Agree with you 100% P86, and so did 15 coaches and 3,000 supporters the day ray Warburton headed the second at hayes. Sure, all sorts of rubbish came out afterwards, and I'm a hater too now, but at the time I thought he deserved a chance. What's come out since has ruined everything good he ever did, and more. Despite all this, I still can't help but think his next step is premier league at a club like sunderland for example. God help the prem if he makes it, but for some reason I can't rule out the possibility...