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The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: wismo on February 04, 2023, 04:31:35 PM

Title: Alfreton
Post by: wismo on February 04, 2023, 04:31:35 PM
Here we go again
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Post by: Batistuta on February 04, 2023, 04:34:29 PM
Not surprised at all, we're rubbish. That's putting it gently too.
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Post by: Ernie100 on February 04, 2023, 04:55:19 PM
Lost 3-1  NPL here we come :'(
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Post by: Johnny Pilgrim on February 04, 2023, 05:22:16 PM
One win in 13 games now, 23 points lost from winning positions this season.
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Post by: wismo on February 04, 2023, 05:34:28 PM
‘Be careful what you wish for.’ Famous last words. Has it all gone wrong from the sacking of Elliott. At least he mostly brought in decent loan players.
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Post by: Uncertain Corridor on February 04, 2023, 05:40:11 PM
Indeed it has. The crowd turned against him when we dropped out of the play offs. He was very hard done to and that’s how he felt. Now look. We’d do well to have him now…
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Post by: wismo on February 04, 2023, 05:42:10 PM
Just listened to Culverhouse interview. He’s lost the plot. ‘We’re going to get out of trouble by working hard’
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Post by: copper89 on February 04, 2023, 05:50:26 PM
Long gone is the cheery bloke he's now done to single word answers and with it an abrasive demeanour. Don't think he has any answers for our dismal situation.
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Post by: Burgh Boy on February 04, 2023, 06:21:52 PM
Sarah & Andrea: "Time to say Goodbye". How can this farce be allowed to continue? I suppose it is the pay off amount that will be contractually due to Mr Culverhouse for the early termination of his management.
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Post by: Uncertain Corridor on February 04, 2023, 07:59:08 PM
Didn’t go today. How was the effort or desire?
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Post by: Dave H on February 04, 2023, 08:36:03 PM
Didn’t go today. How was the effort or desire?
However gutted I am at the result I think there was plenty of desire and effort however the usual mistakes you can't afford to make in this league reared their head.
Firstly we started on top and deserved to take the lead, though I can't  see why Zak dived in on a long ball to his blind side giving away a penalty that the ref hesitated to give. Seemed soft , player was going no where.
After the Tuesday night bombardment the long throw in that landed directly to Thewlis a yard out showed how we struggle to deal with these balls for their 2nd goal. Shame Scott Garner retired cos we needed him today.
Unfortunately the amount of corners we conceded in the second half meant that Thewlis was able to head in his second. Game over , though of course we had 2 shots against the post , 1 off the line and Willis making a couple of great saves just to give us false hope.
On another day we'd have scored more but when you give the opposition 2/3 goals every match defeat is inevitable
3 away coaches today hopefully the players start to respond to this support v Darlo , Chester & Brackley
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Post by: oxo on February 04, 2023, 09:23:07 PM
We just can't defend simple as. Honestly thought we were a tad unlucky with the efforts hitting the posts and scrambled of their line, also thought there was plenty of effort today but Zac was so unlucky to give away the penalty attempting to clear and not aware the player steaming in on his blind side and connecting with him at the same time as the ball, no intent whatsoever. It's awful these days when even when we score first it does little to lift the spirits of the fans it's as though we know what will happen which is so sad. Our Chairman and vice Chairman stood with the wonderful supporters and you could see the hurt in their faces. I am sure they will do all in their power to make things turn round but how I dont know.  UTP
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Post by: Winging It on February 04, 2023, 10:56:44 PM
‘Be careful what you wish for.’ Famous last words. Has it all gone wrong from the sacking of Elliott. At least he mostly brought in decent loan players.
Ii know this sentiment won't go down well with a few on here, but it has to said,  it all went wrong the day the 'kno*head army' had their spats with Greene. Since then we have not seen any decent flowing football, not even under Elliott.
I am also bemused at several fans who are now turning on the chairman, after all he has done. If they force him out in the same way as they did Greene then we have no club, simple as.

I get that fans get angry when things are not as they expect, but we still need to be a unit as a fan base, not divided. Things are not great on the pitch, and time is ticking. I can't argue with that.
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Post by: Keynsham Pilgrim on February 05, 2023, 09:36:06 AM
Although the football was better under Greene, that last part season was terrible and he didn’t get us as close to going up as Elliott. Things deteriorated with Elliot last year due to unrealistic expectations that we simply had to turn up and we’d walk the league but we were in the play offs and so to sack then seemed premature and so it proved to be. I’d probably have given him to the end of the season and had a “taken as far as he could” mutual parting.

My only criticism of the chairman is some of his choices in managers (Drury, Lee and Cox to some extent although at the time I’d have appointed Cox too). The calling for a new board/owner by some I have seen is incredibly disrespectful when looking at where we were when the Chestnuts took over and making money from commercial ventures to then invest is a good thing and not the club 85 is full and that is all that matters view that some have of the chairman.

Notwithstanding all that, we’re in the crap and don’t look like getting out of it any time soon. This run until mid-March could sink us before we start to play the teams around us again.
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Post by: Dipdodah on February 05, 2023, 12:31:14 PM
The calling of the chairman is being made by the usual suspects.  The same minority that called for the heads of Greene, Elliot, Cox etc. Stability is the only way we are going to get through this.

My opinion is that we need Pearson back. We have never had a fully fit back line. On paper our back line ( including Pearson ) should be sufficient.

I'm afraid the squad we have, is what we are stuck with.  The old adage " build from the back seems to be overlooked "

Keep supporting them, because calling for heads is not doing the team's confidence any good.
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Post by: miele on February 05, 2023, 12:32:38 PM
We just can't defend simple as. Honestly thought we were a tad unlucky with the efforts hitting the posts and scrambled of their line, also thought there was plenty of effort today but Zac was so unlucky to give away the penalty attempting to clear and not aware the player steaming in on his blind side and connecting with him at the same time as the ball, no intent whatsoever. It's awful these days when even when we score first it does little to lift the spirits of the fans it's as though we know what will happen which is so sad. Our Chairman and vice Chairman stood with the wonderful supporters and you could see the hurt in their faces. I am sure they will do all in their power to make things turn round but how I dont know.  UTP
me granndad went to boston town it was not the best of games but wot he liked about town they watch out for each other and defend in numbers but sadly they never went forward in numbers if it makes sence
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Post by: Eddie Killick on February 05, 2023, 01:47:40 PM
Can anyone tell me why we signed Bastock as one of the management team? Seems to have done nothing to improve our defence tactics. Is he just a waste of money?
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Post by: Ernie100 on February 05, 2023, 05:33:22 PM
Can anyone tell me why we signed Bastock as one of the management team? Seems to have done nothing to improve our defence tactics. Is he just a waste of money?


He came as the package with Ian Culverhouse as his assistant manager, what would you want/like him to do? considering he is only his assistant and not the boss!
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Post by: beefpilgrim on February 05, 2023, 10:24:40 PM
The calling of the chairman is being made by the usual suspects.  The same minority that called for the heads of Greene, Elliot, Cox etc. Stability is the only way we are going to get through this.

My opinion is that we need Pearson back. We have never had a fully fit back line. On paper our back line ( including Pearson ) should be sufficient.

I'm afraid the squad we have, is what we are stuck with.  The old adage " build from the back seems to be overlooked "

Keep supporting them, because calling for heads is not doing the team's confidence any good.
My God what a sensible post this is.
I'm sick of the vitriol that comes from some fans of the club.
It's all about finger pointing and blame finding.
To now blame the chairman is ridiculous.
It's a tough time but fans should be pulling together not ripping everything to bits.
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Post by: Uncertain Corridor on February 06, 2023, 09:21:20 AM
Agree with all of  that. What a difficult position David and Neil are in. Time is running out to turn it around. Do they stick with what we have? See how performances are over the next 2 games? Identify who could get us out of this (no doubt with incentives) in the meantime if those 2 performances are poor?

The time for criticism of the staff has gone. Support is needed. However, what do the board do to give us the best chance of beating relegation? This is where the best leaders thrive but it’s not easy.

What would you do?

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Post by: Blue is the Colour on February 06, 2023, 10:57:30 AM
When you already have the best Chairman in the history of non league football, what do others expect if he was to depart?

Legend, and the envy of others all over the Country.
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Post by: lonegunman on February 06, 2023, 02:59:47 PM
Spot on, without DN we would have nothing.
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Post by: Pete Brooksbank on February 06, 2023, 03:01:32 PM
David Newton is a fine custodian of Boston United. He's pulled us back from the brink of oblivion and set us up for success - what's been happening on the pitch this season is entirely down to shoddy recruitment and piss poor managerial acumen. That's not his fault per se, although I recognise that he obviously appointed these people. He hasn't got every decision right but no-one ever will. We're in good hands and we are set up to be successful in the future - this season has just been an unmitigated disaster for other reasons.
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Post by: Uncertain Corridor on February 06, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
100% agree but what do you think he should do about the current situation?
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Post by: Pete Brooksbank on February 06, 2023, 03:32:34 PM
I genuinely don't know what we can do to fix this.

Normally I have a few opinions but right now I'm at a complete loss.
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Post by: Oakham Pilgrim on February 06, 2023, 04:45:09 PM
I agree, Pete, that I don't know what should happen. Before the Kettering game I thought that things were showing signs of coming together. And the first hour or so there suggested it was, 2-0 up and defending well against hoofball and throwball tactics on a dreadful pitch. But we know what's happened since. Whatever we do, the idiots mustn't be allowed to p*ss off DN and NK after what they've done for us.
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Post by: oxo on February 06, 2023, 06:50:13 PM
I agree, Pete, that I don't know what should happen. Before the Kettering game I thought that things were showing signs of coming together. And the first hour or so there suggested it was, 2-0 up and defending well against hoofball and throwball tactics on a dreadful pitch. But we know what's happened since. Whatever we do, the idiots mustn't be allowed to p*ss off DN and NK after what they've done for us.


Quite right David I will defend our Board to the ends of the earth against some of the idiots on another site. Although I only got involved supporting Boston United 30 years ago I was totally involved during the club being on very edge and have real first hand knowledge of just what David and Neil did for this club, its fans, and the people of Boston. In fairness the majority of supporters have been truly magnificent and it is important we stay together and give whoever the management is our full support.  UTP
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Post by: miele on February 08, 2023, 02:21:10 PM
We got to see this season out for sour we will stay up if we all let people get on with there jobs I cant  SEE any so called supporter doing any better so lets all shut up and put up with what we have WE WILL BE FINE
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Post by: Pilgrim86 on February 08, 2023, 05:59:24 PM
Can anyone tell me why we signed Bastock as one of the management team? Seems to have done nothing to improve our defence tactics. Is he just a waste of money?


What makes you think he is the defensive coach? He is the goalkeeping coach (naturally) in the pre-match warm-ups and as he runs (if it's still going) a goalkeeping school, I assume he does it at training too. Culverhouse himself was a centre half, so I think the defensive buck stops with him.
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Post by: Pete Brooksbank on February 08, 2023, 07:46:27 PM
I think goalkeeping coaches have an important role to play in the entire back unit in fairness, at least in terms of working with the defence on set pieces and to cut out daft errors and miscommunication. And when Bazza approached the fans on Saturday he was protesting that they give players instructions to defend set pieces and they're not being followed. But yeah, probably unfair to single him out for our current woes - truth is, all three of them are responsible and all three of them, sadly, simply haven't been anywhere near good enough.... yet!!
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Post by: York Street Pilgrim on February 09, 2023, 07:32:33 AM
Culverhouse himself was a centre half, so I think the defensive buck stops with him.

No, he wasn't. He was a right back. But still a defender.