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Title: Hereford
Post by: BostonGoals on April 27, 2019, 09:24:59 PM
I must admit I feared the worst ahead of this, long away trip with a decimated squad, many of them I thought would be on the proverbial beach.

But was pleased with the attitude and application shown, we got a bit lucky with the first goal but defended well, with Willis having a good game in particular. Doubt the Hereford manager will be there next season given some of the chants in his direction.

Anyway enjoy the summer folks
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Champs next year on April 27, 2019, 10:52:26 PM
Glad we've ended season with a good away win. Just looking at the Conference table & no northern clubs in the relegation places. How will it pan out then for places in our league 4 next season?
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: joshb on April 27, 2019, 11:00:39 PM
Southern teams get transferred
Gloucester most likely for one

Good performance today. Rode our luck at times but were very clinical up top.  Bit like watching the alty away performance albeit Willis having to make 2 very good saves this afternoon.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Burgh Boy on April 28, 2019, 08:12:58 AM
A good end to a poor season that promised so much and yet ended finishing in the bottom half of the table.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: The Third Twin on April 28, 2019, 08:31:41 AM
Glad we've ended season with a good away win. Just looking at the Conference table & no northern clubs in the relegation places. How will it pan out then for places in our league 4 next season?
looking at who may get moved across to us from the south, Oxford city were deemed northern 3 or 4 seasons ago, I remember them stuffing Dennis Greens team 7-2 at York Street one night. However, geographically further north are St Albans, Hemel and Braintree, so my guess would be 2 of those moving over.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: SMELLS LIKE VICTORY on April 28, 2019, 10:01:22 AM
A good end to a poor season that promised so much and yet ended finishing in the bottom half of the table.
Splitting hairs, maybe; but we finished 11th- top half, just.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 28, 2019, 01:03:23 PM
A good end to a poor season that promised so much and yet ended finishing in the bottom half of the table.

Is Maths not your strongpoint? 11th out of 22 is top half.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on April 28, 2019, 01:44:20 PM
A good end to a poor season that promised so much and yet ended finishing in the bottom half of the table.

Is Maths not your strongpoint? 11th out of 22 is top half.

Is tact and diplomacy not your strong point P86? Also spelling, I think you'll find strong and point are two separate words.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Champs next year on April 28, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
Glad we've ended season with a good away win. Just looking at the Conference table & no northern clubs in the relegation places. How will it pan out then for places in our league 4 next season?
looking at who may get moved across to us from the south, Oxford city were deemed northern 3 or 4 seasons ago, I remember them stuffing Dennis Greens team 7-2 at York Street one night. However, geographically further north are St Albans, Hemel and Braintree, so my guess would be 2 of those moving over.

Yes that could happen. We had Bishops Stortford not that long ago & as U say Oxford City. Really fancied South Sields to win the northern Prem. I see they are in play offs. They have major investment going on & can see them in our league next season. It's ifs &  buts at mo, but re us: As much as I like CE, he has much to improve on! Personally, I believe if he was to deliver it would have been this season. Enough has been said on here re: 50 signings etc. For me his judgement on players is at best questionable. However importantly in the entire season the only performances noteworthy were on the road. Sincerely hope I'm wrong but cannot see a major points return from home games next season either. Don't entirely understand this issue, but unless he has a clear out & gets some leaders on the park, I see it being sadly similar next season.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 28, 2019, 04:31:58 PM
A good end to a poor season that promised so much and yet ended finishing in the bottom half of the table.

Is Maths not your strongpoint? 11th out of 22 is top half.

Is tact and diplomacy not your strong point P86? Also spelling, I think you'll find strong and point are two separate words.

You might want to check that!

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/strongpoint
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: The Third Twin on April 28, 2019, 07:31:25 PM
Glad we've ended season with a good away win. Just looking at the Conference table & no northern clubs in the relegation places. How will it pan out then for places in our league 4 next season?
looking at who may get moved across to us from the south, Oxford city were deemed northern 3 or 4 seasons ago, I remember them stuffing Dennis Greens team 7-2 at York Street one night. However, geographically further north are St Albans, Hemel and Braintree, so my guess would be 2 of those moving over.

Yes that could happen. We had Bishops Stortford not that long ago & as U say Oxford City. Really fancied South Sields to win the northern Prem. I see they are in play offs. They have major investment going on & can see them in our league next season. It's ifs &  buts at mo, but re us: As much as I like CE, he has much to improve on! Personally, I believe if he was to deliver it would have been this season. Enough has been said on here re: 50 signings etc. For me his judgement on players is at best questionable. However importantly in the entire season the only performances noteworthy were on the road. Sincerely hope I'm wrong but cannot see a major points return from home games next season either. Don't entirely understand this issue, but unless he has a clear out & gets some leaders on the park, I see it being sadly similar next season.
I share some of your fears regarding CE and his players judgement, and I've often asked myself is it because it's CE himself who's failed to make the jump from Shaw Lane's level, and as successful as he was there with many of the players we've seen him sign, some players and managers just don't ever make the next step up. Everybody has their level, and I wonder whether the issue is that Shaw Lane was his? And I too thought this season was his opportunity and time to deliver. CE talked often late in the season about it being a massive learning curve, well much as I think managers deserve time, they also need to learn.....
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Ernie100 on April 29, 2019, 09:22:19 AM
Glad we've ended season with a good away win. Just looking at the Conference table & no northern clubs in the relegation places. How will it pan out then for places in our league 4 next season?
looking at who may get moved across to us from the south, Oxford city were deemed northern 3 or 4 seasons ago, I remember them stuffing Dennis Greens team 7-2 at York Street one night. However, geographically further north are St Albans, Hemel and Braintree, so my guess would be 2 of those moving over.

Yes that could happen. We had Bishops Stortford not that long ago & as U say Oxford City. Really fancied South Sields to win the northern Prem. I see they are in play offs. They have major investment going on & can see them in our league next season. It's ifs &  buts at mo, but re us: As much as I like CE, he has much to improve on! Personally, I believe if he was to deliver it would have been this season. Enough has been said on here re: 50 signings etc. For me his judgement on players is at best questionable. However importantly in the entire season the only performances noteworthy were on the road. Sincerely hope I'm wrong but cannot see a major points return from home games next season either. Don't entirely understand this issue, but unless he has a clear out & gets some leaders on the park, I see it being sadly similar next season.
I share some of your fears regarding CE and his players judgement, and I've often asked myself is it because it's CE himself who's failed to make the jump from Shaw Lane's level, and as successful as he was there with many of the players we've seen him sign, some players and managers just don't ever make the next step up. Everybody has their level, and I wonder whether the issue is that Shaw Lane was his? And I too thought this season was his opportunity and time to deliver. CE talked often late in the season about it being a massive learning curve, well much as I think managers deserve time, they also need to learn.....

But they also have to be given the time to learn, sometimes it takes a bit longer to learn all you need to know about any job, and nobody will ever be "Perfect".
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Burgh Boy on April 29, 2019, 10:10:27 AM
A good end to a poor season that promised so much and yet ended finishing in the bottom half of the table.

Is Maths not your strongpoint? 11th out of 22 is top half.

Is tact and diplomacy not your strong point P86? Also spelling, I think you'll find strong and point are two separate words.

You might want to check that!

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/strongpoint

My apologies Scotty - as usual you are correct with both my mathematical error (I had miscounted the number of teams in the League) and definately "strongpoint" is a word. Glad to set the record straight  - we are a top half-side! What would this website be without your knowledge? See you next season.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Old boy thin on April 29, 2019, 12:41:55 PM
We have finished on a positive with back to back victories and a depleted team.
Those players deserve credit if not for the whole season, but just for the last two games.
Many teams would not have bothered knowing that they are safe and having nothing to play for.
Credit to them for at least giving us something to smile about.
We will just have to wait and see what happens over the summer and also who gets shown the door.
Have a good summer everyone and stay safe, see you all again at pre season.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: brummie exile 1960 on April 29, 2019, 01:21:49 PM
Now that the dust has settled...we got 2 points less than last season and were 4 points further away from the play-offs. Those 2 facts show we didn't move forward. On the plus side, 31 points from our away matches is very good. Number one acquisition this summer , IMO, is a creative midfielder. As always, a reliable goalscorer would also be more than welcome. I think the defence is the least of our worries.
As for next season, welcome Farsley Celtic! I had no idea where Farsley was and so had to look it up. It is a district in the west end of Leeds. Also we renew rivalries with Kettering. The third spot for promoted teams is interesting. It could be any one of EIGHT teams ranging from South Shields in the North to Stratford-on-Avon in the South. I couldn't guess what the Conference bigwigs will do about the non-existent relegated clubs from the National Conference. Prepare to be surprised!
Time to sign off now till August. Enjoy the summer.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Champs next year on April 29, 2019, 01:38:50 PM
Glad we've ended season with a good away win. Just looking at the Conference table & no northern clubs in the relegation places. How will it pan out then for places in our league 4 next season?
looking at who may get moved across to us from the south, Oxford city were deemed northern 3 or 4 seasons ago, I remember them stuffing Dennis Greens team 7-2 at York Street one night. However, geographically further north are St Albans, Hemel and Braintree, so my guess would be 2 of those moving over.

Yes that could happen. We had Bishops Stortford not that long ago & as U say Oxford City. Really fancied South Sields to win the northern Prem. I see they are in play offs. They have major investment going on & can see them in our league next season. It's ifs &  buts at mo, but re us: As much as I like CE, he has much to improve on! Personally, I believe if he was to deliver it would have been this season. Enough has been said on here re: 50 signings etc. For me his judgement on players is at best questionable. However importantly in the entire season the only performances noteworthy were on the road. Sincerely hope I'm wrong but cannot see a major points return from home games next season either. Don't entirely understand this issue, but unless he has a clear out & gets some leaders on the park, I see it being sadly similar next season.
I share some of your fears regarding CE and his players judgement, and I've often asked myself is it because it's CE himself who's failed to make the jump from Shaw Lane's level, and as successful as he was there with many of the players we've seen him sign, some players and managers just don't ever make the next step up. Everybody has their level, and I wonder whether the issue is that Shaw Lane was his? And I too thought this season was his opportunity and time to deliver. CE talked often late in the season about it being a massive learning curve, well much as I think managers deserve time, they also need to learn.....

But they also have to be given the time to learn, sometimes it takes a bit longer to learn all you need to know about any job, and nobody will ever be "Perfect".

That's true. Craigs honest, he's young, & he's regularly said he's learned a lot this season. It's all about next season now & I wish him all the best to get it sorted. Don't think he's one for bailing out & he wants to give us a successfull side. Have a good summer everybody.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Old boy thin on April 29, 2019, 01:44:45 PM
We could also be facing Kings Lynn next season if they get promotion through the playoffs, which would mean Mr Marriott could be playing against us.
Kettering and Kings Lynn in our league now wouldn't that be something to look forward too.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on April 29, 2019, 02:20:52 PM
Super play offs this year at the level below us. King's Lynn have to win their game on Wednesday night, then the final at the weekend and then play the NPL play offs winner the following weekend. Don't envy that route. Adam Marriott. His sister is officiating the women's fa cup final this year.

TEP
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Old boy thin on April 29, 2019, 03:05:20 PM
Super play offs this year at the level below us. King's Lynn have to win their game on Wednesday night, then the final at the weekend and then play the NPL play offs winner the following weekend. Don't envy that route. Adam Marriott. His sister is officiating the women's fa cup final this year.

TEP
Bloody hell that is a  hard task and route.
I didn't realise that was his sister, you are a wealth of knowledge  TEP.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Ernie100 on April 29, 2019, 03:18:36 PM
Super play offs this year at the level below us. King's Lynn have to win their game on Wednesday night, then the final at the weekend and then play the NPL play offs winner the following weekend. Don't envy that route. Adam Marriott. His sister is officiating the women's fa cup final this year.

TEP
Bloody hell that is a  hard task and route.
I didn't realise that was his sister, you are a wealth of knowledge  TEP.

So is Google - other search engines are available. :D
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 29, 2019, 04:28:17 PM
It's all due to the introduction of an extra division at the level below us, where they had to get 6 promotions from 4 divisions.

However, next season, there will only be 2 go down from our league, as there will be 24 teams for 2020/21.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on April 29, 2019, 10:54:35 PM
King's Lynn's play off match against Stratford on Wednesday has now been postponed due to Stratford potentially having played someone they shouldn't have.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: southender on April 29, 2019, 10:56:07 PM
Well am I glad this season is over? You bet I am. Having supported the Pilgrims for over 50 years I have never wanted the season to finish as much as this season and that includes when we were relegated from the Football League. This season has been utter garbage, I am not one who thought we would win the league nor that we have a divine right to get into the play offs. But I do expect we should be entertained at York Street and for the most part of this season we have not.

I was very much in favour of Craig's appointment last season and impressed by the entertainment we witnessed in the second half of the season. I was not disappointed that we didn't reach the play offs as I thought it may have been too soon. I was disappointed we were unable to keep the spine of that team (probably due to money?) but felt we should not overstretch ourselves financially - we have been there before. I was not carried away by the "star" signings in the close season as I questioned their recent record but fully supported them being moved on quickly as I thought they were a disruptive influence on the team.

But after that I have become increasingly annoyed by what I have seen at home matches. Such as before signing Allott and Smith hoofing the ball up to a non existent target man for a full game - and it wasn't working so for Gods sake change it.  The ball kept coming back to put pressure on a shaky defence and ultimately goals were conceded and games lost - easily. I may not have managed a team, nor won a league title, but even I could work out it wasn't working.

Turning over nearly 50 players in a season will not bring success. Craig, you may like tinkering with your team but such a large turnover of players will not bring consistency or team spirit. I doubt whether the teams who finished in the play offs fielded anything like the number we did.


What happened to Thanoj and Abbott? From being as good as any midfield pairing in the league last season both players suffered alarming dips in form this season. Why? Are the players not up to it or too big for their boots or is it down to the manager/tactics? Whichever why are they signed for next season? Because I am left thinking we will get more of the same next season.


After the defeat by Altrincham earlier in the year I left the game wondering why I had bothered coming to the game. Not because we had lost or to a late goal. But we had been soundly beaten, anything less would have been an injustice to Altrincham. The games against Telford, Stockport and Chorley did not show an improvement to me, just how far adrift we were from having a play off team. Craig said we were not good enough for the play offs in March most supporters knew that in October.


For the last 12 years I have sponsored the team to say thank you to the Chestnuts for saving my club, to do my little bit. Next season I won't and I feel very guilty about that, disloyal to them. But I will not reward a manager (and team) who have given so little this season for him to waste during the close season. I may be wrong, I hope I am. If he changes the way the team plays to produce more entertaining football (and I do not mean winning) or indeed leaves I will sponsor the team again.


What I have said may upset some supporters but that is how I have felt this season (but pleased for our away support who have been rewarded with most of our better performances). And yes I will watch them again next season but may not attend as many games if this season's level of entertainment continues.


Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on April 29, 2019, 11:30:43 PM
It's what you some times get when a manager goes up a level and is on a steep learning curve. You potentially get through a lot of players, experiment a fair bit and lose quite a few games. Unfortunately  many of those have been at home this season.

We all want to entertained but Clubs go through phases and we always have to hope that next year will be our year. We may win every game 1-0 and the tactics may be really boring.

It could have been worse. We could have been relegated and be looking for yet another manager.....'the one'

TEP
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: noughtyforties on April 30, 2019, 10:26:22 AM
Well am I glad this season is over? You bet I am. Having supported the Pilgrims for over 50 years I have never wanted the season to finish as much as this season and that includes when we were relegated from the Football League. This season has been utter garbage, I am not one who thought we would win the league nor that we have a divine right to get into the play offs. But I do expect we should be entertained at York Street and for the most part of this season we have not.

I was very much in favour of Craig's appointment last season and impressed by the entertainment we witnessed in the second half of the season. I was not disappointed that we didn't reach the play offs as I thought it may have been too soon. I was disappointed we were unable to keep the spine of that team (probably due to money?) but felt we should not overstretch ourselves financially - we have been there before. I was not carried away by the "star" signings in the close season as I questioned their recent record but fully supported them being moved on quickly as I thought they were a disruptive influence on the team.

But after that I have become increasingly annoyed by what I have seen at home matches. Such as before signing Allott and Smith hoofing the ball up to a non existent target man for a full game - and it wasn't working so for Gods sake change it.  The ball kept coming back to put pressure on a shaky defence and ultimately goals were conceded and games lost - easily. I may not have managed a team, nor won a league title, but even I could work out it wasn't working.

Turning over nearly 50 players in a season will not bring success. Craig, you may like tinkering with your team but such a large turnover of players will not bring consistency or team spirit. I doubt whether the teams who finished in the play offs fielded anything like the number we did.


What happened to Thanoj and Abbott? From being as good as any midfield pairing in the league last season both players suffered alarming dips in form this season. Why? Are the players not up to it or too big for their boots or is it down to the manager/tactics? Whichever why are they signed for next season? Because I am left thinking we will get more of the same next season.


After the defeat by Altrincham earlier in the year I left the game wondering why I had bothered coming to the game. Not because we had lost or to a late goal. But we had been soundly beaten, anything less would have been an injustice to Altrincham. The games against Telford, Stockport and Chorley did not show an improvement to me, just how far adrift we were from having a play off team. Craig said we were not good enough for the play offs in March most supporters knew that in October.


For the last 12 years I have sponsored the team to say thank you to the Chestnuts for saving my club, to do my little bit. Next season I won't and I feel very guilty about that, disloyal to them. But I will not reward a manager (and team) who have given so little this season for him to waste during the close season. I may be wrong, I hope I am. If he changes the way the team plays to produce more entertaining football (and I do not mean winning) or indeed leaves I will sponsor the team again.


What I have said may upset some supporters but that is how I have felt this season (but pleased for our away support who have been rewarded with most of our better performances). And yes I will watch them again next season but may not attend as many games if this season's level of entertainment continues.

Bang on, I've renewed today but only on the basis that its the last season at the best ground outside the football league and its been my second home for 42 years. Once we move to Legoland that will almost certainly be it for me, in my mind BUFC belong in Boston, not in Wyberton at the back of a field on the edge of town. My contempt and loathing for what Evans did to this club to necessitate this move knows no end, its matched only by my anger at the 'fans' who welcomed him back like some sort of hero and then disappeared never to return after he declared 'season over' after a pitiful surrender to Lincoln.

The debt owed to DN and his company is immeasurable. Sadly subsequent manager and players have continued to let us all down to the point we're now seen as a middling club in a league below our natural level.   
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on April 30, 2019, 12:58:55 PM
Nothing we can do if the landlords want to sell.

And as much as we love it, YS is no longer fit for purpose. It's an obsolete 70s design, expensive to maintain, and earns us pitiful levels of non-matchday income.

I highly doubt the York Street site is big enough to accomodate a new stadium that complies with the Green Guide even if we owned the site and had money in the bank to build it.

I agree the Wyberton site is a bit too out of town for my liking, but it's preferable to the Boardsides proposal and I can't think of any suitable sites closer to the town.

Is what it is.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Cavalier on April 30, 2019, 01:17:44 PM
Nothing we can do if the landlords want to sell.

And as much as we love it, YS is no longer fit for purpose. It's an obsolete 70s design, expensive to maintain, and earns us pitiful levels of non-matchday income.

I highly doubt the York Street site is big enough to accomodate a new stadium that complies with the Green Guide even if we owned the site and had money in the bank to build it.

I agree the Wyberton site is a bit too out of town for my liking, but it's preferable to the Boardsides proposal and I can't think of any suitable sites closer to the town.

Is what it is.

I would be interested to know if anyone can suggest where BUFC could have been relocated that is preferable to the chosen site.  Moving to the new stadium is not a reason to stop being a supporter.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 30, 2019, 04:49:25 PM
The closest clear/farming areas that would be suitable are near Toot Lane, at the back of Co Op on Eastwood Road, the other side of the Crem or Wyberton West Road...
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on April 30, 2019, 07:23:42 PM
It's almost unbelievable that someone will stop going to support the Club because they are moving just outside of the town. It's not easy keeping our fans happy !
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Eddie Killick on April 30, 2019, 08:20:39 PM
In spite of all the ups and downs this season, we ended up only 7 points off the play-offs. The phrase "if only" applies to some of those matches we should have won but didn`t.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Old boy thin on April 30, 2019, 08:22:37 PM
Well am I glad this season is over? You bet I am. Having supported the Pilgrims for over 50 years I have never wanted the season to finish as much as this season and that includes when we were relegated from the Football League. This season has been utter garbage, I am not one who thought we would win the league nor that we have a divine right to get into the play offs. But I do expect we should be entertained at York Street and for the most part of this season we have not.

I was very much in favour of Craig's appointment last season and impressed by the entertainment we witnessed in the second half of the season. I was not disappointed that we didn't reach the play offs as I thought it may have been too soon. I was disappointed we were unable to keep the spine of that team (probably due to money?) but felt we should not overstretch ourselves financially - we have been there before. I was not carried away by the "star" signings in the close season as I questioned their recent record but fully supported them being moved on quickly as I thought they were a disruptive influence on the team.

But after that I have become increasingly annoyed by what I have seen at home matches. Such as before signing Allott and Smith hoofing the ball up to a non existent target man for a full game - and it wasn't working so for Gods sake change it.  The ball kept coming back to put pressure on a shaky defence and ultimately goals were conceded and games lost - easily. I may not have managed a team, nor won a league title, but even I could work out it wasn't working.

Turning over nearly 50 players in a season will not bring success. Craig, you may like tinkering with your team but such a large turnover of players will not bring consistency or team spirit. I doubt whether the teams who finished in the play offs fielded anything like the number we did.


What happened to Thanoj and Abbott? From being as good as any midfield pairing in the league last season both players suffered alarming dips in form this season. Why? Are the players not up to it or too big for their boots or is it down to the manager/tactics? Whichever why are they signed for next season? Because I am left thinking we will get more of the same next season.


After the defeat by Altrincham earlier in the year I left the game wondering why I had bothered coming to the game. Not because we had lost or to a late goal. But we had been soundly beaten, anything less would have been an injustice to Altrincham. The games against Telford, Stockport and Chorley did not show an improvement to me, just how far adrift we were from having a play off team. Craig said we were not good enough for the play offs in March most supporters knew that in October.


For the last 12 years I have sponsored the team to say thank you to the Chestnuts for saving my club, to do my little bit. Next season I won't and I feel very guilty about that, disloyal to them. But I will not reward a manager (and team) who have given so little this season for him to waste during the close season. I may be wrong, I hope I am. If he changes the way the team plays to produce more entertaining football (and I do not mean winning) or indeed leaves I will sponsor the team again.


What I have said may upset some supporters but that is how I have felt this season (but pleased for our away support who have been rewarded with most of our better performances). And yes I will watch them again next season but may not attend as many games if this season's level of entertainment continues.

Bang on, I've renewed today but only on the basis that its the last season at the best ground outside the football league and its been my second home for 42 years. Once we move to Legoland that will almost certainly be it for me, in my mind BUFC belong in Boston, not in Wyberton at the back of a field on the edge of town. My contempt and loathing for what Evans did to this club to necessitate this move knows no end, its matched only by my anger at the 'fans' who welcomed him back like some sort of hero and then disappeared never to return after he declared 'season over' after a pitiful surrender to Lincoln.

The debt owed to DN and his company is immeasurable. Sadly subsequent manager and players have continued to let us all down to the point we're now seen as a middling club in a league below our natural level.
Unbelievable comment, the reasons for moving will ensure the club remains solvent and can progress on and off the field.
That will never happen at our current home, life moves on and does with or without you, your choice not to follow the club to it's new home, it's a shame you feel that way.
 But on the other hand it gives us a chance to draw a line under and put the past of corruption and wrong doing to bed forever.
This will be a new start for us all and l for one can't wait for it to happen, l love York Street with all my heart and will have a few tears on the day l walk out of the ground for the last time.
I follow Boston united, were ever when ever and if that means to a new home, so be it.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: oxo on April 30, 2019, 10:16:55 PM
Well said mate.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Wyberton pilgrim on April 30, 2019, 11:12:31 PM
I have supported BUFC since 1946/7 and hope and pray I will still be well enough to see them in the new stadium. Win loose or draw I will keep supporting for as long as I am able.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on May 01, 2019, 08:09:17 AM
The closest clear/farming areas that would be suitable are near Toot Lane, at the back of Co Op on Eastwood Road, the other side of the Crem or Wyberton West Road...

Looking at the map, it's definitely closer but the road access isn't good enough there. The new stadium is served by a main trunk road, as Boardsides would have been. Gloucester (or Leamington - I forget which!) have had a hell of a time trying to overcome objections from their local police for similar access reasons. Plus with the existing residential estates, no way would a stadium ever be granted planning permission in that location.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on May 01, 2019, 10:05:30 AM
The closest clear/farming areas that would be suitable are near Toot Lane, at the back of Co Op on Eastwood Road, the other side of the Crem or Wyberton West Road...

Looking at the map, it's definitely closer but the road access isn't good enough there. The new stadium is served by a main trunk road, as Boardsides would have been. Gloucester (or Leamington - I forget which!) have had a hell of a time trying to overcome objections from their local police for similar access reasons. Plus with the existing residential estates, no way would a stadium ever be granted planning permission in that location.

Absolutely, I wasn't saying those sites should have been used - but they are the closest areas to the town centre that have enough space for a stadium.

I believe DN's feasibility study for locations included Boardsides (land not commercially available) and Kirton Distribution Park (near the Sports Bike Shop - too far from Boston).
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: howmanynames2pick on May 01, 2019, 10:40:23 AM
Nothing we can do if the landlords want to sell.

And as much as we love it, YS is no longer fit for purpose. It's an obsolete 70s design, expensive to maintain, and earns us pitiful levels of non-matchday income.

I highly doubt the York Street site is big enough to accomodate a new stadium that complies with the Green Guide even if we owned the site and had money in the bank to build it.

I agree the Wyberton site is a bit too out of town for my liking, but it's preferable to the Boardsides proposal and I can't think of any suitable sites closer to the town.

Is what it is.
sad but true Pete
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Lee Newell on May 01, 2019, 10:49:59 AM
The new stadium is only 2.5 miles from york street, really not that far. Hopefully there will be good buses on match days from town centre.

However it's very rare a new stadium gets built in town centre these days and out of town is far more practical. It appeared that DN spent a lot of time planning options for a location for the new ground, so I think we can be happy that the best overall location was selected. I think we also need to bare in mind that the new stadium is being partly funded by the other developments at the Quadrant, another reason why this location was the most feasible, without the enabling developments there wouldn't be the funds for the stadium.

Usually when a club moves stadium it's to something bigger and better. The capacity of the new stadium is slightly lower than York Street, however we don't really need bigger. In all the time I've been going to York Street the only matches when the stadiums was close to/at capacity were the friendlies and Man Utd and Liverpool, League Cup game against Fulham, First Match in Football league against Bournemouth, Matches against Lincoln in Football League, match v Nuneaton when tickets were free after being called off at half time on new years day in 2002. Not been close to full since we got relegated.  So we don't need a bigger ground. York Street is known as being one of the best non league grounds with good character, let's hope the new ground has a bit of character of it's own and doesn't feel like a downgrade.

What we must remember though is staying at York Street isn't viable, it's simply not affordable due to lack of income/rent, we don't own it and owners want to sell it so they could if they wanted to have kicked us out before now and left us homeless. The new ground should see us being more financial stable and have a club for the long term and hopefully soon playing at the level above.

Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on May 01, 2019, 12:09:00 PM
The new stadium is only 2.5 miles from york street, really not that far. Hopefully there will be good buses on match days from town centre.

However it's very rare a new stadium gets built in town centre these days and out of town is far more practical. It appeared that DN spent a lot of time planning options for a location for the new ground, so I think we can be happy that the best overall location was selected. I think we also need to bare in mind that the new stadium is being partly funded by the other developments at the Quadrant, another reason why this location was the most feasible, without the enabling developments there wouldn't be the funds for the stadium.

Usually when a club moves stadium it's to something bigger and better. The capacity of the new stadium is slightly lower than York Street, however we don't really need bigger. In all the time I've been going to York Street the only matches when the stadiums was close to/at capacity were the friendlies and Man Utd and Liverpool, League Cup game against Fulham, First Match in Football league against Bournemouth, Matches against Lincoln in Football League, match v Nuneaton when tickets were free after being called off at half time on new years day in 2002. Not been close to full since we got relegated.  So we don't need a bigger ground. York Street is known as being one of the best non league grounds with good character, let's hope the new ground has a bit of character of it's own and doesn't feel like a downgrade.

What we must remember though is staying at York Street isn't viable, it's simply not affordable due to lack of income/rent, we don't own it and owners want to sell it so they could if they wanted to have kicked us out before now and left us homeless. The new ground should see us being more financial stable and have a club for the long term and hopefully soon playing at the level above.

Very rare for new stadiums in the UK to be built in urban centres. It happens a lot more in the USA, but their towns/cities are laid out very differently in blocks, far more spread out, and you'll find available brownfield land quite close to the downtown areas. Not so here. I really don't think Boston Utd could have found a better location without expending millions more on demolition and land costs. Anyway, as the decades pass, Boston will expand outwards and future generations of fans won't feel it's as "out-of-town" as we do today. The City Ground was once on the outskirts of Nottingham, along with Trent Bridge!
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: howmanynames2pick on May 01, 2019, 12:51:58 PM
The new stadium is only 2.5 miles from york street, really not that far. Hopefully there will be good buses on match days from town centre.

However it's very rare a new stadium gets built in town centre these days and out of town is far more practical. It appeared that DN spent a lot of time planning options for a location for the new ground, so I think we can be happy that the best overall location was selected. I think we also need to bare in mind that the new stadium is being partly funded by the other developments at the Quadrant, another reason why this location was the most feasible, without the enabling developments there wouldn't be the funds for the stadium.

Usually when a club moves stadium it's to something bigger and better. The capacity of the new stadium is slightly lower than York Street, however we don't really need bigger. In all the time I've been going to York Street the only matches when the stadiums was close to/at capacity were the friendlies and Man Utd and Liverpool, League Cup game against Fulham, First Match in Football league against Bournemouth, Matches against Lincoln in Football League, match v Nuneaton when tickets were free after being called off at half time on new years day in 2002. Not been close to full since we got relegated.  So we don't need a bigger ground. York Street is known as being one of the best non league grounds with good character, let's hope the new ground has a bit of character of it's own and doesn't feel like a downgrade.

What we must remember though is staying at York Street isn't viable, it's simply not affordable due to lack of income/rent, we don't own it and owners want to sell it so they could if they wanted to have kicked us out before now and left us homeless. The new ground should see us being more financial stable and have a club for the long term and hopefully soon playing at the level above.

Very rare for new stadiums in the UK to be built in urban centres. It happens a lot more in the USA, but their towns/cities are laid out very differently in blocks, far more spread out, and you'll find available brownfield land quite close to the downtown areas. Not so here. I really don't think Boston Utd could have found a better location without expending millions more on demolition and land costs. Anyway, as the decades pass, Boston will expand outwards and future generations of fans won't feel it's as "out-of-town" as we do today. The City Ground was once on the outskirts of Nottingham, along with Trent Bridge!
true again Pete... you are on a roll :)
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Kirtonian on May 01, 2019, 01:13:26 PM
Strange thing that Forest's City Ground is in West Bridgford and Notts County's ground is in the City. Sad to see County struggling but it is not that long ago BUFC played them in the League.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Lee Newell on May 01, 2019, 01:21:14 PM
In spite of all the ups and downs this season, we ended up only 7 points off the play-offs. The phrase "if only" applies to some of those matches we should have won but didn`t.

Had we had a top strike (like we have Miller/Southwell in prevous seasons that made playoffs) that scored 25+ might have been enough to close the gap.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on May 01, 2019, 01:35:27 PM
Strange thing that Forest's City Ground is in West Bridgford and Notts County's ground is in the City. Sad to see County struggling but it is not that long ago BUFC played them in the League.

WBA's ground also forms part of the boundary between Birmingham and West Bromwich (on the West Bromwich side). The fence going down the east side car park is the boundary!

The new stadium for BUFC is literally only yards inside Wyberton.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on May 01, 2019, 01:46:30 PM
Strange thing that Forest's City Ground is in West Bridgford and Notts County's ground is in the City. Sad to see County struggling but it is not that long ago BUFC played them in the League.

It's not THAT long since we played Bournemouth as equals! Crazy.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: howmanynames2pick on May 01, 2019, 09:08:18 PM
Strange thing that Forest's City Ground is in West Bridgford and Notts County's ground is in the City. Sad to see County struggling but it is not that long ago BUFC played them in the League.

It's not THAT long since we played Bournemouth as equals! Crazy.
and they scored our first league goal if memory serves me right
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Pilgrim86 on May 02, 2019, 09:38:43 AM
Strange thing that Forest's City Ground is in West Bridgford and Notts County's ground is in the City. Sad to see County struggling but it is not that long ago BUFC played them in the League.

It's not THAT long since we played Bournemouth as equals! Crazy.
and they scored our first league goal if memory serves me right

Neil Young, went on to manage Chester against us a few seasons ago.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on May 02, 2019, 10:47:10 AM
Strange thing that Forest's City Ground is in West Bridgford and Notts County's ground is in the City. Sad to see County struggling but it is not that long ago BUFC played them in the League.

It's not THAT long since we played Bournemouth as equals! Crazy.
and they scored our first league goal if memory serves me right

Neil Young, went on to manage Chester against us a few seasons ago.

He's got a heart of gold

TEP
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: chris b on May 02, 2019, 12:09:10 PM
Strange thing that Forest's City Ground is in West Bridgford and Notts County's ground is in the City. Sad to see County struggling but it is not that long ago BUFC played them in the League.

It's not THAT long since we played Bournemouth as equals! Crazy.
and they scored our first league goal if memory serves me right

Neil Young, went on to manage Chester against us a few seasons ago.

I'm pretty sure that the Bournemouth Neil Young and the Chester Neil Young are two different people.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Ernie100 on May 02, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
Strange thing that Forest's City Ground is in West Bridgford and Notts County's ground is in the City. Sad to see County struggling but it is not that long ago BUFC played them in the League.

It's not THAT long since we played Bournemouth as equals! Crazy.
and they scored our first league goal if memory serves me right

Neil Young, went on to manage Chester against us a few seasons ago.

I'm pretty sure that the Bournemouth Neil Young and the Chester Neil Young are two different people.

And neither of them are singers.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: John C on May 02, 2019, 07:28:02 PM
But I once got contributed a link to The Chain on the then Radio 2's Radcliffe and Maconie show (which links from one record to another) going from Boston's More than a Feeling to Neil Young's Cinnamon Girl by pointing out who scored our first goal in the football league....
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: Champs next year on May 02, 2019, 07:33:10 PM
In spite of all the ups and downs this season, we ended up only 7 points off the play-offs. The phrase "if only" applies to some of those matches we should have won but didn`t.

Had we had a top strike (like we have Miller/Southwell in prevous seasons that made playoffs) that scored 25+ might have been enough to close the gap.

Maybe we need a gaffer who can sign one of those goalscoring strikers. Don't hold your breath 2 long 4 CE 2 do that pre season!! I still maintain if he was equipped 2 do that it would have been this season. Major concern.
Title: Re: Hereford
Post by: dt woodhall on May 03, 2019, 12:31:42 PM
food for thought.

won 17 games of which 11 were against the bottom six teams.
only 4 victories against the 10 sides above us in the league
obviously only 6 victories against the rest of the league.

10 defeats at home. cant remember when that last happened.
but only 8 points off the play offs.
60 goals against us in the league.

sums up the league this year.

Vast improvement  needed all over the team for next year.

I am concerned that a lot of the current squad have been re-signed.