....don't ask, can't tell etc :bunny
One thing for sure is that it could not come at a worse time with Dave trying to get his very ambitious property development plan underway.
Let's just hope he's not claiming housing benefit too! :dan
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knowing what the club is like I bet they don't ask such questions.....don't ask, can't tell etc :bunny
One thing for sure is that it could not come at a worse time with Dave trying to get his very ambitious property development plan underway.
Let's just hope he's not claiming housing benefit too! :dan
What impact does it have on Dave,s ambitious property development ?
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knowing what the club is like I bet they don't ask such questions.....don't ask, can't tell etc :bunny
One thing for sure is that it could not come at a worse time with Dave trying to get his very ambitious property development plan underway.
Let's just hope he's not claiming housing benefit too! :dan
It won't make any difference to the proposed development and I have no doubt the plans will be passed by BBC.
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Well, it must be a huge embarrassment for the club and for Dave Newton (whiter than white quote?) and even more so given the very badly tarnished reputation of the last regime, not to mention physical attacks on supporters by some of the former Tartan Taliban.
If I were a councillor hoping to get re-elected I would not want anything to do with the business. If anything matters in business at all it is TRUST and REPUTATION :-*.
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Well, it must be a huge embarrassment for the club and for Dave Newton (whiter than white quote?) and even more so given the very badly tarnished reputation of the last regime, not to mention physical attacks on supporters by some of the former Tartan Taliban.
If I were a councillor hoping to get re-elected I would not want anything to do with the business. If anything matters in business at all it is TRUST and REPUTATION :-*.
TRUST AND REPUTATION is almost non-existant in any level of football SP sadly nothing the fans can do about it .
Lets all turn to politics and banking .
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Not sure if it's an embarrassment for the club, ( though am sure opposition fans won't be letting the issue drop that's for sure, especially those behind any of the dugouts, so just for that, I suppose it could be) but for DN personally, unquestionably it is. In most workplaces immediate dismissal would normally follow a 'Gross misconduct' transgression. I am pleasantly surprised by the lack of criticism aimed in DG's direction, though especially when remembering the grief splashed given to the previous managers whose only 'crime' was to not deliver results'
Drury in particular who for reasons I never understood , couldn't, among other things, even shake off the numerous 'Evans' comparisons and references which coupled with everything else aimed his way were at times both personal and in truth quite vile. It suggests does it not that are if not fully behind DG supporters are more than happy to have him stay on despite this conviction. But I do wonder though if that would change if we were 5th from bottom as opposed to 5th from top ;D
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if we were near the bottom then there would be a large number of people calling for him to be sacked.I may well be one of them. If we were struggling it would make Newtons decision easier aswell but we are not in that position so that quashes that. Drury did not deserve the amount or type of abuse he got but he did deserve to lose his job because he lost the changing room and the players did not want to play for him.
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Sorry Sp but I thought that what really matters in business is to spend as little as possible to make as much as possible, isn't that what accountants are for.
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The most important thing in any business, certainly those wanting to be commercially successful is to make money. END OF!
Is trust important, obviously, in fact arguably the hardest thing of all to acquire, but whilst your opinions are as valid as any, surely even you must admit, you do argue in one direction and that's straight ahead. There are other factors that you just chose to ignore....or worse, cant see my friend
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Has anyone heard of Gerald Ratner? Hugely successful business flogging bling and then he effectively lost all his customers by actually telling them they were buying rubbish.
No business can survive without customers/fans. Although it seems some Boston United fans have an interesting set of moral values - presumably the same fans that supported the fat Scotsman and his gravy train of ne'erdowells and ready to condone other types of criminal behaviour.
The worst about this is that benefit fraud is very hard to detect (unless you get grassed up). People do it because they think they can get away with it and it effects everyone else who really do need state benefits and welfare. Community club? - my bottom! :bunny
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652 members/lets just say only 400 of them go to games. X3 = 1200.
Theres only 3 sours on here so far and a couple of them dont go to games leaving just the 1 in the 400.
So my maths makes that ave of 3 in the pos 1200.
3 x 12 = 36... I drink that on a sat in the bar ill just bring a friend no hardship
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Has anyone heard of Gerald Ratner? Hugely successful business flogging bling and then he effectively lost all his customers by actually telling them they were buying rubbish.
No business can survive without customers/fans. Although it seems some Boston United fans have an interesting set of moral values - presumably the same fans that supported the fat Scotsman and his gravy train of ne'erdowells and ready to condone other types of criminal behaviour.
The worst about this is that benefit fraud is very hard to detect (unless you get grassed up). People do it because they think they can get away with it and it effects everyone else who really do need state benefits and welfare. Community club? - my bottom! :bunny
I am looking to buy a new TV and was considering going to Oldrids because they offer a 5 year guarantee.
But with the tirade of abuse your bringing to this website - I will now go elsewhere - I believe John Lewis also offer 5 year guarantees.
As you suggest no business can survive without customers - well you have driven one away from your family business.
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I dont shop at Oldrids, but it aint nowt to do with SP. I just cant afford to shop there.
I Enjoy SP comments as it takes my mind of the problems around the world. After all in SP eyes his Problem with BUFC is such a massive thing it has to come first.
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Has anyone heard of Gerald Ratner? Hugely successful business flogging bling and then he effectively lost all his customers by actually telling them they were buying rubbish.
No business can survive without customers/fans. Although it seems some Boston United fans have an interesting set of moral values - presumably the same fans that supported the fat Scotsman and his gravy train of ne'erdowells and ready to condone other types of criminal behaviour.
The worst about this is that benefit fraud is very hard to detect (unless you get grassed up). People do it because they think they can get away with it and it effects everyone else who really do need state benefits and welfare. Community club? - my bottom! :bunny
You are correct SP benifit fraud is hard to detect , but lets be clear , tax fraud is far more difficult to detect . Watch your plumber or electrician when you pay then in cash ;) , and don,t forget those tax havens .
£9 BILLION UNCOLLECTED tax outstanting at the moment .
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Good point GHM .. How many on here have done a cash in hand job??
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If you wish to debate what affects our economy most, and even accepting that Social security fraud is already huge please feel free to do so. What DG did was totally wrong and I assume DN will make an imminent decision over his future, but to berate his crime in such a blinkered fashion not only does you no service at all, it clearly suggests the agenda and that of your fellow aide de camps is far from that you you want us to believe.
Why not instead concentrate your moans about the £25 billion the government have waste on poor procurement and outsourcing for example, is that not more criminal? You talk about benefits, maybe you have a view on the £5 billion, respective governments have given 'in benefits' to those earning £100,000 pa, is that not more scandalous? What about the £20.3 billion cost to the economy of public sector fraud, think very carefully on that one, put that one in just for you. What about the £4 billion lost to the tax payers from RBS following the sale of Norther Rock. Is that not obscene. How many of the bankers actually went to prison, in fact ever went to court, You tell us what is worse. Would you think that someone who pays £22 for light bulbs that ordinarily cost 65p is guilty of fraud? Well that's what someone at the Ministry of defence actually did. Perhaps you think its not criminal and no fraud was committed when someone at the Scottish government could sign a £1.5 million contract for taxis for their civil servants in Edinburgh- despite ordering their staff to take buses. Am sure there is nothing remotely dodgy about any of these is there, and no doubt none have built up the remotest anger in the SP household, but Jesus, DG cons £6,000 and the walls of Jericho are about to tumble down.
Come on get real, he was wrong, he got caught and yes, could yet get fired. Worse I thought he actually did his, case and credibility more damage with his comments in today's Standard, but to try and link it to the country's woes as you are just makes you sound so bitter and certainly ill informed.
By the way SP, do you agree, when so many in the country are currently suffering so badly that we should be donating £200 million to the Indian Space project? I bet you actually do ;D Most of us though, without making light of DG's behavour in the slightest would suggest that's a far bigger fraud
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If you wish to debate what affects our economy most, and even accepting that Social security fraud is already huge please feel free to do so. What DG did was totally wrong and I assume DN will make an imminent decision over his future, but to berate his crime in such a blinkered fashion not only does you no service at all, it clearly suggests the agenda and that of your fellow aide de camps is far from that you you want us to believe.
Why not instead concentrate your moans about the £25 billion the government have waste on poor procurement and outsourcing for example, is that not more criminal? You talk about benefits, maybe you have a view on the £5 billion, respective governments have given 'in benefits' to those earning £100,000 pa, is that not more scandalous? What about the £20.3 billion cost to the economy of public sector fraud, think very carefully on that one, put that one in just for you. What about the £4 billion lost to the tax payers from RBS following the sale of Norther Rock. Is that not obscene. How many of the bankers actually went to prison, in fact ever went to court, You tell us what is worse. Would you think that someone who pays £22 for light bulbs that ordinarily cost 65p is guilty of fraud? Well that's what someone at the Ministry of defence actually did. Perhaps you think its not criminal and no fraud was committed when someone at the Scottish government could sign a £1.5 million contract for taxis for their civil servants in Edinburgh- despite ordering their staff to take buses. Am sure there is nothing remotely dodgy about any of these is there, and no doubt none have built up the remotest anger in the SP household, but Jesus, DG cons £6,000 and the walls of Jericho are about to tumble down.
Come on get real, he was wrong, he got caught and yes, could yet get fired. Worse I thought he actually did his, case and credibility more damage with his comments in today's Standard, but to try and link it to the country's woes as you are just makes you sound so bitter and certainly ill informed.
By the way SP, do you agree, when so many in the country are currently suffering so badly that we should be donating £200 million to the Indian Space project? I bet you actually do ;D Most of us though, without making light of DG's behavour in the slightest would suggest that's a far bigger fraud
That a good start BG , a bit later on in the day when we get our thinking caps on I am sure the ordinary contributors on here will come up with other obsene examples of government waste and fiddling .
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I find it quite ironic that someone with scouse in their username seems to have quite a lot to say the topic of benefits.
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Publicity we could do without for sure.
DG getting more support than the Fatty McFraud, but both taking from the public purse ….
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Publicity we could do without for sure.
DG getting more support than the Fatty McFraud, but both taking from the public purse ….
Greenes appears to be on a much smaller scale and hopefully will have little effect on the club .
The vast difference is that Greene is commited to repaying the monies .
Macfraud & CO if it had not been for Chestnuts rescue would have killed the club .
How much did Mcfraud pay back to the tax man ?
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Greenes appears to be on a much smaller scale and hopefully will have little effect on the club .
The vast difference is that Greene is commited to repaying the monies .
Macfraud & CO if it had not been for Chestnuts rescue would have killed the club .
How much did Mcfraud pay back to the tax man ?
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Of course McFraud's crime was on a larger scale and intent was there from the very start, but interesting to see how people will ignore/forgive when is suits….
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Greenes appears to be on a much smaller scale and hopefully will have little effect on the club .
The vast difference is that Greene is commited to repaying the monies .
Macfraud & CO if it had not been for Chestnuts rescue would have killed the club .
How much did Mcfraud pay back to the tax man ?
Of course McFraud's crime was on a larger scale and intent was there from the very start, but interesting to see how people will ignore/forgive when is suits….
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It was leaving the club on the brink of folding that fans hold against Evans , it would have been nice for taxpayers if he had made a repayment .
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Publicity we could do without for sure.
DG getting more support than the Fatty McFraud, but both taking from the public purse ….
Greenes appears to be on a much smaller scale and hopefully will have little effect on the club .
The vast difference is that Greene is commited to repaying the monies .
Macfraud & CO if it had not been for Chestnuts rescue would have killed the club .
How much did Mcfraud pay back to the tax man ?
But the judge said that fatty mcfraud did not personally benefit from any of his wrongdoing unlike Mr Greene. And who knows if Mr Greene had not been dobbed in he might still be claiming? It is easy to feel remorse when you've been caught and fear losing your job. :'(
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Publicity we could do without for sure.
DG getting more support than the Fatty McFraud, but both taking from the public purse ….
Greenes appears to be on a much smaller scale and hopefully will have little effect on the club .
The vast difference is that Greene is commited to repaying the monies .
Macfraud & CO if it had not been for Chestnuts rescue would have killed the club .
How much did Mcfraud pay back to the tax man ?
But the judge said that fatty mcfraud did not personally benefit from any of his wrongdoing unlike Mr Greene. And who knows if Mr Greene had not been dobbed in he might still be claiming? It is easy to feel remorse when you've been caught and fear losing your job. :'(
Yes I am sure the rest of us like you and the judge believe Mcfraud made no benifit from his wrongdoings ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Not knowing Greenes personal circumstances I can only guess he may well have not had contacts to recieve the right advice .
I would think managing St Neots could easily be compounded into 16 hours a week , and many could advice him that 16hrs a week in the right circumstances can be legally a very attractive job , (ever heard the expression "can,t afford to work full time ") . His part-time wage could be supplemented by legal benifits depending on circumstances of maybe a £200 a week , paid by the tax payer.
Instead of being branded a fraudster he would be hailed by the government in statistics as a worker in the same bracket as those working full time on minimum wage who are less well off in net income .
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Publicity we could do without for sure.
DG getting more support than the Fatty McFraud, but both taking from the public purse ….
Greenes appears to be on a much smaller scale and hopefully will have little effect on the club .
The vast difference is that Greene is commited to repaying the monies .
Macfraud & CO if it had not been for Chestnuts rescue would have killed the club .
How much did Mcfraud pay back to the tax man ?
But the judge said that fatty mcfraud did not personally benefit from any of his wrongdoing unlike Mr Greene. And who knows if Mr Greene had not been dobbed in he might still be claiming? It is easy to feel remorse when you've been caught and fear losing your job. :'(
Yes, "Who knows?". Basing your opinion on something you do not know anymore facts than the rest of us.
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I am looking to buy a new TV and was considering going to Oldrids because they offer a 5 year guarantee.
But with the tirade of abuse your bringing to this website - I will now go elsewhere - I believe John Lewis also offer 5 year guarantees.
As you suggest no business can survive without customers - well you have driven one away from your family business.
Very silly person. Under your statutory rights as a consumer your tv should last and work perfectly for a lot longer than 5 years. You do not need to have a 5 year guarantee (and yet you will pay for it in the price of the TV). You are already guaranteed under the law. No go and do some research. :bunny
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Publicity we could do without for sure.
DG getting more support than the Fatty McFraud, but both taking from the public purse ….
Greenes appears to be on a much smaller scale and hopefully will have little effect on the club .
The vast difference is that Greene is commited to repaying the monies .
Macfraud & CO if it had not been for Chestnuts rescue would have killed the club .
How much did Mcfraud pay back to the tax man ?
But the judge said that fatty mcfraud did not personally benefit from any of his wrongdoing unlike Mr Greene. And who knows if Mr Greene had not been dobbed in he might still be claiming? It is easy to feel remorse when you've been caught and fear losing your job. :'(
Yes, "Who knows?". Basing your opinion on something you do not know anymore facts than the rest of us.
It's a question not an opinion. Read it more carefully next time stupid boy! :-*
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No one cares what your opinion is scouse pilgrim!!! The club have made a statement so we move on...
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Publicity we could do without for sure.
DG getting more support than the Fatty McFraud, but both taking from the public purse ….
Greenes appears to be on a much smaller scale and hopefully will have little effect on the club .
The vast difference is that Greene is commited to repaying the monies .
Macfraud & CO if it had not been for Chestnuts rescue would have killed the club .
How much did Mcfraud pay back to the tax man ?
But the judge said that fatty mcfraud did not personally benefit from any of his wrongdoing unlike Mr Greene. And who knows if Mr Greene had not been dobbed in he might still be claiming? It is easy to feel remorse when you've been caught and fear losing your job. :'(
Yes, "Who knows?". Basing your opinion on something you do not know anymore facts than the rest of us.
It's a question not an opinion. Read it more carefully next time stupid boy! :-*
Why not keep your questions to yourself? Maybe send yourself an email so someone interested in your words can read them!
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Well you must be interested or else you wouldn't have read his posts. ::)
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I'd rather his posts were not on the forum.
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I am looking to buy a new TV and was considering going to Oldrids because they offer a 5 year guarantee.
But with the tirade of abuse your bringing to this website - I will now go elsewhere - I believe John Lewis also offer 5 year guarantees.
As you suggest no business can survive without customers - well you have driven one away from your family business.
Very silly person. Under your statutory rights as a consumer your tv should last and work perfectly for a lot longer than 5 years. You do not need to have a 5 year guarantee (and yet you will pay for it in the price of the TV). You are already guaranteed under the law. No go and do some research. :bunny
I always research and although the Sale of Goods Act 1979 gives you up to 6 years to claim for faulty goods it isn't as clear cut as it suggests and I would have thought you of all people would have known that.
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I am looking to buy a new TV and was considering going to Oldrids because they offer a 5 year guarantee.
But with the tirade of abuse your bringing to this website - I will now go elsewhere - I believe John Lewis also offer 5 year guarantees.
As you suggest no business can survive without customers - well you have driven one away from your family business.
Very silly person. Under your statutory rights as a consumer your tv should last and work perfectly for a lot longer than 5 years. You do not need to have a 5 year guarantee (and yet you will pay for it in the price of the TV). You are already guaranteed under the law. No go and do some research. :bunny
I always research and although the Sale of Goods Act 1979 gives you up to 6 years to claim for faulty goods it isn't as clear cut as it suggests and I would have thought you of all people would have known that.
Fully agree Artemis ,making a claim on many items it is very complex . eg has the appliance been subject to fair wear and tear ? , if you wash grannies draws on a regular basis that rules out claims on your washer , iron and clothes dryer . Like Artemis I would have thought Mark would have known this .