Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Pilgrims67 on September 22, 2009, 08:40:32 PM
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Well what a first half!
we are lucky not to be 2 down, we are totally out muscled in every part of the pitch
men against boys so far, let see what the second half beings
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Suspected as much with all the 'shorties' we are buying ..
Have to out pace them I guess..
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Other HT scores
SPS0-2 Kendal
NFerriby 4-0 Durham
Nant0-0 Ashton
Bursc 0-4 Guisley
Marine1 -1 BPA
Osset3-1 Buxton
KL1-0 Hucknall
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0.1 sort of not surprising, now we have NO height upfront
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Feck. >:(
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Anyone take a draw now ::)
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Chris Wood is having a mare this season. Not been impressed with his abilities so far.
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Lost but yet again Chalkers got us down as dominating the game...views ? When are we going to start to break these teams down :-\
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Lost but yet again Chalkers got us down as dominating the game...views ? When are we going to start to break these teams down :-\
He's right. We were all over them ! Then there was a punch up... The ball was running out of play in direction of their dug out as we counter attacked, our player (can't remember who) was going to take it quickly, one of their staff just grabs it and wouldn't release it. Rob Scott was over there like a shot and it elevates - not sure how the ref only got 6 minutes added time. It completely broke our momentum and they scored straight after that with just about their first foray into our half since the first half.
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We where not all over them, we had one chance in 90 minutes! Hardly domination
we where fairly beaten by a side better suited to this league it's that simple
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We where not all over them, we had one chance in 90 minutes! Hardly domination
we where fairly beaten by a side better suited to this league it's that simple
Nothing fair about their victory. If that's what it takes to go up I'd sooner us stay in this league. Dirtiest side I have seen in a long long time.
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think we will be staying in this league woady........
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So be it, I stand by my statement. Call it sour grapes whatever but I couldn't watch a dirty side like that week in week out.
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We where not all over them, we had one chance in 90 minutes! Hardly domination
we where fairly beaten by a side better suited to this league it's that simple
Oh, OK then. Just from memory between half time and the brawl:
Jamie Clarke from the angle beats the keeper, cleared off the line.
Jamie Clarke blasting a touch over after bursting down the right channel.
Church forced a great save from their keeper from 25 yards.
Anyway, I agree with WP's sentiments.
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reading between the lines i think we need 2 or 3 big dirty chaps in this league......
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Thought the first half was pretty much a continuation of the Whitby game.Don't think at any point we were "all over them" but I thought we did come out with a lot more purpose in the second half and played with a better tempo.There was no way i felt we deserved to lose.However,we still aren't creating as much as we should and the 4-3-3 isn't helping.
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I could watch them every week Woad Pilgrim if they get 3 points.We are not strong enough throughout the team.Wait until the winter I can see some of our players being blown over by the the wind!
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Well what a night, first half terrible, had to leg for couple of fags at half time.First 10 of the second half just as poor.then for about 20 or so we stepped on it and regardless of others opion i felt the goal would come untill........
Well i think we all know what happened next, some big issues to be sorted regarding that,
Our number 4 should have got booked for hell balling into the dug out the way he did.
dudfeild and 2 of there subs should have gone for lashing out, there number 6 should have gone for running half the pitch to throw is himself in the mix, dont know wich of there players it was but they made a 2 footed studds showing knee hight takle, strait red by the rules.
Just as dissapointing was the boston fans not leaving the 2 stands when asked to.
1008 did they get that out of a hat.
In true style though all im gonna say is chinn up we will get there.
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That's fine then, if anyone thinks you get out of this league by playing football hasn't seen the team from the last three decades, the unibond or old northern prem, has always been a tough league
as many have said in recent weeks the support will disappear without victories
we need wins, no matter how ugly,
I have seen much more dirty teams this season fc united to name one, but maybe people have poor memories
we where second in too many areas today
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I could watch them every week Woad Pilgrim if they get 3 points.We are not strong enough throughout the team.Wait until the winter I can see some of our players being blown over by the the wind!
Is 3 points really that important that you'd watch that sort of cynical stuff? Win fairly or not at all. If the ref had given a yellow much earlier in the game he wouldn't have lost control as much as he did. The 1 time we needed a whistle happy ref we usually get and we get someone who let everything goes. Regardless I'm still optimistic despite the defeat.
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reading between the lines i think we need 2 or 3 big dirty chaps in this league......
after watching these teams last season it was always going to be an obvious recruitment to have some players like that,pretty footy aint going to get us out of this league FACT.i dont meen we have to kick our way out and certainly dont want to see us like that but we do need to beef up a bit.
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That's fine then, if anyone thinks you get out of this league by playing football hasn't seen the team from the last three decades, the unibond or old northern prem, has always been a tough league
as many have said in recent weeks the support will disappear without victories
we need wins, no matter how ugly,
I have seen much more dirty teams this season fc united to name one, but maybe people have poor memories
we where second in too many areas today
Go ask a Fleetwood fan if they played dirty football to get out of this league a couple of years ago, all I've heard is they passed teams off the park. Obviously you have your opinion but I don't think FC where a patch on them tonight. Ugly yes, unfairly no...
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4 points out of 18, let's see how long the optimism amongst all fans remains!
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That's fine then, if anyone thinks you get out of this league by playing football hasn't seen the team from the last three decades, the unibond or old northern prem, has always been a tough league
as many have said in recent weeks the support will disappear without victories
we need wins, no matter how ugly,
I have seen much more dirty teams this season fc united to name one, but maybe people have poor memories
we where second in too many areas today
Us dirty? we are probably the softest and most lighweight team in this league
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That's right we just had the one player stretchered off against fc, so not too unfair
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Seems we are gently slipping down through midtable again
Maybe we are just a test-bed for management techniques this season ..
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For what it's worth, I thought it was the best football we've played all season - if we keep playing as we did in the second half, we've got a chance.
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Feels like it ft
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i thought it was better but still shit, should have just been another nil-nil,
What happened with that brawl?? the ref didtnt know what to do like the rest of the match
Also considering the crap on the pitch a majority of the time, the atmostphere didnt seem that bad for some of the 2nd half
and also hope that steward who had the tumble in the staffsmart is alright!
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Re: V retford tonight
« Reply #26 on: Today at 10:34:48 PM »
For what it's worth, I thought it was the best football we've played all season - if we keep playing as we did in the second half, we've got a chance.
Right Thats it, I have lost the will to argue, I am off to bed
thanks all good debate
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That's right we just had the one player stretchered off against fc, so not too unfair
And we had Pearson go off tonight, Church had an elbow to the face that cut his eye. And Wood was the victim of a 2 footed lung that should of been a red, pleased but surprised he was ok to carry on...
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FCUM are funny ..I reckon if they feel like playing they do ..and if they don't they don't ..!
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FCUM are funny ..I reckon if they feel like playing they do ..and if they don't they don't ..!
I agree very well put when we pass we're good when we don't we're terrible like against you this season.
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How how how how how how how? the hell was there not a red card for the brawl. I know he was inept the rest of the game but chuff me, there were at least 4 yellows for both sets of sides and whoever was on their bench and took a massive swipe should have been walking no questions asked.
There was also that two footed lunge in the middle of the park after Ellie and someone had battled for the ball, straight red card offense there.
So in summary....
We set ourselves up ugly to set our stall out and hope to nick something on the break (some of the best football I've seen away from home) and the people moan.
They try and go at teams playing good football, the people moan we're too lightweight, I despair.
Cracking atmosphere second half, makes a change for it to be for our team and against the opposition, drowned out the 'Suarez your shit' etc.
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We didn't appear likely to score until Suarez went off. 10 out of 10 for physical effort but I don't know where the goals we need are going to come from. Thats all I will say on the football, I'm saving my venom for a new topic on "Fancy Dress Man".
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...and John Frggatt was sat near me in the stand,sign him up!!!!......out maneorved, bossed all over the park,always 2nd to the ball,improved slightly in the 2nd half not cos we were better cos they coasted a little.Midfield non existent, no outlet ball to play....weak and slow!!!...only positive the fantastic crowd who once again deserve better than this trollope.
What the frigging point was there by evacuated the stand....clueless, the guy was wheeled out with the doctor, and i hope hes ok by the way!!!!...surely keeping everybody in the stand away from the exit was of more sense. Really fed up with this now,why do we need to have all these bloody stewards, why in the unibond league can i not walk from the stand to the town end without some gorilla rushing to the gate to prevent me....laughing stock
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Well what a night, first half terrible, had to leg for couple of fags at half time.First 10 of the second half just as poor.then for about 20 or so we stepped on it and regardless of others opion i felt the goal would come untill........
Well i think we all know what happened next, some big issues to be sorted regarding that,
Our number 4 should have got booked for hell balling into the dug out the way he did.
dudfeild and 2 of there subs should have gone for lashing out, there number 6 should have gone for running half the pitch to throw is himself in the mix, dont know wich of there players it was but they made a 2 footed studds showing knee hight takle, strait red by the rules.
Just as dissapointing was the boston fans not leaving the 2 stands when asked to.
1008 did they get that out of a hat.
In true style though all im gonna say is chinn up we will get there.
Spot on my son that's how I saw the game tonight. I thought Church should have won man of the match he certainly put some meaty challenges in tonight. At this moment in time we are a poor side with little confidence. The two managers need to earn their corn this week and somehow conjour up a cup win and then build on it for the next two away games.
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What's effort if it doesn't do the job ?
Thought the consensus pre-season was to build on brick s***houses to compete in THIS League..?
All we seem to be signing at present are near midgets..
Don't wish to be seeing a team of 'gallant ' losers..
Trust the F.I stand incident not too serious..
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We didn't appear likely to score until Suarez went off. 10 out of 10 for physical effort but I don't know where the goals we need are going to come from. Thats all I will say on the football, I'm saving my venom for a new topic on "Fancy Dress Man".
Agreed once Clarke came on it made a hell of a difference. Had my moan about the ref and Retfords dirty play.
As far as the game went thought when they actually tried to play football Retford where very good and pretty much dominated the first half. Second half we made more of a fist of it and looked the most likely to score especially when Clarke came on for the ineffective Suarez. Trouble is as has been said we went for the win instead of sitting for the draw and got caught on the break, don't think the mele helped us but did them. Still a long way to go and I'm sure the managers will make changes, for me Clarke MUST start on Saturday and up front not on the wing.
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All is not lost. Despite playing the dirtiest team I have seen from any team in this league (this season or last) they also had skill and experience and will be there or there abouts come the end of the season. First half they pressed us but we kept them at arms length. Second half we broke them down and did everything but score; goal line clearence, clarke going for power over accuracy when one on one, sleath and church forcing very good saves from their goalie. After the twenty man brawl farce they scored on the break through a lucky own goal and from then onwards we just pumped long balls to Newsham and Clarke where we were out muscled and out played everytime. The ref had an absolute shocker and should have stamped his authority on the game in the first ten minutes during which time Cotton was unfairly hacked to the ground two or three times. The ref couldn't keep up with play and made numerous poor decisons - the majority going against us. We missed Cannovile and Davidson tonight there experience and strength could have made a difference. Thought the managers got it spot on tonight going 4 4 2 as the majority of fans have been crying out for. Church was man of the match in my opinion. It was refreshing to see two out and out wingers which allowed Newsham to play further up the field. Maybe luck will change and results with it.
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did anyone else here the man in the 'Fantasy Island' stand slating Ellie all the time saying he was crap when he was at the club?
So he was crap when he helped us stay up last year?
I bet if Ellie was still at the club then that man wouldn't say that
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We didn't appear likely to score until Suarez went off. 10 out of 10 for physical effort but I don't know where the goals we need are going to come from. Thats all I will say on the football, I'm saving my venom for a new topic on "Fancy Dress Man".
Agreed once Clarke came on it made a hell of a difference. Had my moan about the ref and Retfords dirty play.
As far as the game went thought when they actually tried to play football Retford where very good and pretty much dominated the first half. Second half we made more of a fist of it and looked the most likely to score especially when Clarke came on for the ineffective Suarez. Trouble is as has been said we went for the win instead of sitting for the draw and got caught on the break, don't think the mele helped us but did them. Still a long way to go and I'm sure the managers will make changes, for me Clarke MUST start on Saturday and up front not on the wing.
Agreed, Clarke is the heartbeat of the team when he's on the field. And although Cotton really should be playing on the wing and running at people, it's not hard to see why they were willing to make an exception to get Tyrone Kirk. Camm, Church and Sleath to make up the rest of the midfield. I thought Wood improved again today, although scoring their winner is a bit of a black mark.
Edit - oh, and it's a sad thing to have to say, but it'll do us the world of good the next two fixtures being away from home.
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did anyone else here the man in the 'Fantasy Island' stand slating Ellie all the time saying he was crap when he was at the club?
So he was crap when he helped us stay up last year?
I bet if Ellie was still at the club then that man wouldn't say that
He wouldn't say it at arms length either.
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did anyone else here the man in the 'Fantasy Island' stand slating Ellie all the time saying he was crap when he was at the club?
So he was crap when he helped us stay up last year?
I bet if Ellie was still at the club then that man wouldn't say that
I heard several calling Ellie which IMO is disappointing as he has been fantastic for us in the past, but Ellie being Ellie gave as good as he got.
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Thought the atmosphere for tonight's game was superb, Townenders give yourselves a pat on the back. Even though we lost it was well worth attending.
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Agree with bb1. Good atmosphere created by townenders. Well done everyone.
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did anyone else here the man in the 'Fantasy Island' stand slating Ellie all the time saying he was crap when he was at the club?
So he was crap when he helped us stay up last year?
I bet if Ellie was still at the club then that man wouldn't say that
I heard several calling Ellie which IMO is disappointing as he has been fantastic for us in the past, but Ellie being Ellie gave as good as he got.
Very disappointing IMO. Sure he realises most fans think well of him.
Thought the atmosphere for tonight's game was superb, Townenders give yourselves a pat on the back. Even though we lost it was well worth attending.
Agree with bb1. Good atmosphere created by townenders. Well done everyone.
More of that for the next game please. Great second half atmosphere only spoiled by being mugged.
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thought retford just about deserved it. didnt think they were particulary dirty just very physical.thought we played well tonight but just wasnt to be.big worry for me when pearson went off and young ashton came on he got caught out at least 3 times and it was his error what the goal came from.not picking on him but his inexperience showed quite clearly tonight . really could do with a defender on loan at the moment to cover our defensive injuries.thought church was outstanding tonight and cant really fault anybody but we really need to start winning some home games else we will finish mid table at the very least.physically we are lacking big time from the midfield and forwards.
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Agree with bb1. Good atmosphere created by townenders. Well done everyone.
Yep, the best atmosphere for ages, its just a shame there was such a negative, poisonous atmosphere 1st half, with a barrage of bad language and petty, puerile abuse hurled at the ref. Do you honestly think such crap will help sway his thinking into our favour...... and where was the noise after the Retford goal? When the team really needed support it wasn't there.........and a big well done to the idiot who decided to hurl abuse at Ellie at the end........the bloke gave us almost a decade of service and stood by us after McFraud almost wiped the club off the face of the earth. He deserved better than that.What we'd give for someone with his experience at the moment.
And the cynical line about Retford doesn't wash with me, I tend to look at them as more 'savvy' or 'cute' at this level and I put the current malaise down to Hurst and Scott who've filled the team with lightweights and forgot to get in some lads with a backbone and experience.The goal was a classic example, we were running the game, the ball goes out, there's a scuffle and the momentum of the game is broken which suits them down to the ground. Far too often lads were brushed off the ball, not fouled, just out muscled by far more experienced rivals. Interesting to note the gate tonight, over 500 down on the opening home game, obviously not everyone has invested in the rose tinted specs some purchased when these two were appointed.
For all the possession 2nd half we created very little and only really troubled their back line 2 or 3 times. We were hit by a classic sucker punch and can have no complaints. I don't have the stats but my guess is Tommy Taylor's record after 5 games last season at home is probably more profitable points wise than the 5 games under these 2, a very sobering point. Defeat on Saturday is unthinkable but a real possibility, I just think we're too much of a soft touch.
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For the last 10 minutes of the first half and most of the second half we upped the tempo a lot. I thought we were the better side and played some good football because it was kept on the ground. We are light weight and even the tall Suarez was pushed around. Dudfield knew what he was doing when he held onto that ball, to try and disrupt our momentum and it worked. When Scott ran over to their dugout it was out of pure concern for our player who was being jostled about by their team and then of course everyone else jumped in. Dudfeld caused all that fuss by hanging onto the ball when he shouldn't have touched it. If our side could play the ball around for longer like they did I think we have the makings of a good side, except, and a lot have already said this, we need a more physical presence. We miss Canners and Its purely a personal view but we should have kept Ellender.
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Defeat on Saturday is unthinkable but a real possibility, I just think we're too much of a soft touch.
Defeat on Saturday was always a possibility, its a rotten draw and has come at the wrong time for us. We just need to get past that and build again.
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http://scottdalton.posterous.com/paul-hurst-interview-v-retford (http://scottdalton.posterous.com/paul-hurst-interview-v-retford)
What is the pen incident he is talking about? There were so many farcicle incidents that I don't remember a stand out one?
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Agree with bb1. Good atmosphere created by townenders. Well done everyone.
Yep, the best atmosphere for ages, its just a shame there was such a negative, poisonous atmosphere 1st half, with a barrage of bad language and petty, puerile abuse hurled at the ref. Do you honestly think such crap will help sway his thinking into our favour...... and where was the noise after the Retford goal? When the team really needed support it wasn't there.........and a big well done to the idiot who decided to hurl abuse at Ellie at the end........the bloke gave us almost a decade of service and stood by us after McFraud almost wiped the club off the face of the earth. He deserved better than that.What we'd give for someone with his experience at the moment.
And the cynical line about Retford doesn't wash with me, I tend to look at them as more 'savvy' or 'cute' at this level and I put the current malaise down to Hurst and Scott who've filled the team with lightweights and forgot to get in some lads with a backbone and experience.The goal was a classic example, we were running the game, the ball goes out, there's a scuffle and the momentum of the game is broken which suits them down to the ground. Far too often lads were brushed off the ball, not fouled, just out muscled by far more experienced rivals. Interesting to note the gate tonight, over 500 down on the opening home game, obviously not everyone has invested in the rose tinted specs some purchased when these two were appointed.
For all the possession 2nd half we created very little and only really troubled their back line 2 or 3 times. We were hit by a classic sucker punch and can have no complaints. I don't have the stats but my guess is Tommy Taylor's record after 5 games last season at home is probably more profitable points wise than the 5 games under these 2, a very sobering point. Defeat on Saturday is unthinkable but a real possibility, I just think we're too much of a soft touch.
You and I watched the same game, TOTALLY AGREE with everything you wrote
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Harsh result.Realised why Ellie wasnt re-signed slow, acted like a bouncer continually off the ball raising his forarm into players faces at corners etc, shame the ref was out his league.
Before I get hes a legend, yes he is but now hes past it.
Not to downbeat we will come good, just need two/three players who can mix it as and when the game requires it.
Great support.
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Football is all about opinions and each is entitled to their own,it doesn't make anyones any more or less valid than anyone elses.For what it's worth i don't subscribe to the idea that we are "lightweight" or that we need to fill the team with big ugly bruisers to succeed.We do lack experience especially with Canners(and last night Cammy)missing and the sooner we get those two back the better.We know teams in this league are often big and physical,as were Retford,it's up to us to counteract that with our own brand of football.Hurst & Scott are young managers who have had virtually non-stop success from the time they took over at Ilkeston.Now for the first time,they are experiencing the other side of the coin-we'll see how they handle it.
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Agree with bb1. Good atmosphere created by townenders. Well done everyone.
Yep, the best atmosphere for ages, its just a shame there was such a negative, poisonous atmosphere 1st half, with a barrage of bad language and petty, puerile abuse hurled at the ref. Do you honestly think such crap will help sway his thinking into our favour...... and where was the noise after the Retford goal? When the team really needed support it wasn't there.........and a big well done to the idiot who decided to hurl abuse at Ellie at the end........the bloke gave us almost a decade of service and stood by us after McFraud almost wiped the club off the face of the earth. He deserved better than that.What we'd give for someone with his experience at the moment.
And the cynical line about Retford doesn't wash with me, I tend to look at them as more 'savvy' or 'cute' at this level and I put the current malaise down to Hurst and Scott who've filled the team with lightweights and forgot to get in some lads with a backbone and experience.The goal was a classic example, we were running the game, the ball goes out, there's a scuffle and the momentum of the game is broken which suits them down to the ground. Far too often lads were brushed off the ball, not fouled, just out muscled by far more experienced rivals. Interesting to note the gate tonight, over 500 down on the opening home game, obviously not everyone has invested in the rose tinted specs some purchased when these two were appointed.
For all the possession 2nd half we created very little and only really troubled their back line 2 or 3 times. We were hit by a classic sucker punch and can have no complaints. I don't have the stats but my guess is Tommy Taylor's record after 5 games last season at home is probably more profitable points wise than the 5 games under these 2, a very sobering point. Defeat on Saturday is unthinkable but a real possibility, I just think we're too much of a soft touch.
Last season you where saying we had too many has-beens and journeymen, which is basically what you are asking for with your experienced players. And when you say players who have no backbone I think you are doing Church and Camm (who's physical presence we missed last night) a disservice. We have the experience you call for in Canners, Camm and Davidson but all 3 where missing last night. You say we need the experience of Ellie, for me I agree with Freiston Fan he is past his best and we don't need players like that.
Why do you only want to compare Taylor's home point record with the current management? Is this because it is the only stat that backs up your grumbling?
They where not cute or savvy they where downright cynical dirty players. I've nothing against a physical side, for example FCUM and BPA this season or if you want an example of a team we played at home Ashton or Worksop last season. These where teams with a physical presence not a team that where allowed to continually foul players like the ref let them get away with last night, but hey we're not going to agree.
Just 1 final thing, if you think the Retford style of play is the holy mecca of this league why have they got exactly the same amount of wins, draws and points as us? Not exactly a more successful style is it? People keep saying we need bigger players to be up there, looking back to last season granted Eastwood the team that won it used big players and a very (fair) physical approach, but the rest of the top 6 where the best passing sides in the league. Personally I think the likes of Nantwich, Guiseley and Ilkeston of last season are what we should be aspiring to be like not thugs like Retford.
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Last night just goes to show how cruel the game can be. After a more up beat tempo and better play in the 2nd half it was us with the momentum and the players sensed it. With great support and our confidence building, I felt the goal was about to come. But then thanks to some hand bags the game was ruined by what I think was a very dirty tatic of retfords. Obviously duffer knew eactly what he was doing and it worked for them by disrupting our play and us taking our eye off the ball - excuse the terrible pun, which resulted in a cheap goal being conceeded.
The 1st half wasn't electrifying and we struggled physically against them. Any possession we had was lost quickly and we struggled to produce goal scoring opportunities. I think a bit of a telling off and a few subs seemed to do the business in the 2nd half. I went away mostly pleased with the team as they showed character in the 2nd half to get stuck in and battle with a physical team. Like others, I'm too worried about the strength of some of our players. It's a physical league certainly and we need to find a couple of muscular types to upset and disrupt these teams play. Up front if we're more clinical with the opportunities we make, we'd see a big increase in goals. Jamie Clarke had a beautiful chance in the 2nd half with only the keeper to beat, it sailed other the bar. Thats just a typical example of us not taking the chances when they arrise. If we adpopt the 4 4 2 and stop long balls flying up and down the pitch, we can do much better and do ourselves justice. Long balls can only be collected by big players who can shield the ball and battle with defenders. we dont seem to have them type of players so passing football is the only other option I believe just like in pre season. I dont think were using all of the pitch to play on, they need to run into space for the man on the ball and create options for the player to pass to. We're just far too rigid down the centre of the pitch and it gets messy with players bumping into each other. A few tweaks to the squad and it could be very good.
Keep the faith
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I don't have the stats but my guess is Tommy Taylor's record after 5 games last season at home is probably more profitable points wise than the 5 games under these 2, a very sobering point. Defeat on Saturday is unthinkable but a real possibility, I just think we're too much of a soft touch.
Had a quick look at those stats, Tommy's first 5 home league games: W 1 D 1 L3 PTS 4
So exactly the same points total. The team then subsequently lost their next 2 home league games resulting in Tommy's departure. SW's first 5 home league games where no better: W 1 D 0 L 4
Our first 12 home games resulted in W 2 D 1 L 9. So from the next 7 home league games we only need another 4 points to better last season. Stats hey, who'd trust them ;)
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Football is all about opinions and each is entitled to their own,it doesn't make anyones any more or less valid than anyone elses.For what it's worth i don't subscribe to the idea that we are "lightweight" or that we need to fill the team with big ugly bruisers to succeed.We do lack experience especially with Canners(and last night Cammy)missing and the sooner we get those two back the better.We know teams in this league are often big and physical,as were Retford,it's up to us to counteract that with our own brand of football.Hurst & Scott are young managers who have had virtually non-stop success from the time they took over at Ilkeston.Now for the first time,they are experiencing the other side of the coin-we'll see how they handle it.
I don't disagree with any of that, we did miss camm for sure
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Please let's not compare against last season, that was depressing, despite my rantings I believe we are a much better side, and I am sure we will see a run of better results, but we do need to get some strength in the team
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Enjoyed the evening and not just cos we nicked a point. Odd being segregated at this level, but thought the area given was fine with good facilities and even let us out for a pint at half time. A few moans about the £10 entry & £2.50 for the programme, but it was a good programme and when I heard the size of your rent, your remaining disposable income isn't probably all that great.
Take issue with the "thug" comments, agreeing more with some of your "savvy" and "physical" comments, most of out players are simply street wise at this level & know what to do (our most booked player to date this season is Ellie!!)
Hope you make it up behind us as your fan base, ground and facilities deserve it, you shouldn't be here. Be prepared for a rural experience at Cannon Park in January, bring your coats!
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Enjoyed the evening and not just cos we nicked a point. Odd being segregated at this level, but thought the area given was fine with good facilities and even let us out for a pint at half time. A few moans about the £10 entry & £2.50 for the programme, but it was a good programme and when I heard the size of your rent, your remaining disposable income isn't probably all that great.
Take issue with the "thug" comments, agreeing more with some of your "savvy" and "physical" comments, most of out players are simply street wise at this level & know what to do (our most booked player to date this season is Ellie!!)
Hope you make it up behind us as your fan base, ground and facilities deserve it, you shouldn't be here. Be prepared for a rural experience at Cannon Park in January, bring your coats!
Nice one Badger. We are the last team that should be moaning about thugs as over the years we have had a few of our own. I thought your boys were a bit tougher than us and as you say probably a bit more street wise, with the exeption of the two footed tackle in the centre of the pitch. For what it's worth I thought Church should have been booked for diving into your dug out at full tilt as well as your man.
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http://scottdalton.posterous.com/paul-hurst-interview-v-retford (http://scottdalton.posterous.com/paul-hurst-interview-v-retford)
What is the pen incident he is talking about? There were so many farcicle incidents that I don't remember a stand out one?
When Parker launched a long throw into the box, Jamie Clarke was being hugged quite tightly from behind
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http://scottdalton.posterous.com/paul-hurst-interview-v-retford (http://scottdalton.posterous.com/paul-hurst-interview-v-retford)
What is the pen incident he is talking about? There were so many farcicle incidents that I don't remember a stand out one?
When Parker launched a long throw into the box, Jamie Clarke was being hugged quite tightly from behind
Didn't really standout at the time cos it was going on at every throw/corner etc so I'd given up taking much notice as he clearly wasn't going to give owt.
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Exellent post P O D, Of all the posts on this subject, yours says the right things,Agree with most things you say, I would add , I thought Newsham was very slow and sluggish, a more sharper striker would have scored many more goals, I myself have not been impressed by him, in any of the games I have seen him play in, Ricky Miller would in my opinion have done as well, pity he was not given a chance to play for BUFC this season.
Last night just goes to show how cruel the game can be. After a more up beat tempo and better play in the 2nd half it was us with the momentum and the players sensed it. With great support and our confidence building, I felt the goal was about to come. But then thanks to some hand bags the game was ruined by what I think was a very dirty tatic of retfords. Obviously duffer knew eactly what he was doing and it worked for them by disrupting our play and us taking our eye off the ball - excuse the terrible pun, which resulted in a cheap goal being conceeded.
The 1st half wasn't electrifying and we struggled physically against them. Any possession we had was lost quickly and we struggled to produce goal scoring opportunities. I think a bit of a telling off and a few subs seemed to do the business in the 2nd half. I went away mostly pleased with the team as they showed character in the 2nd half to get stuck in and battle with a physical team. Like others, I'm too worried about the strength of some of our players. It's a physical league certainly and we need to find a couple of muscular types to upset and disrupt these teams play. Up front if we're more clinical with the opportunities we make, we'd see a big increase in goals. Jamie Clarke had a beautiful chance in the 2nd half with only the keeper to beat, it sailed other the bar. Thats just a typical example of us not taking the chances when they arrise. If we adpopt the 4 4 2 and stop long balls flying up and down the pitch, we can do much better and do ourselves justice. Long balls can only be collected by big players who can shield the ball and battle with defenders. we dont seem to have them type of players so passing football is the only other option I believe just like in pre season. I dont think were using all of the pitch to play on, they need to run into space for the man on the ball and create options for the player to pass to. We're just far too rigid down the centre of the pitch and it gets messy with players bumping into each other. A few tweaks to the squad and it could be very good.
Keep the faith
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did anyone else here the man in the 'Fantasy Island' stand slating Ellie all the time saying he was crap when he was at the club?
So he was crap when he helped us stay up last year?
I bet if Ellie was still at the club then that man wouldn't say that
I heard several calling Ellie which IMO is disappointing as he has been fantastic for us in the past, but Ellie being Ellie gave as good as he got.
If that was the case then it was as disapointing as the result. Thinking about it probably even more so. If it wasn't for him a couple of others back end of last season it is arguable whether or not the club would be featuring in this fixture at all
Shame on any supporter who resorted to such comments