boston scum

[Pete Brooksbank]

In fairness, I remember going to the Unibond Challenge Cup final in the late 90s against Trinity at Sincil Bank and, despite our support behaving impeccably, Trinity fans were busting a gut to get past Lincoln's stewards to fight Boston supporters. So it works both ways. No excuses, of course, and I know this was many years ago - but the point stands. Hopefully CCTV will have caught the offenders today and they can be dealt with accordingly. Regular level headed Boston fans will no doubt be ashamed of their fellow supporters. We're not all 'scum'.

Fair enough pete b...saying you was all scum was thoughtless of me and for that I apologise to the decent boston fans,but today was disgusting and maddened and saddened me.

After all its just a football game...whoever is the moderator of this forum I would like my thread removed if possible.

No need to have the thread removed. Venting is therapeutic!! Fact is, not matter how much we moan and gripe about it, we'll always have utter tosswits going to games intent on causing trouble. It happens at most clubs, at all levels of the game, and the only solution is to manage these morons to ensure they aren't able to act on the primitive thoughts generated by their three brain cells. It sounds to me like Trinity were probably caught by surprise today - as you say, if you've hosted bigger travelling support than ours with no issues, you might be lulled into thinking you've got all bases covered. But you need to into account that, at the moment, Trinity is our 'derby' fixture, and so your lot assume the role of pantomine villains that over the years has been otherwise been filled by Grantham (I've seen fights in that fixture), Lincoln, King's Lynn and so on. And the thickos like nothing better than to kick off at derby fixtures.

[Ed Kandi]

Your segregation sounds a bit tinpot , Have you got cctv?

Unless you have near HD quality images on your CCTV you may as well forget trying to get it to court ... might be able to ban the fans involved if they are identifiable, but even that could be successfully challenged if the images are not 100% clear. 
Thats just the way it is nowadays unfortunately 

[Bostonshire]

As mentioned in a different thread, Newton as already asked that any CCTV to be past forward to Boston united and a investigation into this will be conducted in a way they should be conducted and any guilty person will be found.

The forum is not the place for this sort of thing to be ranted until at least the CCTV is viewed and is looked into.

The Trouble is as shameful as having this thread on the board.

[argieh]

Segregation seems to have been a joke with just a fence/gate between two sets of rival supporters, one set with a supposed 'history' of trouble. This alone should have alerted GT to the fact that extra policing/stewarding might have been necessary for this 'derby' match, together with an obvious partition. Still no excuse for trouble but surely a bit of pre-planning might have raised the possibility of it! 

[kingofnaves]

Your segregation sounds a bit tinpot , Have you got cctv?

Unless you have near HD quality images on your CCTV you may as well forget trying to get it to court ... might be able to ban the fans involved if they are identifiable, but even that could be successfully challenged if the images are not 100% clear. 
Thats just the way it is nowadays unfortunately 

I can remember several years ago the bottle throwing incident at your ground! The Fraudster made an appeal for help and somebody was arrested.I sugggest Drury could do same ?

[Lord Cutler Knobhead]

I know quite a few mariners fans and not one of them have a good word to say about boston.

Living in the heart of Codland, I'd also take anything anyone supporting Grimsby on the road takes with a pinch.  They have a massive problem, way over a little what we saw today.  Full on organised chaos rather than a few who don't know the boundaries. 

At least the chips where cooked this year and someone didn't feel the need to throw them 

And I read on Curtis's (an independant eye) twitter feed that the tennis balls came from outside the ground not the Boston support

[swineshead pilgrim!]

I dont think boston can be souly to blame on this, from what i was told the thicko ran straight through your gate and into the trinity fans how is this possible if there are stewards around? and the cherb from the trinity 'youth' (is all i can describe it as) didnt help matters either! Both sets of fans have to take the blame and so do trinity for some very poorly organised segregation

[Bostonshire]

It could be lincoln fans

[Ferret]

....just the law of averages I'm afraid. If only 4% of support is knuckle dragging scum, then we bring 10 to an away game and you take only 1.  Simples.

[wayne, york pilgrim]

violence is a part of life i'm affraid. it will never go away, ever. when it comes to football its an excuse for a minority to have a punch up because we live in differerent towns or support a different football team. all that can be done is to keep a distance between people who want to fight. this is where things went wrong at gainsborough yesterday. a small element of boston fans were aloud to leave the segregated area before half time to go around the ground to the bar to get more beer (should not have happened). they were left then to enter through the bar into the home supporters area (should not have happened). at this point they should have been ejected from the ground, but instead were escorted back into the away section (should not have happened). for the violence to kick off a segregation gate was opened (this should not have happened). its clearly very bad stewarding. also there was no police presence. just two police officers stood by the gate would have been a deterent for any trouble.
 at last years fixture gainsborough fans attacked boston fans, so it was no supprise that there would be an ellement of fans looking for trouble this time around. it will be the same next time around. if people get hurt fighting so be it, as long as the innocent deccent football fans don't get caught up in it. it will always be a part of football as well as life in general.

[Adam]

Some unpleasantness has crept into our away support recently I think. There was an unpleasant scene - albeit one that didn't develop past jestering - after full time at Corby on New Year's Day which I thought was plain embarrassing. Having said this, I only see a handful of away games each year so I'm not in a real position to comment.

[Tony Goor]

I went to the County Cup pre-season game, the previous season, although I felt welcome in the bar, and in the ground, when Boston took the lead, there was certainly a group of Trinity fans who became very abusive, and it was most uncomfortable watching the rest in an unsegregated ground.
Boston fans are just the same as Trinity ones, the majority are placid going for a day out and enjoying watching their team.  As with all football clubs, and society, there are always a few idiots.  From what I personally saw 18 months ago, I would be very surprised if there was not a few Trinity fans having a pop.
Good luck Trinity for the rest of the season. 
Boston United 4 points, Trinity 1.

[pilgrim4life]

can i just say if you think the boston fans started the touble yesterday you are completely wrong. It was after gainsboring scored that this happened, unless you are blind you would have seen their 'fans' come running towards us and open the gate and get a few of our fans through. As for the fans that went through at half time, it just shows what a joke your tinpot ground is. How do you think you will cope IF you go up? I feel personally the segregation only made things worse as the gainsboring fans were all hard nuts until one of them open the gate and they all ran away. I will say the same as last year, dont start something you cant handle. We were just having a good day out and having a few beers, absolutely nothing wrong with that!

[Pilgrim86]

Mention to these cods     BURTON ALBION .    enough said .

I went to that game, on the home terrace, and it was absolutely disgraceful.

[woad_pilgrim]

I was amongst our main body of support on the away side of the segregation gate. Moved after a few minutes of the second half but before I did there was a group of young lads appeared on the Gainsborough side and the banter seemed pretty lighthearted imo.

When we scored our first goal, the fans all surged forward and went to celebrate the goal with the players. When Trinity scored their first I had a good view of the covered terrace as I was now on the other side of the ground. A quite large group of Trinity fans all ran from varying places on their side and where at the segregation gate antagonising the Boston support thinking they where safely tucked away behind a fence, when soome of our "fans" got through the fence I don't see how these fans can complain if something untoward happens.

That fence was maned by 3 stewards up until the trouble, not nearly enough and once the trouble broke out several more stewards appeared (not sure why they were needed in the rest of the ground and not were obvious hotspot was? I also feel a couple of police would have been appropriate given the events of last season. Even so the stewards were pretty poor allowing fans to open the gate.

There were people from Boston who I thought looked more interested in winding up and causing trouble than the game and I think this was partly due to the events of last season. There is no need for idiots like this, you expect it at League grounds to an extent but not at non-league football.

So to summarise the reasons for trouble:

1) Inadequate stewarding, both in numbers and in skills
2) Lack of police presence (I'm sure we have a couple in and around our away end?)
3) The trouble caused by Trinity fans last year meaning Boston people (they are not fans) turning up looking for trouble
4) Trinity fans antagonising our support by storming the fence when they scored (something I've seen countless times before but which doesn't usually result in the trouble seen yesterday)
5) Stewards letting fans from both sides in and out of the gates at both sides (I saw this personally at both gates)

Not much can be done about 3 & 4 but if the game had been better organised/segregated none of the trouble would have happened (in the ground at least). For those that say it created the problems segregating, personally think it would have been far worse had it not been in place (as poor as it was).