Adam, which department of the governments pro immigration propaganda machine are you working for, anybody can throw statistics out till their blue in the face, doesn't alter the fact that we have serious problems in our town. Now you've probably not experienced your relations being mugged as their walking home, a work colleague being knifed for his mobile phone, my wife being harassed as she's walking through town, my son nearly being knocked down by one of the countless eastern european drink drivers, I could go on but it will probably sail straight over your head. Strange thing is i've only encountered these incidents since the invasion of our town, hey maybe i've been unlucky and only come across the "1%"? that give them all a bad name. Best wishes to your'e mum in law bob, hope they catch the bastard, its probably the 1% that I and many others keep coming across.
Statistics are otherwise known as 'facts', usually a pretty decent basis for any argument. Not working for any government department, just choosing to look at these things with some perspective as opposed to trying to reach some consensus based on who's had what done to them. People are always going to emphasise what 'foreigners' did because it's a hot topic, the things that happened to Shoddys Lanes' relative are less likely to be mentioned. I wouldn't doubt that immigrants have higher crime rates than the overall population - simply because the proportion of them who are young and male tends to be very high and that is the group most likely to offend regardless of nationality. Obviously my sympathies to anyone who's suffered crime, but I've always made it pretty obvious that I've been talking about immigration overall.
Adam from your response it appears you have access to figures . why not answer my question on costs of traslators and benifits sent abroard .? Also tell us how many pensioners are moving in and drawing their pensions over here.
Enlighten us to what benifits we whould be entitled to if we moved over to eastern europe .
Also what have you to say to the hard working locals on here who have had their wages drasticly reduced by the labour market being flooded by immigrants.?
I don't have any special access to figures, I just read the report of some very well qualified economists who do research into this area! However, the percentage of Eastern European migrants of pensionable age moving here is tiny, and even then completely irrelevant as they're not entitled to - any hence won't receive - any state pension unless they've been making NI contributions for a significant portion of their live. If we moved to Eastern Europe? I'd guess at very few. Just like how Eastern European migrants are entitled to very little until they've made inward contributions. Why are you raising this - do you really think these studies would just happen to have 'forgotten' about pensions and benefits?!
The effects on the labour market are minimal either way. Given that landwork is inevitably minimum wage, 'hard working locals' will not have had their wages lowered. Unemployment amongst the lowest skilled locals may be likely to increase to some extent but this is offset by the overall gains of a more efficient workforce. There were clearly gaps in the labour supply around here, as vacancies is one of the major determinants as to where migrants moved.
Thankyou Steviemas, but I think Master Hildred is more having a pop at me, he tends to,silly boy.
Don't see where I've had a pop at you at all. Just putting some truths out about the topic you raised.