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Title: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: kingofnaves on April 28, 2010, 10:11:25 PM
A disgrace!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2950302/Rapist-is-let-out-to-work-as-binman.html
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: PilgrimsOnTheUp on April 29, 2010, 12:02:53 AM
Total disgrace shouldnt even be allowed out of the prison let alone to be allowed to come up and down are street with total freedom?.....who is paying for his coffee breaks at costa? That will be us then!
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: Stumpy on April 29, 2010, 06:29:04 AM
Just goes to show what a justice system we have got when life means six years with a nice little earner included as a bonus.

It beggars belief what is in store if "hug an hoody" gets in power.
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: green hats mate on April 29, 2010, 08:52:13 AM
Absolute disgrace . Apart from making local females feeling insecure it is also deprieving a honest local person of a job.  Anyway why should this chap be deprieved of  the joys of prison such as Sky Sports , etc  etc etc .
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: cappo on April 29, 2010, 12:23:42 PM
the justice system is a joke how can any body be given a life sentence for a violent crime such as rape and be amongst honest people on the streets after his mamby pamby time in prison.tell you one thing though if he has any sense at all he will be watching his back.
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: Ferret on April 29, 2010, 01:18:34 PM
the justice system is a joke how can any body be given a life sentence for a violent crime such as rape and be amongst honest people on the streets after his mamby pamby time in prison.tell you one thing though if he has any sense at all he will be watching his back.

Do you think inciting a violent crime should also not receive a namby pamby jail sentence?
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: Fairfax on April 29, 2010, 01:57:51 PM
It appears to me that we have a legal point here. The guy was sentenced to serve a minimum of six years. You may wish to debate whether that was a correct sentence for the crime, but that was the court's decision. Once he had served that part of his sentence, he was eligible for review. We are now a further four years on and he is not yet on parole, but is serving more time in an open prison. They are rehabilitating him in the way that the system is designed. It is to be assumed that he will be on the sex offenders register and will therefore be monitored for the foreeable future. If you do not agree with this route back into the community, then you must suggest an alternative. As I have said, you may not agree with the original sentence, but that's the way it is.
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: kingofnaves on April 29, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Was told this morning his career on the bins is over!
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: Bartmac on April 29, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
You mean he's bin dumped! ;D
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on April 29, 2010, 03:47:39 PM
Media always jump on the individual but as mentioned its the system which is at work not a one off. 

Interesting that if he or any other individual put in jail would then presumably get told by hacks at the Sun et al that they should be out doing manual labour not sat watching Jeremy Kyle.....
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: Shoddys Lane on April 29, 2010, 04:11:37 PM
Can't believe that people still read the Sun and other such comics.
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: kingofnaves on April 29, 2010, 04:42:08 PM
Not bothered buying The Sun for several weeks now.
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: cappo on April 29, 2010, 11:05:22 PM
the justice system is a joke how can any body be given a life sentence for a violent crime such as rape and be amongst honest people on the streets after his mamby pamby time in prison.tell you one thing though if he has any sense at all he will be watching his back.

Do you think inciting a violent crime should also not receive a namby pamby jail sentence?
ooops didnt really mean it to sound as drastic as that.still think min of 6 years is mamby pamby,just my opinion
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: Rocking Rev on April 30, 2010, 12:01:28 PM
I am relieved that the latest postings have been more balanced on such a sensitive subject. I would not wish to detract from the severity of this man's crime nor the long-term effects on the victim and her family. The scars will remain forever but...............the justice system will include both punitive and rehabilitation. It is important that crime is punished but at the same time an offender is provided with opportunity to be rehabilitated into society after a period of incarceration.

The Sun, with its right-wing philosophy, would have and encourages society to embrace its right-wing views with a 'lock 'em up and throw the key away' mentality. The need is to discover why it is that certain crimes are committed and having identified the reasons for those issues to be addressed. The prisoner in question is now deemed to be a Minimum Security prisoner with society not at risk. Very careful considerations are given before releasing prisoners into the community with various professionals involved in the decision-making process.

North Sea Camp is a Minimum Security Prison where very great care is taken in ensuring that both the community is protected and the individual prisoner is provided with the opportunity to get his life back on track and make a full return to society where he can make a valuable contribution to the community.
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: green hats mate on April 30, 2010, 01:03:47 PM
Sadly as many of us have found to our cost this system has brought great saddness and pain to many on their release R R.  Many are habitual offenders and have no intention of altering their way of life.
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: Rocking Rev on April 30, 2010, 01:44:17 PM
I sense some personal pain here that cannot be minimised,nor would I wish it to be, but at the end of the day it is essential that we provide offenders with the opportunity to turn around their lives following the completion of their sentences and to return to society remorseful of their actions.
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: kingofnaves on April 30, 2010, 02:02:44 PM
RR the best thing is to send them to Australia ;D
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: Rocking Rev on April 30, 2010, 02:16:29 PM
Very good.................we have enough out here already!

I read recently that the UK has 85000 incarcerated in UK Prisons. In Western Australia we have around 4500.
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: John C on April 30, 2010, 03:43:13 PM
Off topic from this topic but I once played as a a ringer in a five a side team with Robin Perrie (who wrote the Sun article). Must be the same one as there can't be two journalists called that. Anyway he was by miles the best player in the pitch, set me up with about ten goals in three games (the other teams were rubbish to be fair...)
Title: Re: Warning to Boston Public-The Sun Today O/T
Post by: green hats mate on April 30, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
Thats the point RR very few have any remorse .