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Title: Vs Chorley
Post by: PompeyPilgrim on October 17, 2009, 03:54:41 PM
Help can't get into the Match Dday thing on the O/S as the work internet blocks it bah!  What's the score please???

Up the Pilgrims!
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on October 17, 2009, 03:57:13 PM
2-1 up, both Danny Davidson.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ken Fox on October 17, 2009, 03:58:01 PM
Here's a shot from the first half of the man of the moment.

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/chorl1.jpg)
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: PompeyPilgrim on October 17, 2009, 04:01:02 PM
Thanks MNH and Ken.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ken Fox on October 17, 2009, 04:04:07 PM
And here he is scoring the first goal - he flicked it into the left corner from here.

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/chorl2.jpg)
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on October 17, 2009, 04:22:59 PM
Fearns gets his second, now 2-2.  Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on October 17, 2009, 04:24:29 PM
3-2 up, Sleath.  Ahhhhhh.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: PompeyPilgrim on October 17, 2009, 04:56:26 PM
I assume that's game over and 3-2 to us???
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ken Fox on October 17, 2009, 05:11:45 PM
Yes, a 3-2 win. Only eight hundred odd there. The draw for the next round is on Monday morning sometime.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ken Fox on October 17, 2009, 05:32:52 PM
And another shot - Danny Sleath celebrates his goal.

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/chorl3.jpg)

Hopefully more pics as I head home on the train shortly.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: father Ted on October 17, 2009, 05:42:00 PM
 Just about  got Scott' s Twitters on rail journey from  Lancs Coast  - Staffs..
    Bit surprised at the lowish attendance ..
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: father Ted on October 17, 2009, 05:44:44 PM
 Now BIG game on at  Nantwich next Sat ..will try and make it..
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Shodfried on October 17, 2009, 06:08:40 PM
J
    Bit surprised at the lowish attendance ..

I'm not.

3 games in 8 days stretches most pockets, if people were going to miss one it was today.

I bet most teams would be envious of our gate today, certainly a number of Conference clubs would be happy with just under 900 PAYING customers.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: BUFC Loyal on October 17, 2009, 06:10:29 PM
ok not amazing today but were thorugh thats all that matters

looking forward to nantwich now got potential to be a great game + will show how far we've progressed having lost 5-0 both times to them
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on October 17, 2009, 06:21:19 PM
Not a great performance by any means today.Don't know if it was the effects of a third game in a week,or going two up in the first nine minutes,but we looked a bit lazy at times.Still,a win is a win in a cup-tie,and we're through to the next round,and that's all that matters in the end.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Adam on October 17, 2009, 06:26:12 PM
We've got through a tough schedule in this past week with maximum points/progress and minimum injuries, so I'm not going to worry about a performance that was a touch lacklustre at times.

Four consecutive wins' worth of confidence and two training sessions in the week is the ideal preparation for the Nantwich match on Saturday... Let's see how far we've come.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: woad_pilgrim on October 17, 2009, 06:27:12 PM
We where poor today, but despite this created enough chances to have won the game comfortably. It's said that the best teams can win when playing poorly well that's certainly true today and 3 goals into the bargain as well. As Tom says we're through to the next round that's all that really matters.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Carl Newell on October 17, 2009, 06:49:28 PM
Was a good 1st half performance went 2 up early with relatively tame but awkward to deal with headers. After the erly goals we opened them up with ease finding masses of room between their defence and midfield but we were unable to add to the scorline. Chorley started to get in the game and Evans made a good save 1 on 1.  On the stroke of half time their number 9 skipped past Cannoville (not seen that before this season) and scored a fantastic goal in the top corner. Second half was scrappy and the game was 50/50 with both teams working hard but struggling to play football only memborable points of the second half were the goals their number 9 again scored a good goal with a sort of over head kick and Sleath hit an ustoppable shot into the bottom corner from the edge of the area. Not the best game of football ever but a worthwhile cup game.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: fcum_91 on October 17, 2009, 07:01:03 PM
How many fans did Chorley bring?
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Carl Newell on October 17, 2009, 07:03:03 PM
roughly 30-35
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: woad_pilgrim on October 17, 2009, 07:05:20 PM
Number 9 was Terry Fearns, his last 4 seasons he has played 3 at Conf North and 1 at Conf Nat. In the 3 Conf North seasons he has scored 32, 25 and 17 goals and is still too good for this level let alone the 1 below. Think he struggled a bit in his 1 season at Conf Nat level though.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on October 17, 2009, 07:07:35 PM
Was a good 1st half performance went 2 up early with relatively tame but awkward to deal with headers. After the erly goals we opened them up with ease finding masses of room between their defence and midfield but we were unable to add to the scorline. Chorley started to get in the game and Evans made a good save 1 on 1.  On the stroke of half time their number 9 skipped past Cannoville (not seen that before this season) and scored a fantastic goal in the top corner. Second half was scrappy and the game was 50/50 with both teams working hard but struggling to play football only memborable points of the second half were the goals their number 9 again scored a good goal with a sort of over head kick and Sleath hit an ustoppable shot into the bottom corner from the edge of the area. Not the best game of football ever but a worthwhile cup game.

There were two or three golden chances for us to wrap it up in the second half, Newsham missed one and the keeper made a superb save on another.  If Camm had hit the inside of the post in the first half to make it 3-0 I think we'd have gone on to get a hat full
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Carl Newell on October 17, 2009, 07:14:51 PM
If we are still after another forward would he be worth persuading to move to York Street??
He would certainly score goals but don't know if he would fit into our system or have the work rate needed. He isn't tall enough to play the centre forward role and i didn't think he has the energy Newsham has or would keep Yates out of the team as he is an out and out forward unlike Yates who plays basically as Winger without the defencive responsibities.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Carl Newell on October 17, 2009, 07:18:57 PM
Yes agree about the 1s half could have been 4/5 up at half time (didn't the chance that rattled the post in the first half fall to Yates not Camm.) I saw the chances in second half as half chances.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ken Fox on October 17, 2009, 07:34:04 PM
A few more pics while I've got broadband at Lincoln on the way home!

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Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: father Ted on October 17, 2009, 07:39:13 PM
  Look forward to next next round draw of FA TROPHY
  See  on the  Fa Site among others .. Brigg beat Burscough ..and Leek Town beat Kendal  !
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on October 17, 2009, 07:44:27 PM
  Look forward to next next round draw of FA TROPHY
  See  on the  Fa Site among others .. Brigg beat Burscough ..and Leek Town beat Kendal  !
Also Bradford PA who lost at home to Clitheroe
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Bartmac on October 17, 2009, 07:45:13 PM
I'm a bit disappointed Ken, you haven't got a photo of Clarkey sat on the terrace near the tuck shop eating his chips and gravy, and looking thoroughly pissed off! ;D
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: father Ted on October 17, 2009, 08:05:13 PM
I 'll  settle for Glapwell again ..
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Carl Newell on October 17, 2009, 08:16:33 PM
Drawing Brigg would give us a chance to avenge the FA Cup defeat 5 or 6 years ago.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ken Fox on October 17, 2009, 08:38:49 PM
A few more pics while I'm waiting at Doncaster for the train to Leeds.

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Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ken Fox on October 17, 2009, 09:47:36 PM
Almost home. A few more pics from the top deck of the No 95 bus!

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Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ken Fox on October 17, 2009, 10:57:24 PM
Last set of pics probably...

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/chorl38.jpg)

I'm a bit disappointed Ken, you haven't got a photo of Clarkey sat on the terrace near the tuck shop eating his chips and gravy, and looking thoroughly pissed off! ;D

Best I could do I'm afraid...

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Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: leicester pilgrim on October 18, 2009, 07:54:43 AM

We won the match yesterday and it will be the managers' prerogative to stick with a team that is currently winning. But for me there were some clear warning signs in yesterday's performance and things do need freshening up a little bit.

Chorley were from a lower league and it showed. How many times in the early stages did their players dribble the ball straight out of play whilst not under pressure? In truth, I don't think Chorley were much better than Spalding. A win is a win, but it should have been a whole lot more convincing.

We started the game well and were two goals up very early on. But after that, complacency seemed to set in. It was Lowestoft all over again, but with the safety of a two goal cushion. At times yesterday I thought Chorley looked like they wanted it more than we did.

Any teams that finds itself two goals up at home, especially against lower league opposition, and then gets pegged back, deserves a rollocking.

Luck played a part in yesterday's result. Did Davidson really mean to score the opening goal, or was it meant to be a flick to the far post? And the chance that Chorley missed when their striker blasted the ball into Tom Evans' face had "goal" written all over it. Good save or bad miss? I don't think Tom knew too much about it so I'm going with the latter.

Some of our forward players are equally guilty of missing good chances. The cross that Dan Cotton put into the box in the second half was an absolute beach. If David Beckham had put that ball into the box heaven knows when Steve Bruce would stop talking about it. Newsham simply had to score. But the header was tame and straight at the goalkeeper. Newsham may be our leading goalscorer, but his ratio of missed chances to goals is still rising and he doesn't often seem able to find the target from outside the six yard box. Maybe he needs glasses? Joking aside, I think there are other forward players in the squad who are a bit more clinical in front of goal (Clarke,Kennedy, etc) and are perhaps not getting enough of a look in at the moment.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: sparks on October 18, 2009, 11:05:29 AM

 Another very good observation and interpretation of yesterdays fixture from Leicester
 Pilgrim that will enivatably fall on "Deaf Ears" within certain areas of the Club.

 We would all hope to have a settled winning side but the bigger picture should not go
 unoticed and trust me there is complacency creeping into this squad within a circle
 of players that know who they are.This post simply highlights for me the negativity i
 think the Management bring to the Club in terms of realisation in man management
 skills and to some extent ignorance when it comes to dealing with issues they don't
 care to be bothered with. With reference to yesterdays fixture i go along with the
 majority of the people who i spoke with that we had quite a fortuetous afternoon.
 Chorley were an average Div 1 side who seemed to enjoy their day out at York St
 but made us look very ordinary at times throughout the 90mins. Our start was good
 with a 2 goal advantage, then we switched off and allowed them back into the game
 and our second half display was devoid of any real ideas and we just went through the
 motions allowing ourselves to be pegged back and our missed chances were yet again
 criminal.Talk of a new striker to be signed could be just propaganda ? but if not maybe
 we have seen the last of Clarky,Kennedy or even dare i say it "tapin Newsham" i don't
 think so do you !!! To conclude,if there ever was a time in football where a player was
 in need of a confidence battering...send them to York Street this season.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: father Ted on October 18, 2009, 11:35:36 AM
 Maybe we could look at the ratio of ' Proper '  goals  v  ' lucky '  goals .
  Now yesterday  I would say we had 2 luckys and 1 worked & proper .
   Chorley had at least one worked .. ( the player jinked thro our defence and meant to score.)
     Couldn't  see their 2nd  on the Video .
      I say we should n't let the ' lucky ' goals get ahead of the  ' proper  ' ones
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on October 18, 2009, 11:49:18 AM
Football has always been a game of arrogance. Generally if you stroll around like you own the place and couple that with hard work, then results follow.  If they have the winning, confident mentality then don't knock it, it gets you a good % of the way to results.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Lee Newell on October 18, 2009, 01:50:15 PM
Listening to Paul Hurst's interview it's good to hear the managers understand that the perfomance wasn't good enough.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: sparks on October 18, 2009, 03:51:14 PM
Football has always been a game of arrogance. Generally if you stroll around like you own the place and couple that with hard work, then results follow.  If they have the winning, confident mentality then don't knock it, it gets you a good % of the way to results.

 I am not in any sought of position to knock a winning,mentality confident Manager,what
 i am addressing is the bigger picture and a season that spans an eight month period of
 working with a squad and an understanding of those players .I question their ability in
 what appears to be their lack of honesty and integrity with certain squad members who
 would have appeared to be singled out as scapegoats for recent underpar games prior   
 to this run of form which have not been necessarily good performances.
 
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on October 18, 2009, 04:43:55 PM
Football has always been a game of arrogance. Generally if you stroll around like you own the place and couple that with hard work, then results follow.  If they have the winning, confident mentality then don't knock it, it gets you a good % of the way to results.

 I am not in any sought of position to knock a winning,mentality confident Manager,what
 i am addressing is the bigger picture and a season that spans an eight month period of
 working with a squad and an understanding of those players .I question their ability in
 what appears to be their lack of honesty and integrity with certain squad members who
 would have appeared to be singled out as scapegoats for recent underpar games prior   
 to this run of form which have not been necessarily good performances.
 
Sparks,what evidence do you have regarding the managers "lack of honesty and integrity"??.On your second point,a few weeks ago,we were not winning games.The managers have "shuffled the pack" and found a winning formula.Isn't that their job?For those squad players not getting a game,it's up to them to force their way back into contention.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on October 18, 2009, 06:43:33 PM
The problem often is that the fans can only here the voices of the players who are in the stands during the games.  The players who will inevitably have good things to say cos they are playing are doing just that, playing.

The whole Clarke thing seems to smack of Lee Thompson, lovely lad but it is a results business and some faces sometimes just don't fit no matter how nice the character is.  Those players have to make the choice of do they keep turning up waiting their chance and grab it or do they go elsewhere in the hope that someone else sees them differantly.

Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: green hats mate on October 18, 2009, 07:37:48 PM
The only regular in the team to be dropped as far as i can see in recent games is Cullingworth , he must be the scapegoat Sparks.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 18, 2009, 08:29:30 PM
Surely that's a case of him missing a game through suspension, and not being able to get back in?
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Seenbetter on October 18, 2009, 11:06:18 PM
Just to get back to the game. Was it Hurst or Scott on the radio afterwards said that after going 2.0 up our team didn't seem to know what to do, either go for more goals or sit back on the lead. We are in a very good position in that we have TWO managers who could have made that clear to the players if that was the case. Perhaps it was just a slip of the tongue but it does show that managers have to be very careful about what they say.
I do think that aproblem we have at our stadium is that teams want to come here and play well. They will up there game a bit, whereas it is very easy for the better home side to play down to the oppositions level and there's your banana skin.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: BU on the up on October 19, 2009, 02:47:18 PM
Who was the official man of the match on Saturday?
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: BUFC Loyal on October 19, 2009, 04:37:43 PM
Who was the official man of the match on Saturday?

Churchy
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ed Kandi on October 19, 2009, 08:10:48 PM
I enjoyed this game and will be back for the next home match.
They had some decent players for the level they play at, gave us a good game.
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: father Ted on October 19, 2009, 08:12:55 PM
 mm some funny new names on here .......
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ed Kandi on October 19, 2009, 08:16:36 PM
Thats good coming from you father ted!
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: father Ted on October 19, 2009, 08:26:57 PM
 hey Mr Music .. I ve  been  father Ted ( or fT ) for many a year ..
  And I 'm not a  footie player .!. ( far too old )
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: Ed Kandi on October 19, 2009, 08:40:37 PM
Edward Kandi
Not Daniel Kandi or Hed Kandi!

I'm too old to be a DJ too...although I love the music, Anjunabeats Vol 7 at the moment!
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: BostonGoals on October 19, 2009, 10:25:23 PM
Hands up whos coming to Nantwich then

My hand is in the air
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: thepilgrims on October 19, 2009, 10:31:03 PM
i am  ;D
Title: Re: Vs Chorley
Post by: father Ted on October 19, 2009, 10:31:48 PM
 hey .. start a new thread  then BG  ..