Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: spannerman on January 07, 2017, 05:38:54 PM
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We are Desperate for a striker,hope we get one by next week and hope next weeks ref does not come on the away bus again ?
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Bit more quality needed in attack and central defence maybe.
And it appears positional experiments have come to nought :-\
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We are Desperate for a striker,hope we get one by next week and hope next weeks ref does not come on the away bus again ?
it showed today that some of our players are very inexperienced we didn't stop when we got pulled back just tried to carry on and loose the ball. Rollins especially. Danny Lloyd for them a good example of how to win free kicks and get people booked. It's not cheating just making the most of a situation
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100% gutted for our brilliant new manager.
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We are Desperate for a striker,hope we get one by next week and hope next weeks ref does not come on the away bus again ?
Mr Massey simply hates Boston United,he always has a poor game when he refs us.
He has a habit of sending our players off, Maguire against Kettering FA CUP, and today, this poor excuse of a ref blatantly is always biased towards our opposition.
Why has none of our directors not reported this game spoiler to the FA is beyond me.
I think he has a big chip on his shoulder,about being not as good as his wife at refereeing.
But we do really need some quality up front, and what has happened to St Juste,is he injured or away on international duty again?
Good effort though today from everyone, early days still so I am not going to criticize.
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You can't really complain about a referee just because you think he's biased. I was talking to a Stockport fan on the way out and he thought the referee was rubbish as well. It's just the standard of referee we get at this level. Adam Murray did mention it after the game that the standard of referee in our league wasn't good
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It is quite amusing though that the people around me know I go to all home and away games and before kick off ask me what the referee is like and I'm mostly right with my Answers. Believe it or not there are a few half decent ones but I mostly see them at away games. The local ones we get at least 5 times a year each do seem to be the worst though
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No complaints from me, Stockport by far the better team, we seriously lacked someone up front today, far too lightweight. Think Adam will be busy on the phone this week trying to get somebody in, as an aside nice to see a decent away following who made some noise, sang the whole of the game, credit to them.
We Are Boston.
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You can't really complain about a referee just because you think he's biased. I was talking to a Stockport fan on the way out and he thought the referee was rubbish as well. It's just the standard of referee we get at this level. Adam Murray did mention it after the game that the standard of referee in our league wasn't good
I am not complaining because he his biased, but because he his rubbish and always has been,I have never seen him put in a decent performance.
Last season when he officiated one of our home games,the linesman on our side,said he tries to avoid being at the same games as him.
I have a friend who refs in the level below us, and he told me he has run the line for Massey and would not do it again, he was told off by Massey for flagging up free kick's, he said you do as your told I am the man in charge not you.
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Doesn't it say it all when we play an injury prone aging CB up front, over two actual strikers ? Without the presence of Smith i cannot see where the goals are going to come from to beat these top half teams. Think we need to get two proven goal scorers in to be honest, but at this stage of the season, where i do not know. We always play good passing football, that has always been the Boston way, and it sounds like defensively and going forward we have improved quite a bit, it's just this final third as it has been all season that needs sorting. If we get that sorted asap then we can still make a top ten finish. With some very tough games coming up, it's imperative we get these players in.
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We are Desperate for a striker,hope we get one by next week and hope next weeks ref does not come on the away bus again ?
Mr Massey simply hates Boston United,he always has a poor game when he refs us.
He has a habit of sending our players off, Maguire against Kettering FA CUP, and today, this poor excuse of a ref blatantly is always biased towards our opposition.
Why has none of our directors not reported this game spoiler to the FA is beyond me.
I think he has a big chip on his shoulder,about being not as good as his wife at refereeing.
But we do really need some quality up front, and what has happened to St Juste,is he injured or away on international duty again?
Good effort though today from everyone, early days still so I am not going to criticize.
the ref was poor today, but we were second best throughout. I honestly can't see how we can complain about the result with no shots on target. The highlight for me was watching Gregg Smith take his place up the Town End terrace. That's what non league football is about.
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What position did Hilliard take up ?
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What position did Hilliard take up ?
The bench in the second half !!!!!
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Shdnt have asked .. :-X
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Walking out YS car park after the match and got debating the referee's performance. I was with three lads then along comes a Stockport fan and started on me, shit team etc I said had Jay gone t the ground twice when he was one on one and had his shirt pulled they would have lost two players. He then decides to main about the tackle our number 4 did so be sent off, referee seems the foul was by your player and ours just moaned about it. The bloke then crosses the road and starts giving me abuse and calling me names as well as offering to put my lights out.I tried to ask him why he was getting verbal and abusive when I was just debit referee's performance but he carried on and called me a coward, said who's the coward? You crossed the road and started abusing me (all this while he was holding the hand of his 4-year-old kid) he just got louder and more abusive so I just said yeah well hope you get a sodding puncture in the middle of nowhere and are stuck for days goodbye. Pratt .. They were shirt pulling pushing us over or dragging us down in the area all game but he says the ref had a good game so must be me then.
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Good you kept your temper crazy Neil, it does show what sort of person he is to do that in front of his young child, obviously a mindless thug,with no respect for you or his child.
We all come across these idiots in life, they are just not raised properly with no family values.
Chin up matey tomorrow is another day.
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100% gutted for our brilliant new manager.
Why is he brilliant ?
TEP
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100% gutted for our brilliant new manager.
Why is he brilliant ?
TEP
I believe it's an ironic or sarcastic quote and play on the word brilliant, as used by another poster when describing Adam Murray at a very early stage in his tenure.
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What did you all make of AM interview on radio Lincs?
I think he is really level headed and realist, I know its all been said before, but DG has truly left Adam and the chairman with a major problem.
How the hell is he going to get rid of the players that are basically not up to it.
This is going to be a costly affair me thinks.
But there is going to be changes for sure, and AM is not a person who takes prisoners.
I don't think he was impressed with Mr Massey,but I would imagine most manager's in this league think that.
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What did you all make of AM interview on radio Lincs?
I think he is really level headed and realist, I know its all been said before, but DG has truly left Adam and the chairman with a major problem.
How the hell is he going to get rid of the players that are basically not up to it.
This is going to be a costly affair me thinks.
But there is going to be changes for sure, and AM is not a person who takes prisoners.
I don't think he was impressed with Mr Massey,but I would imagine most manager's in this league think that.
I agree about AM. He certainly seems to have an intelligent opinion of this level of football, and I like his approach, but yes, you're right, he does have a headache with so many injured and or substandard players in his squad. But, if he's done his homework, he would have known that when he took the job on. It's probably fair to say that at interview these questions would have been raised, and I would likely guess that he was told he could bring in limited players of his own choosing, and get rid of some non contract costs, in order to avoid relegation. The sensible approach would then be to have a summer clear out, having identified his own targets in the meantime, so he can shape his own team in the summer, but probably not before, making do for the time being.
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Brought on 3 subs....all DG players
Complained about ref (quite rightly)
Complained about pitch
Played a CH up front...
Still havent won at home on a Saturday.
Not much changed ....
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Yeah they will soon be calling for his sacking.
Lets look on the positive bright side then.
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Brought on 3 subs....all DG players
Complained about ref (quite rightly)
Complained about pitch
Played a CH up front...
Still havent won at home on a Saturday.
Not much changed ....
no midgets yet!!!!!!!
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No body from Sunderland yet LOL 😁
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I've not managed to attend a game for a while now, but from what i am seeing on the match highlights, from the post match interviews and from fellow fans feedback, i think we have a decent manager who we can only judge fully from the beginning of next season. Any signings he brings in between now and next season will give us more of a clue, but so far, so good as yesterday was always going to end with little points given the fact that they were on form, we were missing our key man, and we had no clear back up in the way of a half decent striker.
But as fans, we now need to get away from this obsession about what the ex manager is saying on twitter for example, let him get on with it. For any of us to go screen grabbing and posting what is said, doesn't make any of us any better surely ? Rise above it, show some class and move forward, not backwards. I don't want to be making a dig at anyone, life is to short, but the message has to be put out that now is the time to let things be. I couldn't care less about what he, the ex manager, thinks of us. We are in a new chapter now and it is this solely which we must focus on and get this team rising up the league.
Hands up, i backed the old manager in the past, but now, i couldn't care less as i say, we need to all move on.
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Think it exposed how badly short we are going forwards without Smith.
Aimless balls to nobody were all we really offered, their keeper din't make a save and their defence dealt easily with what we offered.
They had a decent outlet up top and warranted the win but the 1st goal was poor in that we gave it away casually and they broke and he scored at the near post when we should be stopping that. The 2nd one I'm not fussed about as we threw men forwards to try and get a draw.
Hopefully we can get someone in for Saturday or it could be another long 90mins against another solid side (who especially don't concede many). I'm not judging AM properly until he gets his men in, think we're right to try and concentrate on not conceding and hoping to grab something at the other end.
Gonna be a month of ugly scraps and perhaps few points I think but got to back the side and ensure we don't get sucked back in after doing a decent job over Xmas against sides we should be beating.
Also, get Fairhurst and Colley off the wage bill ASAP. If they can#t get a gig when they're the only 2 strikers then they never will. Time to cut our losses and free up some money on lads who will offer more of a threat.... why on earth did we let Harry Limb go? Not saying he's the answer but can't have done any worse and a few games this year would toughen him up and be invaluable for his development.
On a side note, nice to see some away fans actually give it a go for the majority of the game. We've had 'large' supports here before who contribute next to nothing to the atmosphere, Aside from FCUM and Lowestoft once and Barrow once, away atmospheres like that have been very thin on the ground here last 2-3 years
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Respect to Kane Felix, he could easily have taken the shot for their last goal but you could see he didn't want to score against us on his first return.
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There hasn't been a clean sheet for 3 months
Its not just the attack which needs attention ..
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100% gutted for our brilliant new manager.
Why is he brilliant ?
TEP
I believe it's an ironic or sarcastic quote and play on the word brilliant, as used by another poster when describing Adam Murray at a very early stage in his tenure.
I was not being sarcastic so stop looking for negatives all the time where there are positive posts! Until Saturday he had 4 games and no defeats. Adam Murray IS a good manager and will be pushing BUFC for promotion next season.
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the first goal was a) sloppy - we gave it away high up the park and were out of our defensive shape b) unlucky as the shot was going across the keeper and unfortunately josh got across and a nick off his studs deflected it inside the near post. a combination of unfortunate events which the keeper eludes to in his post match interview
as a new convert to BUFC I've been very impressed with the organisation and shape of the team. sure we need new signings but I reckon that if we'd had Gregg we'd have got a point on Saturday
I don't think the manager is daft. he'll know we need a target man and hope the gets a proper one. problem I guess though is decent target men will cost 500 a week and we may not have that spare budget right now with so many contracts
that will be different next season so look forward with optimism. there is much to smile about. the players are giving 100% and that's all we fans can ask
disappointed with the ref though. seemed to change at half time. swearing seemed ok first half but not second. little fella with a chip on his shoulder in my view. very very poor. the fella at gainsborough was bad but this one was miles worse
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There hasn't been a clean sheet for 3 months
Its not just the attack which needs attention ..
In the 5 matches AM has been here we have conceded 6 goals , equal to 50 goals a season . Pre AM the rate we were conceding goals was equal to 90 goals a season . I think that is a remarkable turnaround .
Stags fans praised his defending organising and it looks fully justified .
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No body from Sunderland yet LOL 😁
Fairly impressed with Fitzpatrick on Saturday , If AM can find loans the quality of those from Sunderland
I will be impressed .
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100% gutted for our brilliant new manager.
Why is he brilliant ?
TEP
I believe it's an ironic or sarcastic quote and play on the word brilliant, as used by another poster when describing Adam Murray at a very early stage in his tenure.
I was not being sarcastic so stop looking for negatives all the time where there are positive posts! Until Saturday he had 4 games and no defeats. Adam Murray IS a good manager and will be pushing BUFC for promotion next season.
TEP was entitled to question the statement . As I mention in another post his defensive organising is impressive , apart from that we have little to judge him on due to injuries and lack of quality players .
Time to judge will be next season when he is working with his own signings .
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Yes improved ,but a few noughts conceded wouldnt go amiss 😶
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100% gutted for our brilliant new manager.
Why is he brilliant ?
TEP
I believe it's an ironic or sarcastic quote and play on the word brilliant, as used by another poster when describing Adam Murray at a very early stage in his tenure.
I was not being sarcastic so stop looking for negatives all the time where there are positive posts! Until Saturday he had 4 games and no defeats. Adam Murray IS a good manager and will be pushing BUFC for promotion next season.
TEP was entitled to question the statement . As I mention in another post his defensive organising is impressive , apart from that we have little to judge him on due to injuries and lack of quality players .
Time to judge will be next season when he is working with his own signings .
sorry, i didn't mean to offend you with my remark. i agree with your comments regarding AM, he has done and said the right things so far for me also.
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everyone is entitled to their opinion chaps. that's why we love the beautiful game so much. it's all about opinions
so far based on what i've seen we are solid but need to be more expansive. we've not had a lot of good luck recently either and the playing surface being so poor doesn't help
AM has his hands tied this season but i reckon he'll get it right next season and is the right man for the job
looking forward to a positive finish to this season and hitting the ground running next
all the best to BUFC fans, players, management and staff and a happy new year to you all
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everyone is entitled to their opinion chaps. that's why we love the beautiful game so much. it's all about opinions
so far based on what i've seen we are solid but need to be more expansive. we've not had a lot of good luck recently either and the playing surface being so poor doesn't help
AM has his hands tied this season but i reckon he'll get it right next season and is the right man for the job
looking forward to a positive finish to this season and hitting the ground running next
all the best to BUFC fans, players, management and staff and a happy new year to you all
Thanks t&g , always enjoyed your programmes on telly . :)
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I always thought Tom, got the tough end of the deal lol
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If we got shut of Fairhurst and Colley we could probably afford £500p/w on a good striker....
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If we got shut of Fairhurst and Colley we could probably afford £500p/w on a good striker....
Do they get £250 a week each ? Would be interested to see the list of salary payments if you have access to them ?
TEP
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If we got shut of Fairhurst and Colley we could probably afford £500p/w on a good striker....
Do they get £250 a week each ? Would be interested to see the list of salary payments if you have access to them ?
TEP
Should it be in the public domain?
Would we give the lower earners a chance and expect higher performance every game from the big hitters??
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If we got shut of Fairhurst and Colley we could probably afford £500p/w on a good striker....
How do we get rid of Fairhurst and Colley ?
Where do we pick up proven a 20 goals+ a season Con North goal scorer for £500 /week .?
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If we got shut of Fairhurst and Colley we could probably afford £500p/w on a good striker....
How do we get rid of Fairhurst and Colley ?
Where do we pick up proven a 20 goals+ a season Con North goal scorer for £500 /week .?
Not sure about the getting rid bit, but picking up a 'proven goalscorer' won't happen for that price, so we probably need to gamble on an unproven (put possibly great) Conf North goalscorer much as we did with Dayle... which is why we need to invest time in scouting.
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As has been said Fairhurst is under contract so we can't just 'get rid of him'.
He's not had a bad goal scoring record at other clubs in the past. However he's had an indifferent season so far for us being injured for a large part of the season and it's also been said that he's not kept himself fully fit and it seemed that he fell out with Dennis Greene.
With Colley our only other striker. Our best bet it for Adam Murray to give Fairhurst a chance, get fully fit and produce what he is capable of. If he's fit enough, start him in the middle of a front 3 on Saturday with Rollins and Chippendale or Marshall.
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I agree Lee, give Wade a chance and see how he goes, if he doesn't cut it then let him go or play in the development league.
I think we need to get off these two players backs and try and support and push them on.
I agree that Dennis Green probably had a big fall out with Wade and that may have knocked his confidence and self belief.
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Fairhurst has a decent pedigree and so we'd be daft to bin him without giving him a chance I reckon
Having a smaller fella up there may also make us play more 'joined up' football too as we see to go too long too early too often
For Saturday, assuming Josh R is suspended I'd go with:
Durrant
Thomas Batchelor Gatter Gordon
Fitzpatrick Clarke Hilliard
Marshall Fairhurst Rollins
Still leaves a decent (ish) bench of Colley, Chippendale, St Juste (if fit) Clappison plus one other
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Give Fairhurst a chance? 18 appearances (10 starts), 1 goal... and scoring that goal he got injured.
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Fairhurst has a decent pedigree and so we'd be daft to bin him without giving him a chance I reckon
Having a smaller fella up there may also make us play more 'joined up' football too as we see to go too long too early too often
For Saturday, assuming Josh R is suspended I'd go with:
Durrant
Thomas Batchelor Gatter Gordon
Fitzpatrick Clarke Hilliard
Marshall Fairhurst Rollins
Still leaves a decent (ish) bench of Colley, Chippendale, St Juste (if fit) Clappison plus one other
IMO Fairhurst,just like Colley,has had many chances to impress....without any success by either player.....Fairhurst {to be errrr...fair } may fair better in midfield...he is certainly not a proven striker at this level...
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I may be wrong but I thought that the suspension for league game red cards begins 7 days after the date of sending off, so Robinson could be available to play against Chorley.
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Coach Lewis said at end of commentary on Sat that there would be a few trialists in upcoming U21 game , whenever that is ..
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If you check out Wikipedia then it shows Fairhurst as being quite prolific at the level above ours between 2011 and 2015. So the question is, how do Boston get the best out of him? At 27 he should be in the peak of his career. Here's also what it says about him:
'Fairhurst is an energetic, creative forward, who is just as effective with either foot and he is a versatile attacker, capable of playing anywhere along the front line, as a striker, supporting forward, or even as a winger. he's even been deployed in a deeper, more creative role, as an attacking midfielder because of his passing ability. Fairhurst is renowned for scoring goals inside the area. Fairhurst has also been praised for his work-rate and stamina'
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If you check out Wikipedia then it shows Fairhurst as being quite prolific at the level above ours between 2011 and 2015. So the question is, how do Boston get the best out of him? At 27 he should be in the peak of his career. Here's also what it says about him:
'Fairhurst is an energetic, creative forward, who is just as effective with either foot and he is a versatile attacker, capable of playing anywhere along the front line, as a striker, supporting forward, or even as a winger. he's even been deployed in a deeper, more creative role, as an attacking midfielder because of his passing ability. Fairhurst is renowned for scoring goals inside the area. Fairhurst has also been praised for his work-rate and stamina'
who's the author? Mr W Fairhurst per chance?!?!?!?
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I may be wrong but I thought that the suspension for league game red cards begins 7 days after the date of sending off, so Robinson could be available to play against Chorley.
It changed in the summer, suspensions start from the next game.
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Fairhurst....as you know i don't like lamin or waide but out of the two, fairhurst has more pedigree. Having said this i think fairhursts best days are gone. Too many injuries and over weight, like i said before a journeyman.
I think we would.do better by promoting one of the under 21's into the side, we cant do much worse. This way we dont need to panic by and can wait until lamin and waises contract ends - boston should be asking for their money back the way they have played. Now then, lamin colley....ive never watched anyone with so much lack of interest and energy. I dont know what it is about him, i thibk what annoys me is this season hes had such an opportunity to prove himself, but if i can see that he isnt interest what does adam think? well i know this now by playing a ch up front