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Title: Good on ya Den.
Post by: lonegunman on October 24, 2016, 05:07:45 PM
Pleased to hear you're staying.  ;)
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 24, 2016, 05:36:02 PM
A real lift in morale for all except the moaners who seem destined losers .    Three consecutive seasons predicting failure turned out incorrect .  Determination to remove DG ends in failure , which indicates that the directors have full confidence in Greene .
A very very big ask but lets hope Den reaches a top 6 position to leave his record intact and the moaners yet again in tatters.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: lonegunman on October 24, 2016, 05:56:29 PM
Here, here, now lets get back to normality.  ;)
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on October 24, 2016, 06:01:56 PM
I don't actually mind if we're not top 6 this season. Priority for the Club (Business) this year will be to get the new ground sorted out. I could never see the Chestnuts throwing money into the playing budget this year. Mid table will be fine for those running the show but of course it is always difficult to please the Premier League mentality fans who call for a managerial change as soon as the team is out of the top 10.

At the end of the day, taking everything into account in 2016, we're probably at about the right level as a football club.

TEP
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Ernie100 on October 24, 2016, 06:12:32 PM
Let's get to the new stadium, shot of the rent for York Street, and then see how we fare, should be a bit more cash to go towards better players.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: oxo on October 24, 2016, 06:22:21 PM
The decision has been made at meeting with David Newton which is as it should be. I have total respect and trust in our chairman and as it is he who has brought about this outcome I fully accept it and hope the club can move on in a positive manner. I have been a critic over the last few months but that criticism has been of the players either not putting in the effort or not being capable to perform at this level. I have never shouted abuse of any kind at the manager and am still bewildered why he should want to confront me the way he did.
I will keep my personal thoughts to myself and carry on supporting my team and hope all other issues can be consigned to the past.  UTP   
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: lonegunman on October 24, 2016, 06:23:10 PM
Well said Ernie.
Mind you, if and when we get moved and we're not that cracking, the club can't say, 'the rent is crippling us'  :dan
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: The Third Twin on October 24, 2016, 09:04:43 PM
A real lift in morale for all except the moaners who seem destined losers .    Three consecutive seasons predicting failure turned out incorrect .  Determination to remove DG ends in failure , which indicates that the directors have full confidence in Greene .
A very very big ask but lets hope Den reaches a top 6 position to leave his record intact and the moaners yet again in tatters.
I would like say that not everyone with a more negative view is a moaner or loser. I have never been Den's biggest fan. I have never hidden thst opinion, but I respect the fact that not everyone thinks the same way. I may have a different view to you, but that doesn't mean I have to conform to a majority, shut up, or change my opinion. Despite it, I hope for the good of the club that the ship steadies and things move positively on. But please, not everyone who thinks differently is a moaner or loser. Some people just think differently.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 24, 2016, 09:40:52 PM
A real lift in morale for all except the moaners who seem destined losers .    Three consecutive seasons predicting failure turned out incorrect .  Determination to remove DG ends in failure , which indicates that the directors have full confidence in Greene .
A very very big ask but lets hope Den reaches a top 6 position to leave his record intact and the moaners yet again in tatters.
I would like say that not everyone with a more negative view is a moaner or loser. I have never been Den's biggest fan. I have never hidden thst opinion, but I respect the fact that not everyone thinks the same way. I may have a different view to you, but that doesn't mean I have to conform to a majority, shut up, or change my opinion. Despite it, I hope for the good of the club that the ship steadies and things move positively on. But please, not everyone who thinks differently is a moaner or loser. Some people just think differently.

Sorry ET , did,nt notice you predicted gloom on above mentioned predictions , your not all gloom , often you bring sunshine to Patter  :)
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: kingofnaves on October 24, 2016, 09:59:08 PM
Let's get to the new stadium, shot of the rent for York Street, and then see how we fare, should be a bit more cash to go towards better players.
70 grand extra from the rent but 100 grand down from Chestnuts? Looks like we are 30 grand down
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Cousin Jack on October 24, 2016, 10:16:17 PM
       Very pleased that DG has decided to remain at the club. Please Dennis, ignore the pitchside ranters in future - they are a tiny minority and do not represent the views of most supporters.  Also had a first (and probably last) look at BUFC facebook comments today, surprised by the rancour of some of the posts, which would upset anyone I guess.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: kingofnaves on October 24, 2016, 10:30:52 PM
Have another look! 73% want him out
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: The Third Twin on October 24, 2016, 10:44:21 PM
A real lift in morale for all except the moaners who seem destined losers .    Three consecutive seasons predicting failure turned out incorrect .  Determination to remove DG ends in failure , which indicates that the directors have full confidence in Greene .
A very very big ask but lets hope Den reaches a top 6 position to leave his record intact and the moaners yet again in tatters.
I would like say that not everyone with a more negative view is a moaner or loser. I have never been Den's biggest fan. I have never hidden thst opinion, but I respect the fact that not everyone thinks the same way. I may have a different view to you, but that doesn't mean I have to conform to a majority, shut up, or change my opinion. Despite it, I hope for the good of the club that the ship steadies and things move positively on. But please, not everyone who thinks differently is a moaner or loser. Some people just think differently.

Sorry ET , did,nt notice you predicted gloom on above mentioned predictions , your not all gloom , often you bring sunshine to Patter  :)
a ray of sunshine, then....there's always someone worse off. Ferriby have lost 10 of their last 11 and scored only once in that time....it couldn't happen to a better club.🙌
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 24, 2016, 11:01:36 PM
Have another look! 73% want him out
"want him out"..........in exchange for what?
i cannot recall a positive post about the club KON....i just dont get how you and others seem to enjoy seeing the club struggle...
moaning players arent good enough and to get rid of them
complaining because we use too many players.
Just what has David Newton got to do to brighten your world?
surely its more than just accepting DG's resignation??
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Crazy Neil on October 24, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
I asked someone to give me a name if Den had gone,he came back with the same two names all the Den haters do, Lee Sinnot and Rob Scott .. Neither would be welcome at YS but if that is the route the Den haters want then we are doomed again.. I for one am pleased the Chairman and Den sorted it out with a chat and yes,I messaged Den yesterday and told him to ignore the haters. They are only heard as they stand together whereas those that are behind Den are scattered around the ground,we need to get into one area and drown the haters voices.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Cavalier on October 25, 2016, 12:01:11 AM
Have another look! 73% want him out
"want him out"..........in exchange for what?
i cannot recall a positive post about the club KON....i just dont get how you and others seem to enjoy seeing the club struggle...
moaning players arent good enough and to get rid of them
complaining because we use too many players.
Just what has David Newton got to do to brighten your world?
surely its more than just accepting DG's resignation??

I cannot understand KON's agenda at all.   When we do well we never hear a positive comment but he is always ready with his negativity at the earliest opportunity.   Is that how supporting your team works?  Fair criticism is OK, but let's keep a balance please. 
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: kingofnaves on October 25, 2016, 08:14:04 AM
Positive reply at least Den has some more money for players.Lets hopes he can find somebody?
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Lee Newell on October 25, 2016, 08:25:50 AM
Great news this. Shows how lucky we are to have a DN as chairman who can work with the manger and understand that it's not been an easy season for team and manager.

Nuneaton Saturday, a big chance to pick up 3 points, as they've not had a good start either. But Macquire and Smith suspended and Agnew added to the injury list will leave us short on numbers. Think the players will show their backing for Greene and grind a result Saturday.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 25, 2016, 09:53:58 AM
       Very pleased that DG has decided to remain at the club. Please Dennis, ignore the pitchside ranters in future - they are a tiny minority and do not represent the views of most supporters.  Also had a first (and probably last) look at BUFC facebook comments today, surprised by the rancour of some of the posts, which would upset anyone I guess.

I started to look at BUFC facebook a few weeks ago but not got round to looking this week as yet .  Sounds to me it,s very busy , last week after the commendable draw at Salford it was dead .   Only an handful of comments at most ,  and one of them  commented on BUFC "screwing"  fans ,  only to disappear later .

The main theme last week was demanding Newton put more money into budget , hopefully someone will remind them as KON as done us that Chestnuts put 100k a year into the club .
Maybe they like us are awaiting Andys master dossier on his financial plan to take the club forward .   Until any give a definitive figure as to what they think is a realistic budget for DG their comments are just hot air .

Have another look! 73% want him out

If I was Greene I,d worry when 73% of those on facebook say "we want Greene to stay ."
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: kingofnaves on October 25, 2016, 10:11:20 AM
More debt?
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: worldwide on October 25, 2016, 10:29:21 AM
More debt?

What's yr agenda?

Inuendo in virtually all your posts.  It doesn't matter who the manager is you have a dig.  Do you actually support Boston United?

You state that 73% want Greene out?
How do you arrive at this figure? I haven't been asked and I should imagine half the attendance at Saturday's match haven't been asked either.

If you post Inuendo's in future back them up with proof, although doubt that will happen.

Or better still go support another football team because you obviously don't support Boston United.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: SMELLS LIKE VICTORY on October 25, 2016, 10:32:01 AM
DG stays.
New stadium on the way.
The Chesnuts.
Stability.
Good times ahead!
Watch fly by nights fall away. (See N.Ferriby.)
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 25, 2016, 10:40:35 AM
Positive reply at least Den has some more money for players.Lets hopes he can find somebody?

I would think he knows plenty of players he would like to sign .   For those kids on facebook who specialise in fantasy football and condemn some of DGs signings remember the following ,
We are a part-time club with players have a regular job leaving many factors to consider , with most targets based a fair distance away
 ,  Travel with cost and time involved ,   probable loss of earnings for time involved on training nights and match days .
in turn players wage demands increase greatly ,   why travel to Boston if a club on the door step offers good terms ?

Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 25, 2016, 11:07:17 AM
       Very pleased that DG has decided to remain at the club. Please Dennis, ignore the pitchside ranters in future - they are a tiny minority and do not represent the views of most supporters.  Also had a first (and probably last) look at BUFC facebook comments today, surprised by the rancour of some of the posts, which would upset anyone I guess.

Just had a look on f/b and for anyone wanting a genuine debate or make a constructive comment it is an utter waste of time .

You judge :   One comment made a sarcastic slur about Rollins performance on Saturday . I never miss an home game and listen to the radio updates and newspaper reports on away games ,  if your are going to accuse a Boston player of being an asset to the  opposition on the performance over the time Jay has been at the club he is not the player to point a finger at .  Utter disgrace !!!!
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 25, 2016, 11:50:34 AM
Let's get to the new stadium, shot of the rent for York Street, and then see how we fare, should be a bit more cash to go towards better players.
70 grand extra from the rent but 100 grand down from Chestnuts? Looks like we are 30 grand down

I take it you nevered studied Economics? We're not moving just because of the rent - but the maintenance too. I'd expect the new stadium to be kitted out with cheaper, LED lighting and more cost efficient heating, etc - plus it won't need as much TLC to keep it in a good condition.

Plus the increase in taking on non-matchdays from the meeting rooms, gym, etc...
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on October 25, 2016, 12:56:21 PM
Just had a look on f/b and for anyone wanting a genuine debate or make a constructive comment it is an utter waste of time .

To be honest I sacked off Facebook in general years back for that very reason. For the tiny positives of using it no way worth the negatives.  I know you could apply that to virtually all social media but FB just became a stream of either nonsense spouted by idiots or adverts, plus after having kids it made me think twice regarding security and privacy of information.  Anyway, slightly off topic.... :)

Back on it...
I did think that the reaction of Dennis after the game on saturday was a dissapointment, to play out such fustrations in full public view did him no favours and in a round about way slag off the man who rewarded him with a 2 year deal not long back was a sour move.  He just needs to keep his head down, get on with the job, take the knocks on the chin (injuries, budget, etc.) and do his best.  Leave the histrionics to those shouting from the stands  ;)
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 25, 2016, 02:53:41 PM
More debt?

What's yr agenda?

Inuendo in virtually all your posts.  It doesn't matter who the manager is you have a dig.  Do you actually support Boston United?

You state that 73% want Greene out?
How do you arrive at this figure?
It's a poll on the Secret Facebook site.
Don't look at it....if you are feeling slightly depressed it may tip you over the edge.
Some old enough to know better and kids piping up...

On the more debt question
Will it directly affect any posters on here...or the fb page??
It's unbelievable. ..one says DN must throw more ££ at it and another questions the debt.
My Steering Committee idea really does need addressing :)
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: C.B. on October 25, 2016, 03:46:18 PM
Facebook vs the real world.... not a tricky decision.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: worldwide on October 25, 2016, 03:56:44 PM
More debt?

What's yr agenda?

Inuendo in virtually all your posts.  It doesn't matter who the manager is you have a dig.  Do you actually support Boston United?

You state that 73% want Greene out?
How do you arrive at this figure?
It's a poll on the Secret Facebook site.
Don't look at it....if you are feeling slightly depressed it may tip you over the edge.
Some old enough to know better and kids piping up...

On the more debt question
Will it directly affect any posters on here...or the fb page??
It's unbelievable. ..one says DN must throw more ££ at it and another questions the debt.
My Steering Committee idea really does need addressing :)

So a secret Facebook group - I wonder if it was started by one of the "Green Outers"?   It's a wonder the vote wasn't 100% out.

How pathetic.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 25, 2016, 05:56:53 PM
More debt?

What's yr agenda?

Inuendo in virtually all your posts.  It doesn't matter who the manager is you have a dig.  Do you actually support Boston United?

You state that 73% want Greene out?
How do you arrive at this figure?
It's a poll on the Secret Facebook site.
Don't look at it....if you are feeling slightly depressed it may tip you over the edge.
Some old enough to know better and kids piping up...

On the more debt question
Will it directly affect any posters on here...or the fb page??
It's unbelievable. ..one says DN must throw more ££ at it and another questions the debt.
My Steering Committee idea really does need addressing :)

So a secret Facebook group - I wonder if it was started by one of the "Green Outers"?   It's a wonder the vote wasn't 100% out.

How pathetic.
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 Sounds like a group intent on getting Greene out .   If so they may as well put the shutters up .
Andy,s performance at Saturdays match which lead to the DN ,DG meeting yesterday has cemented Den,s positon .  Who would have thought Andy would do Den a favour .
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 25, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
Tbh there are few "voices of reason" on there.
But like at the games empty kettles make the most noise
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 25, 2016, 07:59:15 PM
More debt?

What's yr agenda?

Inuendo in virtually all your posts.  It doesn't matter who the manager is you have a dig.  Do you actually support Boston United?

You state that 73% want Greene out?
How do you arrive at this figure?
It's a poll on the Secret Facebook site.
Don't look at it....if you are feeling slightly depressed it may tip you over the edge.
Some old enough to know better and kids piping up...

On the more debt question
Will it directly affect any posters on here...or the fb page??
It's unbelievable. ..one says DN must throw more ££ at it and another questions the debt.
My Steering Committee idea really does need addressing :)

So a secret Facebook group - I wonder if it was started by one of the "Green Outers"?   It's a wonder the vote wasn't 100% out.

How pathetic.

It was started quite a while ago, before anything took off regarding DG and his outburts against fans. It's not pathetic to discuss your club - you're doing the same on here!
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: worldwide on October 26, 2016, 12:23:25 AM
More debt?

What's yr agenda?

Inuendo in virtually all your posts.  It doesn't matter who the manager is you have a dig.  Do you actually support Boston United?

You state that 73% want Greene out?
How do you arrive at this figure?
It's a poll on the Secret Facebook site.
Don't look at it....if you are feeling slightly depressed it may tip you over the edge.
Some old enough to know better and kids piping up...

On the more debt question
Will it directly affect any posters on here...or the fb page??
It's unbelievable. ..one says DN must throw more ££ at it and another questions the debt.
My Steering Committee idea really does need addressing :)

So a secret Facebook group - I wonder if it was started by one of the "Green Outers"?   It's a wonder the vote wasn't 100% out.

How pathetic.

It was started quite a while ago, before anything took off regarding DG and his outburts against fans. It's not pathetic to discuss your club - you're doing the same on here!

I was referring to the 73% vote not the fact that discussions on Boston Utd take place.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 26, 2016, 09:27:30 AM
Just  had a peek at BUFC facebook ,   a couple of additions caught my eye.
1  . Commenting on the Liam Agnew injury update item inspired someone to conclude Greene out ,
      Is it Greene going round hacking these injured players .?
     

2.  A prolific poster who has delivered a load of gems over the last few days has topped them all by
     declaring that NEWTON IS CLUELESS .   
     Surely he has a friend who reads his comments who will explain to him what an idiotic comment this.
     Them again am I underestimating to this guy ,  is he a billionaire prepared to sink millions into the
     club?


   
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 26, 2016, 10:02:48 AM
Surely...they deserve the tag Knobheads??
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Cavalier on October 26, 2016, 10:55:11 AM
Surely...they deserve the tag Knobheads??

Yes....but let us think it and not say it!
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Winging It on October 26, 2016, 11:12:27 AM
Just  had a peek at BUFC facebook ,   a couple of additions caught my eye.
1  . Commenting on the Liam Agnew injury update item inspired someone to conclude Greene out ,
      Is it Greene going round hacking these injured players .?
     

2.  A prolific poster who has delivered a load of gems over the last few days has topped them all by
     declaring that NEWTON IS CLUELESS .   
     Surely he has a friend who reads his comments who will explain to him what an idiotic comment this.
     Them again am I underestimating to this guy ,  is he a billionaire prepared to sink millions into the
     club?


   

I must have missed that one. Who stated that about our chairman ?  Mr Newton is far from clueless, he is the saviour of this club, without him we would have been watching a AFC United of Boston for the last few years. Some of our fans knock other clubs for 'letting their club's die' and reforming under these sort of banners,  so be careful what you wish for when slating the chairman.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: oxo on October 26, 2016, 03:33:49 PM
Just  had a peek at BUFC facebook ,   a couple of additions caught my eye.
1  . Commenting on the Liam Agnew injury update item inspired someone to conclude Greene out ,
      Is it Greene going round hacking these injured players .?
     

2.  A prolific poster who has delivered a load of gems over the last few days has topped them all by
     declaring that NEWTON IS CLUELESS .   
     Surely he has a friend who reads his comments who will explain to him what an idiotic comment this.
     Them again am I underestimating to this guy ,  is he a billionaire prepared to sink millions into the
     club?


   

I must have missed that one. Who stated that about our chairman ?  Mr Newton is far from clueless, he is the saviour of this club, without him we would have been watching a AFC United of Boston for the last few years. Some of our fans knock other clubs for 'letting their club's die' and reforming under these sort of banners,  so be careful what you wish for when slating the chairman.



   

I must have missed that one. Who stated that about our chairman ?  Mr Newton is far from clueless, he is the saviour of this club, without him we would have been watching a AFC United of Boston for the last few years. Some of our fans knock other clubs for 'letting their club's die' and reforming under these sort of banners,  so be careful what you wish for when slating the chairman.
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You are very wrong, without David there would not have been a AFC United of Boston it would have been the end of any form of Boston United and I know what I am talking about. We owe him and Neil for having a club to support so lets all show our thanks by supporting the club regardless of our own personal views about the manager and some of the players. And yes I will give my opinions on performances as usual be they good or bad.   UTP.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Cavalier on October 26, 2016, 05:33:25 PM
Just to be clear and before this gets misrepresented further, GHM started by giving examples of stupid postings made on Facebook.

howmanynames2pick went on to describe these posters (but I won't repeat the terminology).

No-one in their right mind would dream of making disparaging comments about the Chairman after all he has done for the club.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 26, 2016, 05:37:44 PM
Was I in the right area Cavalier ? :)
I just read these things and my head drops and shakes slowly from side to side...it beggars belief at times.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 27, 2016, 05:14:18 PM
Another one from F/B.

"We are Boston United ,  we screw our fans ".
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Cousin Jack on October 27, 2016, 06:32:06 PM
   Have just checked out Nuneaton FC "Boro Chat/Facebook page. It leads with a pinned post "Abusive comments will not be tolerated on here. This forum is for discussing Boro stuff. If you cant do that without abusing another poster,player,referee,member of staff, then don't post it. Its not actually that hard. Thanks."         Perhaps this is a guideline that the club should adopt on the BUFC Facebook page too?
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: joshb on October 27, 2016, 07:03:04 PM
Another one from F/B.

"We are Boston United ,  we screw our fans ".

We do though.
No incentives to get extra fans into home games or the Non League Days
No travel incentives (the Ferriby cheap buses were the only ones I've come across since Marine/BPA in 2010)
Move our fans from the best part of the ground at the first hint of more than a couple hundred away fans (one exception)
Just expect the same 1000 or so to pay up every season and put up with whatever is served up.
Very limited use of the press and social media to advertise the club and its events and any information (BUSA info, the Fylde ticketing fiasco)
No presence at arguably the regions premier market twice a week when the ground is relatively out of the way for most townspeople

Even Gainsborough are ahead of us in this area for crying out loud and they're in 1964
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 27, 2016, 08:22:47 PM
Another one from F/B.

"We are Boston United ,  we screw our fans ".

We do though.
No incentives to get extra fans into home games or the Non League Days
No travel incentives (the Ferriby cheap buses were the only ones I've come across since Marine/BPA in 2010)
Move our fans from the best part of the ground at the first hint of more than a couple hundred away fans (one exception)
Just expect the same 1000 or so to pay up every season and put up with whatever is served up.
Very limited use of the press and social media to advertise the club and its events and any information (BUSA info, the Fylde ticketing fiasco)
No presence at arguably the regions premier market twice a week when the ground is relatively out of the way for most townspeople

Even Gainsborough are ahead of us in this area for crying out loud and they're in 1964

Another one from F/B.

"We are Boston United ,  we screw our fans ".

We do though.
No incentives to get extra fans into home games or the Non League Days
No travel incentives (the Ferriby cheap buses were the only ones I've come across since Marine/BPA in 2010)
Move our fans from the best part of the ground at the first hint of more than a couple hundred away fans (one exception)
Just expect the same 1000 or so to pay up every season and put up with whatever is served up.
Very limited use of the press and social media to advertise the club and its events and any information (BUSA info, the Fylde ticketing fiasco)
No presence at arguably the regions premier market twice a week when the ground is relatively out of the way for most townspeople

Even Gainsborough are ahead of us in this area for crying out loud and they're in 1964

The above response lacking thought and logic is typical of  many posts on BUFC face book.
Failing to offer incentives to people who do not attend matches is not "screwing " regular fans , in reality it is refraining from subsidizing the freeloaders . 
How would you suggest the club can guarantee to assemble a team that are successful ?
.(every club in the country is waiting for the answer to that one .)

Limited use of media ?   don,t see that ,  Standard, Target , Radio , Bufc facebook and club web site ,  what to you want it in the Daily Sport and Daily Star as well .?  8)    With Craigs sterling work I consider the comments out of order .    The Fylde comments seem common on other club forums .

No presence in the market place ?  good God Josh you make Gainsboro look ultra modern , even my pal Steelihat has an Ipad , computer and a big screen on his toilet wall .  keep up .

What would you do if there was a possibility of 200/250 visiting fans . ?   Ignore the advice of the Ground Safety Committee and Lincs Police and put them in YS end .
Would your employer tell H & SAFETY to go away if visited place of work , and ignore their recommendations .?
No evidence as I can see in your comments that can in any way leave the club open to allegations of "screwing the fans",  only evidence that some expect Chestnuts to keep dipping further into there pockets .
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 27, 2016, 08:45:24 PM
Spot on answer GSM. ...however I do feel improvements could be made. The whole mood at the club seems to have changed since JB went  (this is a personal opinion )

Joshb is a great supporter of the club...I'm sure his ideas would be welcomed if presented correctly..

I'm not sure of the benefits of the marketplace idea...plus who would man it??
I was at Chris Cook Print the other day and he was doing posters  (probably out his own pocket )
Maybe if we took a few and asked our local shops to display them??....tbh I'm as guilty as the next guy for not taking one.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on October 27, 2016, 11:18:57 PM
Was in Boston on Wednesday. Very unimpressed with the market. Bit of fruit and veg and some naff fishing tackle. A meat van too. Skipped it all and went to M&S, Oldrids and Mountains. I reckon it's mainly oldies that keep these sort of markets going and they will probably disappear in the not too distant future. Just like most of the daily newspapers.

It's youngsters that are needed at games. How do you prise them away from their smart phones, Sky Sports, Premier League, Playstations and McDonald's Drive Thrus ? A much wider issue than just Boston Utd.

TEP
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 28, 2016, 09:28:17 AM
Peterborough had a mobile stall in the city centre yesterday - first time I've seen it, though. Probably for the run up to Christmas..
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 28, 2016, 09:39:26 AM
Was in Boston on Wednesday. Very unimpressed with the market. Bit of fruit and veg and some naff fishing tackle. A meat van too. Skipped it all and went to M&S, Oldrids and Mountains. I reckon it's mainly oldies that keep these sort of markets going and they will probably disappear in the not too distant future. Just like most of the daily newspapers.

It's youngsters that are needed at games. How do you prise them away from their smart phones, Sky Sports, Premier League, Playstations and McDonald's Drive Thrus ? A much wider issue than just Boston Utd.

TEP

The last paragraph is an accurate account on why gates nationwide are falling .

Also fair account of market too ,   not sure abut your fishing tackle comments , maybe a cheap job lot Tipps which are suitable for hooking empty beer cans ""
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 28, 2016, 11:14:54 AM

a lot of work being done here

http://pilgrimsuitc.co.uk/
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 28, 2016, 12:42:54 PM
Just out of interest how many full time employees does the club have ?
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 28, 2016, 12:49:03 PM
Just out of interest how many full time employees does the club have ?

http://www.bostonunited.co.uk/a/whos-who-2016-2017-28949.html

I'm assuming Chief Exec, Office Admin and Commercial/Director are full time. The community employees are part of a separate concern.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Cavalier on October 28, 2016, 03:54:55 PM

a lot of work being done here

http://pilgrimsuitc.co.uk/

Had to smile when I read that the recent walking football tourmanent was 'excellently run.......'
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: joshb on October 28, 2016, 05:31:26 PM
Another one from F/B.

"We are Boston United ,  we screw our fans ".

We do though.
No incentives to get extra fans into home games or the Non League Days
No travel incentives (the Ferriby cheap buses were the only ones I've come across since Marine/BPA in 2010)
Move our fans from the best part of the ground at the first hint of more than a couple hundred away fans (one exception)
Just expect the same 1000 or so to pay up every season and put up with whatever is served up.
Very limited use of the press and social media to advertise the club and its events and any information (BUSA info, the Fylde ticketing fiasco)
No presence at arguably the regions premier market twice a week when the ground is relatively out of the way for most townspeople

Even Gainsborough are ahead of us in this area for crying out loud and they're in 1964



The above response lacking thought and logic is typical of  many posts on BUFC face book.
Failing to offer incentives to people who do not attend matches is not "screwing " regular fans , in reality it is refraining from subsidizing the freeloaders . 
How would you suggest the club can guarantee to assemble a team that are successful ?
.(every club in the country is waiting for the answer to that one .)

Limited use of media ?   don,t see that ,  Standard, Target , Radio , Bufc facebook and club web site ,  what to you want it in the Daily Sport and Daily Star as well .?  8)    With Craigs sterling work I consider the comments out of order .    The Fylde comments seem common on other club forums .

No presence in the market place ?  good God Josh you make Gainsboro look ultra modern , even my pal Steelihat has an Ipad , computer and a big screen on his toilet wall .  keep up .

What would you do if there was a possibility of 200/250 visiting fans . ?   Ignore the advice of the Ground Safety Committee and Lincs Police and put them in YS end .
Would your employer tell H & SAFETY to go away if visited place of work , and ignore their recommendations .?
No evidence as I can see in your comments that can in any way leave the club open to allegations of "screwing the fans",  only evidence that some expect Chestnuts to keep dipping further into there pockets .

Do we have anything around town? Even our shop went years ago and we're relying on Cookie out of his own pocket perhaps to do bits and bobs for the youth team from his shop (which is out of the way)
There's no offers to attract this Premier League, Xbox generation of young supporter which in turn could carry over to reward loyal ST holders on the odd occasion.
It seems like they got round to the Fylde ticket situation but can't recall any details of travel to Nuneaton and Telford being placed anywhere other then the match programme (which can often run out before the game), potentially hindering/denying fans the opportunity to watch the team.
And as regards away fans it really isn't difficult. Give them the seats behind the goal or that end blue block of the stand if they really need it (unlikely as the corner will easily take 3-400 if it had to) and just stick a cheap fence in at the walkway at the front. That has been an issue however ever since we moved the tunnel, which did that job before.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 28, 2016, 09:18:37 PM
Another one from F/B.

"We are Boston United ,  we screw our fans ".

We do though.
No incentives to get extra fans into home games or the Non League Days
No travel incentives (the Ferriby cheap buses were the only ones I've come across since Marine/BPA in 2010)
Move our fans from the best part of the ground at the first hint of more than a couple hundred away fans (one exception)
Just expect the same 1000 or so to pay up every season and put up with whatever is served up.
Very limited use of the press and social media to advertise the club and its events and any information (BUSA info, the Fylde ticketing fiasco)
No presence at arguably the regions premier market twice a week when the ground is relatively out of the way for most townspeople

Even Gainsborough are ahead of us in this area for crying out loud and they're in 1964



The above response lacking thought and logic is typical of  many posts on BUFC face book.
Failing to offer incentives to people who do not attend matches is not "screwing " regular fans , in reality it is refraining from subsidizing the freeloaders . 
How would you suggest the club can guarantee to assemble a team that are successful ?
.(every club in the country is waiting for the answer to that one .)

Limited use of media ?   don,t see that ,  Standard, Target , Radio , Bufc facebook and club web site ,  what to you want it in the Daily Sport and Daily Star as well .?  8)    With Craigs sterling work I consider the comments out of order .    The Fylde comments seem common on other club forums .

No presence in the market place ?  good God Josh you make Gainsboro look ultra modern , even my pal Steelihat has an Ipad , computer and a big screen on his toilet wall .  keep up .

What would you do if there was a possibility of 200/250 visiting fans . ?   Ignore the advice of the Ground Safety Committee and Lincs Police and put them in YS end .
Would your employer tell H & SAFETY to go away if visited place of work , and ignore their recommendations .?
No evidence as I can see in your comments that can in any way leave the club open to allegations of "screwing the fans",  only evidence that some expect Chestnuts to keep dipping further into there pockets .

Do we have anything around town? Even our shop went years ago and we're relying on Cookie out of his own pocket perhaps to do bits and bobs for the youth team from his shop (which is out of the way)
There's no offers to attract this Premier League, Xbox generation of young supporter which in turn could carry over to reward loyal ST holders on the odd occasion.
It seems like they got round to the Fylde ticket situation but can't recall any details of travel to Nuneaton and Telford being placed anywhere other then the match programme (which can often run out before the game), potentially hindering/denying fans the opportunity to watch the team.
And as regards away fans it really isn't difficult. Give them the seats behind the goal or that end blue block of the stand if they really need it (unlikely as the corner will easily take 3-400 if it had to) and just stick a cheap fence in at the walkway at the front. That has been an issue however ever since we moved the tunnel, which did that job before.

You do not offer details of a practical "incentive" to get extra people through the gates . One off £10-£5 admission prices do not work as clubs if have tried it will tell you .   Suggest an idea to get the X Box generation to matches ,  no club has come up with an answer yet .  Sky TV is the real impact on crowd numbers nationwide .

I think people are more than capable of locating fixtures , venues etc  for matches thanks to social media etc ,  patronizing to suggest thy can,t .  We are Boston Und, not GTFC 1964 . : 8)

I take it you have no practical experience of ground alterations or costings , nor ground safety ,  health & safety etc .these bodies do not do "cheap fences " and work has to adhere to high (expensive) standard .  It seems that it has not occurred to you that  these alterations will only apply to maybe only 3 matches or less in the remaining time at YS , thus rendering them not cost efficient .

O K. having ideas but the hard fact in any business  they need to be self funding ,  or was you looking to Chestnuts to foot the loss .

One trick you have missed is emulating the Imps and Mariners  fans,  they got frustrated at the clubs not having money in the playing budget so thy set to and raised a substantial amount themselves .

You have still not responded to how BUFC have screwed the fans .
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Dipdodah on October 29, 2016, 10:30:46 AM
Most bemoan the high percentage of migrants in the town.

Various figures are touted about, but if we say 15,000 in the area, that is a very big percentage of the local population not attending any matches.

Could we not form some kind of social club aimed at these people. Football is a great ambassador ( take the 1914 match between allies and Germans ).

Could someone not hand out leaflets in various languages inviting them to a match?  Do some kind of deal, a two for one entry.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 29, 2016, 01:11:17 PM
Most bemoan the high percentage of migrants in the town.

Various figures are touted about, but if we say 15,000 in the area, that is a very big percentage of the local population not attending any matches.

Could we not form some kind of social club aimed at these people. Football is a great ambassador ( take the 1914 match between allies and Germans ).

Could someone not hand out leaflets in various languages inviting them to a match?  Do some kind of deal, a two for one entry.

Just a thought.

Basketball is a far bigger sport in Lithuania etc so I'm lead to believe..
Giving foreigners 2 for 1 might just take a few locals over the edge!!
And after ww1 game the war sadly dragged on.
I treated a Polish friend and his gf to a game when hurst and Scott were here.....we lost 0-3...awful game and they've never been back.
Sorry to pee on your parade....however I think the leaflet idea is a good one.
I've a feeling it's been tried a few years back but I don't think it was a sustained effort..
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Ed Kandi on October 29, 2016, 02:11:02 PM
I'm glad Den decided to stay, well done DN  8)
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Dipdodah on October 29, 2016, 04:27:28 PM
Most bemoan the high percentage of migrants in the town.

Various figures are touted about, but if we say 15,000 in the area, that is a very big percentage of the local population not attending any matches.

Could we not form some kind of social club aimed at these people. Football is a great ambassador ( take the 1914 match between allies and Germans ).

Could someone not hand out leaflets in various languages inviting them to a match?  Do some kind of deal, a two for one entry.

Just a thought.

Basketball is a far bigger sport in Lithuania etc so I'm lead to believe..
Giving foreigners 2 for 1 might just take a few locals over the edge!!
And after ww1 game the war sadly dragged on.
I treated a Polish friend and his gf to a game when hurst and Scott were here.....we lost 0-3...awful game and they've never been back.
Sorry to pee on your parade....however I think the leaflet idea is a good one.
I've a feeling it's been tried a few years back but I don't think it was a sustained effort..

Seems like with all this untapped fan base, some way of encouraging them should be looked in to.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on October 29, 2016, 04:35:13 PM
Boston was the highest vote of Out in the referendum. A clear two fingers up to those you say you want to attract into the ground. Do you honestly think any forgien national would think it would be a welcoming and supportive environment? No, neither would I.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 29, 2016, 05:37:16 PM
Boston was the highest vote of Out in the referendum. A clear two fingers up to those you say you want to attract into the ground. Do you honestly think any forgien national would think it would be a welcoming and supportive environment? No, neither would I.

Be interesting if other posters on here agree with me Mickey but I suspect you got this impression from reading the Daily Mail and the media in general .    Almost all the migrants in Boston that I meet would treat your comments with distain and disappointment .
Those I  meet that speak English are always polite and friendly , show respect and receive respect , some even making light hearted comments about the referendum .   They , like most Bostonians understand there are gains and losses for both parties and me all live happily together whatever the papers and BBC would like you to believe .
 
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 29, 2016, 05:49:13 PM
Have to agree ghm. ..I've asked the Lithuanian and polish friends I have to honestly answer if there's been an anti feeling.  They've had none....I realise there have been cases which is disappointing.  The vote, if it was about migration was more to do with quelling more coming in rather than about those that were here
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on October 29, 2016, 07:04:12 PM
Haha brilliant, no really that's brilliant. Of course the last few months have been all beer and stittles for them...

Oh and the daily mail is useful as chip paper and that's it. If you think my views are formed from that rag you have no clue.

Genuine question then for you guys who have all these 'friends' from those communities, have you asked them to come? Have you spoken about why they don't if that's their preference? Have you taken those points to the club? Have you tried to encourage them to attend at all?
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 29, 2016, 07:44:16 PM
Haha brilliant, no really that's brilliant. Of course the last few months have been all beer and stittles for them...

Oh and the daily mail is useful as chip paper and that's it. If you think my views are formed from that rag you have no clue.

Genuine question then for you guys who have all these 'friends' from those communities, have you asked them to come? Have you spoken about why they don't if that's their preference? Have you taken those points to the club? Have you tried to encourage them to attend at all?

One of our posters has explained his experience of taking migrants to a match .  They don,t appear to have  interest in English football is my assumption , when given a " no "  I continue discussing subjects I know they are interested in , like gardening and their land of birth .   
I would considerate in rude to indicate to them that they should attend ,   likewise my English friends would considerer me rude if I insisted they should have voted Stay ..

Despite our many moans one thing we retain is freedom of speech ,   lets all respect it .
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on October 30, 2016, 12:05:48 AM
They don't appear to have an interest so you have done nothing to promote the club or the experience to them. Ok, just so we are clear.  But let's complain the club does not do enough to encourage them....  ::) :dan
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Dipdodah on October 30, 2016, 09:01:05 AM
They don't appear to have an interest so you have done nothing to promote the club or the experience to them. Ok, just so we are clear.  But let's complain the club does not do enough to encourage them....  ::) :dan

I do not always agree with your political views, but on this we may have some common ground :o

The club is a club for the community, so why not serve the community?  By the community, I mean everyone.

If the migrant population are made welcome, then maybe some will start attending matches.

Open the social club up for specialist Polish nights, invite them for a welcome party.  Offer the hand of friendship.

Hold some markets at the ground, have specialist stalls and integrate with the English community.

When they know where the ground is and how friendly we are, invite them to a match.

Extend the hand of friendship and make them welcome, you never know.
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: green hats mate on October 30, 2016, 01:06:39 PM
They don't appear to have an interest so you have done nothing to promote the club or the experience to them. Ok, just so we are clear.  But let's complain the club does not do enough to encourage them....  ::) :dan

I do not always agree with your political views, but on this we may have some common ground :o

The club is a club for the community, so why not serve the community?  By the community, I mean everyone.

If the migrant population are made welcome, then maybe some will start attending matches.

Open the social club up for specialist Polish nights, invite them for a welcome party.  Offer the hand of friendship.

Hold some markets at the ground, have specialist stalls and integrate with the English community.

When they know where the ground is and how friendly we are, invite them to a match.

Extend the hand of friendship and make them welcome, you never know.

Done my bit to promote integration Dip,   had a bit of success . I,ve received an invitation to a wedding next Friday . :)   
Title: Re: Good on ya Den.
Post by: Dipdodah on October 30, 2016, 01:44:45 PM
Best bib and tucker.