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Title: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 17, 2009, 11:26:37 AM
BOSTON UNITED are set to vacate the Jakemans Stadium, their home for over a century.

The UniBond Premier outfit admit the stadium does not meet the standards demanded by modern day supporters and are in discussions with the present ground owners, Burghley House Preservation Trust, over development proposals and relocation to a site off the Ryall Road area of town.

It is envisaged that redevelopment of the present ground on York Street for housing would generate funding for the club’s planned move.

A public meeting to discuss the project is set to be held at Trinity Methodist Church, Stamford, on Friday

Mark Flood, the planning consultant for both Boston United and the trust, said: “The Club and the Trust have been working closely for some time to put together this relocation package, but there is only so far we wish to go before consulting with the local community.

“We hope that as many people as possible will call in to learn more about the work we have done so far, and to discuss the proposals. We want this feedback before considering the proposals further and then ultimately submitting planning applications.”

Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Pride of Bostonshire on August 17, 2009, 11:33:15 AM
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The UniBond Premier outfit admit the stadium does not meet the standards demanded by modern day supporters and are in discussions with the present ground owners, Burghley House Preservation Trust, over development proposals and relocation to a site off the Ryall Road area of town.

First, surely York St is one of the best grounds in non-league let alone the Unidump?!
Second, where the hell is Ryall Road?

EDIT: Just found this link on the Unidump site about Stamford relocating: http://www.unibondleague.com/news/details.php?news_id=150 (http://www.unibondleague.com/news/details.php?news_id=150)
So we aren't going anywhere then.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on August 17, 2009, 11:36:31 AM
Ryhall Road is in Stamford.The quotes from DL come from the Stamford forum,are about Stamford,and have NOTHING to do with Boston United.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: cambocakes on August 17, 2009, 11:40:19 AM
...GOOD
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Keynsham Pilgrim on August 17, 2009, 12:02:55 PM
It's also on the Unibond site news stories as well.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: LeeChase on August 17, 2009, 01:36:44 PM
It is just a matter of time.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Seenbetter on August 17, 2009, 04:04:45 PM
Only a matter of time is right. The owners of the ground want United away so they can sell it for development. The lease expires in about 9yrs so a new ground will have to be built unless some rich bugger turns up to buy the land and keep it for football. If there are any diehard sentimentallists out there who don't want to see football played anywhere other than York St. then you have three options. Win the lottery and buy the ground, buy one of the houses that may be built there and watch it in the comfort of your own home on match of the day or get a job in the tv department of the superstore that may be built there. Sad I know but true I think.
Anyway, let Stamford do it first so that we can then outdo them with grandeur.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: father Ted on August 17, 2009, 04:43:39 PM
 mm Always worth thinking what proportion of weekly  ' take '  is going on ground rent and costs...
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: howmanynames2pick on August 17, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
Dis-proportionly high against income. Allegedly
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on August 17, 2009, 05:19:19 PM
Did someone wake the chicken?

I'm confused, is this news, we knew it only had 9 years left in it, has something changed?
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: howmanynames2pick on August 17, 2009, 05:33:15 PM
No but i guess with no off field worries, a cracking squad, two ambitious and talented managers, new kit, great Community scheme, an impressive away win its just a bit worrying that we've nothing to worry about (i hope)
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: father Ted on August 17, 2009, 05:36:20 PM
well   the O /S  has gone down again..!
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: green hats mate on August 17, 2009, 07:52:26 PM
Endorse all that Seenbetter says apart from the "sad" comment. Having following BUFC for 60 years it will be wonderful to have at last a brand new stadium free of high cost maintainace and free from the shackles of a landlord. With time running out on the lease a move is getting evermore urgent.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: father Ted on August 17, 2009, 08:21:41 PM
 WELL ..lets make up a ' new '  ground
    I ll start by taking 3 sides of York st as they are ..but instead of the Stantons stand or whatever its called now substitute the old Gigg Lane stand we were in on Sat ..
       It gives a cracking noise and there's plenty or room for pies and chips at the back ..!
   
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Johnny Pilgrim on August 17, 2009, 09:17:46 PM
..W.A.L.O.Bs
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Bostonshire on August 17, 2009, 09:24:46 PM
Tell you summit i do know were some prime land as come up for sale right on the ege of town, bout 10 to 15 min walk and 5 min by car,All the land infront of the bowling alley all 200 acres of it, currently owned by richard hardy
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Fairfax on August 17, 2009, 11:04:02 PM
No matter what prime land you find, the council will find an excuse to refuse planning permission.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Pilgrim21 on August 17, 2009, 11:34:26 PM
..W.A.L.O.Bs

What ? like little Kangaroos? Where?
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Bostonshire on August 18, 2009, 10:12:34 AM
Tell you summit i do know were some prime land as come up for sale right on the ege of town, bout 10 to 15 min walk and 5 min by car,All the land infront of the bowling alley all 200 acres of it, currently owned by richard hardy
No matter what prime land you find, the council will find an excuse to refuse planning permission.

This you are correct
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Bartmac on August 18, 2009, 12:39:12 PM
WELL ..lets make up a ' new '  ground
    I ll start by taking 3 sides of York st as they are ..but instead of the Stantons stand or whatever its called now substitute the old Gigg Lane stand we were in on Sat ..
       It gives a cracking noise and there's plenty or room for pies and chips at the back ..!
   

The "cracking noise" was from the strain on the seats after eating all the pies and chips! ;D
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: father Ted on August 18, 2009, 02:21:04 PM
They Did n't do chips ..not where I was anyway .. there  were good chips at Prescott Cables..
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: green hats mate on August 18, 2009, 02:35:00 PM
To be honest Fairfax the planners had no alterative but to turn Lavaflow down. It was apparent to non plannig experts that J R AND JS had not got a clue , nor a business plan (i.e. no idea how to finance the project). I am certain when Chestnuts present ideas for a new stadium they will get the full council backing.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: BUFC Loyal on August 18, 2009, 03:46:27 PM
They Did n't do chips ..not where I was anyway .. there  were good chips at Prescott Cables..

the chips my mate got from their were horriable looked like they had been the oven around 2 mins they were rock hard  :D

Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: cappo on August 18, 2009, 04:48:56 PM
To be honest Fairfax the planners had no alterative but to turn Lavaflow down. It was apparent to non plannig experts that J R AND JS had not got a clue , nor a business plan (i.e. no idea how to finance the project). I am certain when Chestnuts present ideas for a new stadium they will get the full council backing.
i tell ya what green hat you couldnt have put that any better,and i agree that when the time comes,which it surely will, the chestnuts will be operating totally in there field of expertise and it will be done right
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Fairfax on August 18, 2009, 05:39:23 PM
I was not just thinking about Larvaflow or even football. Boston Borough Council have a long history of turning away anything that might affect the labour force on the land. Just check with Boston Deep Sea Fisheries of Fleetwood or May and Baker (later Roche) Pharmeceuticals.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Seenbetter on August 18, 2009, 10:48:20 PM
Don't forget belly dancers, pole dancers and lap dancers. While there at it, the planners not the dancers, they could leave one side of the ground completely open and grassed so that families could bring their picnic table, chairs, butties and make a proper family outing of it like they do at open air concerts.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Old Pilgrim on August 19, 2009, 09:56:16 AM
I was not just thinking about Larvaflow or even football. Boston Borough Council have a long history of turning away anything that might affect the labour force on the land. Just check with Boston Deep Sea Fisheries of Fleetwood or May and Baker (later Roche) Pharmeceuticals.
So long as the present lot aren't in power when (if) new plans are presented! The rate they're going there won't be anything left in Boston
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Poros on August 19, 2009, 03:10:04 PM
Fairfax. You are going back a bit. My Great Grand Pops was Captain of the Boston Deep Sea Fishing Co. in 1905.I remember it well.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: dubai camel on August 21, 2009, 10:34:09 AM
Boston Borough in conjunction with the County Council have limited the development of new industry in the area very well - its called the A16, A52 and A17.  >:(
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 21, 2009, 11:44:55 AM
I was not just thinking about Larvaflow or even football. Boston Borough Council have a long history of turning away anything that might affect the labour force on the land. Just check with Boston Deep Sea Fisheries of Fleetwood or May and Baker (later Roche) Pharmeceuticals.

Hey Fairfax,

What's the story behind the Roche thing?
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Fairfax on August 21, 2009, 01:15:12 PM
May & Baker were producers of a cure for bacterial pneumonia, known as Sulphonamide M & B 693. It was used on Winston Churchill when he contracted heart and lung problems towards the end of the war, and less famously on me too when I was two years old. Some time after the war, though I cannot remember the date (? fifties), they were looking to build a new factory in eastern England and chose, as their prime site, and area of reclaimed land at Frampton Marsh. The upshot was that they obtained planning permission in principle, but were refused permission to carry out ground works to link the factory to an enlarged water main. Of course, this killed the project as you cannot run a chemical works without water. Instead, they built on Sweet Briar Road in Norwich, and are still there under the name of Roche, unless that has changed in the last few years.

Nothing can be proven, but a predominance of farming interests on the council at the time is worthy of note.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Maxross on August 21, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
Wasn't there also an Italian steel producer that was treated in a similar fashion?  You only have to read the comments of some of our elected  "representitives" in the local press to see that their lack of vision has, for many years held Boston back and continues to do so.  I live away from Boston now but I still get the Standard but every time I read it I get depressed.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Pilgrims67 on August 21, 2009, 10:34:02 PM
When I was doing my A levels my old geography teacher told me a couple of stories from the past.
1, That there where plans to develop a deep sea port near Frieston, rather than develop Boston Docks, this way they could take much larger boats, this was rejected, and now look at the state of our port
2. The Railways wanted to use Boston as its main hub to the north, with the mainline coming through Boston, which makes sense as we are a straight line from London, this was rejected, and the Railways picked on a small town called Doncaster, which saw its development explode, obvious I am happy that we dont resemble Donny its a dump, but its the principle.

I dont know how true any of this is, but its what I heard, and no reason to disbelieve
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: dubai camel on August 21, 2009, 10:47:05 PM
..... or try this.....

object to anything that may compete for the cheap labour pool, thus effecting the farmers in the Con Club!
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Fairfax on August 21, 2009, 11:38:46 PM
The original Great Northern Railway main line did come throught Boston and the locomotive works was at Hall Hills, which I believe was close to the river bank near Anton's Gowt. As I don't live in the town, I have not been there for many years. I do remember that it had a tall chimney well into the sixties at least. A later decision by the GNR was taken to move the works to Doncaster, but I am not aware of the reason for the move. I think that it was on a more direct route avoiding the Humber estuary. Hall Hills became the main sleeper depot for the GNR then LNER and eventually British Railways. It was convenient as sleepers were made of Scandinavian timber imported into Boston Dock. The change to concrete sleepers saw the end of railway development in Boston. Otherwise we could have been one of the railway town football teams with Doncaster, Darlington, Crewe, Brighton, Swindon & Derby.

Incidentally, Peterborough was a small town, rather like Ely, but The Marquess of Exeter wouldn't let Stamford (a major Royal Mail Post Town) be developed as the junction with the main line and the cross country (Norfolk to the Midlands) route. That's why Stamford is still a small backwater town and Peterborough is a large city.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: green hats mate on August 22, 2009, 09:57:16 AM
No need for the council to protect low wages , the goverments immigration policy (or lack of it! ) does a far better job of keeping wages down. dc.
Title: Re: Bye Bye York Street
Post by: Old Pilgrim on August 22, 2009, 10:34:48 AM
..... or try this.....

object to anything that may compete for the cheap labour pool, thus effecting the farmers in the Con Club!

But the Conservatives are Independent councillors aren't they?