Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Poros on June 27, 2010, 03:57:40 PM
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Oh dear.
John Terry bully against lesser opposition. No idea, can't play footbal against good opposition.
Where the hell is Garry Nevill. Even the most M.U. hater must want him there.
Upson? No expierience, where is Wes Bown loads of it.
Mat Dawson good footballer. What we need FOOTBALLERS.
DISCUSS :
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England have consistantly played poorly all throughout this tournament. They have shown their true "talent" and let us all down. Unfortunately when our game is dominated by foreign suprstars, the real English talent goes unnoticed. The F.A have to continue to support developing young home grown talent if we are to hold our own against the best footballing countries. We've shown just how poor we are at this world cup at our own game. A real pitty, but you have to bite the bullet and say we're just not good enough at present.
Can't wait to see some proper football played at York Street.
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Blame ourselves. We more than any nation in Europe (or the world for that matter) are prepared to keep paying for extortionate season ticket prices and Sky TV subscriptions. This in turn makes the Clubs 'rich' and we then get all the foreigners over. It's simple.
DL
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I wouldnt say we are a bad side, we eased through the qualification rounds untroubled, its just the players couldnt live up to the hype and expectation, and looked burnt out.
We can beat anyone on our day, its just our day doesnt happen in world cups.
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Oh dear.
John Terry bully against lesser opposition. No idea, can't play footbal against good opposition.
Where the hell is Garry Nevill. Even the most M.U. hater must want him there.
Upson? No expierience, where is Wes Bown loads of it.
Mat Dawson good footballer. What we need FOOTBALLERS.
DISCUSS :
Man U fan alert, i think you have seriously overestimated Neville and Browns talent there mate.
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Neville should have gone, IMO. After Johnson, who is the best English right back?
Carragher? Laughable.
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There's more wrong at Premiership level than just foreign players.The whole lot are overpaid and over-hyped.When it all comes down to it,ask any fan of a premiership club which they would prefer,the national team successful,or their club successful,we all know which they would choose.I just thank God we'll soon be back at York Street for some proper footy.
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Baines, Jagielka and Carragher can all play RB and thy are all miles better than Gary Neville.
Actually Phil Neville would be better at RB and he's a midfielder.
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If that is the best that Capello can do, then he should pack his bags and jump on the first flight back to Italy. But the trouble is he won't, because like all the England players, he's on too much of a good thing in terms of his pay and conditions.
There's no doubt we have some good players. The role of the coach is then to mould those individuals into a team. Capello failed on that front.
If things are going wrong, the role of the coach is then to make changes to tactics and formations and to introduce substitutes wisely. Everyone in the country knows Steven Gerrard's best position - everyone except Mr Capello. And when we're losing to the Germans and need goals we take off prolific Jermaine Defoe and replace him with Emile Heskey! Why? Capello failed on that front too.
I'll finish this post with a word that hopefully Mr Capello will understand: Arrivederci!
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Where the hell is Garry Nevill.
So far up Fergies arse he wouldn't here the call from Fabio, not wanted.
Wes Brown
Like most of the players we took, not good enough.
Here is where good managers earn their corn. Lets see which players make the 23 for the Euro qualifiers. I think a few players will have been found out and may not waltz into the national setup next time.
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http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/england-specials/next-permanent-manager (http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/england-specials/next-permanent-manager)
David Beckham at 50-1 seems good odds.
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Gary Neville?!!?! Every time he played for Man U last season, he looked like a fan who had won a competition to get a game.
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Please may I take this opportunity to officially retire myself from contention for the next England squad and international football generally? I appreciate this will come as a disappointment to some, but age catches up with us all, plus I want to dedicate more time to my family. Thank you.
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Please may I take this opportunity to officially retire myself from contention for the next England squad? I appreciate this will come as a disappoint to some, but age catches up with us all, plus I want to dedicate more time to my family. Thank you.
that's a real shame Porl, you had so much more to offer. As one last favour can you take terry, heskey, both coles and barry with you?
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Baines, Jagielka and Carragher can all play RB and thy are all miles better than Gary Neville.
Actually Phil Neville would be better at RB and he's a midfielder.
So playing players out of position will get us further than we did in this World Cup? Baines is a left back, Jagielka a centre back, as is Carragher.
It'd be like playing Gerrard as a winger....
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Baines, Jagielka and Carragher can all play RB and thy are all miles better than Gary Neville.
Actually Phil Neville would be better at RB and he's a midfielder.
So playing players out of position will get us further than we did in this World Cup? Baines is a left back, Jagielka a centre back, as is Carragher.
It'd be like playing Gerrard as a winger....
already tried that one, worked a treat : :-X
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Please may I take this opportunity to officially retire myself from contention for the next England squad? I appreciate this will come as a disappoint to some, but age catches up with us all, plus I want to dedicate more time to my family. Thank you.
that's a real shame Porl, you had so much more to offer. As one last favour can you take terry, heskey, both coles and barry with you?
Much as it pains us cos he is an irritating human being, but Ashley Cole is our only World Class player and should be 1st on the teamsheet
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Absolute rubbish performance. I think we were having similar problems in the camp to France but the players have been frightened into keeping quiet. Fabio stuck with Heskey, Why? He persisted with Rooney and after the first 3 games Rooney in my opinion had certainly not earned his place in the 4th game. He played individuals in unusual positions. I think he was saying "I'm the boss and you will play the way I say and if you don't like it you can stuff it". He was unflexible and was playing for a 10million pound pay off, not for an England success.
Did you notice how when the Germans attacked they had lots of empty grass around them and yet when England went forward they had nowhere to go, were crowded out by Huns.
On a final note, if Fabio really believes we played well then he should be certified and put in a straight jacket.
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It's simple - the players just aren't good enough. They only look good for their clubs as they have great players around them (which aren't English). It's alright scoring goals when you're up against Titas Bramble and keeping clean sheets when you're marking Cameron Jerome but on this stage the quality is a little different!
As soon as the squad was announced there were going to be problems. He picked the same players that have never won anything on the World Stage. Players like Adam Johnson should have gone and we shouldn't have filled the squad with players who are past it like Carragher and as for G Nev - please.
Looking at the future - we are struggling if Milner is our star youngster - he is nothing but a work horse and as we have seen that doesn't win you anything!
Can't wait to see some quality over YS this coming season!
BU on the UP!!
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James Milner was the only played in the squad who made a decent cross, and not just for Defoe's goal.
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Wow he put the ball into an area and the striker done the rest
Against the USA he was shown up by a 30 year old right back, got booked and was reeled in after 30 mins
He looked massively out of his depth against the Germans and was once again subbed. Compare him to their youngsters Muller and Ozil who showed class
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To be fair to Milner he was ill against the USA and it showed. He played well against Slovenia and no worse than the other overpaid players.
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haha - he wasn't ill that was an excuse. England don't play players in the World Cup that are ill. Boston wouldn't even do that
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We,ve all got to live in the real world like B U on the up . Silly arguing about who should be in or out the team none of them are good enough . Even the "expert" pundits on BBC pre-match told us only two of the Germans would get in our side , Failed to tell us after the match which NINE Germans not good enough for England . Heads in the sand I
think its called.
The only way we can win the World Cup is if it is awarded on the players capacity for booze and sex. Inflated ego,s and inflated wages , taking the punters (ticket purchasers and TV subscribers) to the cleaners.
Ask ourselves what would this team playing together every week in Prem League achieve .? It would not give any headaches to the top 3 / 4 team managers.
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We,ve all got to live in the real world like B U on the up . Silly arguing about who should be in or out the team none of them are good enough . Even the "expert" pundits on BBC pre-match told us only two of the Germans would get in our side , Failed to tell us after the match which NINE Germans not good enough for England . Heads in the sand I
think its called.
The only way we can win the World Cup is if it is awarded on the players capacity for booze and sex. Inflated ego,s and inflated wages , taking the punters (ticket purchasers and TV subscribers) to the cleaners.
Ask ourselves what would this team playing together every week in Prem League achieve .? It would not give any headaches to the top 3 / 4 team managers.
They wouldn't even give BUFC or Town a decent game.