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Title: F A Cup draw
Post by: Cavalier on September 25, 2020, 01:08:23 PM
Home to AFC Mansfield

If Gainsborough had beaten AFC Mansfield in the last round they would have been away to us, but at home at the same time! 
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Kirtonian on September 25, 2020, 05:04:03 PM
When are we likely to play at home? As I live in the Midlands I have not got too much info.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Cavalier on September 25, 2020, 06:42:12 PM
When are we likely to play at home? As I live in the Midlands I have not got too much info.

We don't know yet but keep watching BUFC's website.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: baldfinn on September 26, 2020, 06:23:13 PM
Am I right in thinking had we be drawn away to AFC Mansfield then a crowd would have been allowed  ?
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on September 27, 2020, 10:17:38 PM
Am I right in thinking had we be drawn away to AFC Mansfield then a crowd would have been allowed  ?

Correct, maximum 300.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: baldfinn on September 27, 2020, 10:29:28 PM
Ridiculous isn't, it I think we will play Saturday at the new ground
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on September 27, 2020, 10:43:31 PM
Ridiculous isn't, it I think we will play Saturday at the new ground

No chance. It will be at Gainsborough.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Bodge on September 28, 2020, 06:15:48 PM
Any updates on if fans will be allowed??
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on September 29, 2020, 11:50:09 AM
Silence.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Lee Newell on September 29, 2020, 12:31:15 PM
Sounds like many clubs are hoping for some government or Premier League to come forward in the next few days before Saturday but nothing agreed yet.  Will be a tough decision for clubs if nothing agreed by Saturday whether to play and begin players contracts when they will be obliged to pay players contracts for the season and may struggle to pay them without matchday income or to withdraw from the cup.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on September 29, 2020, 12:58:06 PM
Fans of elite clubs (Conf North/South) are banned from their clubs' games this weekend.

Non-elite club fans can go to their game as long as they are at home.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Mad Dog on September 29, 2020, 04:29:27 PM
What a farce!! We can't have fans at the cup tie because we are "elite"... Non elite clubs can have fans... Why can't there just be a set number of tickets - to allow for social distancing - made available.

If 600 fans can socially distance at a non elite ground, why can't 600 fans spread out for the elite level. 600 spectators socially distanced for our friendly at Gainsborough, but somehow it wouldn't be safe to play a cup match there with similar numbers present?

The FA have no idea!!!
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: aggy on September 29, 2020, 07:11:31 PM
Without clear guidance from the authorities regarding an imminent funding package I can imagine some of our level clubs not taking the contractual risks associated with kicking off in the cup.

I would support BUFC taking this pragmatic approach if it safeguards the club in the longer run.

Fingers crossed no one ends up having to make that decision..

Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Old boy thin on October 01, 2020, 06:15:29 AM
What's really strange here, is that before the play offs we were complaining about not being classed as elite.
Now we are complaining about being elite.
I suppose it comes down to that old saying " Be careful what you wish for"
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 01, 2020, 12:19:36 PM
I think being classed elite is beneficial overall. If we weren't we could be stuck playing in front of 600 fans at home, trying to pay for a squad assembled presumably for gates of double that.

Hopefully the government support will replace the necessary gate income, and all being well, we can at least watch the league games via some sort of streaming set up.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Lee Newell on October 01, 2020, 12:52:46 PM
Leamington just announced they are streaming their home cup tie on Saturday so should think they will also stream their match against us on Tuesday.

Good to see clubs are streaming, won't ake a huge amount but should be able to to make some profit from it to keep the clubs going rather than just relying on handouts. If 300 fans pay £10 per match to stream, £3000 (maybe around £2500 after expenses if done in a cheap way but could still provide a decent viewing experience with just 1 camera angle) which is a lot less than normal matchday revenue but all helps.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Dipdodah on October 01, 2020, 04:09:26 PM
Leamington just announced they are streaming their home cup tie on Saturday so should think they will also stream their match against us on Tuesday.

Good to see clubs are streaming, won't ake a huge amount but should be able to to make some profit from it to keep the clubs going rather than just relying on handouts. If 300 fans pay £10 per match to stream, £3000 (maybe around £2500 after expenses if done in a cheap way but could still provide a decent viewing experience with just 1 camera angle) which is a lot less than normal matchday revenue but all helps.
I agree Lee.  I think Boston will be missing a trick if they do not bring in some kind of PPV.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 01, 2020, 04:57:42 PM
The operators of the normal video camera that record the full match for thr highlights (and for performance analysis) have suggested that the Northolme doesn't have the necessary Internet connection speed to allow live streaming of a good quailty picture.

I imagine it's something the club will look into, in time for our first "home" league game.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Cousin Jack on October 01, 2020, 05:26:33 PM

        After the FA Youth Cup win over West Bridgford, chris b posted a link to the goals on twitter. They were filmed using something called a Sportsmast. Never heard of the company, but thought the picture quality amazing. It basically looked like a 6m pole on a tripod with camera mounted at top and a ground based cameraman operating controls through an eyelevel viewfinder. Surely a lot cheaper (and quicker)to organise than gantry & tv camera?  Are they commonly used to film sports events or are they something new?
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Old boy thin on October 01, 2020, 06:00:07 PM
I think being classed elite is beneficial overall. If we weren't we could be stuck playing in front of 600 fans at home, trying to pay for a squad assembled presumably for gates of double that.

Hopefully the government support will replace the necessary gate income, and all being well, we can at least watch the league games via some sort of streaming set up.
Let's hope we can get something sorted with streaming.
Be a real shame not to be able to watch this team play.
Without putting the mockers on it, l think this squad is a top 2 this season.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 01, 2020, 07:46:57 PM

        After the FA Youth Cup win over West Bridgford, chris b posted a link to the goals on twitter. They were filmed using something called a Sportsmast. Never heard of the company, but thought the picture quality amazing. It basically looked like a 6m pole on a tripod with camera mounted at top and a ground based cameraman operating controls through an eyelevel viewfinder. Surely a lot cheaper (and quicker)to organise than gantry & tv camera?  Are they commonly used to film sports events or are they something new?

I imagine they will become more popular. They don't offer live-streaming though. Video quality of recorded matches isn't an issue, the current ones do it absoutely fine.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Lee Newell on October 01, 2020, 08:40:03 PM
The operators of the normal video camera that record the full match for thr highlights (and for performance analysis) have suggested that the Northolme doesn't have the necessary Internet connection speed to allow live streaming of a good quailty picture.

I imagine it's something the club will look into, in time for our first "home" league game.

As you say hopefully will have the internet infrastructure in place to make streaming easier at new stadium

Yeah I saw Russell's tweet about needing good wifi with good internet connection, needing 8mbps upload internet speed for 1080 (HD tv quality) picture quality. Mobile coverage checker (https://checker.ofcom.org.uk/mobile-coverage) shows good 4G coverage at Northolme (DN21 2QW) which should be enough for a 480p picture quality (which is what non HD TV channels are broadcast in), which may be a solution.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 02, 2020, 09:46:29 AM
https://twitter.com/bostonunited/status/1311948256956555264

"While we continue to work on streaming plans for home league fixtures..."
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Lee Newell on October 02, 2020, 09:21:59 PM
Good news. Might be live stream of tomorrow's match on YouTube and club working on pay per view setup

https://www.bostonunited.co.uk/news/united-reemphasise-stay-at-home-message-2574111.html
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 02, 2020, 09:47:41 PM
Link for the YouTube livestream, as long as they have a good enough signal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tSZxqRtniA
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Cavalier on October 04, 2020, 12:09:06 PM
Is the next round (3rd Preliminary) still regionalised?
If so, could it be Peterborough Sports, Ilkeston, Kettering, Alfreton, Matlock, Cambridge City, Brackley or Bury Town?
40 matches with £5,625 for the winners and £1,875 for the losers.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 04, 2020, 01:50:10 PM
The first non-regionalised round is the 1st round proper, I believe
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Tash on October 05, 2020, 01:20:11 PM
Hemel Hempstead. At the Northolme.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Mad Dog on October 05, 2020, 01:34:21 PM
Last season we couldn't get a home tie - this season, when we can't attend, we're first out of the hat!!
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Cavalier on October 05, 2020, 02:59:11 PM
Hardly regional with Hemel Hempstead having a 280 miles round trip on a Tuesday evening but it may compensate for us having a home draw but still having to play it away (Gainsborough) again. Am assuming the date is Tues October 13 as per FA Website.
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 06, 2020, 11:21:47 AM
It's regionalised, but they've split the country in 3 - top, middle and bottom - but not realised this allowed ties such as Leiston (Suffolk) v Telford (Shropshire)!
Title: Re: F A Cup draw
Post by: Cavalier on October 06, 2020, 10:46:08 PM
It's regionalised, but they've split the country in 3 - top, middle and bottom - but not realised this allowed ties such as Leiston (Suffolk) v Telford (Shropshire)!

Thanks P86, it makes some sort of sense as we must be in the middle section and suppose it is difficult to regionalise the whole country whichever method you choose!