Ok, Let's address one point at a time.
There is now very little doubt that if we remain in the EU then the NHS as we know it will eventually cease to exist.
Also, if we remain in the EU, with no control over who enters our country, before it ceases to exist in it's present form it will become increasingly under pressure and unable to cope with demand.
As LadyGaGa pointed out, the NHS will never be safe under a conservative government. They ran it down in the 80’s under Thatcher and throughout the last 6 years they have run it down again.
"That’s the standard technique of privatization: defund, make sure things don’t work, people get angry, then you hand it over to private capital."
Noam Chomsky
Sound familiar?
In or out, the NHS is screwed so long as we have a Tory government. If you have any evidence to dispute that, go ahead and post it otherwise I will assume we all agree on that point.
The timescale for these two eventualities is impossible to ascertain, but we know that in Germany for example, the millions of migrants that Merkel is intent on letting in will be given EU passports if they stay, and will therefore be able to move to any part of the EU that they choose.
The same will apply to the millions of Turkish citizens who Cameron is so keen to let in to the EU despite what he is now saying.
The first thing I simply have to do is take issue with your use of the term “migrant” with regard the people whom Germany has taken in. I assume you are talking about the 800,000 Syrians that ended up in Germany? They are Refugees. What we are seeing here is a massive fallout from the wars that have been raging in Syria and Iraq. If you wish to get into the why’s what’s and whatever’s that another discussion but in a nutshell, that entire region was completely destabilized by the U.S.’s (backed by Europe and particularly the UK) desire for regime change in several countries. You don’t have to look too far using Google to see the kind of devastation that they are fleeing and I think a bit of humanity wouldn’t go amiss.
So I think that’s the first issue we need to address which is to distinguish between economic migrant and refugees. We have economic migrants which are those coming from the likes of Eastern Europe to create a better life for themselves and refugees who are entering bordering nations on an unprecedented scale to escape the devastation in their own nations. I think Turkey as a nation is taking a heavy brunt from the latter and is looking to the west to help take some of the burden.
We can debate the rights and wrongs of all that, but again, that’s another more dedicated discussion.
Nobody knows the exact figures, but we do know that millions of pounds are transferred to the EU every week - this fact has never been disputed, the debates always end up in petty squabbles over the exact amount, how much we get back as a rebate etc, but these things don't make much difference, the fact is that millions of pounds that now leave our country every week will stay in this country if we vote to leave.
The petty squabbles over exactly how much are of the order of about £200m a week, so not exactly insignificant. The main problem is though, that you have simplified the fee we are paying into a simple cash equation, i.e. we pay £xm per week for membership… and that it. It’s a bit more complicated than that. As I mentioned on a previous post, there are many unquantifiable benefits of being in the EU, the most obvious being access to the free market. That means anything any company in this country makes can be sold anywhere in the EU without paying any kind of tariffs or duties. Companies such as the Japanese car makers Nissan and Toyota build their cars in the UK, employing thousands, so that they can sell them throughout the EU without paying import tariffs. The UK is attractive to them because we are members of the EU and common market.
I could go on, but I think you will find that the common market gives our economy a large boost in terms of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) and also in terms of employment, tax receipts, etc. It has been pointed out by several economist that as little as a 0.7% drop in our GDP would result in us losing more than the cost of EU membership. We may go it alone and be successful, but it is a jump into the unknown. Therefore, it is s a risk economically and as yet, the Out campaign have failed to produce any kind of credible economic plan. It's all very well saying we'll negotiate, but for me, its too big a decision to be left down to these kind of back of a fag packet plans.
The other thing that we know for sure if we do leave the EU is that we will not have an unelected committee of faceless American and European corporate fat cats selling off our NHS.
How naïve, if we vote out that is precisely what we will end up with. Just look at the credentials of all of those involved in the Out campaign, even "man of the people" Nigel Farage is an ex banker. If we isolate ourselves from Europe, we will be forced into an even cosier alliance with the Americans. Check out the trade agreements they have already signed with Canada and Mexico and decide for yourself what kind of deal we will get on our own with BoJo at the helm.
I totally agree with Dipdodah though, whatever your opinion, make sure you do actually get out and vote!