Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: dt woodhall on September 05, 2012, 10:48:08 AM
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interesting recent posts and good comments from lots of people.
However -- it seems after 6 games our season is fast approching over unless David Newton actually admits he got it wrong to give Jason another season in charge. I have nothing against Jason-- he was a cracking player, but he just does not seem to be manager material.
Look at our next 5 league games
away at Colwyn Bay, Bradford PA, and FC Halifax
home against Chester and Gainsboro
with games against Worcester, Stalybridge, and Guiseley following shortly.
In our present form cant see many points coming from that lot.
The chairman is very astute and can see that gates will quickly fall. He must act and clear out all the management team asap, because this can quickly become a scrap at the bottom of the league.
How about a player manager-- and before GHM says who- thats not my problem its down to the chairman. I cannot believe there is no one out there that would love the chance to start their managerial career at a club like Boston Utd.
BUT HE MUST ACT NOW
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Think DN Would act if gates went below say 875 . . But no use waiting for Chester home say . Punters need a new impetus .
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What I can't get my head around is tne Lee Cannoville situation in the summer.Did Jason want him to be with him.If this was the case surely this was his decision not David Newton or the Boards.Lee's contract was not renewed so not only has Jason lost his right hand man ,he lost a very good player who no doubt would be in the team at the moment either at centre half or right back.Now we have to pay for a replacement player and also a non playing assistant.The defence is sorely missing the experience Canners would have given it.
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With the Malkinsons s****ing the club with the extortionate rent the club can't afford to employ anyone better than JL or bring in any better players.
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Ken don't need to look very hard to find anybody better than JL! What's the point of having 2/3 managers on the bench?This season and last season proves its not worth the money.Fitness coach must go because last season I noticed even he was giving orders from the side! The players might aswell listen the the happy clappers orders than the FC! I would sack Lee and put Hyde in charge.If Hyde not happy he could resign and not cost the club anything.If Hyde stays bring Nuttell in and he we sort them out in the changing room!!!
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U could clear JL-GH-IF -Miller & another liteweight . . bring in a central def P/M , wide def ,& a strong utility MF . .and still have a credit of 2 wages .
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interesting recent posts and good comments from lots of people.
However -- it seems after 6 games our season is fast approching over unless David Newton actually admits he got it wrong to give Jason another season in charge. I have nothing against Jason-- he was a cracking player, but he just does not seem to be manager material.
Look at our next 5 league games
away at Colwyn Bay, Bradford PA, and FC Halifax
home against Chester and Gainsboro
with games against Worcester, Stalybridge, and Guiseley following shortly.
In our present form cant see many points coming from that lot.
The chairman is very astute and can see that gates will quickly fall. He must act and clear out all the management team asap, because this can quickly become a scrap at the bottom of the league.
How about a player manager-- and before GHM says who- thats not my problem its down to the chairman. I cannot believe there is no one out there that would love the chance to start their managerial career at a club like Boston Utd.
BUT HE MUST ACT NOW
Someone like erm!!! I know Jason Lee.
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So is the fitness coach shagging your missus kingofnaves?! :o
I can't think of any other reason why you've got it in for him so badly. ;D
I believe one of the major tenets of Total Football is to maximise athletic capacity with 100% fitness. Every manouvre makes the most effective use of pitch-space and player energy. Just the sort of thing a fitness coach can give instructions on during a game.
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Is this a new Ken Fox ?
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So is the fitness coach shagging your missus kingofnaves?! :o
I can't think of any other reason why you've got it in for him so badly. ;D
I believe one of the major tenets of Total Football is to maximise athletic capacity with 100% fitness. Every manouvre makes the most effective use of pitch-space and player energy. Just the sort of thing a fitness coach can give instructions on during a game.
Someone must have hacked Ken's account. And it is not SP!
Failing that, I think Ken's knighthood should be rescinded forthwith. :bunny
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Good post S P
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Hope your "keep the Woodhall banks open " march went well today dt woodhall ,
Interesting post which I will do my best to address .
"Jason a cracking player" Hope that is not a thinly vailed reference to Jasons elbows!!!!
Next five games need a return of 10 points or Dave should be cracking the whip .
"Chairman very astute " in that case JL was the best qualified application for the job other-wise astute Dave would have not given him the job .
Look at Kens first post on here , how many times do people need reminding ?
Player-manager ? come on Dave have you been away for the last 40years ?
Name all the successful player-managers at any level over the fast 40 years .
As tash implies in his post the man to fit your criteria is already in the job .
Don,t panic about relegation dt , in most the lower leagues it will be more difficult to get demoted than promoted . Will not be surprised if at least one BSN team fails to fulfill all its fixtures this season , also expect 1or 2 teams before end of season to express wish to move down at least one-step .
Apart from Chester(and maybe Halifax) I don,t think any other team will have a desire to compete at BSP level . Not a cue for a call of "settling for mediocrity" more a call of most clubs the face financial reality in troubled times .
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looks like Ken has had a bad day at the office!
"I believe one of the major tenets of Total Football is to maximise athletic capacity with 100% fitness. Every manouvre makes the most effective use of pitch-space and player energy. Just the sort of thing a fitness coach can give instructions on during a game." IF THATS THE CASE HIS NOT DOING A VERY GOOD JOB!
how much is he costing the club?dont answer the usual crap....nothing!
get rid of two of the three and the Malkinson rent wont hurt so much!
we are little non league like team no better than Grantham Town with too many non playing staff....
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looks like Ken has had a bad day at the office!
"I believe one of the major tenets of Total Football is to maximise athletic capacity with 100% fitness. Every manouvre makes the most effective use of pitch-space and player energy. Just the sort of thing a fitness coach can give instructions on during a game." IF THATS THE CASE HIS NOT DOING A VERY GOOD JOB!
how much is he costing the club?dont answer the usual crap....nothing!
get rid of two of the three and the Malkinson rent wont hurt so much!
we are little non league like team no better than Grantham Town with too many non playing staff....
The fitness coach is NOT paid so off hand aren't the only paid non-playing staff Jason Lee, Graham Hyde, Craig Singelton, possibly Steve Welsh is on a token payment and the Blackwells?
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GHM --
If this set up stays in place we are more likely to be in the bottom ten rather than the top 10. Boston should be in the top 5 of this very average league.
Player managers like Jim Smith and Howard Wilkinson did not do a bad job if I remember correctly.
I know the rent is high, but I see loads of players in other teams who must be getting lower wages than we pay, that look much better than some of ours, and even those we have got would be much better if they were managed better.
Do you relly think we will get 10 points from the next 5 games???
I dont.
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Football is an entertainment industry which relies on delivering a quality product to attract new and impulse customers to supplement its hardcore support who follow the club no matter what.
I believe David has lost sight of the fact that in his desire to put the club on a sound footing, he must also have a structured investment to provide the quality of entertainment that casual fans desire in order for this club to move forward.
Current results suggest that this criteria is not being met,therefore a change of direction is required.Or we will have a hardcore support of 900 and more cuts.
Whether the current manager can achieve these goals is open for debate,i think personally he is a better coach than he is a manager,but to do nothing will put this club back further and increase our existing problems.
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Looks as though you are struggling to name player managers dt .
Clearly recall Jim Smith coming with majority of fan complaining "cheap option "
Can you not think out why these players you mention will not come to play for Boston for low wages ? Its not rocket sience !!!
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GHM --
If this set up stays in place we are more likely to be in the bottom ten rather than the top 10. Boston should be in the top 5 of this very average league.
Player managers like Jim Smith and Howard Wilkinson did not do a bad job if I remember correctly.
I know the rent is high, but I see loads of players in other teams who must be getting lower wages than we pay, that look much better than some of ours, and even those we have got would be much better if they were managed better.
Do you relly think we will get 10 points from the next 5 games???
I dont.
3 down 7 to go.
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GHM --
If this set up stays in place we are more likely to be in the bottom ten rather than the top 10. Boston should be in the top 5 of this very average league.
Player managers like Jim Smith and Howard Wilkinson did not do a bad job if I remember correctly.
I know the rent is high, but I see loads of players in other teams who must be getting lower wages than we pay, that look much better than some of ours, and even those we have got would be much better if they were managed better.
Do you relly think we will get 10 points from the next 5 games???
I dont.
3 down 7 to go.
6 down, 4 to go
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Games played 12 , Points 18 .
Current form : 12 points in last 6 games ;
If this form is mantained we will finish the season on 78 points .
78 points last season would have been a comfortable 3rd place finish .
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It won't be maintained! Stop playing with numbers GHM! You look like one of those silly politicians trying to fiddle the numbers!
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Your maybe right KON , The object of the post is to please the happy clappers and depress the moaners , looks as though it may be working !!!
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interesting recent posts and good comments from lots of people.
However -- it seems after 6 games our season is fast approching over unless David Newton actually admits he got it wrong to give Jason another season in charge. I have nothing against Jason-- he was a cracking player, but he just does not seem to be manager material.
Look at our next 5 league games
away at Colwyn Bay, Bradford PA, and FC Halifax
home against Chester and Gainsboro
with games against Worcester, Stalybridge, and Guiseley following shortly.
In our present form cant see many points coming from that lot.
The chairman is very astute and can see that gates will quickly fall. He must act and clear out all the management team asap, because this can quickly become a scrap at the bottom of the league.
How about a player manager-- and before GHM says who- thats not my problem its down to the chairman. I cannot believe there is no one out there that would love the chance to start their managerial career at a club like Boston Utd.
BUT HE MUST ACT NOW
We have now played 4 5 out of the 5 games you mention and have taken 9 12 points from 12 15 not a bad return, don't you think?
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interesting recent posts and good comments from lots of people.
However -- it seems after 6 games our season is fast approching over unless David Newton actually admits he got it wrong to give Jason another season in charge. I have nothing against Jason-- he was a cracking player, but he just does not seem to be manager material.
Look at our next 5 league games
away at Colwyn Bay, Bradford PA, and FC Halifax
home against Chester and Gainsboro
with games against Worcester, Stalybridge, and Guiseley following shortly.
In our present form cant see many points coming from that lot.
The chairman is very astute and can see that gates will quickly fall. He must act and clear out all the management team asap, because this can quickly become a scrap at the bottom of the league.
How about a player manager-- and before GHM says who- thats not my problem its down to the chairman. I cannot believe there is no one out there that would love the chance to start their managerial career at a club like Boston Utd.
BUT HE MUST ACT NOW
We have now played 4 5 out of the 5 games you mention and have taken 9 12 points from 12 15 not a bad return, don't you think?
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Well done Tash for reminding the doubters of their rash predictions of gloom and doom. Needless to say we won't get many of them to admit they were wrong, unless it comes with a snide "It won't be maintained".
We need to get behind United to beat Colwyn Bay in the Trophy so we are in the next round on Sat 24th Nov. Otherwise we will have 15 days with no game now that Harrogate's match on Sat 1st Dec has been postponed. Next games: -
10th Nov v Colwyn: 17th Nov v Guiseley: 20th Nov v Solihull: 5th Dec v Gloucester.
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Those that know me know I tell it as I see it. Well done to all concerned. I did not think we would get all the points from those games, and I imagine lots of other would have agreed with me.
If only we could be more consistent we could mount a serious challenge for a play off spot, but you only need to look at some of the stupid points we have dropped so far to see that mid table is probably more realistic.
The immediate problem is the effect of suspensions and injuries. I know cash is tight, but surely we need some cover in key positions as we are at bare bones, and although some of the reserve and youth team show lots of potential, they are not yet ready for the physical nature of BSN.
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Have to agree we are "bare bones" and could do with some cover at centre back and defensive midfield. Does anyone know whether Craven is going to fit either of these roles, and is he in training or recovering from injury? He is 26 so we are obviously not waiting for him to mature.
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Ever poor team has a good run during the season.I'm sure we had one last season!
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Ever poor team has a good run during the season.I'm sure we had one last season!
I was going to give you a thoughtful reply then realized it would be a waste of time, so will let others do it! :-X
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Chill out Cavalier! My only concern is we may lose Jones! I hope the money doesn't tempt him to move to the village near Pinchbeck!
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Chill out Cavalier! My only concern is we may lose Jones! I hope the money doesn't tempt him to move to the village near Pinchbeck!
Apparently they are looking at bringing in Tony Battersby from Grantham and Karl Gibbs from St Ives, no mention of Mark Jones in todays Free Press.
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Some still can,t grasp budgeting to live within your means .
Earlier in this thread (5sept) I predicted one club in the BSN will not see the season out ,
also a couple will give notice to withdraw irrespective of position in league .
Halifax who should be the second richest club in our league could only fill three places on
the bench when 7 were permitted in their cup-tie at Lincoln recently . Some fans have to
get real and accept financial restraints . We are not a rich club.
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May well be my prediction on Sept 7th of at least one club not seeing the season out is looking likely to happen sooner rather than later , RE: HISTON thread
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I don't know if anyone saw Braintree play Tranmere in the Cup on TV this week but I got the feeling there was the potential 'next' club......ie, punching above its station with small gates and a ground best suited to The Eastern Counties League. I get the feeling once they fall from the Conference it'll be a 2 or 3 league plummet before they settle. Same with Alfeton and Hyde.
I know we're a long way from being out of the woods yet financially but I've a darn sight more faith in Dave Newton than I would any of the Jonny Come Lately's who rack up at clubs at this level.......we had a taster with The McFraud's and their 'management' style, I'll take this option any day, even if it does piss me off being stuck at a level below our natural level.
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I don't know if anyone saw Braintree play Tranmere in the Cup on TV this week but I got the feeling there was the potential 'next' club......ie, punching above its station with small gates and a ground best suited to The Eastern Counties League. I get the feeling once they fall from the Conference it'll be a 2 or 3 league plummet before they settle. Same with Alfeton and Hyde.
I know we're a long way from being out of the woods yet financially but I've a darn sight more faith in Dave Newton than I would any of the Jonny Come Lately's who rack up at clubs at this level.......we had a taster with The McFraud's and their 'management' style, I'll take this option any day, even if it does piss me off being stuck at a level below our natural level.
Oh no. I can't seriously believe I am about to have a view verging on similar to the one and only N40. As it's a charity night I'm going to do both things. My pledge is lodged. N40 I agree with you. One night only. ( I think) :)
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Agreed Andy, whilst we desperately want to be successful Atleast we are looking better off the pitch.
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Agreed Andy, whilst we desperately want to be successful Atleast we are looking better off the pitch.
But are we Carl?
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Agreed Andy, whilst we desperately want to be successful Atleast we are looking better off the pitch.
But are we Carl?
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Don't spoil it. 8)
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Agreed Andy, whilst we desperately want to be successful Atleast we are looking better off the pitch.
But are we Carl?
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Compared to 6-7 year ago yes. Are we okay of the pitch is still a big no
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It as all gone so quite about the new stadium which the directors say is so badly needed to put this football club on a healthy footing, they say no news is good news, or is it? !!!!.
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Bostonshire I don't think wer'e on our own with regards still not bieng financially stable. I'd say all non-league clubs are struggling (and most league clubs too), it's just varying degrees through from clubs on the verge like Kettering and now Histon, through to clubs who probably at best break even. I'd guess we're somewhere in the middle ground, not in danger of going under but still work to do to get to that magical break even.
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Come on creamy, where have you been the last three years ?
Even Geo Osbourne could answer your question in one word !!!
RECESSION.
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Come on creamy, where have you been the last three years ?
Even Geo Osbourne could answer your question in one word !!!
RECESSION.
I've been stood alongside you GHM, could you not hear me ???,
It was D Newton himself who announced at a fans forum this year that he was debating about different locations for the proposed new stadium, this is within your RECESSION time quoted above, It is the directors who are the people who want to relocate, not the fans, I am quite happy if the club was kept at york street , a deal with the Malkinsons would suit me down to the ground, The question was asked not out of mischief, but of why it is so quite on the subject, I'm perfectly aware of the recession old chap, it effects all people, but the filthy rich and politicians.
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Exactly what I pointed out to you creamy , recession .
It effects the filthy rich and politicians as you say PLUS football clubs and their business plan .
I would prefer to stay at YS but the reality is it is not viable .
I would think a deal with Malkinson would suit Newton down to the ground .
Newton set out his plans to incorperate other business outlet/s to make it viable when the move was proposed . No it is not a mischievous question creamy but the reality is the recession is affecting all kinds of business .