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Title: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on January 10, 2014, 06:02:20 PM
Has just signed for Kings Lynn.

DL
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: kingofnaves on January 10, 2014, 06:04:21 PM
Was there a fee from them?
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: jonathanBUFC on January 10, 2014, 06:13:58 PM
Only on loan
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: kingofnaves on January 10, 2014, 06:21:56 PM
Loan thats good I thought we would have to pay KL a fee.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: LPRA on January 10, 2014, 06:37:11 PM
You're welcome http://www.bostonunited.co.uk/news/trio-hand-united-boost-as-sanders-moves-on-loan-1133030.html
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: miele on January 10, 2014, 07:37:49 PM
how did he get on at peterbor/northern star spalding and grantham.
did they not want him for a second spell?
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Seenbetter on January 10, 2014, 07:48:34 PM
DL started off well using the word 'signed' and then jonathanbufc spoiled it with the word 'loan'. How long will it be before he gets sent off for 'elbows'.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 10, 2014, 08:21:57 PM
how did he get on at peterbor/northern star spalding and grantham.
did they not want him for a second spell?
He was on dual-registration with both, so we always had first dibs.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Winging It on January 10, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
i cannot believe some of the comments on here about the young lad. yes , he made one mistake with the elbow. but how many of you lot have made mistakes. most of you would be divorced if this is how you see things.  since that incident , has he raised his elbows in anger.....no !  i rest my case. 
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Shauneyg on January 10, 2014, 10:23:20 PM
He is not good enough for this level im afraid it's as simple as that
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Winging It on January 10, 2014, 10:33:00 PM
He is not good enough for this level im afraid it's as simple as that

Not at the moment, but that does not warrant the torrent of abuse that he gets does it surely ? All players that pull on a shirt should be supported, we will soon get a reputation as a bunch of moaners....oh , wait .. :bunny
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Shauneyg on January 10, 2014, 10:40:44 PM
No I agree no need for the abuse but it's just my opinion that he is not good enough. Nothing against the lad.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Burgh Boy on January 10, 2014, 10:48:56 PM
i cannot believe some of the comments on here about the young lad. yes , he made one mistake with the elbow. but how many of you lot have made mistakes. most of you would be divorced if this is how you see things.  since that incident , has he raised his elbows in anger.....no !  i rest my case.
Are you saying that most of us would raise an elbow to our wives? Not the best of posts, Lefty.   
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Winging It on January 10, 2014, 11:12:18 PM
Burgh Boy,
my point was most of us have made mistakes in life, be that work wise, relationship wise etc, etc.  the relationship thing was used to make a point of we have all made mistakes with the other half. nothing to do with elbows,  does that clear that up  ::)
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: swineshead pilgrim! on January 10, 2014, 11:44:59 PM
I see your point! But when we are looking to get a goal and if we are going to be serious play off challengers, he is just not good enough to be in our squad, he should of been loaned out a long time ago
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Winging It on January 11, 2014, 12:08:48 AM
this is why he has been loaned out, his needing of games and more experience. like i said, my only gripe with all this is people moaning and judging by just one mistake. 
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 11, 2014, 12:16:35 AM
Is there much difference in Charley now, and Elding when he was in the reserves? A loan spell, playing regularly, and hopefully scoring a few could see him come back and prove that he deserves his place in the squad.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Maxross on January 11, 2014, 12:43:11 AM
Is there much difference in Charley now, and Elding when he was in the reserves? A loan spell, playing regularly, and hopefully scoring a few could see him come back and prove that he deserves his place in the squad.

Excellent point Pilgrim 86, I remember their being almost identical comments on here about Elding when he was in a similar position at Boston in the late 90's/early 2000's.  What people need to remember about Sanders (and other youth players) is that they are young, and that young players simply don't come out of the youth setup as the finished article.  That is the case everywhere, even the premiership, even the bundesliga (who have a great record in developing young talent). They develop through playing games.  Of course the key thing is that these players have potential.  Hopefully a decent spell getting game time at Kings Lynn will help develop that potential and bring him closer to being a useful first team player next season.

What I object to is the lack of encouragement they receive.  We've got a youth setup to be proud of which regularly develops players with the potential to be placed in our squad by several different managers now.  How about a bit of understanding and encouragement? Young people make mistakes, it's how they learn, but with nurture and clever use of the loan system for them to gain experimence, we could have a regular source of decent standard squad players or better.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Winging It on January 11, 2014, 08:52:54 AM
Finally two level headed comments  ;D  We just have to look at the premier league and use one youth player, Adnan Januzaj as an example. He has made a few "mistakes" or "errors" where he could have been sent off. Yet are Man U fans slating him ? Of course not. Raw talent needs time and development.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Burgh Boy on January 11, 2014, 09:22:24 AM
Got to feel a bit sorry for Charlie. The lad is literally playing for a different side each week which must be bad and confusing for him. Seems like Management are just bouncing him from pillar to post. Charlie needs to find a club that will accept him - even if that is at level 5 - and not bung him off on loan or on some dubious dual registration scheme. :bunny
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 11, 2014, 09:47:29 AM
That's why he has gone on loan for the rest of the season...
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: uncleremus on January 11, 2014, 10:44:46 AM
i agree with most people we need to give him a chance, but with 2 sending off and only one goal surely he has had a chance.  if he has had time to get sent off twice surely he has had time to win a place, sorry not good enough for our league level.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: B Grimes on January 11, 2014, 11:34:04 AM
He is not good enough for this level im afraid it's as simple as that

Not at the moment, but that does not warrant the torrent of abuse that he gets does it surely ? All players that pull on a shirt should be supported, we will soon get a reputation as a bunch of moaners....oh , wait .. :bunny

Good point, but supporters on here, once they take a dislike to someone do go over the top. The last time was a certain 5'2" manager if memory serves and whilst the lad is not good enough as yet, doesn't warrant abuse, no one does
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: howmanynames2pick on January 11, 2014, 11:50:31 AM
The thing is, DG obviously sees potential in the lad. I think getting him to sign was a great idea.
Its hard to think of anyone more committed to the club.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Seenbetter on January 11, 2014, 12:10:52 PM
The bottom line is, and you only have to see him play to realise this, he is not good enough for this level. If promotion is an ambition of the club then it cannot rely on experimenting with players who cannot ,as yet, do the job. The best players available should be put on the pitch not the only players we have left. 
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 12, 2014, 01:08:32 PM
Sanders signed a contract until the end of NEXT season.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: green hats mate on January 12, 2014, 02:14:12 PM
I seem to recall similar comments to those on Sanders being made on the Spayne terrace about 30 years ago when Chris Cook was learning the trade .
 Does anyone who went to Hednesford yesterday think the new striker did a better job than Sanders would have done ?
Lynn brought Sanders and Mills on after 65mins yesterday , can,t see any comments on Charley but plenty on Mills mainly referring to food !
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: John C on January 12, 2014, 02:18:42 PM
I have to say I've not been that impressed by Charley, mainly because he looks like a sending off waiting to happen, but both Jason Lee and Dennis Greene (two ex centre forwards) see something in him and they know more about football than me.


Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: B Grimes on January 12, 2014, 03:20:00 PM
I seem to recall similar comments to those on Sanders being made on the Spayne terrace about 30 years ago when Chris Cook was learning the trade .
 Does anyone who went to Hednesford yesterday think the new striker did a better job than Sanders would have done ?
Lynn brought Sanders and Mills on after 65mins yesterday , can,t see any comments on Charley but plenty on Mills mainly referring to food !

Good point,made young Sanders look like Andy Carroll. Not one to rip into individuals, but he was truly shocking wasn't he?
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 12, 2014, 03:27:59 PM
How's Jordan Nuttell getting on at Town?
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: cookie on January 13, 2014, 10:33:21 AM
Brilliant answer from from Maxross! You have to give these kids time ...what is the point of having an excellent youth system if we don't nurture them through gradually. If Charlie makes it in the future and we let him go for nothing the flak will fly ...I was given three or four years, the lads not taking any money from the club yet comes in for abuse week in week out. Give him a break!

Excellent point Pilgrim 86, I remember their being almost identical comments on here about Elding when he was in a similar position at Boston in the late 90's/early 2000's.  What people need to remember about Sanders (and other youth players) is that they are young, and that young players simply don't come out of the youth setup as the finished article.  That is the case everywhere, even the premiership, even the bundesliga (who have a great record in developing young talent). They develop through playing games.  Of course the key thing is that these players have potential.  Hopefully a decent spell getting game time at Kings Lynn will help develop that potential and bring him closer to being a useful first team player next season.

What I object to is the lack of encouragement they receive.  We've got a youth setup to be proud of which regularly develops players with the potential to be placed in our squad by several different managers now.  How about a bit of understanding and encouragement? Young people make mistakes, it's how they learn, but with nurture and clever use of the loan system for them to gain experimence, we could have a regular source of decent standard squad players or better.




Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: Artemis on January 13, 2014, 11:44:06 AM
Brilliant answer from from Maxross! You have to give these kids time ...what is the point of having an excellent youth system if we don't nurture them through gradually. If Charlie makes it in the future and we let him go for nothing the flak will fly ...I was given three or four years, the lads not taking any money from the club yet comes in for abuse week in week out. Give him a break!

Excellent point Pilgrim 86, I remember there being almost identical comments on here about Elding when he was in a similar position at Boston in the late 90's/early 2000's.  What people need to remember about Sanders (and other youth players) is that they are young, and that young players simply don't come out of the youth setup as the finished article.  That is the case everywhere, even the premiership, even the bundesliga (who have a great record in developing young talent). They develop through playing games.  Of course the key thing is that these players have potential.  Hopefully a decent spell getting game time at Kings Lynn will help develop that potential and bring him closer to being a useful first team player next season.

What I object to is the lack of encouragement they receive.  We've got a youth setup to be proud of which regularly develops players with the potential to be placed in our squad by several different managers now.  How about a bit of understanding and encouragement? Young people make mistakes, it's how they learn, but with nurture and clever use of the loan system for them to gain experience, we could have a regular source of decent standard squad players or better.

Well said.
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: howmanynames2pick on January 13, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Brilliant answer from from Maxross! You have to give these kids time ...what is the point of having an excellent youth system if we don't nurture them through gradually. If Charlie makes it in the future and we let him go for nothing the flak will fly ...I was given three or four years, the lads not taking any money from the club yet comes in for abuse week in week out. Give him a break!

Excellent point Pilgrim 86, I remember there being almost identical comments on here about Elding when he was in a similar position at Boston in the late 90's/early 2000's.  What people need to remember about Sanders (and other youth players) is that they are young, and that young players simply don't come out of the youth setup as the finished article.  That is the case everywhere, even the premiership, even the bundesliga (who have a great record in developing young talent). They develop through playing games.  Of course the key thing is that these players have potential.  Hopefully a decent spell getting game time at Kings Lynn will help develop that potential and bring him closer to being a useful first team player next season.

What I object to is the lack of encouragement they receive.  We've got a youth setup to be proud of which regularly develops players with the potential to be placed in our squad by several different managers now.  How about a bit of understanding and encouragement? Young people make mistakes, it's how they learn, but with nurture and clever use of the loan system for them to gain experience, we could have a regular source of decent standard squad players or better.

Well said.
any chance of printing a few off and handing them out before the game ?
Title: Re: Charlie Sanders
Post by: green hats mate on January 25, 2014, 09:04:49 PM
Scored for Lynn today.