Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: The Infamous Stevie on October 27, 2016, 09:41:58 PM
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Anyone got a spare seat on Saturday? From Boston?
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Apologies for hi-jacking the thread Stevie. If I remember correctly, Nuneaton are awful with their pricing for concessions. Last year one of our party complained to the Nuneaton Club President at the game. Sadly, out of our party of four that went last year, two have passed away in the last year but we will be there tomorrow and hoping for a positive result.
TEP
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Admission:
£14 Adults, £12 Concessions, £3 Aged 16 & Under, FREE Aged 10 & Under
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Thanks P86 - dreadful treatment of the over 65's !
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So anyone gotta spare seat I can jump in on? Willing to pay petrol
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Saw a post which I agreed with on their forum bemoaning just how far both have fell (even NTFC have fallen off the rails since their initial rally after reformation). Take out last years do or die game where we turned up in reasonable numbers, the game at their place similar time to this, we were doing crap and there weren't many there (wasn't even a segregated game and it is the same tomorrow with only around 100 expected to go)
Both have lots of negativity floating around. Their public really seem to have given up on their side (the out of town location certainly not helping matters- something for us to fear if we start badly at the new venue), ours is heading that way although a few regular are clinging on.
Both have sold their 'best' players and realistically have very little to look forwards to having already been embarrassed in the cup.
A few years ago or in the Conference days against the original club, it was a fixture generally seen as one to look forwards to with the relatively short trip between us but tomorrow will be anything but.
Let's just hope any resurgence starts tomorrow, as it did last season at theirs.
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It sounds as though Nat Brown will play tomorrow on the basis of there being nobody else. I had assumed Ollie Price would be another option in defence, but he seems to have disappeared from the squad page. Have I missed something?
Hadn't noticed that Ollie's name is no longer on the squad page so also am wondering why. If Nat isn't fit enough the only suggestion I can think of is Marcus Marshall, who I believe fitted in there for part of a game earlier. Or Kalern Thomas as he can play right or left back, so maybe fill in in the middle.
Unless Dennis has found someone else?
Seems very unfortunate when you think about it, that Joe Maguire gets himself booked against Halifax in the 90th min when the game is already lost, causing him to miss the match against his former club Nuneaton.
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Sorry Stevie I'm travelling from the posh part of the tens :)
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Sorry Stevie I'm travelling from the posh part of the tens :)
Well hats selfish ;D
Thanks lol
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Should've seen that out. Very comfortable for over an hour then as soon as they get one we stop doing the good things that put us 2 up. Great penalty save from Dion and then we looked comfortable only to allow their bloke to take aim at the end and put it in the top corner. Frustrating
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Would have taken a point at the start but like Josh says, we should have won. We should have kept doing what we were doing instead of sitting back. I guess it's understandable given the result last week. Great to have Nat Brown back - MOM for me, Also good to have no abuse being fired at Dennis G.
Don't like Nuneaton - everything seems to be a rip off.
TEP
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Went today not expecting to get any more than a draw at best but was impressed with our movement of the ball and alround team performance. And then as soon as we went 2-0up Dennis changed it around and and invited them to attack us giving them time on the ball to pick a pass and shoot at will from being at in total control of the game we very nearly lost it. I felt sorry for the lads who did so well and put great effort in.
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Would have taken a point at the start but like Josh says, we should have won. We should have kept doing what we were doing instead of sitting back. I guess it's understandable given the result last week. Great to have Nat Brown back - MOM for me, Also good to have no abuse being fired at Dennis G.
Don't like Nuneaton - everything seems to be a rip off.
TEP
Should've seen that out. Very comfortable for over an hour then as soon as they get one we stop doing the good things that put us 2 up. Great penalty save from Dion and then we looked comfortable only to allow their bloke to take aim at the end and put it in the top corner. Frustrating
Good to hear such positive posts , well done to Dion lets hope we can keep him for the season .
A fit Nat Brown for the rest of the season will see us accumulate points and even the moaners will reflect what could have been , then again maybe not !!!!!
Good to hear Den in a bullish mood on BBC Lincs tonight, turned out a decent week in the end with a point won and a vote of confidence from the chairman .
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Oh dear GHM you've been on the cider again?
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Would have taken a point at the start but like Josh says, we should have won. We should have kept doing what we were doing instead of sitting back. I guess it's understandable given the result last week. Great to have Nat Brown back - MOM for me, Also good to have no abuse being fired at Dennis G.
Don't like Nuneaton - everything seems to be a rip off.
TEP
Should've seen that out. Very comfortable for over an hour then as soon as they get one we stop doing the good things that put us 2 up. Great penalty save from Dion and then we looked comfortable only to allow their bloke to take aim at the end and put it in the top corner. Frustrating
Good to hear such positive posts , well done to Dion lets hope we can keep him for the season .
A fit Nat Brown for the rest of the season will see us accumulate points and even the moaners will reflect what could have been , then again maybe not !!!!!
Good to hear Den in a bullish mood on BBC Lincs tonight, turned out a decent week in the end with a point won and a vote of confidence from the chairman .
Pete believe me this was not a point won it was 2 points thrown away. Yes Nat Brown improved things at the back, can't see how Joe Maguire will get back in. Hillyard had his best game ever for us along with Marshall, in fact they all played well but I will never understand why they were encouraged to take the ball in to the corners with more than ten minutes left, the reason we were beating them was our attacking passing football but after they got one it was abandoned by dropping deep and inviting them on. Why is Colley still at the club if he is not going to get another chance he has to be better than Telly Tubby?.
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BOSTON UNITED PLAYED AT NUNEATON AND DREW 2-2 AND ALL I READ ON HERE IS ARGUMENTS ABOUT BLOODY BREXIT AND FOREIGNERS WHO DON'T WANT TO WATCH FOOTBALL.
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BOSTON UNITED PLAYED AT NUNEATON AND DREW 2-2 AND ALL I READ ON HERE IS ARGUMENTS ABOUT BLOODY BREXIT AND FOREIGNERS WHO DON'T WANT TO WATCH FOOTBALL.
don't read it then....simple. It may not be to your taste, but these are issues that cannot be avoided in our town, and they spill into all walks of life, including Boston United.
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I agree with oxo pointless talk on an issue thats been decided. And you coukd take your own advice
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Fair enough I'll discuss BUFC on other forums and leave this one to those ( some who do not go to games) to hijack for their own political views.
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I didn't get to the match yesterday, but am interested to read the comments about dropping deep once ahead. Why is it managers (and DG is very far from being the only one - it happens at every level including the top) change the tactics that have got a team into a winning position and just invite trouble? I simply don't understand it. Sometimes we and other teams have been fortunate to hang on like that (which is of course pointed out by the managers concerned), but I've seen us and other teams throw away a win.
I know I don't understand anything about football like the pros, so can someone explain please?
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Because teams when losing, generally stick on extra attacking players. You have to counter that, by either bringing on a defender in place of an attacker, or by dropping the formation deeper. We used to bring on Galinski to strengthen our defence - he made 20 sub appearances in 2013/14! Burgess has been doing that role over the past 6 months, coming on in a defensive midfield role.
It invites pressure, but losing teams will usually revert to desperation and play direct football (more often than not, it doesn't work and it tires them out). If you're equipped to deal with it, then it shouldn't be an issue. You hope to catch them on the counter, and increase your lead.
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Fair enough I'll discuss BUFC on other forums and leave this one to those ( some who do not go to games) to hijack for their own political views.
I have not made any political viewpoint whatsoever. This forum has long since ceased being only a BUFC discussion list. It it what it is, like it or not.
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Have to admit as a relative newcomer to this site I am disgusted that patter is turning into a political forum encouraged by some dubious postings by people who try have tried but only thinly disguised their heavy involvement at your club and have some alternative agenda which they are happy to bully other posters if they disagree. You know who you are. I will be ceasing my account today as this is no longer purely a footballing site. At least we are transparent at my own club. Wish BUFC all the best for the rest of the season but please feel free to come along to watch the Wongers from Horncastle sometime!
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Because teams when losing, generally stick on extra attacking players. You have to counter that, by either bringing on a defender in place of an attacker, or by dropping the formation deeper. We used to bring on Galinski to strengthen our defence - he made 20 sub appearances in 2013/14! Burgess has been doing that role over the past 6 months, coming on in a defensive midfield role.
It invites pressure, but losing teams will usually revert to desperation and play direct football (more often than not, it doesn't work and it tires them out). If you're equipped to deal with it, then it shouldn't be an issue. You hope to catch them on the counter, and increase your lead.
Spot on Scotty. Now...Galinski, that is a name i would welcome back. Rated him while he was here as he looked a good leader at the back when he did make an appearance. Am sure he could step up to this level again.
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Because teams when losing, generally stick on extra attacking players. You have to counter that, by either bringing on a defender in place of an attacker, or by dropping the formation deeper. We used to bring on Galinski to strengthen our defence - he made 20 sub appearances in 2013/14! Burgess has been doing that role over the past 6 months, coming on in a defensive midfield role.
It invites pressure, but losing teams will usually revert to desperation and play direct football (more often than not, it doesn't work and it tires them out). If you're equipped to deal with it, then it shouldn't be an issue. You hope to catch them on the counter, and increase your lead.
Spot on Scotty. Now...Galinski, that is a name i would welcome back. Rated him while he was here as he looked a good leader at the back when he did make an appearance. Am sure he could step up to this level again.
Difficult to replace an attacker with a defender when all the subs are attackers so why change at all?
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BOSTON UNITED PLAYED AT NUNEATON AND DREW 2-2 AND ALL I READ ON HERE IS ARGUMENTS ABOUT BLOODY BREXIT AND FOREIGNERS WHO DON'T WANT TO WATCH FOOTBALL.
No need to shout. I saw no comments on this thread about Brexit or foreigners. If you are talking about the In or Out thread you have posted on it before. Perhaps it is time to lock that thread Ken. Maybe it is passed it's sell by date it's only had nearly 22,000 views.
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Because teams when losing, generally stick on extra attacking players. You have to counter that, by either bringing on a defender in place of an attacker, or by dropping the formation deeper. We used to bring on Galinski to strengthen our defence - he made 20 sub appearances in 2013/14! Burgess has been doing that role over the past 6 months, coming on in a defensive midfield role.
It invites pressure, but losing teams will usually revert to desperation and play direct football (more often than not, it doesn't work and it tires them out). If you're equipped to deal with it, then it shouldn't be an issue. You hope to catch them on the counter, and increase your lead.
Spot on Scotty. Now...Galinski, that is a name i would welcome back. Rated him while he was here as he looked a good leader at the back when he did make an appearance. Am sure he could step up to this level again.
Difficult to replace an attacker with a defender when all the subs are attackers so why change at all?
Hence my 2nd option of "either bringing on a defender in place of an attacker, or by dropping the formation deeper". Essentially, you ask your defenders to stay on their feet, get the wingers to drop back and force the opposition to hit hopeful balls into the box or shoot from long range.
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Every soldier knows "the best form of Defence is Attack" - that's what it appears we did in the first half, so why change it??
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Every soldier knows "the best form of Defence is Attack" - that's what it appears we did in the first half, so why change it??
Those were great days in the home guard Ernie :)
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Every soldier knows "the best form of Defence is Attack" - that's what it appears we did in the first half, so why change it??
Is that what the Japanese Kamikaze pilots said too? ;)
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If you keep playing the same way and then concede , everyone will say why didn't the manager shore up the defence or just play more defensive ?
Keep attacking and score a third and the manager is a genius.
Personally, I feel we're not good enough defensively to sit back and invite pressure. We were good enough last season but that's when we had Piergianni at the back.
After the shouting and balling last week and taking into account the absence of Agnew and Smith, yesterday went pretty well.
TEP
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It didn't help that we were missing Smith. He's someone who can drop back when required, and win all the headers (like he does at defensive set pieces).
We don't have anybody else remotely like Smith.
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Thank you all for your suggestions - but I'm not convinced. I've seen it go wrong too often!
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Thank you all for your suggestions - but I'm not convinced. I've seen it go wrong too often!
That is the nature of football and for every player, team, manager etc that get's it right, there has to be an opposing player, team, manager etc that gets it wrong. It's what makes football such an interesting spectacle and why all fans have to take the highs with the lows.
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Thank you all for your suggestions - but I'm not convinced. I've seen it go wrong too often!
But how often? You probably only remember the ones we don't win...
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AS I said in my original post, it's not just from watching BUFC...........
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;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Interesting and informative P86, must have been difficult for you to decide to but it on this thread rather than another very long running thread currently on Patter ;)