Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Bodge on March 05, 2019, 09:26:30 PM
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Need I say more
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Gonna fess up that I didn't go tonight despite season tickets for whole family. 1. Son has broken his leg so in pot and hard to manouevre; 2. so very demoralised after Saturday - just feel flat now about York St right now; 3. TBH losing faith a bit with this side and CE; 4. work in the morning. At least I feel I'm being honest with you all.
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Need I say more
Well you could say how pleased you were as you obviously persuaded quite a lot to follow your example and not attend tonight.
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But I was there you clever so and so. The internet thingy works on my phone. Trying to have a dig again at fellow fans oxo
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But I was there you clever so and so. The internet thingy works on my phone. Trying to have a dig again at fellow fans oxo
Oh I am sorry I thought you had said that after Saturday you wouldn't be attending again, If you didn't say that then I do truly apologise.
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But I was there you clever so and so. The internet thingy works on my phone. Trying to have a dig again at fellow fans oxo
Oh I am sorry I thought you had said that after Saturday you wouldn't be attending again, If you didn't say that then I do truly apologise.
Just checked back and I was wrong you actually said that if we lost tonight then you and three more would not attend this season. Again I am sorry I clearly got it wrong but I hope you do give it another go the club needs your support, and no I am not having a dig at fellow fans.
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I went and enjoyed it, a good atmosphere and we gave it a go.
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Weirdly I enjoyed it more than most home games. Excellent atmosphere, why can we make it like that more often?
The team did their best but we weren't good enough
Rare to see a home crowd stay to clap them off after a loss like that at home, think everyone who went can't say we didn't put it all on the line last night
Chorley and Spennymoor will have a battle to outscored them in the remaining games....
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At least we now know that the capacity of our tiny away end is at least 263 and not 202 as previously stated!
Seemed plenty more room in there too at the front
Though I suspect bogs and catering were stretched......
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Good game. No shame in losing to Stockport. A season of learning for a rookie manager at this level. This is likely to mean we lose as many as we win and finish mid table. Those seeking instant gratification and more wins then I suggest you pick a TV team - preferably one near the top of the Premier League. I've actually been to watch Posh in five home games this season and failed to see them win. This stuff happens.
Lots of positives last night but we've not got quite enough quality to consistently challenge the top sides. There's no magic wand to fix that but there's also no shame in it either. Even after a four hour round trip from Norwich, I'm not disheartened - I just love going to live matches :)
TEP
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As already said Stockport were man for man better and stronger, and some of the players just couldnt step up to the plate, a couple I would say even hiding a little. That said Stockport are full time and a huge club and I think they could have stepped up a gear if needed. For me the difference was up top, they had great link up play and power. We have Gav, who holds it up well decent on the floor but thats it nothing around him to feed off him.
The key moment was when the ref, who i think is poor, didnt give a blatant foul and two seconds later they go 2 up. Enjoyed my night and game, I still think Craig will come good but I would like to see a bit more from the sidelines in terms of motivation.
Final point, away fans were great in the Coach and Horses , Sportsbar and generally vocal. But they manhandled two of the stewards, a couple on the pitch and one even grabbed a players ear as they were taking a corner, where were the police, underneath the control hub surelt the last place they should be.
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I didn't go last night as there were no trains back and only one coach ran, I listened to it on the radio and it sounded like you caused us all sorts of problems in the first half, we have an 18 man squad and they're all good players, we made 6 changes from the side that beat Spennymoor and I thought we'd got it wrong in the first half. Keep the faith lads and lasses, it will come good for you, after 6 years in this division I was beginning to think things would never change, maybe your new ground will be the catalyst, although I'll miss York St as it's a proper old school ground.
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I think a number of us appreciate it's not all about winning but it is about being entertained and home games this season have not delivered in the main. Not sure Craig is learning a lot or quickly enough. Time may run out for him.
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As already said Stockport were man for man better and stronger, and some of the players just couldnt step up to the plate, a couple I would say even hiding a little. That said Stockport are full time and a huge club and I think they could have stepped up a gear if needed. For me the difference was up top, they had great link up play and power. We have Gav, who holds it up well decent on the floor but thats it nothing around him to feed off him.
The key moment was when the ref, who i think is poor, didnt give a blatant foul and two seconds later they go 2 up. Enjoyed my night and game, I still think Craig will come good but I would like to see a bit more from the sidelines in terms of motivation.
Final point, away fans were great in the Coach and Horses , Sportsbar and generally vocal. But they manhandled two of the stewards, a couple on the pitch and one even grabbed a players ear as they were taking a corner, where were the police, underneath the control hub surelt the last place they should be.
Stockport fan in peace here, just want to say that while it's a common belief I've seen from fans in this league this year we are NOT a full time side. Our goalkeeper is a lorry driver, our top goalscorer a schoolteacher (which is why he missed our FA Trophy replay against Maidstone last week) for example. We train more nights a week this season than we used to but all the players who played last night will be at day jobs today.
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In that case fair play to JG as hes got some top players in there. I for one hope you win the league, been to away days at your place and always had a great time in pubs around the ground and had a right laugh with locals, and joined the little private members social club attached to ground, cost a quid.
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At least we now know that the capacity of our tiny away end is at least 263 and not 202 as previously stated!
Seemed plenty more room in there too at the front
Though I suspect bogs and catering were stretched......
I think there is (obvously!) room in there for more than 202, as that is the standing capacity and the wooden seats cannot be counted as they are... wooden. Next safety meeting might be interesting, as I thought our turnstiles are computer-synced and stop letting people in when capacity is reached (it was required when entering the FL).
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I think a number of us appreciate it's not all about winning but it is about being entertained and home games this season have not delivered in the main. Not sure Craig is learning a lot or quickly enough. Time may run out for him.
My thoughts exactly.
I think the one thing that will count against him is the shocking decline in attendances since the turn of the year, we're almost 400 regulars down going by last nights figures and I can't see another 1000+ gate this season. Once the crowds dip DN tends to start getting a bit twitchy with the trigger finger.
But 8 home league defeats in 17 games tells its own story, for the most part its been turgid, uninspiring, dreary fare, and at £15 a pop its only going to be the die hards and season ticket holders who are going to see out the last 4 games.........and I'm sorry to say if I didn't have a season ticket I'd have long since stopped attending games because I don't feel I'm being entertained sufficiently for my outlay.
Things have to change, three seasons of mediocrity have come home to roost, the club need to wake up to the fact the support isn't going to pay top end prices for more mid table no frills and no thrills football.
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I think a number of us appreciate it's not all about winning but it is about being entertained and home games this season have not delivered in the main. Not sure Craig is learning a lot or quickly enough. Time may run out for him.
My thoughts exactly.
I think the one thing that will count against him is the shocking decline in attendances since the turn of the year, we're almost 400 regulars down going by last nights figures and I can't see another 1000+ gate this season. Once the crowds dip DN tends to start getting a bit twitchy with the trigger finger.
But 8 home league defeats in 17 games tells its own story, for the most part its been turgid, uninspiring, dreary fare, and at £15 a pop its only going to be the die hards and season ticket holders who are going to see out the last 4 games.........and I'm sorry to say if I didn't have a season ticket I'd have long since stopped attending games because I don't feel I'm being entertained sufficiently for my outlay.
Things have to change, three seasons of mediocrity have come home to roost, the club need to wake up to the fact the support isn't going to pay top end prices for more mid table no frills and no thrills football.
Yours points are valid Andy but looking at attendances overall last night it begs the question is there a
demand for Tuesday night football in non-league ?.
NAT CON last night . attendances .
Barrow v Leyton O 1085
.Harrogate 785
Halifax v Barnet 1075.
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It's a good point GHM. Sad to say but as a pensioner (just) I'm happy to sit in my armchair with a can of beer and watch Champions League. The weather here in the Midlands was very unpleasant last night and I was more than happy to stay indoors. Saturdays are totally different however.
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In that case fair play to JG as hes got some top players in there. I for one hope you win the league, been to away days at your place and always had a great time in pubs around the ground and had a right laugh with locals, and joined the little private members social club attached to ground, cost a quid.
I'll go with that FC, I've been & enjoyed Stockport hospitality each season they've been in CN bar this one. Always been made welcome in pubs n clubs & ground etc. Actually had some great away days there, always remember Greenies last visit there when we drew 1:1 & it was a great game. In the pub after game all County fans were coming over & saying how well we played & we deserved to win: good honest fans. Yes with that Support they deserve the team they've got now & I hope they win the league. Fair play aswell if they can do it with a Part Time outfit; that debunks a few Full Time or no time theories on here!
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Boston's average gate this season is 1107 with 4 home games to go. Last season it was 1053 overall so currently attendances are slightly up though will probably end up about the same.
This time last year we played Harrogate in an evening game with an attendance of 875 , and the year before that , Chorley , in front of 807.
I'm sure we also had a gate of less than 600 for one midweek League game in recent years though I can't remember which one.
There are no missing fans this season. This is what we get as a mid table team in this League.
As with every team , if we were at the top of the table we would get alot more but there is no decline year on year based on our League position in mid table.
As with every season , as it drifts to a close with nothing much to play for , gates dip.
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Boston's average gate this season is 1107 with 4 home games to go. Last season it was 1053 overall so currently attendances are slightly up though will probably end up about the same.
This time last year we played Harrogate in an evening game with an attendance of 875 , and the year before that , Chorley , in front of 807.
I'm sure we also had a gate of less than 600 for one midweek League game in recent years though I can't remember which one.
There are no missing fans this season. This is what we get as a mid table team in this League.
As with every team , if we were at the top of the table we would get alot more but there is no decline year on year based on our League position in mid table.
As with every season , as it drifts to a close with nothing much to play for , gates dip.
We had 548 I think against Gloucester in 2013
Greenes first game. Won 4 nil in midweek
I can't see another 4 figure gate all season
Maybe the club needs to do an offer 4 games for 30 quid or something or have all ticket stubs from these 4 games and you get 10 percent of a season ticket next season
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I went and enjoyed it, a good atmosphere and we gave it a go.
Thought the first half was the best display of the season, both clubs playing football and no one going down writhing in agony to get free kicks. Both sides had chances and 0-0 at break was a fair reflection on play. Then Amy seemed to 'lose it' in the second half and boy did we suffer!
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Could not make it last night, but by what I heard I missed a good match. We seem to get Amy reffing us a lot and never get the rub of the green. I do not think she is up to it, I am not being sexist, I think the standard of referees in this league is very poor.
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We seem to get Amy reffing us a lot and never get the rub of the green.
We had won 5 of the 6 previous games she reffed us in, before last night.
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I have been thinking about how to sum up my feelings about the current situation and performance at the club.
I have only started watching again after many years away, so my opinion can only be based on that and also recent end of season league table positions.
The club and tram really do seem to have a feeling that it is standing still, l know we don't have the money and resources etc etc,
The lack of updates on the progress of funding for new stadium is worrying, have we got it or not,things have gone very quiet again.
I have myself asked the chairman how this moving on, and he does seem non committal on the subject.
Anticipation can be a useful and exciting tool, but it also brings with it, frustration,doubts,feat and anxiety.
Which sadly the latter seems to be affecting many of us, l think it's not rocket science to see that the new stadium and facilities is pivotal to the long term success and stability of our club.
This is just an opinion of a rambling old fella.
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Sorry for the bad spelling, predictive text and age combines to defeat me again.
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We seem to get Amy reffing us a lot and never get the rub of the green.
We had won 5 of the 6 previous games she reffed us in, before last night.
Its a fair point Pilgrim! I also remember the Stockport game at home in the last play off season when she gave an innocuous challenge on Pidge as a penalty; then when Dayle missed the first one, gave him another go at it as apparently the keeper moved 2 soon?
Let's be honest it's always dodgems & ghost trains; yes I no sometimes the dice can appear loaded. However if we blame referees for results, well we need to dig a bit deeper. 100% are honest & they do their best for 90 odd minutes.
Personally I think CE has found this level tough to negotiate. He did an amazing job to turn it around last year & it has to be said he had at least 3 players in that side were excellent: Hemmings, Thompson & Keane.
I will say now that the former poster Young Chubby 69 called it absolutely right. Instead of all the options CE took on disappointing strikers, well maybe he would have been better off paying Guiseley the fee for Reece. Ah hindsight but we wonder he seemed much happier & committed at Boston, was doing the business & the player also so wanted the move?
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Some of the refs do make dreadful decisions but there's a reason they're reffing at this level - many of them are still developing, and I have nothing but respect for anyone willing to don the black and subject themselves to that amount of abuse on a Saturday afternoon when they could just as easily not bother.
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Some of the refs do make dreadful decisions but there's a reason they're reffing at this level - many of them are still developing, and I have nothing but respect for anyone willing to don the black and subject themselves to that amount of abuse on a Saturday afternoon when they could just as easily not bother.
Spot on,I cringe at some of the comments aimed at the officials.
Without them there is no game.
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Some of the refs do make dreadful decisions but there's a reason they're reffing at this level - many of them are still developing, and I have nothing but respect for anyone willing to don the black and subject themselves to that amount of abuse on a Saturday afternoon when they could just as easily not bother.
Spot on,I cringe at some of the comments aimed at the officials.
Without them there is no game.
In our games using the traditional marks out of ten system, most the refs would score higher than many of our players .
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Some of the refs do make dreadful decisions but there's a reason they're reffing at this level - many of them are still developing, and I have nothing but respect for anyone willing to don the black and subject themselves to that amount of abuse on a Saturday afternoon when they could just as easily not bother.
I find it amazing how the other officials' sometimes are reluctant to help them out, the refs can't see everything at this level.
Often the other officials' are older and much more experienced than the younger refs and could easily put there flags up a bit more often.
But officiating is a dammed if you do or if you do job.
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Not sure what a "damned if you do or if you do job" is Fat Boy Slim or whatever you are now known as after your return from Poland. Amy is now 41 so she is hardly a youngster. Knew her from Loughborough (nee Raynor) and she is a really genuine lass.
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I wasn't questioning her integrity,ability or character.
Was there anywhere in my post that alluded to Amy's performance.
Whoever you think l am, and god knows why you think that l am a previous poster is beyond me.
Anyway l will out of politeness wish you a very nice weekend.