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Title: RETAINED LIST
Post by: CRANWELL PILGRIM on May 02, 2010, 01:27:58 PM
Hursty says they have now got to get together and think about the players they want to keep and to think about building a squad for next year.
Who should they keep? Will the likes of Pearson, Newsham, Sleath, Church and Wier Daley be poached by richer teams higher up in the pyramid.
As I understand it only Canners is contracted for next year.
Who would you like to see brought in?
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Post by: wez33 on May 02, 2010, 01:35:08 PM
My retained list would be
Evans
Parker, Pearson, Canners, Cully
Sleath, Church, Yates, maybe semple
Newsham, suarez, weir daley

would like to see a good keeper come in keep evans as back up,
Couple of defenders especially full backs
Then hopefully just improove where its possible to buy for further up the field,
Another target man to go with suarez would be good!
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: cappo on May 02, 2010, 02:04:53 PM
the squad we have got would do well in bsn i reckon.if we had not got promotion then maybe we would have struggled to keep one or two that might have gone to teams a bit higher up the pyramid but as it is, similar squad for me
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Dogbaby on May 02, 2010, 02:40:00 PM
I'm with cappo on this one - keep the entire squad as it is and see how the season starts.  If we struggle, then we can change things.
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Post by: Pete Brooksbank on May 02, 2010, 02:43:18 PM
I'm with cappo on this one - keep the entire squad as it is and see how the season starts.  If we struggle, then we can change things.

Seems sensible to me. Unlike last season, the squad needs little work to step up - I think the team we have now is better than the one that finished 10th the BSN before we got demoted. Perhaps another option up front...?
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on May 02, 2010, 02:46:42 PM
I don't think we need anymore than 2 or 3 additions.Who they should be and who should leave?-well i think i'll leave that to S&H-they seem to know what they're doing. ;)
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: cappo on May 02, 2010, 02:53:19 PM
I'm with cappo on this one - keep the entire squad as it is and see how the season starts.  If we struggle, then we can change things.

Seems sensible to me. Unlike last season, the squad needs little work to step up - I think the team we have now is better than the one that finished 10th the BSN before we got demoted. Perhaps another option up front...?
our currant team would beat the pre h/s squad every way possible and as pete says it finished 10th.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on May 02, 2010, 02:55:05 PM
I'm with cappo on this one - keep the entire squad as it is and see how the season starts.  If we struggle, then we can change things.

Seems sensible to me. Unlike last season, the squad needs little work to step up - I think the team we have now is better than the one that finished 10th the BSN before we got demoted. Perhaps another option up front...?
our currant team would beat the pre h/s squad every way possible and as pete says it finished 10th.

Unless Tony 'The Crane' Crane was playing, in which case the H/S team would be booted into next week and would lose to a 91st minute Crane penalty.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: fcum_91 on May 02, 2010, 03:20:18 PM
Well obv i don't support Boston, but i'd feel all your lads should be given a chance to prove themselves in BSN. Just my opinion like
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on May 02, 2010, 03:35:20 PM
Unless Tony 'The Crane' Crane was playing, in which case the H/S team would be booted into next week and would lose to a 91st minute Crane penalty.

God I miss the Crane, imagine the celebrations trying to lift the Crane above our heads.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 02, 2010, 03:46:13 PM
Don't think there'll be many changes. It will depend if we can keep some but having gone up I think the chances are much reduced of our players being poached. Can't see them wanting to shift sideways to another BSN/BSS team and even if they are wanted by teams higher they would have to turn fully pro which is a risk.

If I was to be nit picky there are 3 maybe 4 of the squad (not naming names) who might struggle at the level above, but as has been said I think they should be given a chance - S&H can tinker with the squad as we go along if needed similar to this season.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Deeping Pilgrim on May 02, 2010, 04:44:02 PM
Well I think Jamie Clarke will be the first one out of the door - as with the rest, although I haven't been a fan of either Cully or Wood they should be given a chance to see how well they adapt to a higher level. Another goal-keeper would be handy - we should keep Butcher though and send him out on loan to another club for the season so he can gain plenty of first team experience.

I do wonder if Hurst and Scott see Milly as being injury prone and might let him go? I hope not as he should be given a chance to show what he can do.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Seenbetter on May 02, 2010, 05:05:49 PM
Stuff this topic. We are one day after winning promotion. Lets enjoy the moment. Should be another week at least before we think about players that stay predictions. I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Sussex Pilgrim on May 02, 2010, 05:08:47 PM
Stuff this topic. We are one day after winning promotion. Lets enjoy the moment. Should be another week at least before we think about players that stay predictions. I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this.

Nope your not they earned it and deserve time to enjoy the moment.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: CRANWELL PILGRIM on May 02, 2010, 07:03:15 PM
Don't get me wrong. When I started this topic it was to raise a discussion about who we should keep or are likely to be able to keep.
I for one would like to see the vast majority of the squad that got us promotion kept. I am sure that with the odd exception they are more than capable of doing well one step higher. The question is will the vultures from above start to take some of the better players away from us.
I hope we get as many as possible signed up quickly to keep the vultures away.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on May 02, 2010, 07:07:34 PM
Nothing to defend CP, we might as well close the forum if it was just going to be a constant stream of 'well done etc.etc.'.  Congratulations to the team, staff and all connected but this message board is to air any view any fan has and wishes to share/discuss.

My two penneth would be another striker, maybe both full backs and as mentioned by others a keeper.  Let's not forget as we go up a level some players just won't quite make it and those older (not that there are many!) will have another year in the legs to cope with.

Frankly though I'd trust the managers and chairman with my bank details so i think i back them enough to get those they feel we need for next season!
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: BostonGoals on May 02, 2010, 07:08:20 PM
RETAINED LIST -

everyone
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: father Ted on May 02, 2010, 07:41:08 PM
Think they would have to see who leaves or gets poached before they can finalise a list  .
 They will look at the injury prone . .which puts AM in jeopardy .
    Looking at extra striking options is always recommended . .
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Bunyan on May 02, 2010, 08:47:25 PM
S&H may well surprise us again. Last season they got rid of nearly everyone and that worked out well!!!. Although they could keep everyone from this season I think that we shall again see some surprises. It may not be the players we expect to be released but may well be determined by the players they are able to bring in who would enjoy playing for us at the higher level of BSN and add something to the squad. Probably got 2 or 3 players in mind already. The're not the kind of managers to let the grass grow under their feet (except in the York Street 6 yard box!).

Until then let the players enjoy their moment of glory!
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Anita Goodsheet on May 02, 2010, 08:50:42 PM
id quite like to see bpa's number 5 lining up for us next season. he really stood out for me yesterday.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: father Ted on May 02, 2010, 08:55:23 PM
 Yes , but this team has proved it can rise to the big occasion , look at the 1st League match . . 2-1  win away at FCUM  .
   And its not an old team .
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: bostonwoody on May 03, 2010, 12:41:29 AM
My major fear isn't the players, it's more the impressive CV that Messrs Hurst and Scott are building that's worrying me, please gents if you read this keep it in the drawer for another couple of years at least.

I'd go to hell and back behind those 2 and after this years miracles believe in every decision they make, so I'm just waiting with interest to see what their views are
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Old yellow on May 03, 2010, 08:12:37 AM
First on my retained list would be the 2500 fans that turned up against Ferriby, to ensure a bigger budget and reduce our losses.
Extend the managers contracts for a further 12 months, with an option of another 12 months.
Then leave the rest to Scotty and Hurst.
The great thing about this site is that we all have a passion for the club, and support whoever wears the shirt, no matter how good or bad it may get.
What a load of match debaters we are.












Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: aggy on May 03, 2010, 10:13:56 AM
There are many cloggers in the NPL interdispersed with the odd gem.

I hope the management duo have been keeping their eyes open, particularly on Ross Hannah.

Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Bostonshire on May 03, 2010, 10:39:24 AM
RETAINED LIST -

everyone

Agree, all players should get there chance at the next level and in truth our bad games this year have been when teams have got right at us verry quick, BSN affords that extra second or 2 on the ball and this i think will suit our players
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Carl Newell on May 03, 2010, 11:13:47 AM
Hopefully Scott and Hurst won't be head hunted and persuaded by a bigger club. They are only part time and would have to give up any other commitments as surely any 'bigger' club than Boston would have to be a full time one.

During Rob Scott's interview he said that he would be looking at contracts this week before taking a well deserved holiday, so hopefully we will be hearing news sooner rather than later. Continuity is always a good thing (although a clear out of the injury prone dead would was much needed last year) so hopefully the core of the squad will be retained. These decisions are always difficult, many didn't believe Joby Gowshall would cut it in the Confrence but he proved many wrong and had a good season. However when we got promoted to the Football League we retained players like Nick Conroy, Andy Lodge and David Town to name just a few who didn't even get many games between them the previous season and were never going to be better than average local players.

Including Bird who is on loan the squad numbers currently at 21 on the home page. This would more than likely be the ideal number the managers would be looking for to get quality rather than quantity and to keep everyone happy. The managers will look at improving the squad in order to make progress. Personally I think Bird will go back to Grimsby. Clarke will be released. I am not a fan of Camm, Davies or Wood and think there is better out there. Five out would leave room for five in a left back, a right back, two midfielders, and a forward. The managers may choose to release more than five if they feel there is better value for money out there, the priority though should be retaining the core of the squad Pearson, Canoville, Church, Sleath and Weir Daley; obviously on reasonable wages.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: father Ted on May 03, 2010, 12:58:26 PM
 I think the Mgrs will stick around for another 2  yrs  . . the scent of  promotion possibilities is always a strong one .
    If they could get us to the Conference Nat  in say  2 yrs ,  I would let them go ; but then they'd prob only go a League higher .
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: BUFC Loyal on May 03, 2010, 01:14:12 PM
in my opinion S&H can acheive all they want right here as we have the fan base and sensible chairmen in Kempster and Newton

As for who to keep for next season in BSN, i think all the current sqaud should have a chance to prove themselves at this level but if push came to shove and i had to pick players who i think are essentails to keep i'd say

Pearson
Canners
Yates
Newsh
SWD
Sleath
Church
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: father Ted on May 03, 2010, 01:24:29 PM
Of course S B  .
  Speaking generally we should be in a good position  .
    TT only had a short time to assemble about 18 players out of the 'unattached'  box and managed to place us 12 th in the BSN  .
    The present  mgrs have much more drive and focus so it should not be difficult  to make the B.S.N playoffs .
      Also I think players ,esp in Non -League , respond to the level and quality of support a club gets  .
             Nuff said  !
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: green hats mate on May 03, 2010, 02:50:56 PM
In the NLP yesterday Canners did the Dream Team feature , included in his team was Cully.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Carl Newell on May 03, 2010, 03:00:14 PM
Also playing at york street means playing in a proper stadium every other week. Even Bradfords ground who have more money than most at this level was more of a field with one stand. Even looking at the very top of non league football I remember going to Oxford in the Football league days and even there ground seemed very 'artificial' with only three sides and despite the home side winning 2-1 despite a rare Stuart Douglas goal (i think) the was next to no atmosphere even though there was a big gate. Basically in non league York Street is on a par with any ground.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: John C on May 03, 2010, 09:44:18 PM
Like Boston Woody, I'd worry about the managers rather the players, something not helped by my Millers-supporting brother-in-law routinely referring to Scott and Hurst as "Rotherham's next managers". But they were shabbily treated by Ilkeston and I suspect they will honour their current contract, especially, as has been noted, to go to a club in a higher league means going full-time. That said, I do think they will leave for a bigger club at some point but they will leave us in a better position than they found us. I'm sure Newton and Kempster are considering contract extensions and the like as we speak.

As for the players, I'd give them all a chance next season. I don't know that many will leave for better pastures - the having to go full-time thing applies to them too and clearly they like playing for each other, the managers and also for us, the fans.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: BU on the up on May 04, 2010, 11:06:37 AM
I feel (as many others on here) that unless a league side come in for our players or managers then they will all stick together and go again next year in the BSN. With our fan base they have the potential to take this club into the league over time. They have years ahead of them as managers so at least 2/3 years with us would be ideal for them as it gives them the chance to learn their trade at a big stable club.

I feel the following should definatly be offered new deals with a new goalkeeper being top of our wanted list:
Pearson, Canners, Cully, Sleath, Church, Yates, Newsham, Suarez, Weir Daley

Sooooooo happy we are out of that tinpot league - never to return again!!!

BU on the UP!!
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: green hats mate on May 04, 2010, 04:08:02 PM
Can someone remind me of the games Evans has lost us this season ?
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: father Ted on May 04, 2010, 04:26:19 PM
 Tom Evans  ?
   I would proffer  Burscough Away . . had a good view  .
    Not saying he should leave . . goalies can do a job into their late 30 s , even quite  high up the Leagues .
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: artie on May 04, 2010, 04:31:16 PM
Lowestoft  ???
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Post by: green hats mate on May 04, 2010, 04:37:24 PM
Kevin Poole at Burton is 46 and has been retained for next season.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: father Ted on May 04, 2010, 04:39:01 PM
I think he,s mainly the coach ..
  But there  U go . .
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Richie..p on May 04, 2010, 05:43:18 PM
didn't we finish with the least amount of conceded goals in the league. Evans is the best keeper we've owned since bazza no doubt. I'd keep the lot. They deserve a crack at the next level with maybe three or four coming in.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on May 04, 2010, 05:48:03 PM
Tom Evans  ?
   I would proffer  Burscough Away . . had a good view  .
    Not saying he should leave . . goalies can do a job into their late 30 s , even quite  high up the Leagues .

Hmmm, not sure I agree regarding Burscough, the wind was the major factor not the keeper.  That said it was hardly his (or the rest of the lads) finest hour!
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: LPRA on May 04, 2010, 06:04:12 PM
I've only been to two games this season so am not massively qualified to speak about this but from what I've seen, most of the players deserve a crack at the BSN.

They all seem young, hungry and together - the team spirit looks better than it has for years.

My only reservations would be the long fellas up front. They're a bit pony aren't they?
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Carl Newell on May 04, 2010, 08:02:20 PM
Ritchie P we cannot keep everyone and add 4 or 5 because 1 that would me a squad of around 25 meaning 9 players sat in the stands and 2 we couldn't afford it, the better performers this season will expect a pay rise and rightly so who wouldn't in there situation? Pay rises plus 4 or 5 more on the wage bills wouldn't be within our budget. Whilst everyone has given 100% this season football is harsh and a few will move on.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: BostonGoals on May 04, 2010, 10:11:53 PM
Evans kept us in the match on saturday, pulling off that brilliant save near the end from the head, that llooked a certain goal.

I do think that one of our big strikers will leave us though, I dont see us keeping both of them.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Bostonshire on May 04, 2010, 10:24:41 PM
I dont know what some peoples gripe is with evans, he only conceaded 34 all season, with this only been bettered buy 2 teams throu the confrence and unibond i think dispite little errors its all in save hands
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: BU on the up on May 05, 2010, 09:20:01 AM
You can't fault Evans when it comes to his shot stopping - I just feel he looks weak at set pieces and there have been times this season where he hasn't been commanding enough.

Of course it's up to the managers to decided and I'm sure they will be the best people to decide who is good enough for the step up and who isn't.

Promotion is finally starting to sink in!

BU on the UP!!
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Richie..p on May 05, 2010, 09:22:26 PM
your right Carl. I didnt really make sense with what i meant. I would keep them all at first but within a few weeks id expect a few might move on and a few come in to replace the ones which conf north dont suit.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: John C on May 05, 2010, 11:26:54 PM
Re Evans I can understand people being concerned about him not commanding the area as he never comes for the ball. But that the does mean the defenders aren't in any doubt, he's not coming and they have to clear it, and that lack of confusion is probably a good thing. And you can't argue with the fewest goals in the league.

But, as with everything else, i'll leave any changes to S & H as they clearly know what they're doing...

Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Finchley Tiger on May 06, 2010, 10:33:40 AM
According to Non-League Daily not all the squad will be retained

http://www.nonleaguedaily.com/news/index.php?&newsmode=FULL&nid=66654 (http://www.nonleaguedaily.com/news/index.php?&newsmode=FULL&nid=66654)

Any released players that are any good we'll have  ;D
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Old Pilgrim on May 06, 2010, 11:02:25 AM

I see Gainsborough are cutting their wage bill by 25% for next season!!
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: AJHallgarth on May 07, 2010, 06:33:23 PM
From Craig Singleton on Twitter:

The club's retained list has been finalised. News should be on www.bufc.co.uk in the next hour or so...
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Carl Newell on May 07, 2010, 06:42:24 PM
Matt Bird has been omitted from the squad list today so guessing he has returned to Grimsby.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Pilgrim86 on May 07, 2010, 06:54:48 PM
UNDER CONTRACT FOR 2010-2011
Lee Canoville

OFFERED NEW TERMS FOR 2010-2011
Simon Ashton
Aaron Butcher
Anthony Church
Shane Clancy
James Cullingworth
Danny Davidson
Gareth Davies
Marc Newsham
Liam Parker
Shaun Pearson
Ryan Semple
Danny Sleath
Mikel Suarez
Spencer Weir-Daley
Jamie Yates

RELEASED WITHOUT OFFER FOR 2010-2011
Mark Camm
Jamie Clarke
Tom Evans
Adam Millson
Chris Wood

http://www.bufc.co.uk/article/3234963/Quintet-released-by-United-bosses
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: les on May 07, 2010, 07:00:04 PM
Do you think the release of Tom Evans means a chance to step up for Butcher, or will we be signing  another number 1 goal keeper.
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Post by: wez33 on May 07, 2010, 07:00:53 PM
would have liked to have kept camm, suprised davies and davidson have been offered new deals though
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Post by: lonegunman on May 07, 2010, 07:01:52 PM
Ilson centre half then anybody? ;) Not sure about the keeper though, anyone got an idea?

check the grassy knoll
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Tash on May 07, 2010, 07:04:07 PM
Do you think the release of Tom Evans means a chance to step up for Butcher, or will we be signing  another number 1 goal keeper.

I would say they will be signing a new N01 keeper
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Pilgrim86 on May 07, 2010, 07:10:54 PM
Have Gainsborough actualy announced their retained list? Phil Barnes is good mates with Canners..
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: palada on May 07, 2010, 07:12:15 PM
No real suprises for me to be honest. Feel for milly' tho. All he has done wrong was to get injured. Hope he gets fit again soon and gets sorted.
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Post by: Senny on May 07, 2010, 07:19:15 PM
Yeah I feel for Milly too but it makes sense when the budget is tight and no real way of knowing when he will return to fitness.
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Post by: palada on May 07, 2010, 07:33:13 PM
Yeah I feel for Milly too but it makes sense when the budget is tight and no real way of knowing when he will return to fitness.


Couldn't agree more. Our managers certainly look at the big picture thankfully.

Anybody know Woksop's retained/released list ?
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Post by: Carl Newell on May 07, 2010, 07:53:48 PM
Disappointed to see Millson released although could see this coming with Evans being the surprise choice to be released. Agree with Wood, Clarke and Camm they were only just good enough for Unibond so wouldn't fancy them making the step up. Why Worksop do you have anyone in mind?
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Post by: faraway pilgrim on May 07, 2010, 07:58:18 PM
For what its worth i think we need a new no1 keeper. But more importantly is the formation of the team next season. Not taking anything away from the team, but the words character and belief were used far too often last season. We came from behind in too many games. The question should be asked WHY ARE WE GOING BEHIND IN GAMES. The con north will be less forgiving, more teams will hang on to leads. We play with basically two wingers waiting for the ball to come to them. When the going gets tough they go missing. The two middle players find themselves more often than not outnumbered. we should play with a more hard to beat set up rather than "we will scrore more than you". Arsenal under George Graham rather than Newcastle under Kevin keegan. I have not mentioned any names simply because we dont know whos staying or not. Better teams will match our fitness so its vitally important we dont give teams leads, make them earn it.  Am i watching a different BOSTON than YOU? DISCUSS.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: Carl Newell on May 07, 2010, 08:02:34 PM
Faraway pilgrim we do know who is staying (or atleast can if they wont to) and we will be getting a new keeper to challenge Butcher. Check page 4!!!
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: faraway pilgrim on May 07, 2010, 08:10:02 PM
CARL  I hope most of the players offered terms stay, but i think there will be players on that list leaving. Note- do you think hursty will be our new left back now his contract has expired at  Ilkeston
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Post by: green hats mate on May 07, 2010, 08:12:38 PM
Seems to me F P that going behind and "we will score more than you" ploy makes for exciting matches , plus it got us promoted .  Better idea than last seasons tactic of going behind early and settling for defeat.
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Post by: green hats mate on May 07, 2010, 08:17:34 PM
Many thanks to the players leaving for their 100% effort and contribution during the time at the club. Hope they soon get fixed up with a new club. 
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Post by: Carl Newell on May 07, 2010, 08:51:16 PM
Well done to all hope they still come to the celebrations next Saturday.
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Post by: O CHO MEALLT on May 07, 2010, 09:19:41 PM
I don't think there are too many surprises on the released list.Whatever people think of Wood,he was one of the first on the team sheet every week.I feel a bit for him,and Cammy,although we've never seen the best of him due to injury.It's always sad to see players leave when you've had a successful season,and i'm sure H&S found the decisions much harder than this time last year.Bit surprsed both DD and Mikel have been offered deals,i thought it would be one or the other.Thanks to all those released,they have all played there part this season,good luck to them for the future.
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: leicester pilgrim on May 07, 2010, 10:00:54 PM

Whilst the managers have got the vast majority of their decisions right over the past year, I'm a bit disappointed to read about the players being released:

(1) TOM EVANS
- Yes, he had his nightmares against Burscough and Lowestoft, but he had more good performances than bad ones. You have to say that he single-handedly kept FC United at bay on the opening day of the season, and equally produced some vital saves in the play-offs against North Ferriby and Bradford Park Avenue. When I look at the players retained by the club, I only really see Canoville and Davidson with any experience. Personally I would have liked to have seen Tom marshalling the back line for one more season.

(2) CHRIS WOOD
- He had his detractors early on, but as the season progressed I thought he was our most improved player. Personally I'd have kept him ahead of Cullingworth, as I think he distributes the ball better and is more versatile. He filled in admirably at centre-back away at Hucknall, which I don't think Cullingworth could have done.

(3) ADAM MILLSON
- I don't think the managers have seen enough of Millson in first team competitive action to make this kind of decision. He's been very unlucky with injuries. As a minimum he should have been offered the chance to attend pre-season trials and prove his fitness. If I'd been in charge I would have offered him a contract until Christmas to prove his worth.

(4) MARK CAMM
- Probably the one decision that I agree with. I think there are better players around and I'm not sure he has what it takes to step up to Conference North. That said, I don't think he's been any worse than Davies?

(5) JAMIE CLARKE
- I suppose this was inevitable given the time spent out on loan, but quite simply never had a chance at Boston in his prefered central striking position. Disappointing, as from what we saw in the early weeks of the season he is technically a much better player than Danny Davidson and works harder off the ball than Marc Newsham. Scored plenty of goals out on loan and I'm sure will continue to do so next season.

Good luck to all the players concerned and thanks for all their efforts!
Title: Re: RETAINED LIST
Post by: BostonGoals on May 07, 2010, 10:42:28 PM
I think Evans and Millson were the only surprises for me, but we may also be saying goodbye to some of the players offered new deals as they may progress up the pyramid (Church, Pearson)

Thank you to all the players who contributed this season, and good luck to those leaving.
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Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 07, 2010, 10:50:36 PM
Don't think there'll be many changes. It will depend if we can keep some but having gone up I think the chances are much reduced of our players being poached. Can't see them wanting to shift sideways to another BSN/BSS team and even if they are wanted by teams higher they would have to turn fully pro which is a risk.

If I was to be nit picky there are 3 maybe 4 of the squad (not naming names) who might struggle at the level above, but as has been said I think they should be given a chance - S&H can tinker with the squad as we go along if needed similar to this season.
When I said 3 or 4 I wasn't counting Matt Bird as he was a loanee or Jamie Clarke as he was as good as gone anyway. So of the others released:

Adam Millson - was 1 of my 4. Feel for him on a personal level as he has had a bad run with injuries but agree with the decision a bit of a risk to offer terms to a player who hasn't played for over a season.

Chris bird - another of my 4. Although as has been said was much improved towards the end felt he was still a bit of a weak link. Saw it most against FCUM, getting turned inside out by their number 10, Wright I think it was. Also his crossing when he got forward was appaling and he wasted many good positions because of his inability to keep a ball in play when crossing from the by-line.

Tom Evans - Surprised about this 1 and not 1 of my 4. As LP has said had a couple of shocking games at Burscough and Lowestoft but generally was solid enough. The big concern was sometimes seemed rooted to his line and didn't command his area enough. I actually thought Aaron Butcher would go and he was another of my 4, this is not because I don't rate Aaron but because he hasn't really had a look in this season. Pleased for the lad and he had a phenomenal game in the UCL Cup final against Retford. Don't think he will stay here to be number 2 again so that will have a big bearing on whether he stops or not.

Mark Camm - Another I'm sort of half surprised at. Was a good solid player until he got injured but then never really got back in the team. On reflection him and Davies where similar players and only 1 was ever going to be retained. Despite what others have said on here I think S&H rate Davies, I think he is 1 who is solid if unspectacular and goes about his business well and was right he was retained.

The other player in my 4 was 1 of Suarez/Davidson. Both have been very hot and cold all season and both seem to play better coming off the bench. I personally thought Danny Davidson would have been the 1 going.

Think they have got it about right. For me Suarez/Davidson have the most to prove at the next level up if they stay and hope they prove me wrong. Hope that those offered accept the deals, if not all then the majority to give us a solid base to work from.

Good luck to all the players released you have all done your bit and hope you find new clubs in the not too distant future.
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Post by: Finchley Tiger on May 07, 2010, 11:04:07 PM


Anybody know Woksop's retained/released list ?

Surely you don't want players we are releasing!  :o  ;D

So far we have announced that Scott Lowe, Matty Thorpe & Jared Holmes have been released. I suspect there will be more as we make new signings.

We did make two new signings this week Deon Meikle (Hucknall) & Peter Knox (Harrogate Town). There will be more to follow!

http://www.worksoptownfc.co.uk/news/details.php?news_id=1428 (http://www.worksoptownfc.co.uk/news/details.php?news_id=1428)
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Post by: Old yellow on May 08, 2010, 07:48:51 AM
Big thank you to all the players released, S&H know what they are doing, we needed to freshen up the squad to progress in the Blue Square North. Expect some of this years first team to become squad players. The question is, which players would we like to sign for the club?
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Post by: noughtyforties on May 08, 2010, 10:21:16 AM
I wonder why the comments on this story on the BUFC Facebook site have been erased?

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Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on May 08, 2010, 10:42:53 AM
Agree with the list really, not that much of a shock for any .  Complete trust in the managers so untill the opening game they have plenty of time to shape things
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Post by: oxo on May 08, 2010, 12:09:45 PM
Have noproblems with the list and complete faith in our managers judgement. Hope they all can be persuaded to stay as I really do feel we can move forward with a group of players who gelled so well over the season. As for the doubts expressed by some re Danny and Mikel I feel they are unfounded as when one subbed the other more often than not it was a success.

As for the shirts I dont really care its whats in them that counts.
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Post by: Czuczmans Rocket on May 08, 2010, 12:24:31 PM
I'm quite sad to see Evans go to be honest, had far more good games than bad and produced several very important saves in vital games, maybe this is the time for Butcher to step forward and fufill his potential. Good luck Tom, a sound pro who did a great job for us in a great season.

Chris Wood i think proved to be a very useful aquisition due to his versatlility, improved and got stronger as the season progressed, perhaps he has found his level, who knows. I liked Woody and he will be fondly remembered around York Street.

Mark Camm reminds me a little of Wes Parker, not in his style of play or anything but the fact he was an early summer signing, captained the side and arrived with a great CV. I really wanted it to work out for Cammy as he seemed a decent guy but it just never really got going for him, i kind of waited for it to happen but it never did. Maybe injuries or whatever but thanks Cammy and good luck mate.


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Post by: Keynsham Pilgrim on May 08, 2010, 12:27:18 PM
I have great faith in the managers and their decisions so will wait and see what happens and get behind the players, managers and board when the new season comes around.

I am more then happy to put blind faith into these guys as they earned it last year.
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Post by: O CHO MEALLT on May 08, 2010, 12:45:47 PM
No-one is doubting the managers decisions regarding those leaving.I have every faith they will get it right,just as they did this time last year.However.as i said in an earlier post,i am sure their decision was harder this time around,after a season of success.There was always going to be some leaving.Budget constraints mean some have to go to get some in.I do feel though for Cammy and Woody.Cammy was probably expected,with his season disrupted by injury,but he is still a player who will do a great job for someone.Woody,i think,is more of a surprise,at least to me.S&H have shown great faith in their younger players,and whatever anyone says,the fact is Woody started 34 and was a used sub once out of 38 league games.Perhaps Unibond Premier is his level.Good luck to all those released,and lets hope all those offered terms accept them.
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Post by: woad_pilgrim on May 08, 2010, 01:55:45 PM
I think Evans and Millson were the only surprises for me, but we may also be saying goodbye to some of the players offered new deals as they may progress up the pyramid (Church, Pearson)

Thank you to all the players who contributed this season, and good luck to those leaving.
Can't see Church going tbh as he dropped down a level to play for S&H last season, Pearson I would guess will only go if offered silly money by a bigger higher placed club (Conf Nat or above) and I can see him being here next season. Of the rest the biggest doubt will be Weir-Daley who may attract attention from a bigger club. Whatever happens I trust S&H to bring in decent replacements if some do turn down deals.

If they all do sign we would need another goalkeeper and left footed player who could play centre back and full back. I would say we also need another centre midfielder and either another defensive player or striker, both if finances allow.
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Post by: Pride of Lincolnshire on May 08, 2010, 04:28:09 PM
Can understand the managers decisions on letting the 5 players go.
However I'm very Surprised to see DD asked to stay. Mikel is my prefered choice out of the two tall forwards. Mikel has adapted well to the unibond and has progressed as a player. DD has not shown as much improvement and doesn't give the team much difference in offering an alternative style of striker. The managers want a variety of players in the squad. It seems having both the 2 tall lads doesnt benefit us much, as their style of play is very similar. This isn't a dig at Danny. I just think we could find a better forward which we'll need to compete in the BSN. Some might say look at the goals DD has got for us and yes they all played a part in helping us to win. But why have 2 players that offer the same role within a team when you could have a different player offering us more options ? With a limited budget it's all about having options. The managers have done amazing job finding such a versatile squad, this is the only area I think they could of reassessed before offering new contracts.

All the best to players leaving, sad to loose anyone in this seasons squad.
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Post by: les on May 08, 2010, 09:00:23 PM
I see that Luton have released a goal keeper Shane Gore.
Does anyone know anything about him.
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Post by: Imp Stalker on May 08, 2010, 09:50:43 PM
seen him play for Havant and Waterlooville. Didnt stand out really.  Kevin Scriven was much better
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Post by: Seenbetter on May 09, 2010, 12:37:36 PM
Can't understand why Evans is going. I thought he was good for us, unless of course the managers know more than we do and have someone better on the cards. As for Woody, I thought he was holding his own and doing ok. Bit sad to see him go because he had come on a long way through the season. As for DD and MS, I must confess I would have moved both of them out. I would prefer to see a quick strong player about 4 inches shorter than DD because he would still be able to jump higher than him. MS gets more in the air but I thought he was slow and ran out of puff too easily.
I do have a theory as to why DD could not jump, his endowement was holding him down, if you know what I mean.  ::) ::)
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Post by: Bartmac on May 09, 2010, 01:43:56 PM
Not surprised to see Woody go, for me he tended to back off attacking players therefore allowing them to cross the ball instead of getting up close and preventing them, also, if anyone had kept a statistic of mis-placed passes over the season I'm sure Woody would've been well to the fore!!!
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Post by: les on May 09, 2010, 07:21:00 PM
MS is deceptively quick.
His style of running makes him look a bit laboured, and he doesn't put in quite so much effort if he is second best,but if he is in front he rarely gets caught, and he is very powerful in the air.
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Post by: Deeping Pilgrim on May 09, 2010, 08:03:01 PM
While Mikel is certainly a better header of the ball than Danny I don't think he can handle the physical side of the game as well as Danny can, plus Danny is quicker off the mark than Mikel who just seems to jog around the pitch.
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Post by: cappo on May 09, 2010, 08:09:30 PM
For what its worth i think we need a new no1 keeper. But more importantly is the formation of the team next season. Not taking anything away from the team, but the words character and belief were used far too often last season. We came from behind in too many games. The question should be asked WHY ARE WE GOING BEHIND IN GAMES. The con north will be less forgiving, more teams will hang on to leads. We play with basically two wingers waiting for the ball to come to them. When the going gets tough they go missing. The two middle players find themselves more often than not outnumbered. we should play with a more hard to beat set up rather than "we will scrore more than you". Arsenal under George Graham rather than Newcastle under Kevin keegan. I have not mentioned any names simply because we dont know whos staying or not. Better teams will match our fitness so its vitally important we dont give teams leads, make them earn it.  Am i watching a different BOSTON than YOU? DISCUSS.
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Post by: Bostonshire on May 09, 2010, 09:55:04 PM
For what its worth i think we need a new no1 keeper. But more importantly is the formation of the team next season. Not taking anything away from the team, but the words character and belief were used far too often last season. We came from behind in too many games. The question should be asked WHY ARE WE GOING BEHIND IN GAMES. The con north will be less forgiving, more teams will hang on to leads. We play with basically two wingers waiting for the ball to come to them. When the going gets tough they go missing. The two middle players find themselves more often than not outnumbered. we should play with a more hard to beat set up rather than "we will scrore more than you". Arsenal under George Graham rather than Newcastle under Kevin keegan. I have not mentioned any names simply because we dont know whos staying or not. Better teams will match our fitness so its vitally important we dont give teams leads, make them earn it.  Am i watching a different BOSTON than YOU? DISCUSS.

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attack..attack...attack attack attack (discussed)