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Title: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: howmanynames2pick on January 04, 2014, 06:36:11 PM
Well done
Thought Miller was excellent today
Thought minutes clapping for Barbera was excellent
Presentation to the Newsh for his 100 goals was a nice touch
Thought his celebration was excellent for his 101st
Thought Vauxhall were poor

Just a note to KoN
In the absence of a fitness coach should be having a team hairdresser?
Mohicans, Alice bands and Charlie's "set up"?
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: spannerman on January 04, 2014, 06:53:37 PM
Typical I pick up a bug miss the game and 7 goals  :(
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: kingofnaves on January 04, 2014, 07:22:44 PM
What's a mess!
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: B Grimes on January 05, 2014, 09:08:26 AM
The three points were all that matters end of! However how many like me are getting concerned about the tactical nous of DG?

Garner up front is a truly staggering decision, and please dont say he scored so the decision was justified, it was lunacy, especially two of the best forwards in the league were playing as extra full backs some 30, 40 yards away from him and instead of closing them down high up the pitch we did so pretty much from the half way line. As it has proven so many time, it just invites pressure
When the wall jumped over their mishit free kick, for 15 mins, we were in total panic mode and against a really poor side, and in which we went from 4-5-1 (when will DG get rid of this absurd system btw, its killing us?) to 3-5-2 and then 4-4-2, no wonder so many looked confused!. How many of us were thinking of the BPA when their second went in btw? ;D
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Artemis on January 05, 2014, 02:02:24 PM
!. How many of us were thinking of the BPA when their second went in btw? ;D

It was Harrogate when a 3-0 lead ended in a draw.
I thought Garner did well up front and it has nothing to do with him scoring.
Ross once again proved why he should be a first choice in midfield  He had a part in 4 of the goals including the penalty.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Bostonshire on January 05, 2014, 02:12:32 PM
In truth, Gardner up front for the first 45 was a gem, scored one and flicked the ball down for the the first, also his hold up play was spot on, People moan about having a big forward but in truth with some of the players we have it be so hard for a big center forward to stake a claim in the team, I wouldnt want us to waist that money on a person who gonna spend half the games polishing the bench with his butt, so the idea of using someone like gardner when needed his a decent idea.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: howmanynames2pick on January 05, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
The three points were all that matters end of! However how many like me are getting concerned about the tactical nous of DG?

Garner up front is a truly staggering decision, and please dont say he scored so the decision was justified, it was lunacy, especially two of the best forwards in the league were playing as extra full backs some 30, 40 yards away from him and instead of closing them down high up the pitch we did so pretty much from the half way line. As it has proven so many time, it just invites pressure
When the wall jumped over their mishit free kick, for 15 mins, we were in total panic mode and against a really poor side, and in which we went from 4-5-1 (when will DG get rid of this absurd system btw, its killing us?) to 3-5-2 and then 4-4-2, no wonder so many looked confused!. How many of us were thinking of the BPA when their second went in btw? ;D


Possibly you could say he is a tactical genius?
The bench only had a few kids out of the youth team and Charlie.
Would it have been better to start with him??.
The thread is Boston 5 Vauxhall 2 so it can't be too bad!
We've also got a game on Tuesday night, so poss maybe an eye on that?
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: green hats mate on January 05, 2014, 04:22:28 PM
The three points were all that matters end of! However how many like me are getting concerned about the tactical nous of DG?

Garner up front is a truly staggering decision, and please dont say he scored so the decision was justified, it was lunacy, especially two of the best forwards in the league were playing as extra full backs some 30, 40 yards away from him and instead of closing them down high up the pitch we did so pretty much from the half way line. As it has proven so many time, it just invites pressure
When the wall jumped over their mishit free kick, for 15 mins, we were in total panic mode and against a really poor side, and in which we went from 4-5-1 (when will DG get rid of this absurd system btw, its killing us?) to 3-5-2 and then 4-4-2, no wonder so many looked confused!. How many of us were thinking of the BPA when their second went in btw? ;D

Not at all concerned about Green tactical nous as he has deployed 3/4 different formations with a certain degree of success ,  Remember Rob & Paul could not even master the 4-3-3 at Boston or Grimsby .
Agree with most Bostonshires comments re: Garner up front as a stopcap ,  good to see Forest manger use the same ploy today  ;).  Can,t blame the manager for defensive wall error .
Always possible to find faults but  a system killing us that played a part in a game in which we won and scored 5 goals ........ come on BG  I hope Mrs B is more tolerant than that with your bacon frying  :o
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on January 05, 2014, 06:28:45 PM
It's not the first time we have played a defender up front ..... remember Greg Strong :)
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: yam man on January 05, 2014, 06:40:39 PM
It's not the first time we have played a defender up front ..... remember Greg Strong :)

Actually, no.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: miele on January 05, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
WELL done to all against a poor side admitted but a 5 goals and 3 points we must be pleased.
what I do no is we need the likes of MARRS and GARNER in defence at 3-2 we never looked much better than them 4 a while.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on January 05, 2014, 07:00:49 PM
VM weren't the best yesterday but there was a moment when they were back in the game and many wouldn't have been surprised if they had got a third goal. Like most teams in this league, on their day they are capable of beating anyone and over the course of the last few weeks they have beaten Harrogate and drawn with Hednesford (and should have won).

Yam Man, if you can't remember Greg Strong then you are either too young or maybe just too old :)

DL
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: miele on January 05, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
DL  are you saying we were lucky to catch VM on one of there bad days.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on January 05, 2014, 07:36:47 PM
Miele - no - but they are mid-table and more than capable of beating any team in this league on their day. Maybe yesterday they were a bit below par - and we raised our game. Remember we have been a bit poor and not won in the league for 5 games. If VM had won yesterday then they would have only been 2 points behind us.

DL
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on January 05, 2014, 08:14:39 PM
DL great post. Not once did their keeper launch it long, always played from the back. Twice in the first half possibly three times could have scored. So a decent three points, people think that we are BUFC we should murder teams but its not the case.

The last third of the season will be interesting. If DG sorts his system out we will be there hopefully in the mix, as for the atmosphere we won but you just wouldnt know it.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: kingofnaves on January 05, 2014, 08:41:31 PM
Agree FC! King looks a decent signing.VM were a decent team who tried to play football even when they were 3 0 domatchedit to them for making it a great game to watch.
By the way £81 to watch Arsenal V Spurs (televised) or £12 to watch 22 honest players!!!Think I picked the right match!
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 05, 2014, 09:26:48 PM
It's not the first time we have played a defender up front ..... remember Greg Strong :)
And Paul Ellender, Tom Ward...
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: kingofnaves on January 05, 2014, 09:47:45 PM
Tony 'The Crane' Crane
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Artemis on January 05, 2014, 10:27:00 PM
It's not the first time we have played a defender up front ..... remember Greg Strong :)
And Paul Ellender, Tom Ward...

I seem to remember in 1968/69 we had a Goal keeper who played one game as centre forward and scored a hatrick.  Think his name was Ken Simpkins. (It was against Goole Town and losing 2-0 but eventually won 4-2.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Carl Newell on January 05, 2014, 10:43:53 PM
Daryl Clare wasn't too keen on defenders playing up front...
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: bostonwoody on January 05, 2014, 11:13:10 PM
I'm surprised that nobody has commented about the Vauxhall keeper.

He was outstanding, I appreciate that's his job but without him it could easily have been 8 or 9. I totally agree we defended far too deep at times but I feel we were good value for a 5 - 2 scoreline.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Tash on January 05, 2014, 11:39:11 PM
WELL done to all against a poor side admitted but a 5 goals and 3 points we must be pleased.
what I do no is we need the likes of MARRS and GARNER in defence at 3-2 we never looked much better than them 4 a while.

When we went 3-0 up Garner was moved back to defence, then we conceded two quick goals.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: B Grimes on January 06, 2014, 07:32:52 AM

Always possible to find faults but  a system killing us that played a part in a game in which we won and scored 5 goals ........ come on BG  I hope Mrs B is more tolerant than that with your bacon frying  :o

Wasn't really talking so much about Sat, but asm prepared to yet again bow to others here GHM, and quickly take back everything I have said about the negativity killing us and our offensive qualities. In doing so I have already dismissed the fact that in all our league games we have led at half time, what twice now, and of all the league goals scored am guessing over two thirds have come in the second half once we invariably have to chase the game, but what do I know? ;D

You're right back to the frying pan for me mate! ;D
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: B Grimes on January 06, 2014, 07:39:42 AM
DL great post. Not once did their keeper launch it long, always played from the back. Twice in the first half possibly three times could have scored. So a decent three points, people think that we are BUFC we should murder teams but its not the case.

The last third of the season will be interesting. If DG sorts his system out we will be there hopefully in the mix, as for the atmosphere we won but you just wouldnt know it.

You are right, on reflection, very rarely did their keeper kick it from his hands, preferring to roll it out at every occasion, and we let him. It was tho threee decent and certainly valuable points, even tho they were poor on the day, as DL rightly points out, the league is ultra competitive, with anyone really capable of beating anyone else and were almost any team in the top half to win 4, 5 on the bounce, so close is it, it would probably see them in the top five. If we tomorrow and manage the same on Saturday which wont be easy, we could considering the recent crazy results everywhere be in the top four.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: howmanynames2pick on January 06, 2014, 11:07:57 AM
As an aside a lad near me had a bet on Boston to score 4 @ 8-1...he was well happy when Miller scored!
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: kingofnaves on January 06, 2014, 01:44:05 PM
As an aside a lad near me had a bet on Boston to score 4 @ 8-1...he was well happy when Miller scored!
coral punter nearly won 190 grand but the last minute winner at Old Trafford messed it up :'(
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: howmanynames2pick on January 06, 2014, 01:45:44 PM
As an aside a lad near me had a bet on Boston to score 4 @ 8-1...he was well happy when Miller scored!
coral punter nearly won 190 grand but the last minute winner at Old Trafford messed it up :'(
you really need to be in with these far east guys :)
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Artemis on January 06, 2014, 02:47:14 PM
As an aside a lad near me had a bet on Boston to score 4 @ 8-1...he was well happy when Miller scored!

I got 50/1 for correct scores of 5-0 and 5-1 - think it was 80/1 for 5-2 which I didn't bet!
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: miele on January 06, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
WELL done to all against a poor side admitted but a 5 goals and 3 points we must be pleased.
what I do no is we need the likes of MARRS and GARNER in defence at 3-2 we never looked much better than them 4 a while.

When we went 3-0 up Garner was moved back to defence, then we conceded two quick goals.
MMmmm do you think GARNER should do the decent thing and move on we cant be doing with him letting 2 goals in.
what I did notice second half there no.3 was well beating some of our players for pace at times.
i think MOM was the team well done to all.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: B Grimes on January 06, 2014, 05:30:11 PM
WELL done to all against a poor side admitted but a 5 goals and 3 points we must be pleased.
what I do no is we need the likes of MARRS and GARNER in defence at 3-2 we never looked much better than them 4 a while.

When we went 3-0 up Garner was moved back to defence, then we conceded two quick goals.
MMmmm do you think GARNER should do the decent thing and move on we cant be doing with him letting 2 goals in.
what I did notice second half there no.3 was well beating some of our players for pace at times.
i think MOM was the team well done to all.

Are you serious miele? Where do you get these ideas of yours from?
The first goal was down to a calamitous decision by the wall to practice their end of season dance pogo dancing routine, whilst the second came, if I remember rightly, with Rene getting caught the wrong side of their forward. Move on!!! over indulgence in hallucination drugs have a lot to answer for.  ???
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: miele on January 06, 2014, 05:45:55 PM
BG I was hopeing TASH would thro some light on his comment  :) ;)
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: bostonwoody on January 06, 2014, 05:54:31 PM
The point Tash was making was that we reverted to a more defensive formation, allowing Vauxhall to push us back and hence look more dangerous.

In the first half with Garner up front we were allowed to defend with a higher line as they were concentrating on their own defending.

Enough light??
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: miele on January 06, 2014, 06:01:27 PM
thanks for that bad move from management then >:(
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: B Grimes on January 06, 2014, 06:32:15 PM
BG I was hopeing TASH would thro some light on his comment  :) ;)

Okay, forgiven then! ;D

keep taking the pills tho mate, they will kick in at some stage! ;)
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: bostonian on January 06, 2014, 07:28:50 PM
miele, what have you got against the current management team? we are in a much better position than last season and we are playing some very good football with a chance of making the playoffs.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Bostonshire on January 06, 2014, 07:49:56 PM
The point Tash was making was that we reverted to a more defensive formation, allowing Vauxhall to push us back and hence look more dangerous.

In the first half with Garner up front we were allowed to defend with a higher line as they were concentrating on their own defending.

Enough light??

Id agree with this, with gardner up front we started defending from the front aswel, Once we moved him back our defence started and ended at the back, It also highlights the fact we have a lot of good players but how many do we have outside the back line that defend from the front and middle
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Tash on January 06, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
WELL done to all against a poor side admitted but a 5 goals and 3 points we must be pleased.
what I do no is we need the likes of MARRS and GARNER in defence at 3-2 we never looked much better than them 4 a while.

When we went 3-0 up Garner was moved back to defence, then we conceded two quick goals.
MMmmm do you think GARNER should do the decent thing and move on we cant be doing with him letting 2 goals in.
what I did notice second half there no.3 was well beating some of our players for pace at times.
i think MOM was the team well done to all.

No just pointing out futile reasoning.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: Eddie Killick on January 06, 2014, 09:10:56 PM
In a previous posting, I did suggest moving Garner up front as an experiment but got slated for it!!!! I might add that I did not intend it to be a permanent move unless we signed someone of a similar standard to replace him in defence.
Title: Re: Boston 5 Vauxhall 2
Post by: green hats mate on January 06, 2014, 09:48:19 PM
BG I was hopeing TASH would thro some light on his comment  :) ;)

Iwould think Tash is like many more of us who have read your comments ,  its not light we need but a dark room .