Pilgrims' Patter

The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Eddie Killick on February 15, 2015, 08:29:54 PM

Title: Fylde game
Post by: Eddie Killick on February 15, 2015, 08:29:54 PM
Just a warning to all Pilgrims hoping to travel there by car. Parking is very limited and unless you want a fifteen minute walk to the ground, get there early. I went to the Saturday match and arrived a full hour before the game and there were very few spaces left and only a handful in the adjoining pub car park.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Pilgrim86 on February 16, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
http://www.afcfylde.co.uk/parking-a-message-from-the-club-chairman/
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Ernie100 on February 17, 2015, 06:21:08 PM
Is there any commentary on the game tonight - on line or otherwise?
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: leicester pilgrim on February 17, 2015, 06:58:22 PM
I'm in the ground. Kick off delayed until 8.15,as our team bus has been delayed behind a road accident.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Pilgrim86 on February 17, 2015, 07:18:27 PM
BUSA have arrived, the team hasn't and is 'half an hour away'
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: leicester pilgrim on February 17, 2015, 07:20:46 PM
The team bus still hasn't arrived but the supporters coach is here . We can probably get eleven of us together but we might need to borrow a set of shirts
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Burgh Boy on February 17, 2015, 07:22:54 PM
Thanks for info Craig.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Ed Kandi on February 17, 2015, 08:33:04 PM
Its half time, have we started yet ?    :dan
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Tash on February 17, 2015, 08:46:16 PM
Two down :'(
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: kingofnaves on February 17, 2015, 09:12:44 PM
Oh dear!
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: kingofnaves on February 17, 2015, 09:14:43 PM
Need a keeper asap!
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Tash on February 17, 2015, 09:24:43 PM
Need a keeper asap!

First one through his fingers apparently, think Dennis will be shopping tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Burgh Boy on February 17, 2015, 10:14:06 PM
Time for an Appeal to the League about this game? Started 35 minutes late and BUFC did not have preparation time due to exceptional circumstances. Can we ask League for game to be replayed at a later date? Not ideal for fans or expenses but vital that we get some points from a replayed match. Craig, is there a precedent for this?
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: green hats mate on February 17, 2015, 10:16:49 PM
Time for an Appeal to the League about this game? Started 35 minutes late and BUFC did not have preparation time due to exceptional circumstances. Can we ask League for game to be replayed at a later date? Not ideal for fans or expenses but vital that we get some points from a replayed match. Craig, is there a precedent for this?

You must be  joking!!!!!
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on February 17, 2015, 10:19:03 PM
Regardless of circumstances, we rarely come away with anything from midweek matches up north. Season over now.  Need to learn how to grind results out when the going is tough.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Bostonshire on February 17, 2015, 10:23:09 PM
Regardless of circumstances, we rarely come away with anything from midweek matches up north. Season over now.  Need to learn how to grind results out when the going is tough.

Season over................. Rubish!!!!

Get a grip win at guiseley and its wide open again
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: oxo on February 17, 2015, 10:29:12 PM
Regardless of circumstances, we rarely come away with anything from midweek matches up north. Season over now.  Need to learn how to grind results out when the going is tough.


"Season over"  Don't talk like a prat, I will tell you what I will be going to Guiseley on Saturday and will have room in my car for you to come along and support the lads. There will be plenty of other fans there cheering the lads on and like me who do not think the season is over, The offer is there just reply on here and we will make arrangements and I will buy you a pint on the day.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Bostonshire on February 17, 2015, 10:38:50 PM
Or do what i am. Book a hotel and make a weekend of it
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: oxo on February 17, 2015, 10:44:25 PM
Makes sense in Gods own county Bostonshire.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Bostonshire on February 17, 2015, 10:55:46 PM
wife wants a trip to esholt (where they filmed emmerdale many moons ago) so thought i book weekend up there, keeps the wife happy and gets me to a game
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Burgh Boy on February 17, 2015, 10:55:59 PM
Time for an Appeal to the League about this game? Started 35 minutes late and BUFC did not have preparation time due to exceptional circumstances. Can we ask League for game to be replayed at a later date? Not ideal for fans or expenses but vital that we get some points from a replayed match. Craig, is there a precedent for this?

You must be  joking!!!!!

Worth a try though, don't you think? What have we to lose?
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Odin on February 17, 2015, 11:40:04 PM
Heard some of the Fylde supporters comment that Boston were one of the best teams they have seen this season.
I think Boston were slightly the better side but the main difference between the teams was that Fylde took shots at our goal but we actually had very few attempts on their goal. We need shooting practice. Perhaps playing on grass didn't help us
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: miele on February 18, 2015, 09:08:11 AM
Heard some of the Fylde supporters comment that Boston were one of the best teams they have seen this season.

Fans always say that with a grin on there faces,  Boston just need to be able to play in front of a man and his dog.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Odin on February 18, 2015, 09:22:15 AM
There were actually two Fylde followers who had their dogs with them. There was also an odd looking bird walking around.
Not enough attempts on goal was our downfall. Played some great passing football and that was a real treat but an empty onion bag.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Carl Newell on February 18, 2015, 09:26:49 AM
Season isn't over but probably will be of we lose to guiesely Saturday. As for replaying the game what a ridiculous statement there are no grounds for this what so ever!!! Yes the bus was late which isn't ideal but we lost fair and square.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on February 18, 2015, 12:47:40 PM
Oxo - thanks for the offer. Away games have been few and far between for me this season as I'm renovating my house and time has been at a premium. It's a six hour round trip from my Norfolk abode to Guiseley but if I do decide to come then I'll take you up on the offer of a pint  :)

So, 'season over'. Maybe a bit of a knee jerk reaction to last night's result but how many more games can we afford to lose ? We have already lost nine. If you look back over the last six years in the Conference North then you will see that teams losing any more than ten games do not make the play offs. In fact, in the 2011/12 season, Nuneaton only just scraped into the play-offs and they only lost eight games all season.

You could argue that we could get away with losing another but with so many teams around us on similar points it is unlikely. Couple this with the fact that we still have to travel to Guiseley, Hednesford, Solihull and Oxford City - and face Tamworth at home then I don't see us realistically being able to do it - hence 'season over'.

TEP
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: leicester pilgrim on February 18, 2015, 01:15:13 PM

Having taken time off work and got all the way to Fylde I would have been extremely annoyed if the game had been called off. I would have approached Fylde from a different direction to our team bus, didn't have any travel issues getting there (except for finding the ground which wasn't signposted - good job the floodlights were on) and was in the ground about an hour before the scheduled kick-off time. Overhearing a conversation between the Fylde manager and one of their club officials before our team bus had arrived, the Fylde manager actually wanted the game called off! He was saying if Boston were more than half an hour late then he wanted the game postponed because it wasn't fair on the home side and their preparation, blah blah blah. On reflection I think it affected the away side's preparation more!

Let's be honest, the Conference fixture computer / administrators must take some responsibility for what happened yesterday. At the start of the season they know which Saturdays are FA Cup and FA Trophy round dates, and yet they still produce league fixtures pairing sides from opposite sides of the country on those dates. It only needs one of the teams to progress therefore and suddenly you've got a logistical nightmare of an away team and its supporters having to travel the full width of the country on a Tuesday night. I know a lot of the regular Boston away support, and there were a lot of people not at AFC Fylde last night who I would normally expect to see; therefore Fylde also take lower gate receipts as a result. (Similarly didn't Boston lose out last season through the visit of Stockport being rescheduled for midweek)? The answer is surely to try and schedule the more local league fixtures on the FA Round Dates. If we had to travel to a Gainsborough, Ferriby, Leamington, Tamworth, Harrogate, etc., for a 7:45 on a Tuesday night then it'd be so much simpler than trying to get to AFC Fylde?
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Bostonshire on February 18, 2015, 01:45:16 PM
Us been late played into there hands so cant see why the flyde manager was moaning.
Been late did not give us time to work with the likes of southwell and felix so this must have benefited them more than us.

Anyway we are Boston. we stand up in the face of adverse and get on with it, We dont lay down and cry and moan about it we just get on with it. Onwards to Guiseley
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Pilgrim86 on February 18, 2015, 04:03:20 PM
Season over? No. Season very difficult? Yes!

3 points at Guiseley required - and out of the 2 games, if I had to choose only one to win, it would be Saturday.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Burgh Boy on February 18, 2015, 05:22:06 PM
Season isn't over but probably will be of we lose to guiesely Saturday. As for replaying the game what a ridiculous statement there are no grounds for this what so ever!!! Yes the bus was late which isn't ideal but we lost fair and square.
"Fair and square". A terminology which may well be ok in the amateur Corinthian football of 50 years ago - but this is 21st Century semi-pro football with money involved and promotion to a pro league at stake. If AFCF wanted game off too, there may be mitigating circumstances in which the League Committee may agree to replay. League Committee sometimes make extraordinary decisions (Lincs League for example!) so why not have a go? Sitting back and accepting the result is, well, unacceptable! If the Committee rejects the Appeal, then so be it - but let's try at least! To not try - now THAT would be ridiculous, Carl!
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Odin on February 18, 2015, 05:58:15 PM
On Fyldes forum the summary says that Boston ONLY had ONE attempt of note and that was a Pidge 35 yarder. Wouldn't argue with that.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Carl Newell on February 18, 2015, 06:39:32 PM
They gave their MOM to their keeper so he must have had to make a few saves! Also a pic of a cracking close range save from Mills on Twitter.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Bostonshire on February 18, 2015, 07:44:33 PM
They gave their MOM to their keeper so he must have had to make a few saves! Also a pic of a cracking close range save from Mills on Twitter.

I thought that as soon as i see the post
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Eddie Killick on February 18, 2015, 08:10:50 PM
Seemed to me that we played far too cautiously in the first half. What was the point of playing Newsham up front on his own against their two larger centre backs. We played much better with 4 4 2 in the second half when we began to play them at their own game but Fylde's goalie kept them in the game. Thought Garms and Pidge played their socks off last night but Vince was slow to react, probably due to lack of match awareness at this level.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Ferret on February 19, 2015, 07:48:19 AM
"Fair and square". A terminology which may well be ok in the amateur Corinthian football of 50 years ago - but this is 21st Century semi-pro football with money involved and promotion to a pro league at stake. If AFCF wanted game off too, there may be mitigating circumstances in which the League Committee may agree to replay. League Committee sometimes make extraordinary decisions (Lincs League for example!) so why not have a go? Sitting back and accepting the result is, well, unacceptable! If the Committee rejects the Appeal, then so be it - but let's try at least! To not try - now THAT would be ridiculous, Carl!

Just wondering........do you need a visa to enter your world?
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Burgh Boy on February 19, 2015, 08:26:29 AM
"Fair and square". A terminology which may well be ok in the amateur Corinthian football of 50 years ago - but this is 21st Century semi-pro football with money involved and promotion to a pro league at stake. If AFCF wanted game off too, there may be mitigating circumstances in which the League Committee may agree to replay. League Committee sometimes make extraordinary decisions (Lincs League for example!) so why not have a go? Sitting back and accepting the result is, well, unacceptable! If the Committee rejects the Appeal, then so be it - but let's try at least! To not try - now THAT would be ridiculous, Carl!
Just wondering........do you need a visa to enter your world?
OK Ferret - if you are happy to accept the result and also accept that we may miss out on the play offs by 3 points then that is your prerogative. But I ask, where would BUFC be if it had taken the attitude that Appeals weren't worth it? Probably at York Street for the next 50 years? Don't forget it was only determination over the years by DN and others that we finally got The Quadrant and new ground. I would like the club to pull out ALL the stops, whether on or off the pitch, to get out of this deadbeat League which we have suffered playing in for way too long. To answer your question, you don't need a visa to be in my world - just the ability to think outside the box and give things a go.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Pilgrim86 on February 19, 2015, 08:42:28 AM
Will you be funding this appeal for the club?
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: miele on February 19, 2015, 08:50:37 AM
You tell em Burgh Boy,  there's to many  bully boy's who have no vision on here.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Burgh Boy on February 19, 2015, 09:00:28 AM
Will you be funding this appeal for the club?
No, you patronising so and so. Will you? Pilgrim86 - THE club man speaketh - and bang on cue! If you or the club doesn't want to gamble and go for it, then I can live with and, regrettably, have to acknowledge that. But can you, P86, really stand another season in this division without at trying EVERYTHING to get out of it - even at the cost of an Appeal?
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on February 19, 2015, 09:47:44 AM
Just on the point of whether we can stand another season in this division, my answer is yes. Of course I would love promotion to a higher league but we are where we are on merit and we don't currently deserve to be playing at a higher level. I justify my acceptance of the league we currently play in based on our performances over the season (some really good, some awful - pretty inconsistent at times).

I think the Conference Premier is a much tougher place than when we were last there and at the moment we have sort of found our level. This isn't to say that I'm not ambitious - just realistic to our current position / situation.

As mentioned elsewhere on here, maybe we would be better lobbying the fixture secretary to try and ensure these type of midweek fixtures aren't such common practice - or try to leave even earlier in the day if this is at all possible when faced with one of those North West fixtures.

TEP
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on February 19, 2015, 11:09:05 AM
I think the Conference Premier is a much tougher place than when we were last there and at the moment we have sort of found our level. This isn't to say that I'm not ambitious - just realistic to our current position / situation.

Perfectly sums up my view of things. 
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Carl Newell on February 19, 2015, 12:22:58 PM
Will you be funding this appeal for the club?
No, you patronising so and so. Will you? Pilgrim86 - THE club man speaketh - and bang on cue! If you or the club doesn't want to gamble and go for it, then I can live with and, regrettably, have to acknowledge that. But can you, P86, really stand another season in this division without at trying EVERYTHING to get out of it - even at the cost of an Appeal?

The problem is Burgh Boy is there isn't any grounds for an appeal. Boston we late these things happen). Flyde delayed kick off. Boston lost. End of.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: oxo on February 19, 2015, 12:23:25 PM
You tell em Burgh Boy,  there's to many  bully boy's who have no vision on here.


Oh my goodness the very thought of these two joining forces will send shock waves through Conference North and beyond.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Bostonshire on February 19, 2015, 12:45:45 PM
Wouldn't happen if we had a propos reserves :P
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Pilgrim86 on February 19, 2015, 01:21:23 PM
Will you be funding this appeal for the club?
No.
Therefore it's not your decision. We have no grounds for appeal, so it's the end of the matter. The Conference would probably deduct us points for a frivolous appeal, wasting their time...

But can you, P86, really stand another season in this division without at trying EVERYTHING to get out of it
Like cheating, for example?
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: B Grimes on February 20, 2015, 07:33:35 AM
According to FA rules its up to the travelling club to ensure they arrive on time and face fines for not doing so. Extenuating circumstances there may be but apart from negating fines, we wouldn't have any ground's for any appeal.
If we miss the play off's by three points then we will just have to take it on the chin. Last year we had two really long journeys where we travelled up in the day even though for one I am sure I remember there was an offer to foot the hotel bill which for reasons I never worked out we didn't take advantage off. We lost both those games and arguably in doing so did cost us a play off spot. Not this time though.

We are where we deserve and though our mojo has well and truly returned at home if we do miss out, look again and.no further, like last year to our performances on our travels.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Bostonshire on February 20, 2015, 08:02:12 AM
According to FA rules its up to the travelling club to ensure they arrive on time and face fines for not doing so. Extenuating circumstances there may be but apart from negating fines, we wouldn't have any ground's for any appeal.
If we miss the play off's by three points then we will just have to take it on the chin. Last year we had two really long journeys where we travelled up in the day even though for one I am sure I remember there was an offer to foot the hotel bill which for reasons I never worked out we didn't take advantage off. We lost both those games and arguably in doing so did cost us a play off spot. Not this time though.

We are where we deserve and though our mojo has well and truly returned at home if we do miss out, look again and.no further, like last year to our performances on our travels.

You are correct about not taking the hotel offer. My understanding was down to over half the team had got work commitments so couldn't travel early to the hotel
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: howmanynames2pick on February 20, 2015, 08:50:14 AM
It's really difficult for semi pro players to trek miles mid week.
Some clubs can be lucky with fixtures and some are not.
(Anyone in the same league as Workington are unlucky whatever the day )

We really do need to go full time :)
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: cookie on February 20, 2015, 09:30:55 AM
We dropped Rene off at Newark at 2am and he said he had another 2 1/2 hours drive to get home! Now that is what you call commitment.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: Ernie100 on February 20, 2015, 09:51:13 AM
We dropped Rene off at Newark at 2am and he said he had another 2 1/2 hours drive to get home! Now that is what you call commitment.

Certainly puts the premier league pansies to shame.
Title: Re: Fylde game
Post by: howmanynames2pick on February 20, 2015, 10:33:27 PM
We dropped Rene off at Newark at 2am and he said he had another 2 1/2 hours drive to get home! Now that is what you call commitment.

Certainly puts the premier league pansies to shame.
remember Fulham coming?
didn't they fly to Coningsby and stay at the petwood whilst their coach drove up empty to bring them from Woodhall to ground???
wonder if they would still do that?